I just don’t use any trait points so they don’t know my build. You just have to think about what traits would be activating if you did actually use your real build so that your practices are fulfilling.
It’s been done before several times =\
Is it just me or does this bug only affect thieves? I see warriros quick-stomp constantly and have NEVER seen a warrior or ranger not be able to quick-stomp.
euro or NA?
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Guys is there a block function on these forums?
Could reaaaaaaally use it.
it says who makes the forum post. so a block function would be read who makes the post and dont enter it if you have a problem. lol
Oh so you don’t remember me killing your treb with stealth and you talked about how I was a kittenty thief when I didn’t say anything to you? Or when you tried to 1v1 me for my homepoint when I was guard and said I was a crap player who needed to go back to pvp even though you didn’t take the point? I never said anything to you before that.
first off that doesnt even sound like me. everyone who knows me knows if i get kitten on i dont say anything. but nice try troll.
anywayz im number one.
Yes I would randomly make this up. Ostrich eggs was there when you were relentlessly bashing me and I literally said nothing the entire match. I killed your treb and all you did was talk kitten. I lost respect for Ostrich that day since he plays with disgusting players who talk kitten to players who are honestly trying to enjoy tpvp.
I can’t believe anyone would play with someone so disgusting. Class up and at least own up to the kitten you say in-game.
Guys is there a block function on these forums?
Could reaaaaaaally use it.
it says who makes the forum post. so a block function would be read who makes the post and dont enter it if you have a problem. lol
Oh so you don’t remember me killing your treb with stealth and you talked about how I was a kittenty thief when I didn’t say anything to you? Or when you tried to 1v1 me for my homepoint when I was guard and said I was a crap player who needed to go back to pvp even though you didn’t take the point? I never said anything to you before that.
Winning without class? No respect. I’ve seen you trash talk so many players who were genuinely doing their best in matches. At least gasmask had grace when he was rank 1.
With the advent of Customs most of them are shameless self-advertising dueling or private servers. While granted there are not that many options to customize it outside of its niche conquest format or a typical death-match duel I want to know what you guys think would be a cool CA that is not yet available.
yeah I think we’re going to try it in a 5v5 setting when it’s active today Thanks for the tips guys. Wish we could further customize it to be more like the hunger games hahaha
In an effort to try something new besides the standard dueling servers my friend and I have been working on making a bit more intricate battleground.
The idea is that if you die you severely put your team at a disadvantage. Thus we made the respawn timer the max length (if you die then it takes 2 mins to respawn).
It’s currently set to a 3v3 match with spectators allowed (so 14 spectator max). We’ve been wanting to make it 5v5 but at this dead hour no one is joining so no matches will start.
We set the score limit to 100 so the matches don’t take long and the idea is that you can cap points, kill bosses or do whatever you want, but if you die your’e going to really put your team in a bad position. It’s a conquest blitz match where every death is extraordinarily important—hence the Hunger Games theme.
My question is how could this be improved to be:
1) more enjoyable
2) more competitive
The stats of the room are as follows:
3v3
first to 100 wins
10min max time limit
Spectators allowed
No password
Don’t forget:
-no use of elites
-only 1 heal use per game
-only 1 weapon per character (doesn’t matter if it’s 2-handed or 1-handed you can only bring 1)
-everyone must play thief to be fair. No dodge-rolling you must stand-still, facing each other and attacking.
not really, you could say this about many profs… 2 DD eles using port+stun and then nuke… 2 thiefs with steal+backstab combo… 2 warriors with frenzy+bulls charge+100b (yes with 2 stuns you could maintain at least 1 full 100b and a part of second)… etc
but why not all 2v2 teams wouldnt be full glass nukers? they would be dead if someone survive their burst (e.g. in guardians shield, AOE knockback from second player, etc)
Wow that’s genius. I wonder why no one ever thought of trying this against a 2 mesmer team. I’m thinking even 2 spirit rangers might be good. Or maybe 2 longbow rangers staying far away all the time hitting them with arrows it could be good because that would mean 2 pets for twice the power!!!
You must not have been in the same 2v2 room I was in the past 10 hours
The 2v2 rooms are fun but eventually they have turned into everyone running the same mesmer build, or getting stomped by 2 mesmers running the same build.
On the topic of traits how DO you see their traits? I’ve only dabbled a little in spectator mode but couldn’t figure it out.
The problem with that is that if their custom arena is full (meaning they didn’t even reserve a spot for themself) the owner can’t even play in the arena he is paying for until someone leaves.
With the advent of 20-man rooms regardless of custom arenas I don’t see a problem with the people who own their personal ones reserving themselves and a friend a spot.
90% sure it means those spots can’t be taken because it never let’s me in rooms with 18/20 when they have 2 reserved spots.
My fiance does. She’s even on the leaderboard ladder.
Keyword: Fiance.
One thing has really bothered me throughout this conversation: Distortion won’t lose you the point if you use it once for 3 seconds. Renewed focus won’t decap completely, neither will Elixir S nor will Mist Form.
Other than that I just hear a mesmer complaining about losing a 2v1 when the rest of the team will have numbers up. Also if you’re going to port back into a 1v1 then a mes can handle it. If it’s 2v1 then tell your team-mate to take the portal and assist or play with numbers up elsewhere.
I can’t make Gold effectively in PvP. No one can.
So in order for me to buy extra toon slots, or new Arena tokens, I would have to level a toon to 80 in PvE and grind for hours on a single dungeon (CoF). Why? I don’t know.
I have tried another option, using my experience and skill in PvP to get gold. I know that Laurels are precious to simple PvE players, so I offer to teach them PvP in exchange for small bits of pocket change (50 silver to 1.5 gold depending on the class). That goes over really well, I love being laughed at and ridiculed by players 1/15th of my skill.
I have also tried selling Dyes. Which doesn’t form a solid source of income.
So, that aside, does anyone have any bright ideas how to effectively acquire shinies?
I farm svanir and chieftain all day, they actually drop 5g once in awhile.
I can confirm this.
As someone who plays lots of pve and pvp (4k matches in pvp and 5.2k achievement points pve) I think it’s ridiculous to blatantly limit the cool weapons to pve-only (see: legendaries and other ones like volcanus, vision of the mists etc).
I have Volcanus in PvE and 200k glory seems appropriate for the amount of grind it took to get it in pve.
I just don’t see the point in the disproportionate favoritism to pve, even when it comes to weapon -skins-
Currently no recipe. You just randomly get it from the match-win reward chest.
Ingame name: Lux Fortuna
Main Class / Potential Classes (Incase team requires): over 2,000 matches on thief—over 1,000 on bunker guard. Champ Paragon and Shadow. I can play both exceptionally well and am willing to prove it via practice.
Region: North America
Practice Times: Anytime all the time
Experience: I solo queue and play with teams whenever I’m randomly invited—I’ve ranged from rank 150 (have screenshot for proof) and 90th percentile. Hard to stay on leaderboards when solo queueing constantly. Currently rank 44.
Other (Anything else that you would like to add): Preferably a team with experience and Voice capabilities. I can vent or Skype but will download TS if I have to (team must look promising for me to download TS because I hate TS). I have a Ventrilo server that I pay for if the team wants to use it.
Are we talking about clicking exit to desktop or alt f4? or does it not make a difference?
It makes no difference. Currently both are a loss to rating.
Evan Lesh’s House of Nerf
My issue is that many of the top QP players aren’t even active in the game anymore. Hopefully this will be mitigated by the fact that certain media vessels will have access to CA’s as well. I also heard that players who purchased the CA starter kits will be able to use them at beta release as well.
“you aren’t even on the ladder”
You went afk and died? I don’t see the problem.
if you weren’t afk you need to uninstall. He hit you with opening burst..followed by auto attacks..followed by 3 heartseekers…ran out of initiative and proceeded to do more auto attacks. this only happens if you are literally standing still afk. or … if you have absolutely no clue how to even move your character.
I don’t think you read that right… the person did 30k dmg in roughly 3 seconds.
Whether or not its balanced in competitive play, odds say its not OP there.
The person is talking about casual play though, an instant stunned out death spike, that if avoided because the thief is bad, the thief can just waltz away from with stealth… doesn’t tend to be all that enjoyable.
instant-stunned out death spike?
Even if the thief was using basilisk venom for the 1.5second stone-stun (lol@wasting elite on a skirmish off-node), then he still had the other 5 seconds to cast -anything-
The OP never complained about basilisk regardless, so there weren’t any stuns, and he stood there for at LEAST 5 seconds letting the thief land heartseeker after heartseeker after heartseeker on him.
Anyone would get torn apart by any class if they literally stood there and didn’t cast anything for 6 seconds—casual play or not.
The only items that mean anything to me are pve items since I own a pve-mega guild so there really isn’t any pvp incentive for me, nor has their ever been. I’m rank 43 atm and I pvp because I love it. Sure it could use some improvements but the game play reminds me of a mix between PSO and Super Smash Bros and I find it entertaining and competitive.
What do you mean by guild rankings? Like ladder rankings within the guild for pvp? Because we already have that.
Do you mean a guild ranking ladder that ranks guilds by their pvp performance? If so, how do you propose they judge which guilds are better? Create a GvG type format?
I’m sorry, I just don’t know what you’re asking for.
But even if you have the best build and does not make a mistake it is possible that a thief takes you down. Even top players are dying in seconds from time to time if a thief catch them.
Actually no. In high-end tPvP it’s almost impossible for a thief to 1v1 any class (besides warrior).
Thief is literally one of the weakest classes in the high-end spectrum of the ladder and they’re even weaker 1v1.
Come on. Look at the stream from Ostricheggs or Teldo.
I only play Engineer so I watch only engineer streams. A quote from Teldo is: I am chasing the thief…ohhh… the thief is chasing me…. I am dead.
And on the spirit watch map was ostricheggs killed by a thief 3 times in ~2minutes. It was not a perfect 1on1. But the thief selected the perfect moment and killed ostrichegg.
It does not mean that the thief is winning 10 of 10 times. In a 1on1 situation it is important to have everything up to beat a good thief. I did not watch necro streams but I bet 10 duels between a top necro and a top thief will not end 10:0.
I haven’t watched these in particular but I know Ostrich runs a squishy HGH nade build and if he doesn’t have dodge-rolls or S available of course a thief can insta-burst him.
There’s only a handful of players in the top 100, or even 200 that tourney with thief, and majority of them are running venom share.
But even if you have the best build and does not make a mistake it is possible that a thief takes you down. Even top players are dying in seconds from time to time if a thief catch them.
Actually no. In high-end tPvP it’s almost impossible for a thief to 1v1 any class (besides warrior).
Thief is literally one of the weakest classes in the high-end spectrum of the ladder and they’re even weaker 1v1.
My problem with the thread is that it’s saying: “Thief is OP because it bursted me down from stealth”
instead of: “I was just burst to death by a thief, how can I improve”
People are expecting us to answer the 2nd question when it was never asked and are getting mad at us for responding to the first.
You went afk and died? I don’t see the problem.
if you weren’t afk you need to uninstall. He hit you with opening burst..followed by auto attacks..followed by 3 heartseekers…ran out of initiative and proceeded to do more auto attacks. this only happens if you are literally standing still afk. or … if you have absolutely no clue how to even move your character.
This exactly. Anyone whose played thief and looks at what he did to you would come to the logical conclusion that you had no idea what you were doing if he could land all those and you never hit him with a single thing during that time.
Lets not judge, I have 3 80s and rank 32 pvp, I’m not a noob. I couldn’t react. And how does Flame Blast work? Isn’t it an engineer’s skill with 6 second cd? How can it be used twice in such a short time?
Let’s not judge? I’m rank 43 and just play thief in tourneys. Are you on the ladder? Do you play pvp competitively at all or is this really your first time fighting a 2spam thief? He didn’t even engage you with shortbow or wait to spike you when you were 60-50% health. He literally opened his combo with you at (full???) health and 2spammed you to death which is remarkably hard to do unless you’re afk or have no idea what you’re doing. The fact that he could pull all of that on you means you’re not doing something right. You’re actually doing a lot of things wrong if he lands all of that on you and you don’t hit him with a single attack.
The fact that you don’t even know what was happening demonstrates your lack of technical knowledge in the game. The thief had a rune of fire on his dagger (or pistol we don’t know because he only spammed 2 on you and you died). Sigil of fire is sub-par to sigil of air for single targets. He proceeded to 2spam you until you died.
I don’t know why you say stealth was the problem. All it did was give him the first strike, which he would have gotten anyway with steal.
Stealth wasn’t the problem. Failing to understand how to react to a weak burst seems to be the real problem.
You went afk and died? I don’t see the problem.
if you weren’t afk you need to uninstall. He hit you with opening burst..followed by auto attacks..followed by 3 heartseekers…ran out of initiative and proceeded to do more auto attacks. this only happens if you are literally standing still afk. or … if you have absolutely no clue how to even move your character.
This exactly. Anyone whose played thief and looks at what he did to you would come to the logical conclusion that you had no idea what you were doing if he could land all those and you never hit him with a single thing during that time.
“222222222” – random thief
I think he hit enter on accident :l
I should purposely do this when I kill someone just to see them go “..wow…”
pretty sure this is the best one:
1) ele
2) asura
3) charr
5) warrior
7) lyssa
8) norn
While I was stealth stomping a player once…
“The coward is strong in you”Lolllll…
niiiiiiice ahahaha
“learn to play a real class”
Thanks a lot for this info! I hope more top players come out and share builds and tips like this. I also appreciate what that youtube esports guy is doing interviewing players like ovi and ostrich for their builds.
It really means a lot to us working on getting better at pvp.
From one of my team-mates: “I will solo svanir”
I don’t know if you think it’s funny because he doesn’t want the team to help? Or that you think it’s too hard to do?
It’s his famous last words, meaning he died and that was the last thing he said… meaning he went to solo svanir and died from it… the point being if you say you’re going to solo it then be sure you actually know how to solo it.
Explaining a joke sort of ruins it =\
From one of my team-mates: “I will solo svanir”
It’s late so humor me.
“spam 2 more noob”
Worked when I tried it. It takes a while to test because the leaderboards don’t update on schedule, not for me at least.
If they log out mid-match it will still record the loss and then display it the next time they complete a match. So if they leave 10 times in a row at any point from the 2min pre-match window and the end of the match, the next time they finish a match even if they win it will count up the 10 losses and 1 win.
But yeah I agree there needs to be more of a penalty. I read somewhere else where someone suggested leaving = 2 losses. Lockouts seem silly to me because most of the time closing the game means you’re going to watch netflix or browse tumblr the next couple hours anyway.
red team resign