5 daily chests a day and I don’t get anything special except for kitten fractal weapon skins I already unlocked. One after another. I don’t count the rings as special, obviously.
I posted about this weeks ago, it wasn’t picked up.
My ring was fresh out of a newly dropped chest of the mists and came infused. I attuned it just to see if that would affect the Stabilizing Matrix yield when salvaged. The result was no yield at all because it couldn’t be salvaged.
I believe this is a bug because there’s no indication or even a hint in the ring or the attuning process that this is an intended consequence.
By now I’ve spent more time trying to get in than actually playing it.
Edit: I just made it into a game, with 1:12 on the clock. But when it tried to move me to a new game when the clock ran out: code 33, world full. I’m in an instance now, with about 20 players and no ticking clock. I can now play until I disconnect, I guess.
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Well, that’s your experience.
My experience just now was that I still need to try for 10 minutes to get into it, and then ended up in an instance with just 01:00 on the clock. At the end of that minute, I got kicked back to Divinity’s to start all over again. Which I didn’t.
When there was a patch earlier I thought this would be the thing they’d be fixing.
No such luck.
Quality of the implementation of the new content may have something to do with it. The majority of repeatable HoT content is not suitable for the client-server model used for the game, and everything suffers because of that. And that’s me being nice about it.
Another very helpful post. Thank you very much.
I’ve been earning 5 fractal daily chest per day since HoT launched. Those chests aren’t the solution, they’re the problem. They keep giving me excessive amounts of useless crap fractal weapon skins that I’ve already unlocked, instead of useful drops. Those useful drops aren’t “guaranteed” as you claim. That’s the crux of the problem. Quite often, I get useless rubbish instead. When those chests you highlighted in the screenshot drop you a fractal weapon skin, they don’t drop you a Stabilizing Matrix, despite the bold claim that the chest will. It’s a lie.
This isn’t even about the specific stuff I’m not getting. It’s about getting loot that I can do nothing with except “right-click -> destroy -> yes”.
Having to destroy the drops I’m supposed to consider the “special”, “better” reward options, that’s stupid. There’s really no other word for it, except ones that would get me infracted.
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I’d applaud it if they’d bench people for a week or so, for just spouting out random spoilers for no other reason than to annoy people. Letting something slip in an honest conversation is one thing, but just shouting things like “John dies at the end” for no apparent reason is quite another.
I don’t care about Star Wars in particular, it’s just the principle.
The happiness is subjective. The occurrence to be designed specifically like that has in fact a use, and some people recognize that dropping something “useless” in a game generally has a use in and of itself.
The stupidity isn’t in dropping useless items per se, but in presenting the useless item as a special drop to be celebrated.
But this is too complicated for you to understand. It seems you already have all the fractal skins, but not everyone is in your situation.
Hence my suggestion to drop the random “special” reward in addition to the regular reward, and not instead of it. But I guess that’s too complicated for you to accept as a solution that will eventually be better for everyone who regularly plays fractals. Because eventually, everyone will be looking at what popped out of the box and wonder what to do with this skin that’s already unlocked, and conclude that right-click->destroy->yes is the only good option.
Hence again subjective. Your whole “fact” is based on you as subject. It is not useless in all cases.
My “fact” is that it’s incredibly stupid to give any individual a reward that’s useless to him and pretend it’s something special. I’m not singling myself out, you’re doing that.
In fact, your entire argument is based on RNG being stupid once it gives you things you can’t use. Getting nothing as a random reward is not per definition stupid.
Sure, but getting something you need to destroy to get rid of it, that’s stupid.
And as with all stupidity, it would be so easy to fix. That’s a property of stupidity: it’s never hard to do better. Give them a merchant value, like the useless broken spoons and ascended rings pre-HoT. Or, like I suggested many time before by now, make them a drop in addition to the regular time-gated drops instead of having them replace those. Or make them salvageable. Make them dance like a monkey. I don’t care, really.
Just don’t make me destroy my loot. That’s stupid.
I’m not counting on a fix though. This kind of stupidity is ingrained in this game. (He said, looking sadly at the multiple account-bound bird minipets he got from Black Lion chests that he hasn’t destroyed yet out out of a misplaced hope that they’ll ever be useful.)
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I noticed that too, just now. Approaching over the Quaggan path, I can be looking at a full grid of presents without a player in sight, and when I make the final approach to the Tixx safezone before the presents, the presents will start popping.
Unfortunately, only players pay it any.
It is an objective fact that it’s incredibly stupid to give someone something totally useless and hold back the regular useful drop and call it a special reward.
There’s this knee-jerk response to call everything an “opinion”, as if some things people say on forums can absolutely never be objective facts. You fell into that. This instance of someone posting something on a forum is actually an objective fact.
Hardly a knee jerk response. It’s a fact you can’t recognize that everything you observe is merely from your point of view. You don’t even know what is objective and what is subjective in your statement.
The fact that not everyone agrees with your statement in itself is proof enough. It means the statement is dependent per subject. Also known to be subjective. Proclaiming something like that as fact as if it counters all arguments is hilarious.
Find me someone who’d be happy to take something useless over something worth (apparently, I haven’t checked) 36 silver. And I mean useless. That person doesn’t get to turn around and invent a use for it. Really, irrevocably useless. Like the green card for the American citizen.
The fact that not everybody agrees with my statement proves nothing about my statement.
So basically because i have all the fractal skins and i don’t need them anymore the drop tables should be changed despite many other people not having close to all of them. Oh that’s nice of you. Apparently because something is worthless to you it’s worthless to everyone.
I have got a fractal drop ever… In several years of playing. So clearly the drop rate is too low and that’s “incredibly stupid”. The amount is kitten on display here is too kitten high.
Eventually they will be worthless to everyone who continues to play fractals long enough.
And well done ignoring the solution I’ve posted not once but twice, and making me out to be someone who begrudges other people happy drops : make those useless kitten things drop in addition to the regular time-gated drop, not instead of it. Everyone can be happy. I should report you for defaming my character.
You may say that. Infused rings can be quite profitable though if you’re lucky. I’ve had as many as 22 matrices from them, and 20 several times.
Attuned and infused rings are a different matter altogether. They can’t be salvaged at all. I tried with a useless ring, just to see what would drop from it. I reported it as a bug weeks ago, because it’s not at all apparent that they shouldn’t be salvageable.
its not just that it can be bought, its that it can be obtained via fractals. He doesnt have to buy anything, he can just salvage his extra rings/ascended boxes he got from fractals.
Those are the things I’m not getting when I get another one of those useless skins. 3 in 5 days so far.
It is an objective fact that it’s incredibly stupid to give someone something totally useless and hold back the regular useful drop and call it a special reward.
There’s this knee-jerk response to call everything an “opinion”, as if some things people say on forums can absolutely never be objective facts. You fell into that. This instance of someone posting something on a forum is actually an objective fact.
If you want a real-world analogy, this is like someone born into a American nationality being awarded a green card instead of wages at work some weeks.
And for the record, they didn’t drop often before the patch. Never at all for me in fact, which is why I bought them with pristine relics. They only started dropping for me, at an alarming rate, after the december 15 patch that was supposed to improve rewards. I don’t consider this an improvement.
Like I said before, these things should drop in addition to the regular time-gated drop, not instead of it. At the very least they should drop a weapon box instead of a random weapon skin, so people that don’t have all of them unlocked will enjoy the drop instead of having an ever-increasing chance that the next drop will be a useless disappointment, as their collections grows.
If you can’t bother to read what I write, don’t comment.
Fractal weapon skins can’t be salvaged, sold, or TPed.
I get them from doing the fractal dailies.
They drop instead of the things you tell me to salvage.
They are supposed to be some kind of special prize. They aren’t. They’re worthless. They’re a random chance for me to get no reward to speak of at all from a fractal box.
They say people have a better chance to be struck by lightning than to win the lottery.
If fractal daily chests are a lottery, getting a fractal weapon skin isn’t the equivalent of winning the lottery. They’re the lightning.
They don’t vendor, they can’t be salvaged or TPed. I could in fact use those things to apply that specific skin to a weapon without paying a transformation charge, but I already started using the ones I like at the time I got them for the first time. I’m not going to start reserving space for them on the off chance I might save a transformation charge in the far future.
I’m not too bothered about it, I just think it’s incredibly stupid. I had 3 of these “rewards” in the not-even-a-week since the patch, at the time I started on a path requiring a lot of Stabilizing Matrices, and the skins drop instead of those. It feels very unrewarding.
My first post in this thread was reasonably stating my issue. Then someone comes in and picks at one little detail (the price of a Stabilizing Matrix), totally ignoring the grander issue. At that point I felt I should perhaps emphasize that issue so there could be no misunderstandings.
Rubbish rewards and incredible stupidity.
I don’t see a problem with a system where you get something you don’t need but have a way to convert those items into things you do while benefiting other players willing to sell them at the same time. I don’t see any stupidity in that.
No, there wouldn’t be anything stupid about such a system at all. But that’s not what I’m talking about, is it?
Yes, GW works this way. Obviously. I wouldn’t be complaining about it otherwise, duh.
And it’s not just my opinion that it’s
incredibly stupid
It’s an objective fact.
Getting something with no value or purpose as a “special” drop, something you really only desire to destroy to stop it from cluttering up your inventory, there’s no situation where that’s not incredibly stupid. Getting nothing at all would actually be better, it would save us the trouble of having to destroy this “reward”.
I just don’t play that rubbish. Problem solved.
Doesn’t matter how much they cost. I never buy anything I can get by playing. It’s just
incredibly stupid
that a reward that’s supposed to be special, actually is the last thing you’d want to see and you’d be happier with a single copper.
Incredibly stupid
and not thought through at all, because if the persons who thought of that would have any empathy for the player experience, they’d realize that it’s really
incredibly stupid
I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:
First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.
When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.
I’ve been invisiballed several times myself. I’ve made it a habit to look all the way up where the balls are coming from before proceeding up the ramp they roll down on. If the next visible ball seems too far away, I’m assuming there’s an invisible one in front of it.
Well, this year is another year with fresh new bugs and other annoyances. I wouldn’t dismiss anything out of hand.
I can’t get in either. I could yesterday.
I tried 8 times in a row and all I see are loading screens. Wonderland screen for a few seconds, then Divinity’s Reach screen.
Maybe one of those invisible rolling snowballs is blocking the entrance.
and its either wrong or simply unfair for everyone that did NOT
played the story on all 5 races before HoT .. because we got mutiple points for
each race for all races we did before HoT Release.I have counted all my points and i had 9 for level 10,20 and 30 story for Norn,
Human and Asura.And after i wrote a ticket the first time Support told me its a known bug and i
should wait for a patch. And after the post from the Dev here suddenly they
say if i still believe its a bug i should write it in the forums and they can’t help
me.
Thats just a bad joke where one hand doesn’t know what the other does, and
i gues Joshua doesn’t know how the conversion of the points at HoT release
really worked .. because if he is right i should have even 6 points less.
I had all the hero achievements before HoT came out, and they only account for 11 mastery points total: 9 for the stories, 2 for some other achievements. No doubling up for having done all the stories before HoT.
Speaking for my own situation, the accounting on this (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mastery_point_unlocks) wiki page is correct as far as Central Tyria is concerned.
I have 13 points in excess of maxing all CT masteries (costing 49), with 4 yet unearned, for a possible 66 mastery points.
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There’s a “Black Lion Weapon Specialist” in the BL post that’s just west of the Grand Piazza in LA. He’ll show you an option to trade for limited-time claim tickets, if you’re carrying one of those tickets.
This is terrible. I spent 10 minutes getting everything mostly back the way I want it, and after the next login everything was back to default again.
Windows 7, 32 bit.
That might be useful if they ever add more mastery lines.
The fractal weapon drops actually made my daily chests worse today than they were pre-dec-15.
The only thing I can do with them is destroy them. A single Stabilizing Matrix would be a better drop.
Please let these fall in addition to the Stabilizing Matrix, not instead of. Getting drops that are quite literally completely worthless is not what I would call “improved rewards”.
All I am trying to say is that most of the feedback around here is unsubstantial and does not provide exploitable information other than the fact that most people don’t want to work for achievements anymore. Which curiously takes away the meaning of achievement.
There is still plenty of enjoyable content around (and I doubt anyone has ever done everything) which is why I really do not understand all the fuzz.
Most of the feedback is very substantial.
Many people don’t want any kind of progress of any other aspect of the game locked behind “adventures”.
That’s all. All the rest is just obfuscation caused by people who have gotten it into their heads that something they write could change that desire.
Yes, the more times you gamble, the higher your cumulative chance to get at least one winning result. It’s not rocket science.
Please don’t talk about stuff you don’t know about. Qazwersder is 100% right.
Get a clue.
“The “total” chance to get at least 1 favourable outcome does increase with multiple attempts, obviously.”
If you deny this, you’re saying that someone who gambles once has the same chance of ending up with a precursor when he’s done gambling as someone who gambles one billion times.
The “total” chance to get at least 1 favourable outcome does increase with multiple attempts, obviously. I don’t know if the numbers are correct, but that formula sure is.
Opinions aren’t welcome here. Didn’t you know?
People will always either try to talk you out of them, berate you for character flaws implied by holding said opinion, or go off on tangents where they push straw men off of slippery slopes. The conclusion is always that you’re being unreasonable.
Or maybe people actually are just unreasonable?
Like I said:
“…berate you for character flaws implied by holding said opinion…”
Opinions aren’t welcome here. Didn’t you know?
People will always either try to talk you out of them, berate you for character flaws implied by holding said opinion, or go off on tangents where they push straw men off of slippery slopes. The conclusion is always that you’re being unreasonable.
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That “most people but not me” comment makes me seriously wonder if Zera has ever met people.
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HoT is at fault. It causes frustration because of its many flaws and outright badly designed content.
If you’re a veteran and you didn’t already have enough central Tyria mastery points the moment HoT came out, playing as you had been playing before HoT isn’t going to give you any more points.
Huh? Yesterday I killed the Karka Queen and got a Mastery point. I’d killed the Karka Queen many times in the past. Explain please.
There’s a few new achievements, sure, but the vast majority of mastery points is behind old achievements. If you didn’t do those already as a veteran, you won’t be doing them if you keep playing like you played before. Because that way you still won’t get those old achievements.
It’s suppose to take a long time. It’s only “grinding nightmare” because you want to unlock everything yesterday. They are account wide abilities that any level 80 can contribute to.
Accept that these aren’t going to come tomorrow and simply play the game as you had been playing it before HoT.
If you’re a veteran and you didn’t already have enough central Tyria mastery points the moment HoT came out, playing as you had been playing before HoT isn’t going to give you any more points.
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Payola is still a thing?
I know the feeling. I may have it worse. HoT offers no reward that I want. I don’t like a single skin enough to motivate me to submit myself to the time-gated event cycles and rubbish mini-games. It’s all sound and fury with nothing to show for it. No thanks.
How is that going to happen when those who don’t like it are deemed salty and told to leave? Then you have a forum of people saying it’s great and nothing ends up changing and or the game dies.
There is a difference between not liking something and being salty while not liking something. Most of the posts on the forums lately have been salty posts about not liking something. But really non of this talk should have been brought to this thread, just shows you what a salty posting is.
Being salty about it makes more of an impression. I go out of my way to be salty, because there’s so much about HoT that’s total unmitigated rubbish. It deserves the saltiness. It deserves worse in fact, but that’s not going to be done to it over a forum.
3) if you want a special skin you should expect that it has special requirements that are reasonable. There is nothing unreasonable about expecting you to complete certain content provided (such as adventures)
Content isn’t reasonable just because it exists. If that were true, every game would be perfect. Sometimes, content just plain sucks, and any other content that requires completion of it, sucks by proxy.
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I have a lot of those shovels from my days in the Silverwastes. I never use them. Maybe I should sell them.
I’m looking forward to improved rewards.
Since the release of HoT, I’ve done all fractal dailies I could access at the time, every day. No exception. I was able to do all 5 from the third day onward. I haven’t had anything useful from those chests at all except for rings of which I had several dozens to begin with.
Oh, and I got a fractal weapon. An axe. An axe that I had already unlocked. At least I could destroy it without typing its name.
Also, well over a thousand fractal encryptions opened, and still no professor title. Maybe I’m just unlucky.
Bring on the fractal rework. And better bring it on next tuesday because the useless loot is getting old.