Guild Wars 2

Skyhammer is the most unbalanced crap that has ever been designed

It’s just not fair for most classes.

This map is the only reason many people quits gw2.

EU >> NA

Is it removed already from soloq? Id like to reinstall the game

Super.2749:

out of the 4 teams that got to the semi final, [TCG] was the only team that deserved to win the tournament.
TCG has tage, without doubt the best guardian in game.
Sizer the best 1v1 thief in game
helseth second best mesmer in game after sensotix.
rom best islamic singer eu!
danshee because he plays ele!

the reason that the other 3 teams didn’t have a chance and didn’t deserve to win:
[ELE] they play 8 hours a day and they are still not on TCG level.
[CC] 3 of the players didn’t play since pax [7 months] we didn’t even deserve to be in the semi finals.
Destructive influence – they had frae, he is bad because he 1 shotted me.
http://www.twitch.tv/xsuperxgw2/c/3921999

ELE were a strong opponent to TCG and the finals were really entertaining to watch.

Lux.7169:

style.6173:

This was a great tournament. Things I learned:

—#llamaprophecies and a lot of luck gets you a new finisher
—Precursors are not just for PvE players anymore
—If you lose, just do a Posi (joking aside, I hope that guy is banned from all future ANET sponsored tournaments. What a disgrace.)
—Mesmers are way more valuable to top teams than to average teams
—Eles are back

Great tournament and I’m looking forward to NA.

What did posi do?

Hard ragequit, apparently.

On topic: I really liked TCG comp, I hope we see more eles and mesmers around

TCG too strong

#elepocallypse

Allie, no one is allowed to make “I quit” topics, read the code of conduct please.

Jk, you were one of the best anets. Good luck wherever you go

Signet of spite is GW2’s “I win” button. It’s like Unleash the hounds in hearthstone (aka unleash the skill)

This kind of things shouldnt exist in any game. Imagine anet implemented dueling…

Duel starts.
Necro signet of spites
> repeat

You made me log in just to say that this map is terrible for any kind of competitive play.
It should never be in the rotation of gw2, not in soloq either.

It’s almost as bad and unbalanced as skyhammer.

Lol this interview has the collaboration of arenajunkies, and they have already closed their gw2 section. So sad.

Bart Weird.9671:

How about showing some initiative creating a poll
and promoting it via forums,fansites and ingame.

A well known pvper should do it, otherwise anet will keep ignoring us.

The sad part is that most of them already left

SunnyLane.9386:

anet just dont want to remove skyhammer/dont give a ____ about what we think.

I mean, everyone knows the map is terribly unfair. Anet knows too

If they want to rework the map it’s ok for me, but they should remove the map from the rotation meanwhile

Why is anet so obtuse on this topic?

Anet could do the best patch ever but it would still be countered by the existance of Skyhammer in soloqueue.

Reinstall gw2

Queue for solo arena

2x skyhammer pops.

Fighting vs 4 knockback engineers

uninstall.

Reinstalling when the map is removed from the rotation

You guys are destroying your own game by not listening to the community. Farewell.

If these runes make it into the game ill lose faith in anet.

The whole community is telling you not to add them

Skyhammer just destroys the soloq for many players

This 1 hundred times.

Id rather have capricorn in soloq than kitten skyhammer

Indeed, its the first time im happy with a pvp update. Also:

AR nerf
Warr nerf
Spirits nerf
PW nerf
Lyssa nerf
Dumbfire nerf

This patch is a dream .

In my opinion the unique PvP back skin should come from solo and team arena only.

IMO we don’t need more condi spam into PvP, it is getting ridiculous.

Say no to perplexity runes

#allisvain

How about not adding perplexity at all

5 stacks of confusion holy kitten

This rune set is broken

Ugruk.4069:

Marcos.3690:

Go play PvP now, so you can unlock rewards in PvE

Which ones?

The backpiece they showed, for example

Go play PvP now, so you can unlock rewards in PvE

Q: Are there skillful reward tracks?

example: achieving a certain position in the ladder

Karl McLain.5604:

DiogoSilva.7089:

Hey Allie! If it was possible, I would wish to get some clarification for the new elementalist’s traits too.

• Blinding Ashes – Is the ICD global, or per target?
• Elemental Contigency – Is the ICD global, or per attunement?
• Lightning Rod – 1) Is there any ICD? 2) What is lightning bolt’s damage value?

Thank you for your attention.

EDIT: Seems like I wasn’t the only one to have the same idea. x)

Thanks for the questions. Here are some answers:

• Blinding Ashes ICD (Internal Cooldown) is ‘global’, where it activates once and goes on recharge. The trait works much better in small engagements.
• Elemental Contingency’s Internal Cooldown is currently once every 10 seconds.
• Lightning Rod has no ICD. It will activate as often as a target allows you to interrupt them. The damage value of this trait is similar to that of Halting Strike.
  Weakness duration is 4 seconds base (but you’re putting points into Fire, so add 30% duration on that).

Does the new grandmaster earth trait work with lingering elements?

No respawns ftw!

Also tanky amulets should be forbidden

Id also like to try the classic valkyrie sd build but taking advantage of the new regeneration and cleansing water:

0/20/0/30/20

Please. Let’s discuss about the possible removal of Skyhammer from the solo arena rotation.

The players could try to answer these questions:

- Should the map be removed? Yes or No?

- Would you rework the map instead?

- Should the map be temporary removed while it’s being fixed?

- Is the map balanced for all proffessions?

- What do you like the most about Skyhammer? What do you like the least?

- Should the cannon be dodgeable?

Dagger-focus:

0-20-30-0-20

Air:
Zephyr’s boon
Air training (so you can spam air#1 for damage)

Earth
Elemental shielding or stone splinters
Rock solid for easy ether renewal (to counter condis)
Stone heart (to counter power/crit)

Arcana (20)
Renewing stamina
Elemental attunement
- The reason to get up to 20 in arcana is because you need the lingering elements for stone heart. Also elemental attunement will always be amazing. Even if you switch out of earth you are still immune to crits.

> Why focus? Because you still want the extra condi cleansing and you can use earth#5 if you are forced to leave the earth attunement. Also a build with 3 invulnerabilities (burning speed, obsidian flesh and mistform) allows you to play berserker. Even if you are an ele.

Other variants:
-10 air, +10 Arcana (more condi cleanse, faster rotation into earth, less damage)
-20 air, +20 fire, or even: -20 air, -5 arcana, +25 fire (yolo fire!)

ThiBash.5634:

The trait itself sounds like a great trait against thieves, warriors and other zerkers. But my concern is that it’ll be too good. Because instead of toning down insane bursts, or making eles a bit tougher, Anet opted to make a hard counter to them.

I fear that now, ele defense will be balanced around the assumption that they’ll use Stone Heart against burst builds and Diamond Skin against condition builds. This means that builds that use neither will nog get buffed, simply because ‘the ele is in a good place against build x’. My fear is that, because we now have hard counters, we are effectively told to shut up in terms of balance complaints.

And I don’t like that prospect…

You can actually deal with conditions while using stone earth picking the stability trait and ether renewal.

Thedenofsin.7340:

Cheese Mode ran double warrior – won nearly every tournament.

/thread

Cheese mode was not the best before the warrior meta

/thread x2

trampled underfoot.4523:

I posted this in another larger post just now but thought it best to ask this in a seperate post:

Would anyone suggest that say, the winning team of any major tournament that Aanet runs; running NO warrior and engineer decap would lose to another average or even above average team that ran only those top “overpowered” classes and/or builds? I would place my money on the coordinated, tournament winning team everytime.

Anyone disagree? If so, discuss.

Yes.

A 10/10 team can lose to a let’s say 7,5/10 team that is using these classes.

Josh Davis.6015:

The idea about the enrage timers is fairly interesting. This map is going to play a lot differently than the 2v2 or 3v3s you see in Forest/Foefire. There is a lot of terrain to LoS on, and it’s fairly easy to disengage and reset. Tyler Chapman and I have had some extended duels on the map, but there’s definitely more flavor in it than just going head-to-head on a flat plane.

When it comes to feedback (after you guys have had a chance to play it), I think the scoring is going to be an interesting subject. Is this going to be a one-life type of deal, or solely based on timer? First option gives you much more of an arena feel, second is more deathmatch. Good news is you can replicate a lot of these options with the existing custom arena settings.

Anyways, I look forward to seeing what you guys think once you get into the map. I’m sorry to hear that you’ll be gone for training, Cheri. We’ll see you when you get back.

Dont you think thieves might abuse the size of the map?

I know that we all hate capture points but maybe if the inner circle in the map was a capture point as big as foefire’S we could prevent stealth abusing and thiefs kiting all around the map.

The team that wins the fight (there is no respawn) will cap the node and win the game

Free legendary for NA players
Well earnt legendary for EU players

Justin ODell.9517:

Just wanted a throw out a shout to Allie. She was just now laying the smack down regarding warriors being an issue.

#allieisourchampion

Warrior is a well known issue
Have you guys talked about decap engineer? What are your thoughts?

Justin ODell.9517:

Simplest answer I can give is that it just isn’t as high a priority as other things we have been working on.

Why do you feel custom arenas do not work for those that want to duel?

In every MMO dueling has created a very healthy community of PvPers that love to compete vs each other and improve at the same time.

The current “join a server” doesn’t promote this.

@Justin ODell.

All the anounced changes for the April patch are really good, and the devs have done a really good job. Redoing all the runes and sigils? That’s quite impressive.

However. The announced changes so far don’t adress the major issues the game currently has, and this worries me a lot. I understand that the devs work hard and don’t have much time to play, and this causes a secession between the direction the game goes and the direction it really needs to take. Sometimes when you work exclusively in something you forget about the real world.

I’m currently studing engineering and luckily I have studied many statistics subjects, therefore I understand that the forum population is not an objective sample. But although it’s not the best sample it’s the only one you guys have, and we do reflect the major concerns of the PvP community. People hanging around in the mists do share our thoughts, and the ones enjoying maps like skyhammer are indeed a minority.

Players want your game to succeed as much as you do. If there are 10+ forum threads about the same topic, investigate it.
- Is it really gamebreaking?
- Is it easy to fix? If not, can we apply a temporary solution?
- What mistakes did we commit that lead to this situation?

The last thing that the playerbase needs is an empty “We are reading your feedback”. We need real, tangible reactions to our concerns. Otherwise the PvP community will lose faith in the company and move to another MMO.

What I’m trying to say is that although Anet is doing a good job, the devs are not focusing on the important issues. I have the impression that the different teams working on PvP (balance, servers, pvp team, etc) are not working together and that makes me think that there isn’t anyone leading them to a common goal.

The PvP project needs someone that gathers these teams together in a room and makes them work together. The different teams have to talk: Where are we going? Is the community happy? Should we introduce new traits or fix the existing ones first? Can we work together to achieve balance?

I’ll give an example about working together on balance.

- Decap engineers are currently a broken build that is ruining GW2 for many players. I understand that the balance team might be busy and they cannot fix it any time soon, but they could get some help from the map design team. The map designer could add some walls to certain nodes that could be used to prevent the decap thus promote skillful play.

On the other hand, the balance team could help the map designer on the Skyhammer issue. They could investigate which classes are having the hardest time in that map and give them accessible stability or some kind of skyhammer invulnerability (some classes have it, others don’t). At the same time they could look at the builds that are dominating that specific map.

Working without proper planification never ends up well. However if you stop for a while and think you can come with easier and faster solutions.

Some of the major concerns are: Warriors, decap engis, pistol whip thiefs and skyhammer. None of these issues were addressed in the upcoming patch and now we have to wait another couple of months for another patch. That’s the reason that frustrates players the most.

English is not my native language, but I hope that I made my thoughts clear.

Signed,
a former PvP player that would love to come back but can’t find the proper reason.

I lost faith in this balance team a long time ago. Every decision they make is wrong.

Why did they redo every runeset and sigil, introduce new sigil rulings and traits, etc if the main problems still remain?

They have wasted a huge amount of time and they didnt fix any of the issues: they keep adding more and more problems to the game.

If they listened to the community:
Decap engi would be nerfed
Warrior would be nerfed
Thief would be nerfed.

With the above mentioned nerfs and the removal of skyhammer the game would be so much better…

I know the balance guys work hard but their priorities are totally wrong. I highly doubt that they ever played pvp at all.

1) It decaps nodes really fast.

2) It easily takes 3x or 4x that time to kill them. It also requires 2 of your players.

3) Meanwhile the other team is outnumbering at mid and they are generating more points/second.

4) Once you lose mid there’s no hope. You cannot leave your home undefended since the decap engi will go again and again. You cannot outnumber mid/far and even if you get the kills the enemy team keeps respawning and you lose because of the time.

tldr;
Decap engi is not overpowered, but it abuses all the flaws of the conquest game mode and destroys the fun to everyone.

Anton.1769:

Marcos.3690:

Anet can make a really nice patch, but as long as decap engi is so overpowered you cannot enjoy PvP in this game.

They have not introduced anything to counter them yet they want the meta to settle for another 4 months. This doesn’t make any sense.

angry thief can not kill engi?

Angry ele.

Greetings.

I have high hopes for this map because it’s the only way to get rid of stupid builds like decap engi ( since anet is not going to nerf them)

Id love the idea of implementing a rater queue with 1 Life/player

@OP you are clueless about this game

Surferboy.1649:

I don’t see decap engis as overpowered, just as really annoying. and sorry, but for annoying you can’t nerf a build.
Otherwise they would have nerfed stealth, evade, block, stun, daze, ………..

An average decap engi can earn a 300 points advantage to their team in a soloq match

There’s a build mocking at the game mode anet deffends so much, and they don’t even try to shave it down.

Ele did the same back then and they nerfed it big time. Did anet give up?

Exactly. Devs keep saying that they play the game, but if they really did they would understand how broken some builds are.

And among all the broken builds, there is one that makes the game frustrating to play. And that’s the decap engi.

Anet can make a really nice patch, but as long as decap engi is so overpowered you cannot enjoy PvP in this game.

They have not introduced anything to counter them yet they want the meta to settle for another 4 months. This doesn’t make any sense.