All classes come pre made. They just give the illusion of choice.
If you want to run full support/healer for example you’d go
Revenant – glint/ventari
Elementalisit- wants to run a support he runs…staff*. The utilities really won’t matter (except for personal defense.) The other weapon sets kind of work but don’t have water fields so… his build is even more locked in stone (water/arcane/x)
The only REAL choice they give to other classes is the choice for new players to make bad worthless builds.
*I suppose after HoT you will actually have the choice of tempest or standard staff ele for full support/healer. But one could argue rev has about the same amount of choices (vanilla revenant vs herald, staff ventari vs hammer ventari, etc in some ways revs have more choices)
edit: ON TRAITS depends on class. Ele mesmer thief don’t change much with traits but traits can certainly customize some classes. Playing a condi traps shortbow ranger is a heck of a lot different than a beastmaster power longbow ranger for instance. Getting an entirely new ability (pet taunt) is certainly a customization.
It’s actually not terrible suggestions since anet is obviously inclined to go the direction they are in.
It’d require some work though converting dungeon paths into FOTM. Gotta add the instabilities and such. So it couldn’t happen in time for HoT. Maybe down the line. And of course not every single one would be appropriate for a fractal.
Not saying I like the change (I like to farm dungeons for cash)…but there is some serious hypocrisy going on here. You guys say the dungeon community LOVEs dungeons in one breath then say it will kill the community in another just because they nerf the monetary reward? If you really like doing an activity the monetary reward being slightly nerfed isn’t going to affect it.
Interesting thoughts. No specific comments as I am not much of a condi player nor did I play mallyx much, but it looks like quality suggestions so bumping. +1
I am really looking for an update to all the classes on what changes they made since the last BWE. It is always nice to read those “patch notes” and know what we are in for. It would also allow us to make any last-minute modifications to gear if we decided to alter our builds.
They’ve already talked about daredevils, druids, and dragon hunters. It’s easiest to just follow http://dulfy.net/category/gw2-news/ for the latest than it is trying to dig through these forums
Better to just buy a legendary (currently, we’ll see with HoT) than go to all the trouble the doing the recipe. (IMO.)
OP what you don’t seem to get is that time = gold (or money.) So you say you can waste time but not money…but they are the same thing. If it takes you three months to make a legendary that is the same as ~3k gold or whatever if you’d been farming gold instead in silverwastes and dungeons and just bought it out right.
In real life its different since sometimes you are in circumstances where you are forced to have time (medical reasons or you are too young etc), or you do not have skills yet (i.e. a good education.) But in GW2 time literally equals money.
Day 6 – hope and will to survive fading. Little sustenance to be found. Merely scraps here and there. It is a cold day, Bob is looking grim. Their is talk of eating him if the Revenant is not released soon.
just..let…it…go…. who cares, racials are bad, out of everything in this game, this is the one thing you want to complain about so consistently? there are actual issues that the devs are working on.
This shouldn’t even be an issue in the fist place. There’s no reason arbitrarily remove something all classes have.
ORLLY
How long have you been developing games? Made any we’d know? Clearly you know how all this works behind the scenes right…?
Cause I’m sure the devs who have years of coding and game dev experience just wake up one day and spin a wheel for arbitrary decisions to make that day.
I kinda liked this part of the auto :/ it made it feel different from all the other sword skills out there. Oh well, at least we still have the cool stabby stab animation on the 1st part
yeah but sometimes usability > coolness…a projectile on a melee auto doen’t feel right
Does launching hammers at range, bashing people with a magic weapon or poisoning with a mace feel right? It’s like Revenant’s thing to use weapons in weird hipster ways.
he’s talking about it literally not being usable or hurting you when you use it. Like certain areas in the game it just misses because of wonky terrain and your damage is cut in half. Certain PvE encounters (and when ppl caught on pvp too) have reflects so you hurt yourself…
The upside of the attack was incredibly minor at best with working with that gm flanking trait (which may have gotten nerfed 6 months from now anyway.)
Anyone who dislikes this change probably hasn’t played enough of gw2 or enough of rev/guardian to have experienced it. A projectile on a melee attack is hair pulling annoying is certain situations.
Glad to hear you all can’t wait until launch, me too. It’ll be here soon™, exciting times!
Please give the pre-orderererererers get it a few days before launch I love my Revenant and need to kill zhaitan again and catch up with the story and get it to level 80 before HoT story Dx I need my Revvy
yes please! even 3-4 days would be great. I like to have story up to date on my mains… not to mention it’d be nice to have some mapping and such done…
Soooo Roy, remember that thread about possibly releasing rev early so we could start HoT with other players and get important things like hero points and waypoints?
had any thoughts about that yet? :P
How dare you give me hope more obsession! Now I will be checking the news and boards even more…
Mid tier. Definitely not top nor bottom. Similar to an engi in that you can fill a fair amount of rolls but not all at once.
With icebow4 nerf though (and necro getting boosted with reaper etc) you have to keep in mind DPS tiers are a lot closer than they’ve ever been too…so its not really any good way to look at a class unless you are really into dungeon speedrun records.
Things will be shifting away from dungeons as the PvE go to as well. Fractals will be changing. Raids are coming. Really hard to say where revs will fall.
I think the general pug will see them as a replacement for a guard or war but not quite as good as either.
Thanks Gaile, I agree some of this negativity is completely uncalled for.
Confused though, is this post saying that the decorations and such are going up today/soon? As I thought we already knew Halloween was coming (was I assuming that?)
…and the boon striping/stealing/corrupting classes can always stand to have more opportunities to show off their mechanics.
Especially in raids. Hint-Hint.
Hint.
No seriously, more boons on raid bosses.
As a side discussion I have to say this is what surprised me most about HOT. I expected them to be giving a few specializations (at least 3) boon strip capabilities with HOT and make boon strip a far more common thing for people to help address Elementalists (and other boon heavy professions) in PvP and add a new layer of difficulty for PvE as well by giving boons to mobs.
I’ve gotten lots of feedback, increasingly so with time, about this part of the sword auto-attack chain. I’ll be changing this skill so that it will no longer use a projectile attack and instead it will become a normal melee attack which applies vulnerability.
its like half an ele (being able to switch utilities instead of attunement) but not many combos + a mix of thief (in terms of feel/energy and mobility but only with target avail) but no stealth plus a lil warrior/guard. It’s its own beast. Like a mage spellsword sort of.
learn basic math people, please… 100% means it doubles fury’s effect…
fury gives 20% flat extra crit chance. So 100% of 20 is…20 so 20 + 20 = 40% you’ll get from fury. In other words you are only getting +20% extra crit chance from the trait. Not 100% crit chance…….
It’s probably going to be like silverwaster’s carapace armor acquisition. They’re probably going for something similar with the new maps.
That’s something I would have a big problem with. The RNG behind the carapace stuff and getting the right organs as well as boxes with non-luminecent armor really wasn’t fun to deal with. I’m all for hard and prestigious rewards but I want to earn them, not depend on RNG.
Really? My problem was doing the stupid facepalm achieves for lumi armor. The grind was fine. (to me)
My problem with humans (and norn and sylvari too) is how they swing that sword animation (autoattack.) Like their entire back breaks backward while their lower legs stay stiff…. (surely I am not the only one who noticed/has a problem?)
But I’ve never had a problem finding humans good looking armor. Not sure I follow the problem there.
You are confused…they/we just don’t want there to be a zerk ONLY meta. That doesn’t mean that no one EVER uses zerk…
Currently they are running about 4 people in heal/sustain gear for raids out of 10. About right. Not sure what your problem is…
Think of it this way, enrage timers are there to keep someone from potential soloing or duoing it. Although soft enrage timers work too, I barely see a difference really.
Reaper was the main one I noticed as scary. You have to be real careful not to let them get close.
Otherwise too early to tell whats OP or not. For whatever reason I only ran across one druid and didn’t realize it at the time (kept going wtf why am I dazed so much lol)
edit: wow, chrono and scrapper are up there as well!
please..don’t inflict this on us devs… or fix the tech
edit – would race make a difference in making the projectiles hit or not? Like would it be worse on asura or charr? If we do end up being stuck with it just wondering…i.e. because of height/vs height of objects around
I’m assuming most people who are having trouble with revs are glassy direct damage builds who don’t know how to fight a rev (not that any of us do fully yet.) On bruiser builds I havn’t met a rev I’ve had a problem with. I also hear condi builds are great vs revs.
Obviously a properly balanced NEW glass SHOULD be a bit OP since knowledge to counter them is a bit lacking.
unless you want something more glassy (sword-sword) or condi build go staff/hammer mix of zerker and soldier gear. I like more shiro/glint but its far more up to your play style what you want to pick. Could see a lot of possibilities …
As much as I like the hammer, I think there is an oversight on the Revenant design. We are the only profession that has one ranged weapon, when others have at least 2. It feels like the Rev is missing a mainhand or one hand ranged weapon like scepter or something.
Not counting new specs…
Pretty sure guardian only has one real ranged weapon (scepter.)
Ele really only has staff. Scepter is never used seriously IN fights (only before.)
Thief doesnt really have any good ranged dps, shortbow is good for aoe but not single target, pp maybe now after buff?
Only ‘melee’ oriented class that has more options is warrior and that’s kinda part of their thing.
I guess what I’m saying is they may TECHNICALLY have at least two but one always sucks bad. So practically most profs only have one ranged option except like mesmer and engi.
So yea, I’d say rev is in a good spot. If we got another option itd probably suck compared to hammer anyway. (not that I’d turn down more options just sayin)
Anyone have any SS of a flashy asura? Like particle effects (radiant or hellfire, flamekissed, etc) + wings and stuff. Most asura I see/have tried to find, wear boring outfits and I like flashy.
(I want to roll and asura but …the outfits…so bad on them…)
I was going to roll a female norn a year ago for an ele but didn’t, now I forget why….I think it was a light armor issue though? vs heavy armor is nice on norn female? hmm
Human is great but I always roll humans…
Asuran are pretty awesome ani wise, but I’ve never had one with a staff….I’ll have to double check that ani…
edit you sure staff clips asurans ears and ground and such? for rev? didnt seem to in that vid that kodiak posted.
also another thing I just thought of to keep in mind…if youre rolling female like me for norn or human a lot of the sound effects dont mesh so well (mallyx deep voice for instance lol when switching)
It’ll be here soon™, exciting times!
I love my Revenant and need to kill zhaitan again and catch up with the story and get it to level 80 before HoT story Dx I need my Revvy
its too buggy and randomly doesn’t hit things when small terrain affects it.