Guild Wars 2

So I’m the type that rolls almost all human females for my 9 lvl 80s. This class though has a jedi feel to it (the shiro anyway which is what my plan is) so its making me want to roll Asuran…. anyone else?

Having difficulty coming up with a proper tyrian asuran-jedi theme though. Especially since Revs wear heavy armor and jedi are in light robes

How do you know its a pug vs a premade? Are you asking them? Seriously, curious.

Stilgar.6437:

daaaaaamnnm respect for trying though. just roll an ele to break the streak

Just got nerfed. I think its ranger that is FOTM now?

They can’t make everyone happy because everyone over values their skills and over values their class therefore if they lose the class that beat them must be OP.

Forums will always be a place full of whine.

I think the best and easiest thing would be to buff zerker builds, especially of those classes who have TERRIBLE zerker builds (engis, eles, wars and rangers to a lesser degree.)

(note buffing zerker doesnt mean increasing dmg per se, most of those classes have other probs that force them into bunker/cele builds)

Oh ok that is really good to hear then!

You are doing something wrong.

For exp your focus should be hearts, and events not mobs (this is not a grinding game.)

Try PvP or WvW as well.

Also as you probably know exploring and crafting give experience as well (almost everything does.) So…do other things, most importanly try those other zones people mentioned. Google a map and see where you can fight.

How long it’s going to take to complete your masteries. Is it a long term goal (3+ months) or something that will be completed in the first weeks of intense playing?

Yeah, I get that exp bonuses can differ, but there’s gotta be an estimate. Or have they not released any info for total time? Any guesses if so?

How about-
*drop the CDs to your attunement time-
—on summon (max of one out at a time) put the three attunements you arent using on CD as well as the conjure. In other words youre in fire, you summon icebow icebow goes on CD for 10sec as well as water earth and air.

*Gain an affect on cast depending on summon (Icebow heals you, earth stab, fire might, etc)

*Cause damage on summoned spot (could also do condi dmg)

Makes them more powerful while giving the drawback of having 5-10 skills for ~10 sec while still keeping them very similar to what they are.

Please tell me the Phantom Hood is finally coming back in gem store?

Yep what the first reply/selver said – visually they are fine. They lack in epic/emotion/feeling. Their writing sucks.

Rogue Potato.4723:

I really like how there are still a million bugs with the Ranger class from the last balance patch and they’re gonna do another balance patch tomorrow.

different folks work on those/separate issues/priorities

Now that Icebow 4 is getting nerfed none are OP which means except for niche situations or niche builds they are never going to be taken. (why would you ever want to replace 20 skills with 5?)

What if we made them more like engi kits? No cd, with a max of 1 out (on the ground for another person to use) at a time? Would that be more useful? Too OP?

Since no weapon individual skills are OP anymore (or will be in a few hours of this post) I can’t imagine it being OP to be able to have 100% uptime on a conjure unless I’m not thinking of something. Better question is, would it make them worth taking?

Yes – we’d gain a little bit more mobility/uptime with FGS. However, keep in mind rebound should actually be worth taking when HoT comes out. So we would actually have competition (mobility vs a team wide save/invuln ability.)

Its the only thing I can think of without a complete overhaul (No cd, max of one out). Anyone else have any ideas?

Xillllix.3485:

I feel like Tempest is built on “unsteady grounds”…

It has a lot of skill contradictions (support without cc, melee without stability, leaps or block, close range reflect auras?), trait overlaps (auras/earth lines), thematic leaps (no storms, elite?), lacks synergy with other trait lines (damage modifiers?) and weapons (staff? scepter?), awkward mechanics (no dodge or swapping attunement?).

It is not doomed but it really needs to be refocused. I think it should be more simple and effective.

This 1000×. It looks like they took a bunch of random ideas/skills/what have you and threw them together without any thought for a cohesive purpose.

PS they are FINALLY talking to us (see the dev posts) and listening a bit to our feedback so we’ll see how much changes by next beta. Might still be saved by release.

Locuz.2651:

Just curious if anyone from Anet has an answer to this:

The last match i played today….where these players really even remotely close to my MMR? We won a game that was for a big part 4v5. Solod 3 of them at one point. Couple of them probably didnt even know its possible to dodge in this game.

A staff ele teammate of mine stood on a ledge in the middle at Khylo and tanked a warrior untill he died. I peeled and healed from below the ledge. He just stood there and turreted damage on to the middle untill he died.

bots?

IF I play HoT (still unsure at this point..) I will probably play a revenant after 3 years of maining ele. Good class but no changes and a spec that is the same but worse….ya…nothx. Even woodenpotatoes basically said he’s probably changing and he is the biggest ele fanboy.

Just LOL at this crap. ANet has no idea of balance. Thank goodness we started with relatively good balance.* But it never really gets better or worse anymore. They always go in the wrong direction, correct it, but then take two steps back again.

*if you don’t think gw2 is overall pretty good balance (balance =/= build variety) then you never played EQ or WoW or SWTOR at the start with some serious messed up game breaking stuff. Like few people would remember but there was an item for a short while that gave shamans (was a quest item, horde only) near perma invuln in pvp…

Evan Lesh.3295:

I
…In reality, the bug caused the highest rated player between the two teams to usually be teamed with mostly lower skilled players. For matches with high skill spread, this could result in one player feeling like they were matched with a surprisingly low-skilled team….

I KNEW IT

I couldn’t have put it into words or nail it down like that but yea. That’s what I’ve been feeling.

…hopefully I’m in the higher tier MMR and not the low end xD

you realize exotic gear is fine right? Like you don’t need ascended, especially armor. You won’t even notice the difference in asc armor (weapon maybe, trinkets maybe but its such a small %)

If you feel underpowered with exo then ya…

AVG is HORRIBLE now. It used to be great, a long time ago. Don’t use it anymore. Window’s defender is actually more than adequate these days (again this didn’t use to be the case.)

uh wouldn’t thief sword-dagger fit perfectly?

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Thief_-_Sword/Dagger

Vayne.8563:

Actually, who I am is who I am. That’s whether I’m playing a game, or working, or on the forums. What you see is what you get. That’s it. Me.

I don’t cheat at cards, and that’s just a game. Just because something’s a game doesn’t mean I have to change my behavior.

If you think it’s okay, that’s your call. It’s not okay for me.

NFW you’re a ranger IRL? How I become an elementalist for reals?

It’s a community yes. But it’s a community based in fantasy with no consequence. If people are having so much emotion tied up in the game that is a separate problem and not a cause for the argument that good or evil (or the lesser versions if you don’t believe in absolutes) can exist in a video game. (Before you say it, it could exist in real life and have influence in a game but that is getting too deep for this discussion.)

And people take my argument wrong. Despite the fact I believe my action in game has no real consequence that doesn’t mean I have to be a kitten.* I never said I was acting the same way in this event either (as OP), in fact I am just not doing it. But if other’s want too, they shouldn’t be called selfish in a video game, not seriously anyway.

*Just like an atheist can have morals and be nice even though he or she may not believe in a a heaven or hell…

Scientia.8924:

Lol somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed today

Was just something that had been building for awhile and I keep seeing. I dislike the excuse of people thinking they are being good human beings because they are playing a video game…

Sorry Vayne shouldn’t have directed so much of it at you as for all I know you do volunteer a lot.

Vayne.8563:

I get 10 stacks and stay around to help finish events for other people. I still rez. I’ll get what I want at the end of 4 days and you know, if I don’t get that stuff, my life will somehow continue.

Rewards in a game? The stakes are too low to change who I am for that.

I hate that attitude. It’s a GAME. Helping people does not equal altruism in real life. If you want to help the world get off your sanctimonious attitude and go help the world in real life. Helping people in game does not make you a good person. Just like PvPing does not make you a murderer.

You’re spending your time on entertainment like the rest of us. Roleplaying a good character does not actually make you a good human being. That’s just a hilarious notion.

cmon guys why feed the troll? It’s an account with just this as its sole post. Clearly one of kidel or the like’s troll alt accounts.

gereden.6983:

haha that made me giggle yes its our support weapon but its also our hardest hitting weapon with massive aoe dmg, its as close as a ranged nuker your gunna get on ele without the numbers being insanee :P

Staff is only a nuker in PvE where mobs stay standing in the fields (laval font mostly.) In PvP players aren’t stupid and walk out. Staff is used for the healing and CC not damage.

Yeah those were bad opponents. That first fight was pretty laughable. That poor warrior could barely even get his skills lined up to hit you.

After the montage of you chasing down other people’s kills I stopped watching.

0/10 for music bleh.

Interesting thought about the build though, I don’t think it’d work in ranked but I’ll give it a try in the future.

That is 100% opinion. I am the opposite. I hate stupid events that force me to use items or put out fires. This BWE2 is far more to my style of play.

I’m glad they’re gone (very very glad)

Could care less if they come back as a skin (would never use them)

tempest hasn’t really changed as far as I can tell it still stinks.

Can someone explain what the heck the mail carrier does? We can already receive mail anywhere right?

I think the fastest way for a new player to get a full set of ascended would be to farm fractals 41+ as boxes have a decent chance of dropping then change stats at forge.

As to the guy above saying f2p wouldnt know or care – back when I played a lot of f2p MMOs in my younger days when I was trying a game I researched the top tier of gear and made sure I could get it in principle (as a f2p) otherwise I don’t play the game. So I think you are completely wrong.

Rain.9213:

It does push group support a bit more though. Ele already has practically everything, that’s why you can’t expect anything new. They have amazing close range dps, mid range with scepter, and long range with staff. They have invulns, condi clear, conditions, boons.

What more can you expect? Stealth? That would just be silly.

By that definition all classes have everything… Engi has all that + stealth, warrior has all that, mesmer has all that and stealth…. (except maybe thief missing viable range single target dps thief is prob the most specialized gw2 class) etc

This is gw2, classes are meant to have builds and lots of options. Ele doesn’t somehow have more than anyone else. They just have a popular cele build in pvp. That has nothing to do with having more than anyone else though.

I have serious doubts to the uh motivations behind OPs point. I seriously doubt he cares about the plight of the f2p. More likely he figured out a way to make gold with free accounts (if you view his history he has a lot of posts about it) and needs a way to chat in map for it to work…

challenging open world content – try soloing champs then come back and tell me its too easy lol

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

I’m pretty sure that even most of the Elementalist community agrees….

Naw. I don’t think it needs a nerf and I’d say most in the real pvp community don’t. It’s mostly forum warriors that seem to think so – if you actually go play PvP I rarely hear people complain of OP eles. Moreso its these official forums that you get all this OP calls and hate mongering. I don’t see as much ele hate on reddit for instance.

Cele D/D is fine. I’ve seen warriors and necros with far far more keyboard facerolling combos and mesmers (with skill) that just destroy with no chance to fight back.

PS and if you really think the devs are gonna listen to a thread like this……….you realize there have been 1,000s of these threads on ALL classes? If they listened to these x class is OP thread we’d all be playing kittens with mittens.

Just realized I had gotten an email yesterday from Anet asking me to take a survey.

Almost missed it, thought I’d throw this reminder out.

Be sure to give your feedback and suggestions in those! Bet they read them a lot more than they read these forums.

Zention.1849:

There are always some people around who aren’t open for different play styles. I think that’s one of the things you have to cope with when playing in pugs.
Just laugh it away.

Greets

I did in fact find it funny.

Laraley.7695:

I was referring to the part that he was complaining you weren’t running one. And I’m telling you that no matter what people think of some builds they’re still happier to see them on their teams, since it’s best to play. How is that not relevant?

I wrote that before I saw your post. Don’t assume I’m talking to you because of post order. I didn’t reference your name at all. Was talking to the guy who thought I was complaining about any sort of balance.

This was just a huh that’s pretty funny. This is the ele forum, not a balance forum. Can have other posts about eles -_-

wat. I’m well aware of meta.

this post is nothing to do with that.

Just referencing how people rip on eles no matter what we do lol.

He blamed the ele on the enemy team for playing d-d while simultaneously blaming me for NOT playing it. They want us to play d-d or not? lol kitten ed if we do kitten ed if we don’t

Funny incident I just had to share that sums up my frustrations…

I go staff for something different. Because D/D all the time gets boring.

We’re losing, some one on my team starts complaining, berating the enemy team’s “OP” “no skill” “braindead” D/D ele, and then in the next breath complains I am NOT playing one.

-_-

Tongku.5326:

Just a quick screenshot from tequatl a couple days ago on my burn engi. Keep in mind on teq i’m downscaled, not at max level, so this would be a lot more. i get some unreal numbers in silverwastes on the final even bosses.

That’s not burn but the total damage since you started channeling your auto attack.

My goodness the saltyness here. And taking away from the win. Shame on you people.

Maybe it was player skill? You guys see toker? Sheesh.

Not to mention the other team ran two guards and beat everyone else up to that point…so guards also need to be nerfed by that logic? Do we nerf the popular class that wins the tournament every time? Should we nerf the class that scored the most points? LOL you guys are priceless. Had 2 eles so eles must be OP…k… (whether they are or aren’t shouldn’t have entered into a grats thread)

Honestly might still not be worth using except for escape with cries of OP OP!

Why not (with the whole aura theme) just add the auras to em…

shocking for air, frost water, magnetic earth, fire for fire? Could still be attacked but it be a bit more of a detriment and synergize with tempest a lot better with aura sharing.

No front line is front. Mid is mid. Back is back. Has nothing to do with class. They are terms used to describe where you should be in a big fight.

So when a dev says front line I imagine front line and expect such. I don’t come up with some hybrid mid liner that supports the front.

Hey I feel you about not having a spec………guess what? Eles in same boat. Thieves don’t have a good bunker spec eles dont have a good zerk spec….so is that any reason to only nerf ele……?

We all want better balance.

Jski.6180:

When a ppl complains about dmg being lower on a support spec then the base is outright saying they want the spec to be stronger then the old. I am just saying there got to be limitation on all spec to not be greater then the base spec.

Not neccessarily as there are no hard roles and everyone is supposed to (yea I know some can better than others) be able to DPS….so perhaps the dps is undertuned? That will be up to the devs. Don’t think that because some players complain on the forum the devs will blinding increase damage numbers.

Jski.6180:

I get that i am just trying to point out that a lot of ppl want elite spec to be stronger then there stander (in how they respond to the support elite spec we are getting). It would be nice to see a all in dmg elite spec for ele but your going to need to lose def or support effect or both.

Who does? Who has outright said they want a stronger spec? People just want something 1. worth taking 2. different than what we have

Jski.6180:

Front line nature seems to be the caster is the center of the effect so like gurd empower its not really a ranged spell so its more of a melee spell. So tempest melee support is that most of its “tempest only” ability are center on the tempest it self meaning they need to be near or on-top of the melee to get full benefit. So ideal this is with things like the tempest shouts boon shair and wh braking stun effect even the overloeds need to be near your team some what to get some effect from them for your team.

So for ele or tempest being in “melee” ranges is a bit different then a war or gurd being in melee ranges most of the ability are on 300 ish or longer ranges letting the ele/tempest sit back a bit and have effects that other classes like war who needs to be more at 150 ranges to land the effects. Tempest dose have the abitly to sit at 300 ranges to and hit ppl with effects with out needing to be full dive in even d/d stander ele should never comply dive into a ball of players ele still a mages at the end of the day lol.

That was hard to read. Um so yeah, we both agree they are supposed to be front line?

Front line is front line, youre splitting hairs here. D/D isn’t front line either (or I should say can’t be played that way). Did you see the video? He had to play far back quite a bit. Not at all front line. I don’t know why you are defending it so much.

Jski.6180:

And your argument that healing support is a thing in GW2? Boon support is the main type of support in GW2 not healing there a reason why tempest cant heal as if its a stander mmorpgs healing support becuse it simply dose not fit the game. If your aim was to support as an ele losing a line to get 4 more ability though overloading and the abitly to get a wepon whoms main use is support and to get a set of skill that are nearly pure support it is worth it. If your a DMG or mid of the rode ele then going tempest is not the best chose for you becuse its a SUPPORT specialization at the lost of most of the time dmg.

Sorry to butt in on the convo – I’m fine with support but where’s the front line nature? Not seeing any (or nearly any) tools to make it such. You need a lot of blocks/invulns/aegis/leaps/stab/etc. to be frontline material. Not seeing much of any of that on tempest…