…with the Living Story, it’s clear they completely abandoned most of their core principles.
I think what you have to realise is that they abandonned most of these principles upon launch. Check out the GW2 manifesto vid, my fave quote from that is in my sig.
Funniest thing about that quote is Colin left Anet because of what we’er complaining about, GRIND.
Unless its just happened Colin is still at anet I thought. It would be really great to see how the devs would reconcile articles like this with the game they have now which is clearly completely at odds with those initial ideals.
Why do you think theres not ONE comment from ANet on this whole topic while they make crapton of worthless posts otherwise.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
The type of game you make will reflect in you playerbase.
If you dont want sheep, dont make game for sheep.
OTOH, if you play game for sheep, what does that make you?
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
I do not expect ANet to listen, or react on the fact that I’m logged in or not. I am just one in a game of very many. I do not want to make a statement in game. Honestly, I don’t care too much, and if I find something more entertaining, I will stop caring at all anyways.
I just felt like people in this thread had a funtamentally wrong idea of how this kind of business works, so I felt intrigued to share my 2c… ^^
Well, youre making a statement whether you like it or not, and when you get more living story AND more intrusive cash shop (probably 2 things you DONT want) im sure there will be some Vayne or Galen Gray (or w/e) to tell you thats EXACTLY what you asked for since their metrics showed so
Yes, you will be /facepalming all over, but thats how things work around here heh
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
saying you did something 100 times doesnt magically make it true. Not only didnt you do it 100s of times like you’re saying but you never bothered explaining how we’re wrong once. Of course like you I could be just making stuff up without providing any bases. So for my last post to you on this matter I will leave this conviniant link where people who might be interested can go check your history and see if its really true that you explain this 100s of times and me and others are just so bad at math that we cannot grasp the concepts you present or if like I said all you have been doing from day one is telling people they’re bad at math without explaining how even once.
You see, its just confirmation that doing it 101st time would have same effect as first 100 ROFL
and why responding to you is such a waste of time.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
They should make an expansion’s worth an expansion (like what people would expect). Than they can have my money.
If they offer it for free as part of the LS, even better. Than I will just keep my money.
Well, you now know way to actually act in a way that will not send wrong message and in a way they understand.
It was actually confirmed (for anyone that didnt understand by that point) in a post by dev in www section, that was of course removed.
Unfortunately, just stating that youre unhappy will have exactly 0 effect and thats the bottom line. If you continue to play you actually send wrong message, even if you believe in what you are doing.
First thing in communication is to communicate in a way they understand.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Ive done it 100 times already. Should i be stupid enough to think that doing it 101st would make any difference rofl.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Again, people who dont kow basic math operations/understand GW2 stat system try to argue numberz.
Its hilarious. I bet ANet devs have same good time with it as i do.
Well you’ve wasted 164 bytes + headers of storage space without adding anything to the discussion. How’s that for basic math? But wait, the board might actually support unicode in which case the wasted amount goes up to 328 bytes + headers.
whats hilarious is your insistence on personal attacks without proving any support what so over for your arguments. I dont know what you’re expecting to happen. Do you think anyone is going to change their minds on anything just because you claim people dont know basic maths? Do you think you’re going to destroy my or anyone elses reputation because people are going to believe what we say is bogus just cause you say so? Seriously what are you trying to achieve? some out lash by one of your victims so you can report them and have them infracted? what exactly?
Umadbro?
Its a shame people dont know basic math operations that are learned in 1st grade.
And even continue to argue about it.
An intelligent person would finally go and look it up and stop spouting nonsense, but nooooooo
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Yep ANET/Ncsoft are just milking off what’s left of the cow right now
How do you milk a free cow? There is no revenue stream to milk once someone has bought it and I guarantee sales aren’t compensating for a lack of a subscription model. It’s all gravy for the user at that point. I wish every game I paid the same for (or even more) gave me that kind of service.
Let’s see; 28,899 million KrW 2nd quarter. Now last I knew Lineage was 64,000 KrW a quarter which would suggest that GW2 would be equivalent to 450,000 Lineage 1 subscribers in Korea who are on the 3 month plan. I think our sales are just fine.
But how much was GW2 quarter before? And after?
How much was L1 quarter before? And after?
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Honestly speaking “Everything you loved about Guildwars”…..isn’t in Guildwars 2..
If you enjoyed WoW or time gated tread mill clones like WoW you probably will be ok in Guildwars 2.
This.
Except WoW and most F2P WoW clones do it much better.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
If you don’t see the difference between quality-of-life changes and a grand strategy for a game that struggels to seperate itself from all others, you are delusional.
ANet is running a fair risk with the LS, they wouldn’t adapt it if it wasn’t directly related to lower sales.
You finally relized its pointless to discuss when someone cant discern even simplest of concept and ideas.
I have to admit it is hard.
Look, people like me just don’t buy stuff anymore. We are above that “get it now or it will be gone” attitude.
I am not alone, at least that’s my impression. The game is financed mostly by the in-game store at this time. Actually, I am hurting ANet by playing their game without buying stuff (they have to pay their bills anyway).
Whatever, with the LS going on like this, I will not buy anything in the near future. I have more fluff than my bank can hold anyway. What is the point of spending money?
By playing and not paying you actually send completely different message – you like the game but dont find interest n cash shop, not really resulting in desired effect.
The ONLY way to get your message across is to stop logging in, otherwise only thing you will get is more intrusive cash shop.
No, by using their bandwidth and causing costs, while not buying stuff off the store and not playing the LS, I’m just fine for now. Will the game go anywhere this way? No. But I keep my money and all options for the future. I AM a potential costumer, waiting to spend money, I AM potential.
That is where ANet has to rethink it’s strategy (make an expansion hinthint)…
You are a potentional customer, you log in regualrly but dont spend money in cash shop.
How do we remedy that? Your own post is an answer to that. More intrusive cash shop. Because how they do metrics, game is fine and cash shop is not “attractive” enough.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Again, people who dont kow basic math operations/understand GW2 stat system try to argue numberz.
Its hilarious. I bet ANet devs have same good time with it as i do.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
If you don’t see the difference between quality-of-life changes and a grand strategy for a game that struggels to seperate itself from all others, you are delusional.
ANet is running a fair risk with the LS, they wouldn’t adapt it if it wasn’t directly related to lower sales.
You finally relized its pointless to discuss when someone cant discern even simplest of concept and ideas.
I have to admit it is hard.
Look, people like me just don’t buy stuff anymore. We are above that “get it now or it will be gone” attitude.
I am not alone, at least that’s my impression. The game is financed mostly by the in-game store at this time. Actually, I am hurting ANet by playing their game without buying stuff (they have to pay their bills anyway).
Whatever, with the LS going on like this, I will not buy anything in the near future. I have more fluff than my bank can hold anyway. What is the point of spending money?
By playing and not paying you actually send completely different message – you like the game but dont find interest n cash shop, not really resulting in desired effect.
The ONLY way to get your message across is to stop logging in, otherwise only thing you will get is more intrusive cash shop.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
ANet is running a fair risk with the LS, they wouldn’t adapt it if it wasn’t directly related to lower sales.
I pains me to say this, but I hope it blows up in their face. If the quality of content we’re getting in the Living Story is the future of this game, I’d rather fail spectacularly. I’m hoping the players will send ArenaNet the clear message that quality, not quantity, is what matters when it comes to content. But as of now I don’t think enough players share my opinion on the Living Story. So I have to bide my time and hope that enough players jump ship to the AAA MMOs on the docket for next year so that change can be effected.
Wow, I used to like you.
So you’re saying you hope those happy with the game get screwed, because you don’t like it. That’s rough.
The programmers should be unemployeed and have to find new jobs, because you don’t like it.
That’s just wrong on so many levels.
Blizzard
Turbine
Mythic
Bioware
Trion
Funcom
ALL had big layoffs, and guess what….they all “knew” what they were doing and were acting same way as ANet
And yes, lot of unemployed people because “I/we” didnt like the game.
But in a way its hilarious to watch speed at which developers learn. Its kinda watching paint dry, and you throw a look every few years and see its not even close to dry yet rofl
I still remember James Ohlen presenting “MMO gaming theories” on which SWTOR was based (and all failed MMOs). Yup. I can only say “are they THAT dumb?”. And guess what: SWTOR had quite a few “veteran MMO developers” working on SWTOR.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
If you don’t see the difference between quality-of-life changes and a grand strategy for a game that struggels to seperate itself from all others, you are delusional.
ANet is running a fair risk with the LS, they wouldn’t adapt it if it wasn’t directly related to lower sales.
You finally relized its pointless to discuss when someone cant discern even simplest of concept and ideas.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
You can’t judge the entire game by a doing of someone. Sure, this is ugly but it’s not even a fraction of the entire things under GW2.
OP can even ignore this when deciding whether to play or not TBH…
OR he will not ignore it. Who are you to say what should and should not be ignored?
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
I love it how you are able to pull out the most important arguments. On that point: when does the manifesto discussion start in this thread?
What’s a manifesto? lol
Its something that made them fastest selling MMO in history*(in first 9 months)
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
The fact of the matter is that you have to pay in order to access either of the mentioned games to its fullest. In LOTRO you can play without spending any money at all, but will miss out on some significant portion of the game without spending money (or spending large amounts of time grinding). In GW2 you cannot play any of the content, including that added content you describe as being accessible without spending money, without dropping some cash on the game. In LOTRO you have the option, if you have more time than money, to get pretty much everything without spending money.
That’s very correct and sensibly put.
I still fail to see where the whole F2P – B2P discussion is going though. They are two different models. One is not necessarily better than the other.
No, you dotnt need “some kind of education” you need specific kind of education.
Sigh… ¬¬
Yes, sigh….
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
You REALLY ask whats wrong with that? like REALLY?
I encourage you to do some research to see whats wrong with that. Its quite nicely documented.
Goodness you are without a doubt the most annoying person I’ve seen on this forum to date.
You were asked a question, if you wanted to make an impression you could have answered it. Going “I know what it is, but I won’t tell you nya nya” makes you look very childish.
…well even more so.
If i wanted to teach i would teach at school or uni.
Since i dont want to i wont do it on random forum either.
Never mind the fact that you need some form of education for that.
At the very least I’m glad we’ve cleared up your contribution to this random forum.
No, you dotnt need “some kind of education” you need specific kind of education.
Yes, aint internet a blast. For those who want to learn…and i guess for those who dont want as they can have verbal diarrhea in public, such as “whats wrong with blinders?”.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Turbines greed, rofl What would you call GW2 then when you need to pay $$ just to have 1 cosmetic item transmuted ONCE FOR 1 CHARACTER. ON A B2P GAME rofl
If you call Turbine greedy, ANet is over 9000 greedy. FACT
Now you are completely wrong here. Turbine IS one of the greediest MMO, that’s a simple FACT. Also, Anet is not greedy, for your information, you can get those transmutation stones as drops, from map completion and you can easily buy them with gold, you also get gem rewards from Achievement chests, so even if you don’t get them as drop you can still get them completely free…
Last I checked Anet doesn’t prevent me from entering ANY of the zones in the game like Turbine does, I have to buy a specific expansion to enter an expansion zone don’t I? And those expansions are way more costly than anything in Guild Wars 2 and they prevent players from playing with their friends. How much did I HAVE to pay over the last 1 year to access all of the content in the game? ZERO.
Check out how much you have to pay to play a “free” game before making uninformed comments. They even have… potions in their store.
Get your facts straight before posting again, comparing Anet and Turbine is terms of “greed” is laughable.
oooh, yet another one that talks out of his kitten
Man, i enjoy these kind of MISSINFORMED POSTS.
You related to Vayne?
YOU CAN PLAY EVERYTHING IN LOTRO COMPLETELY FREE IF YOU WISH. THATS A FACT.
TURBINE DOESNT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING ANY ZONES. YOU CAN CREAT ACCOUNT TODAY AND WALK FROM BREELAND TO ROHAN WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATIONS (provided you dont et pwned by higher level mobs, which you will be)
OMG…THEY HAVE…wait for it….POTIONS IN THEIR STORE!
You CAN BUY EXPANSIONS IN LOTRO WITH TP. YOU CAN EARN TP BY PLAYING THE GAME.
AND THEY STILL DONT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING EXPANSION ZONES EVEN IF YOU DONT GET EXPANSIONS (IN ANY WAY YOU WANT)
Yup, once you start not being so SHALLOW, you may have a valid point.
Typing in uppercase letter does not realy make you more … what’s the word… People won’t listen to what you have to say just becouse you write in uppercase letters, actually people tend to see it as immature or like you are loosing it.
As a former Lotro fanboi with a Lifetime account I can say that it is not all roses with their “wonderfull” TP-system, there is realy realy much that you don’t need in Lotro but is realy realy usefull to have like Zones and more, if you wan’t a new expansion from only TP you realy have to iether farm Deeds (Achievements) or save TP from your monthly 500 you get for subscribing (Lifetime sub isn’t availeble to get anymore).
I am not gonna say more about that game becouse it doesn’t feel right to bring it up in this forum.
Yeah, i should try uppercase, color, bold, because they still dont get it.
Yes, you have to grind TP. But its a FACT you dont have to pay a dime.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Turbines greed, rofl What would you call GW2 then when you need to pay $$ just to have 1 cosmetic item transmuted ONCE FOR 1 CHARACTER. ON A B2P GAME rofl
If you call Turbine greedy, ANet is over 9000 greedy. FACT
Now you are completely wrong here. Turbine IS one of the greediest MMO, that’s a simple FACT. Also, Anet is not greedy, for your information, you can get those transmutation stones as drops, from map completion and you can easily buy them with gold, you also get gem rewards from Achievement chests, so even if you don’t get them as drop you can still get them completely free…
Last I checked Anet doesn’t prevent me from entering ANY of the zones in the game like Turbine does, I have to buy a specific expansion to enter an expansion zone don’t I? And those expansions are way more costly than anything in Guild Wars 2 and they prevent players from playing with their friends. How much did I HAVE to pay over the last 1 year to access all of the content in the game? ZERO.
Check out how much you have to pay to play a “free” game before making uninformed comments. They even have… potions in their store.
Get your facts straight before posting again, comparing Anet and Turbine is terms of “greed” is laughable.
oooh, yet another one that talks out of his kitten
Man, i enjoy these kind of MISSINFORMED POSTS.
You related to Vayne?
YOU CAN PLAY EVERYTHING IN LOTRO COMPLETELY FREE IF YOU WISH. THATS A FACT.
TURBINE DOESNT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING ANY ZONES. YOU CAN CREAT ACCOUNT TODAY AND WALK FROM BREELAND TO ROHAN WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATIONS (provided you dont et pwned by higher level mobs, which you will be)
OMG…THEY HAVE…wait for it….POTIONS IN THEIR STORE!
You CAN BUY EXPANSIONS IN LOTRO WITH TP. YOU CAN EARN TP BY PLAYING THE GAME.
AND THEY STILL DONT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING EXPANSION ZONES EVEN IF YOU DONT GET EXPANSIONS (IN ANY WAY YOU WANT)
Yup, once you start not being so SHALLOW, you may have a valid point.
It prevents me from making new classes? Access the new quests? Do the new raids? NO, that’s a fact don’t try to make it look better than it is using caps. In fact in order to play Lotro now (a free game) you will have to pay more than if you want to play Guild Wars 2 (a buy to play game)
Try to look at how lotro works first and then come here posting, educate yourself and form proper arguments. Lotro is greedy end of story.
Uh-huh bor, cool story.
But i see you wont educate yourself and you DO NOT have a valid point and wont have it either.
I played LOTRO with people that never paid a dime and had any class they wanted and raided just fine.
YOU CAN PLAY EVERYTHING IN LOTRO COMPLETELY FREE IF YOU WANT. FACT.
Well that might have happened a very long time ago. I used to play Lotro for quite some time, in fact it’s the MMO, other than GW1, I played the most. Still, after going free to playn Lotro changed completely. Also, I could be wrong but I think you can’t buy the expansion content with Turbine Points, to be up-to-date with the game you need a payment of 80$ (including the latest -upcoming- expansion), that’s more than you pay for a new game. In reality, the game is “buy to play” not free nowadays.
OMG, this is getting really funny.
YOU CAN BUY EXPANSIONS WITH TP.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Turbines greed, rofl What would you call GW2 then when you need to pay $$ just to have 1 cosmetic item transmuted ONCE FOR 1 CHARACTER. ON A B2P GAME rofl
If you call Turbine greedy, ANet is over 9000 greedy. FACT
Now you are completely wrong here. Turbine IS one of the greediest MMO, that’s a simple FACT. Also, Anet is not greedy, for your information, you can get those transmutation stones as drops, from map completion and you can easily buy them with gold, you also get gem rewards from Achievement chests, so even if you don’t get them as drop you can still get them completely free…
Last I checked Anet doesn’t prevent me from entering ANY of the zones in the game like Turbine does, I have to buy a specific expansion to enter an expansion zone don’t I? And those expansions are way more costly than anything in Guild Wars 2 and they prevent players from playing with their friends. How much did I HAVE to pay over the last 1 year to access all of the content in the game? ZERO.
Check out how much you have to pay to play a “free” game before making uninformed comments. They even have… potions in their store.
Get your facts straight before posting again, comparing Anet and Turbine is terms of “greed” is laughable.
oooh, yet another one that talks out of his kitten
Man, i enjoy these kind of MISSINFORMED POSTS.
You related to Vayne?
YOU CAN PLAY EVERYTHING IN LOTRO COMPLETELY FREE IF YOU WISH. THATS A FACT.
TURBINE DOESNT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING ANY ZONES. YOU CAN CREAT ACCOUNT TODAY AND WALK FROM BREELAND TO ROHAN WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATIONS (provided you dont et pwned by higher level mobs, which you will be)
OMG…THEY HAVE…wait for it….POTIONS IN THEIR STORE!
You CAN BUY EXPANSIONS IN LOTRO WITH TP. YOU CAN EARN TP BY PLAYING THE GAME.
AND THEY STILL DONT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING EXPANSION ZONES EVEN IF YOU DONT GET EXPANSIONS (IN ANY WAY YOU WANT)
Yup, once you start not being so SHALLOW, you may have a valid point.
It prevents me from making new classes? Access the new quests? Do the new raids? NO, that’s a fact don’t try to make it look better than it is using caps. In fact in order to play Lotro now (a free game) you will have to pay more than if you want to play Guild Wars 2 (a buy to play game)
Try to look at how lotro works first and then come here posting, educate yourself and form proper arguments. Lotro is greedy end of story.
Uh-huh bor, cool story.
But i see you wont educate yourself and you DO NOT have a valid point and wont have it either.
I played LOTRO with people that never paid a dime and had any class they wanted and raided just fine.
YOU CAN PLAY EVERYTHING IN LOTRO COMPLETELY FREE IF YOU WANT. FACT.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
You REALLY ask whats wrong with that? like REALLY?
I encourage you to do some research to see whats wrong with that. Its quite nicely documented.
Goodness you are without a doubt the most annoying person I’ve seen on this forum to date.
You were asked a question, if you wanted to make an impression you could have answered it. Going “I know what it is, but I won’t tell you nya nya” makes you look very childish.
…well even more so.
If i wanted to teach i would teach at school or uni.
Since i dont want to i wont do it on random forum either.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Turbines greed, rofl What would you call GW2 then when you need to pay $$ just to have 1 cosmetic item transmuted ONCE FOR 1 CHARACTER. ON A B2P GAME rofl
If you call Turbine greedy, ANet is over 9000 greedy. FACT
Now you are completely wrong here. Turbine IS one of the greediest MMO, that’s a simple FACT. Also, Anet is not greedy, for your information, you can get those transmutation stones as drops, from map completion and you can easily buy them with gold, you also get gem rewards from Achievement chests, so even if you don’t get them as drop you can still get them completely free…
Last I checked Anet doesn’t prevent me from entering ANY of the zones in the game like Turbine does, I have to buy a specific expansion to enter an expansion zone don’t I? And those expansions are way more costly than anything in Guild Wars 2 and they prevent players from playing with their friends. How much did I HAVE to pay over the last 1 year to access all of the content in the game? ZERO.
Check out how much you have to pay to play a “free” game before making uninformed comments. They even have… potions in their store.
Get your facts straight before posting again, comparing Anet and Turbine is terms of “greed” is laughable.
oooh, yet another one that talks out of his kitten
Man, i enjoy these kind of MISSINFORMED POSTS.
You related to Vayne?
YOU CAN PLAY EVERYTHING IN LOTRO COMPLETELY FREE IF YOU WISH. THATS A FACT.
TURBINE DOESNT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING ANY ZONES. YOU CAN CREAT ACCOUNT TODAY AND WALK FROM BREELAND TO ROHAN WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATIONS (provided you dont et pwned by higher level mobs, which you will be)
OMG…THEY HAVE…wait for it….POTIONS IN THEIR STORE!
You CAN BUY EXPANSIONS IN LOTRO WITH TP. YOU CAN EARN TP BY PLAYING THE GAME.
AND THEY STILL DONT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING EXPANSION ZONES EVEN IF YOU DONT GET EXPANSIONS (IN ANY WAY YOU WANT)
Yup, once you start not being so SHALLOW, you may have a valid point.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
You REALLY ask whats wrong with that? like REALLY?
I encourage you to do some research to see whats wrong with that. Its quite nicely documented.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Played guild wars obsessively for 4 years straight, was amazing at it and loved it. Them a friend swayed me toward wow. Found it a bit more versatile and it was fun to try something new, so that eventually won me over.
When guild wars 2 came out I was SO excited, but I only played for about 2 weeks before quitting. It was nothing like the old game is known and loved, and I was already built up in wow.
So now I’d like to start guild wars 2 again, but I’m debating whether it’s even worth it. Is there even a large community anymore? I’m on gate of madness at the moment and I feel so lonely even though it’s a high population server. Is there end game content that makes it worth starting the game?
It’s hard to get the motivation to start, because I have no clue what I’m doing and I don’t know ANYONE who plays anymore.
I was frustrated because I got so good at this game and invested so much time, and then they just rip it away and throw us into a new game that we have to learn all over again….
Anyone have any advice?
No one can answer that but you. It’s a free game (well, set aside the $60) – you may want to try and see it personally.
PS:
Feeling lonely on GoM? Don’t ever ever try going to BP. BP makes GW2 feel like Skyrim.
But but but…Vayne said theres horde of people, everywhere, anytime, pushing all maps into overflow at all times!
Maybe on where he is or in his timezone. lol
But mine? Good as dead on weekdays.
Depends on your server. All the t1 servers are stacked like stupid because of WvW.
So Vayne was wrong?
Oh my!
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
The problem is, if they want to make content that is essential for lore, it would have to be permanent.
The LS arcs are not meant to be that kind of story.
Let’s just say that the aetherblades are related to the awakening of a new elder dragon in TA. We would have at least some events left over (invasions, TA p4) so people would have context to the main story. Nontheless, it would be bad, as the villain was introduced in a LS that is over, so people new to the story would grief that they missed it.
Why would you do that to your customers.
On the other hand, bringing a plot to a final conclusion by showing the bigger picture at the end works perfectly fine in books. In games it just tells peope at the end of the arc what they’ve missed. I couldn’t think of a better way to kitten off your playerbase.
That is why the story telling in GW2 fails in combination with temporary (one-time) content. That is why ANet is avoiding to make anything happening in the LS relevant to the main story plot, the elder dragons and their defeat. This is why the LS feels boring and meaningless most of the time.
The game is going nowhere with the LS, we can only hope, they decide to do an expansion at some point…
They dont see a difference between a book and a game (no wonder)
Its like reading a book that had half of pages ripped out and then added some more pages that are continuation of those ripped out pages.
Not a very good expereince for the reader, not at all, “defenders” saying that “you can go on net and read a summary of ripped out pages” deosnt help either. Unfortunately they do drag the constructive discussion down.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Played guild wars obsessively for 4 years straight, was amazing at it and loved it. Them a friend swayed me toward wow. Found it a bit more versatile and it was fun to try something new, so that eventually won me over.
When guild wars 2 came out I was SO excited, but I only played for about 2 weeks before quitting. It was nothing like the old game is known and loved, and I was already built up in wow.
So now I’d like to start guild wars 2 again, but I’m debating whether it’s even worth it. Is there even a large community anymore? I’m on gate of madness at the moment and I feel so lonely even though it’s a high population server. Is there end game content that makes it worth starting the game?
It’s hard to get the motivation to start, because I have no clue what I’m doing and I don’t know ANYONE who plays anymore.
I was frustrated because I got so good at this game and invested so much time, and then they just rip it away and throw us into a new game that we have to learn all over again….
Anyone have any advice?
No one can answer that but you. It’s a free game (well, set aside the $60) – you may want to try and see it personally.
PS:
Feeling lonely on GoM? Don’t ever ever try going to BP. BP makes GW2 feel like Skyrim.
But but but…Vayne said theres horde of people, everywhere, anytime, pushing all maps into overflow at all times!
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Sadly, but OP is right. I have a couple friends who did not want to return to the game because of Living Story too. One believes that developers spend excessive surprising number of resources to the content which most of players will not see, so that the game will not be successful. Another believes that there is no point in returning because he is already “missed everything.”
I like the idea of living Story. However, I must admit: it is good as long as you have time on it. Too much emphasis on the things that will disappear in a month. On the other hand, we can see that the most of bugs almost not fixed since the very start of the game, the old content is not completed yet, the most vaunted aspects of the game (personal story, events, etc) as if in beta stage. New players see exactly THIS, rather than “oh, the game is updated every two weeks for the next two weeks, cool!”.
If living Story would released along with major updates and well developed fixes – people’s attitude would be quite different. One of the things that I can not understand. A-net team of nearly 300 people. Around 20-40 working on living Story. SAB is generally even made by four. What are the others doing then?
They are working on expansion, NCSfot said they want expansion and NCSoft is da boss. They will just feed you 2 week (questionable quality) living story and gear grind (reusing launch content) till expansion.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Turbines greed, rofl What would you call GW2 then when you need to pay $$ just to have 1 cosmetic item transmuted ONCE FOR 1 CHARACTER. ON A B2P GAME rofl
If you call Turbine greedy, ANet is over 9000 greedy. FACT
Now you are completely wrong here. Turbine IS one of the greediest MMO, that’s a simple FACT. Also, Anet is not greedy, for your information, you can get those transmutation stones as drops, from map completion and you can easily buy them with gold, you also get gem rewards from Achievement chests, so even if you don’t get them as drop you can still get them completely free…
Last I checked Anet doesn’t prevent me from entering ANY of the zones in the game like Turbine does, I have to buy a specific expansion to enter an expansion zone don’t I? And those expansions are way more costly than anything in Guild Wars 2 and they prevent players from playing with their friends. How much did I HAVE to pay over the last 1 year to access all of the content in the game? ZERO.
Check out how much you have to pay to play a “free” game before making uninformed comments. They even have… potions in their store.
Get your facts straight before posting again, comparing Anet and Turbine is terms of “greed” is laughable.
oooh, yet another one that talks out of his kitten
Man, i enjoy these kind of MISSINFORMED POSTS.
You related to Vayne?
YOU CAN PLAY EVERYTHING IN LOTRO COMPLETELY FREE IF YOU WISH. THATS A FACT.
TURBINE DOESNT PREVENT YOU FROM ENTERING ANY ZONES. YOU CAN CREAT ACCOUNT TODAY AND WALK FROM BREELAND TO ROHAN WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATIONS (provided you dont et pwned by higher level mobs, which you will be)
OMG…THEY HAVE…wait for it….POTIONS IN THEIR STORE!
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
One of the most common complaints about the game is that the cosmetic progression is a bust and I can’t help but wholeheartedly agree with that assessment. The transmutation system needs to be sloped and replaced by a proper wardrobe system in which you unlock skins. My bank is filled with cosmetic items I’ll never get to use due to the sheer hassle of it all and I dare to wager that I’m not alone in that.
I agree. It’s no wonder their “cosmetic progression” failed, making them add vertical progression into the game. GW2 has one of the worst cosmetic systems I have seen in any of my recent mmos. Even F2P games like DCUO and Rift have wardrobe systems that are so much more user friendly.
Yup, LOTRO was first to implemet absolutely perfect cosmetic system couple a YEARS ago. Thats YEARS were talking about.
Thats the thing, ANEt delivered broken/not there horizontal progressin and then rushed gear grind treadmill to the game instead working on delivering what they advertised for 5 years with manifesto.
Now the game is a mish-mash of crap+BS
Yep, Lotro is a great game. Well it was before Turbine took it over. Can you still buy traits in the cash shop?
Ahahahhahahahaah, Turbine developed LOTRO.
Too bad you have 0 facts and relevance.
I have lots of facts, too bad you avoided the question. Can you still buy traits in the cash shop. It’s not a hard question. Surely you know the answer to it.
Yes, Lotro had a very nice cosmetics armor system, (I bought all the wardrobe tabs from the cash shop myself), and Lotro has a lovely way of making you pay three times for the same storage. Pay for your bank storage (which wasn’t account wide), account wide bank storage, and cosmetic item storage seperately.
And you think Anet has strange cash shop practices? Go ahead and refute me.
You dont HAVE to pay for anything of that, you can expand bank starge with gold and its quite cheap, and you GET 20 account storage and 20 wardrobe storage.
And ill actually bother with your strawman: yes you can buy traits, also you can sub for 1 month and unlock everything on all of your characters FOREVER.
LOTRO is truly F2P game, if you want to grind it you can play EVERYTHING AND GET EVERYTHING COMPLETELY FREE.
FAIL again, but what do you expect froma guy that didnt even know Turbine developed LOTRO rofl.
If you want to grind, you can get everything truly free, but I played the game and ended up spending money to avoid the grind. It’s not truly free.
Sure you’re playing with your friends and suddenly you get to an area which they’ve purchased and you haven’t. Oh sorry, guy, I thought you had this.
Well sure you can grind to get it,. it’ll only take a few days. In the mean time your friends are finished with the area and on the way forward.
In fact, I’ve seldom seen a greedier company than Turbine. Nice try.
Ahahahahahahahahahhaha
NO area is locked form you in LOTRO.
And noone cares what YOU did. Because thats what YOU did, FACT is you DONT have to pay anything.
Oh, i didnt mention that wardrobe lets you GET INFINITE COSMETIC VERSION OF ANY ITEM ON ANY OF YOUR CHARACTERS WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS. Pure awesome. Not to mention character cosmetic tabs. YEARS ago. What do you get in GW2? Nothing. Nada.
Mention anything you want. My entire guild left Lotro en masse because of Turbines greed. That’s a lot of people. Not that you’d know anything about it, since you don’t play the game.
You don’t have to pay anything. LMAO!
Wow, your guild of 1 quit enamsse rofl
Turbines greed, rofl What would you call GW2 then when you need to pay $$ just to have 1 cosmetic item transmuted ONCE FOR 1 CHARACTER. ON A B2P GAME rofl
If you call Turbine greedy, ANet is over 9000 greedy. FACT
Turbine is greedy. Most people I know have acknowledged it. And yes, the Lotro population has dropped significantly. There was also a lousy pick up percent on their last expansion. I wonder why.
Numberz…on no wait…you speak out of your kitten rofl
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
It’s worth the purchase price as it’s b2p not a sub game.
I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody as the list of thing’s that I don’t like is growing longer and longer.
And they don’t seem to listen to us.
Yah, at this point there are much better AAA F2P games out there. ANet wanted to be like them and compete with them, and well, thats what they get. Unfortunately horse they have is not much in that race.
I’m sure there are better games for YOU to play, but you seem to spend a lot of time here, on the Guild Wars 2 forum. I’m not sure why you’re not off playing those games…oh,. maybe they don’t exist.
Actually I’m sure for certain play styles there are better games than Guild Wars 2. There just aren’t any better games for other play styles.
That’s why you need to make up your own mind OP.
Awwwwwww, but i DO play those and not GW2, i am here when i cant play.
And yes, they offer MUCH better experience than what GW2 offers, they do that MUCH better. Its what happens when you want to compete in area your game wasnt built to compete in.
They order a much better experience in YOUR opinion. And since you don’t like the direction the game is headed and have said so publicly your opinion is against the game.
I don’t think this game is trying to compete with Lotro at all, nor should it, Because I didn’t enjoy Lotro enough to keep playing it and I enjoy this much more. This is a much better game for me than Lotro…and I do mean much better.
Any free to play game that tells me I can’t play with my friends because I haven’t bought that content is just bogus.
Awwwwww, but youll get 5 times more content in LOTRO for 60$.
GW2 is NOT free.
When you move to compare F2P game like LOTRO with B2P game like GW2 you prove my point. EOD
You don’t get ALL the content for $60 in Lotro. To get all the content it costs you a whole lot more. You need to do your homework mate.
Ahahhahahahahahahah
Yes you do, but i dont wonder you know 0 about it.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
One of the most common complaints about the game is that the cosmetic progression is a bust and I can’t help but wholeheartedly agree with that assessment. The transmutation system needs to be sloped and replaced by a proper wardrobe system in which you unlock skins. My bank is filled with cosmetic items I’ll never get to use due to the sheer hassle of it all and I dare to wager that I’m not alone in that.
I agree. It’s no wonder their “cosmetic progression” failed, making them add vertical progression into the game. GW2 has one of the worst cosmetic systems I have seen in any of my recent mmos. Even F2P games like DCUO and Rift have wardrobe systems that are so much more user friendly.
Yup, LOTRO was first to implemet absolutely perfect cosmetic system couple a YEARS ago. Thats YEARS were talking about.
Thats the thing, ANEt delivered broken/not there horizontal progressin and then rushed gear grind treadmill to the game instead working on delivering what they advertised for 5 years with manifesto.
Now the game is a mish-mash of crap+BS
Yep, Lotro is a great game. Well it was before Turbine took it over. Can you still buy traits in the cash shop?
Ahahahhahahahaah, Turbine developed LOTRO.
Too bad you have 0 facts and relevance.
I have lots of facts, too bad you avoided the question. Can you still buy traits in the cash shop. It’s not a hard question. Surely you know the answer to it.
Yes, Lotro had a very nice cosmetics armor system, (I bought all the wardrobe tabs from the cash shop myself), and Lotro has a lovely way of making you pay three times for the same storage. Pay for your bank storage (which wasn’t account wide), account wide bank storage, and cosmetic item storage seperately.
And you think Anet has strange cash shop practices? Go ahead and refute me.
You dont HAVE to pay for anything of that, you can expand bank starge with gold and its quite cheap, and you GET 20 account storage and 20 wardrobe storage.
And ill actually bother with your strawman: yes you can buy traits, also you can sub for 1 month and unlock everything on all of your characters FOREVER.
LOTRO is truly F2P game, if you want to grind it you can play EVERYTHING AND GET EVERYTHING COMPLETELY FREE.
FAIL again, but what do you expect froma guy that didnt even know Turbine developed LOTRO rofl.
If you want to grind, you can get everything truly free, but I played the game and ended up spending money to avoid the grind. It’s not truly free.
Sure you’re playing with your friends and suddenly you get to an area which they’ve purchased and you haven’t. Oh sorry, guy, I thought you had this.
Well sure you can grind to get it,. it’ll only take a few days. In the mean time your friends are finished with the area and on the way forward.
In fact, I’ve seldom seen a greedier company than Turbine. Nice try.
Ahahahahahahahahahhaha
NO area is locked form you in LOTRO.
And noone cares what YOU did. Because thats what YOU did, FACT is you DONT have to pay anything.
Oh, i didnt mention that wardrobe lets you GET INFINITE COSMETIC VERSION OF ANY ITEM ON ANY OF YOUR CHARACTERS WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS. Pure awesome. Not to mention character cosmetic tabs. YEARS ago. What do you get in GW2? Nothing. Nada.
Mention anything you want. My entire guild left Lotro en masse because of Turbines greed. That’s a lot of people. Not that you’d know anything about it, since you don’t play the game.
You don’t have to pay anything. LMAO!
Wow, your guild of 1 quit enamsse rofl
Turbines greed, rofl What would you call GW2 then when you need to pay $$ just to have 1 cosmetic item transmuted ONCE FOR 1 CHARACTER. ON A B2P GAME rofl
If you call Turbine greedy, ANet is over 9000 greedy. FACT
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
It’s worth the purchase price as it’s b2p not a sub game.
I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody as the list of thing’s that I don’t like is growing longer and longer.
And they don’t seem to listen to us.
Yah, at this point there are much better AAA F2P games out there. ANet wanted to be like them and compete with them, and well, thats what they get. Unfortunately horse they have is not much in that race.
I’m sure there are better games for YOU to play, but you seem to spend a lot of time here, on the Guild Wars 2 forum. I’m not sure why you’re not off playing those games…oh,. maybe they don’t exist.
Actually I’m sure for certain play styles there are better games than Guild Wars 2. There just aren’t any better games for other play styles.
That’s why you need to make up your own mind OP.
Awwwwwww, but i DO play those and not GW2, i am here when i cant play.
And yes, they offer MUCH better experience than what GW2 offers, they do that MUCH better. Its what happens when you want to compete in area your game wasnt built to compete in.
They order a much better experience in YOUR opinion. And since you don’t like the direction the game is headed and have said so publicly your opinion is against the game.
I don’t think this game is trying to compete with Lotro at all, nor should it, Because I didn’t enjoy Lotro enough to keep playing it and I enjoy this much more. This is a much better game for me than Lotro…and I do mean much better.
Any free to play game that tells me I can’t play with my friends because I haven’t bought that content is just bogus.
Awwwwww, but youll get 5 times more content in LOTRO for 60$.
GW2 is NOT free.
When you move to compare F2P game like LOTRO with B2P game like GW2 you prove my point. EOD
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
It’s worth the purchase price as it’s b2p not a sub game.
I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody as the list of thing’s that I don’t like is growing longer and longer.
And they don’t seem to listen to us.
Yah, at this point there are much better AAA F2P games out there. ANet wanted to be like them and compete with them, and well, thats what they get. Unfortunately horse they have is not much in that race.
I’m sure there are better games for YOU to play, but you seem to spend a lot of time here, on the Guild Wars 2 forum. I’m not sure why you’re not off playing those games…oh,. maybe they don’t exist.
Actually I’m sure for certain play styles there are better games than Guild Wars 2. There just aren’t any better games for other play styles.
That’s why you need to make up your own mind OP.
Awwwwwww, but i DO play those and not GW2, i am here when i cant play.
And yes, they offer MUCH better experience than what GW2 offers, they do that MUCH better. Its what happens when you want to compete in area your game wasnt built to compete in.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Players like to play. At their own pace. MMOs offer content, you can explore at your own pace. Normally, Devs add stuff, so there is more content you can discover at your own pace.
One time events are rare and between in other MMO’s for a reason, they annoy people who can not participate.
Making a whole game dependend on one time events (call it Living Story) destroys most players intent to play at their own pace, because it becomes mandatory to play at the pace of the dev cycle, if you want to experience the content.
The game changes from a hidden grind (most games are, some more hidden than others) to a count-down grind, which feel like pressure. People want to get away from the everyday pressure if playing. This produces a paradox, and people will stop enjoying the game.
End of story, they will avoid the stress that is the result of the new content.
Not really… every MMO other has a back story… I dont know if you played GW1 but I am going to use that as an example. Before the time when you start playing Gw1 there are a lot of stuff that happened. You had the 3 guild wars. You had humans invasion and conquering of Ascalon from the Charr etc… You start playing the game after these events and are unable to take part. How is that any different then joining Gw2 today and never getting the opportunity to take part in the motlen alliance invasion? it isnt, it just becomes back story to your experiance nothing else.
Its not a problem just like in gw1 it wasnt a problem that we never get to take part in the original invasion of ascalon.
This makes no sense. You are talking of a background story, of lore, which is essential to build a world that is believable. It is everywhere around you, as it is part of why you are in the mystical world.
Tell me, what part of, for example, the molten alliance invasion has become lore, an epic event that has shaped the world so drastically, that future content is build on it.
We have 2 npcs left from that, but surely, the game is not building up on these former events.
The living story is mostly just trashing out fire and forget content, that has no influx on the bigger picture.
Thats why they dont really question quality of it, because, why bother with that when itll be gone anyway in 2 weeks.
Whatever they make, and i mean whatever be it biggest BS ever, will end up ingame, 2 weeks cycle doesnt really forgive and alows rethinking and we can all witness other parts of the game are hurting badly.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
One of the most common complaints about the game is that the cosmetic progression is a bust and I can’t help but wholeheartedly agree with that assessment. The transmutation system needs to be sloped and replaced by a proper wardrobe system in which you unlock skins. My bank is filled with cosmetic items I’ll never get to use due to the sheer hassle of it all and I dare to wager that I’m not alone in that.
I agree. It’s no wonder their “cosmetic progression” failed, making them add vertical progression into the game. GW2 has one of the worst cosmetic systems I have seen in any of my recent mmos. Even F2P games like DCUO and Rift have wardrobe systems that are so much more user friendly.
Yup, LOTRO was first to implemet absolutely perfect cosmetic system couple a YEARS ago. Thats YEARS were talking about.
Thats the thing, ANEt delivered broken/not there horizontal progressin and then rushed gear grind treadmill to the game instead working on delivering what they advertised for 5 years with manifesto.
Now the game is a mish-mash of crap+BS
Yep, Lotro is a great game. Well it was before Turbine took it over. Can you still buy traits in the cash shop?
Ahahahhahahahaah, Turbine developed LOTRO.
Too bad you have 0 facts and relevance.
I have lots of facts, too bad you avoided the question. Can you still buy traits in the cash shop. It’s not a hard question. Surely you know the answer to it.
Yes, Lotro had a very nice cosmetics armor system, (I bought all the wardrobe tabs from the cash shop myself), and Lotro has a lovely way of making you pay three times for the same storage. Pay for your bank storage (which wasn’t account wide), account wide bank storage, and cosmetic item storage seperately.
And you think Anet has strange cash shop practices? Go ahead and refute me.
You dont HAVE to pay for anything of that, you can expand bank starge with gold and its quite cheap, and you GET 20 account storage and 20 wardrobe storage.
And ill actually bother with your strawman: yes you can buy traits, also you can sub for 1 month and unlock everything on all of your characters FOREVER.
LOTRO is truly F2P game, if you want to grind it you can play EVERYTHING AND GET EVERYTHING COMPLETELY FREE.
FAIL again, but what do you expect froma guy that didnt even know Turbine developed LOTRO rofl.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
It’s worth the purchase price as it’s b2p not a sub game.
I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody as the list of thing’s that I don’t like is growing longer and longer.
And they don’t seem to listen to us.
Yah, at this point there are much better AAA F2P games out there. ANet wanted to be like them and compete with them, and well, thats what they get. Unfortunately horse they have is not much in that race.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Yah, if only rest of departments were even remtely on that level…..
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Little birdies telling people stuff, posts gets deleted (not that they would question their PR) rofl
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
One of the most common complaints about the game is that the cosmetic progression is a bust and I can’t help but wholeheartedly agree with that assessment. The transmutation system needs to be sloped and replaced by a proper wardrobe system in which you unlock skins. My bank is filled with cosmetic items I’ll never get to use due to the sheer hassle of it all and I dare to wager that I’m not alone in that.
I agree. It’s no wonder their “cosmetic progression” failed, making them add vertical progression into the game. GW2 has one of the worst cosmetic systems I have seen in any of my recent mmos. Even F2P games like DCUO and Rift have wardrobe systems that are so much more user friendly.
Yup, LOTRO was first to implemet absolutely perfect cosmetic system couple a YEARS ago. Thats YEARS were talking about.
Thats the thing, ANEt delivered broken/not there horizontal progressin and then rushed gear grind treadmill to the game instead working on delivering what they advertised for 5 years with manifesto.
Now the game is a mish-mash of crap+BS
Yep, Lotro is a great game. Well it was before Turbine took it over. Can you still buy traits in the cash shop?
Ahahahhahahahaah, Turbine developed LOTRO.
Too bad you have 0 facts and relevance.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
The game is boring and it looks like ANet has no idea how to fix it.
If you want another guild wars, go play more gw1.
Else stick to wow.
Here once you get to 80 you will have literally NOTHING to do. You will log in and than be like “wat now”. Unless you enjoy following the brainless zerg train in every part of the game. Then the game is perfect for you.
Yup, with their superior decision making, ANet made sure endgame is more /facepalm than your standard MMO fare, and i did quite a bit of standard MMO fare.
At this point tehy look like geese in a fog, lost, just wandering around and not really aware what/where thyere going.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
One of the most common complaints about the game is that the cosmetic progression is a bust and I can’t help but wholeheartedly agree with that assessment. The transmutation system needs to be sloped and replaced by a proper wardrobe system in which you unlock skins. My bank is filled with cosmetic items I’ll never get to use due to the sheer hassle of it all and I dare to wager that I’m not alone in that.
I agree. It’s no wonder their “cosmetic progression” failed, making them add vertical progression into the game. GW2 has one of the worst cosmetic systems I have seen in any of my recent mmos. Even F2P games like DCUO and Rift have wardrobe systems that are so much more user friendly.
Yup, LOTRO was first to implemet absolutely perfect cosmetic system couple a YEARS ago. Thats YEARS were talking about.
Thats the thing, ANEt delivered broken/not there horizontal progressin and then rushed gear grind treadmill to the game instead working on delivering what they advertised for 5 years with manifesto.
Now the game is a mish-mash of crap+BS
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
I have no problem with having different things for different people to do in the game. In fact, it’s kittening amazing. It was one of the big and juicy promises prior to release. That’s how it should be done.
The alternative is forcing every player to do a bunch of things they don’t necessarily want or aren’t even any fun – and that’s where the game is now, and where it’s heading.
WoW, for example, has its famously horrible leveling grind. You can argue you “don’t have to do it” – and you really don’t, just go ahead and run around the starter zones – but it’s a futile argument because of the overall design. GW2 now falls victim to the same fallacy (and the same argument to defend it) – and the way you acquire Ascended gear is easily the most egregious example… so far.
It’s disappointing. It’s a broken promise.
Thats what you get for making stupid rushed reactions.
You are absolutely right that whole ascended idea is crap from start to finish.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
5+ for the effort, but since ANet doesnt take feedback its wasted.
And you are wrong if you think theres no direction for GW2. Its headed for the east and will get same tratement in the west like other NCSoft games (Aion/Lineage)
Oh, and for the poster above, there are so few new players incoming that its not really a concern
Few players? Like the new sales that will come from China? lol
If you move to Chinese servers yah ROFL
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
5+ for the effort, but since ANet doesnt take feedback its wasted.
Oh the knights on the white horses …
A.net takes feedback very seriously and has shown to do so on many, many occasions. Such statements as yours don’t help anyone.
Maybe A.net doesn’t the the feedback you’d like most, but that says more about you than A.net.
Uh-huh. Santa is not real also. Im sorry.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
5+ for the effort, but since ANet doesnt take feedback its wasted.
And you are wrong if you think theres no direction for GW2. Its headed for the east and will get same tratement in the west like other NCSoft games (Aion/Lineage)
Oh, and for the poster above, there are so few new players incoming that its not really a concern
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Ascended gear is required for fractals. Don’t play ignorant card.
“Ignorance is bliss” is these people way of life.
They are called PR.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
ESPECIALLY type of WoW and its clones and those have VERY defined traiits.
You would probably be better off researching the points I presented. Maybe even try establishing a fictitious business model and research through the entire process from beginning to end. You will develop a different view of things, and the inner workings of how the process works.
What do you think NCSoft/ANet did by changing 180?
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
You say MMOs are a service. I say they’re a form of entertainment. You think you’re more right than I am? People play MMOs to be served, or to be entertained.
Neither, really, but you are much closer. Technically, it’s considered under the category of printed matter such as books are. If you ever got into starting a software business, publishing software, aspects of development, to deal with governments and international protection laws, an MMORPG or any and all software is basically handled as a book.
You were closer to that early on, I wouldn’t use the term ‘entertainment’, I’ve seen mmo projects that were purely edgumicational (hehe). I mean like books are of all sorts, for entertainment and others for educational reasons etc. This is especially true in some small indie projects as well as to well known government agencies (e.g. NASA). But the uniting factor is code, which is printed matter, and thus falls into the category in which books dwell.
Try to play a GW2 without NCSoft providing a service.
Then come back and claim its like a book.
NCSoft is selling you a service.
Its on customer to decide is the service worth paying for or not. And by trends customers dont really find MMOs worth paying for to use it. Yes, it IS entertainment, but seems what MMOs provide entertain less and less people, and even less people want to pay for it.
Its not a matter of what legally that falls under but from business point of view.
Generally, legislation on online, well, anything is very poor, thats why you have them make you sign legally non valid contract (as an example of legislation). But its slowly cathcing up, as now i can sell my account and ANet/NCSoft cant do anything but throw a warm smile at me.
Try to read a book without a publisher providing the service of printing it. And it’s not just a book. Many books are parts of a series, which has continually be published in order for you to keep reading it. The publishing industry has provided a service, look at that.
Fiction, in particular, is still considered a form of entertainment. That’s why big, multimedia entertainment conglomerates (like Sony and Virgin) have been buying up publishing companies. To add to their entertainment portfolio.
Sony also provides people with games. I’m pretty sure it sees those games as a form of entertainment.
You say I’m making less and less sense. I’m so glad there are other people here reading this stuff besides just you.
Less and less sense.
Im also glad other people are reading it.
Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
