Guild Wars 2

I play a phantasm build and I shatter all the time. I play a power build and I time my bursts. The max effect of a burst is shatter your phantasms right after they attack. I can pump out new ones pretty fast after the shatter for another round of burst.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

1v1 and I’m mostly ok, although I’m really starting to hate hammer warriors. Those guys are now almost as bad as the perma noob thief types.

As much as I hate to have to aim my skills, Osicat’s blink ideas are pretty good. Still, I feel like a dirty thief when I reset a fight like that.

I have lost count on the number of times solo warriors who ran from me to reset fight , I wouldn’t feel bad if I were you.

Samhayn.2385:

I fought a really good ranger tonight, was reigning health like a feind and evading everywhere, was a really long fight but was able to drop me in the end most damage came from conditions and pets. Don’t know the build but was supper annoying to fight.

Ye you see one of those once in a blue moon. I think the problem is that their damage mostly come from the pet. If you keep an eye on the pet and time your dodges you should do fine.

It continues to amaze me how many SEA players still have their head in the sand and refuse to see the unfairness of it all. As about whining, this is not a whine , I solo roam 99% of the time. I don’t really give a crap about wining a match up. I’m just pointing out facts that’s pretty plain to see. BTW I play on SBI , when I logged off last nght at 11 we were ticking at last place. This morning as I write this post SBI is ticking 515.

Garuda.5140:

Mogar.9216:

comes down to fairness. If a keep took 50 people 2 hrs to take it should worth more than the same keep taken by 3 person. Yes I have taken keeps with 1 golem and 3 players a few times in the morning. I really don’t think my 10 mins of pvd with 2 friends is the same kitten people at 8pm est working 2 hrs to take the same keep.

I LoL’ed kitten this one.
Basicaly if it took u 2h to take a keep with 50 players on u, it means that u fought against roughly same numbers of constantly respavning enemys. And if u eventually took that keep, it means u have just farmed a kitten out of those guys. So, u got ur reward for the Lord (about 40 of them actually, cuz i can get bag from bannered Lord every 3 minutes) and a kitten loads of bags and greens/blues. Now i totally failed to see what’s the problem for u…
Also i have to say that i live in CET +2 zone and i usually sleep evenings and then play at nights cuz thats the time when u can have the most insane, skilled and fun commanders, and the best fights, not zone blobs steamrolling over each other but really interesting fights; regardless my server population mostly consists of +1 to +4 CET zones.
So stop making thing up about ppl playing out of their time zones and all unfairness of that. Who wants – does, who doesn’t want – whines.

You seem to have completely miss the point of this thread. Perhaps a trip back to grade 5 is warranted. How many loot bags you get at a keep fight has ZERO impact at how many pts you get to win a match up. This whole thread is about capping not getting wxp or loot.

Shazmataz.1423:

Life isn’t fair so get used to it. It amuses me how people get all entitled about fairness in WvW. It’s a game, its worldwide, it doesn’t mean anything really and it is what it is. Your character dies, your server loses or wins…no big deal, real life goes on.

Like the humour in the OP’s original post definitely good for a chuckle

True life isn’t fair but this is a game not life. Unlike life most games we play are designed to be fair, in fact I would say fairness is the corner stone of any competitive game or sport. If you had chess where black had 2 queens to whites 1 I hardly think it will be played by many people, or if football allowed 3 more players for the home team.

Osicat.4139:

Play Hidden Cat, PU GS /s/t, travaler runes and longer blink. Only fear other PU mesemer curently. Still some skilled thiefs I need to stealth, drop out of combat and change the GS for a staff or s/s-Scepter/torch.

/Osicat

Do you get the feeling when you fight another PU mesmer that it comes down to timing of stealth? While I use PU and abuse it to the max at the same time I feel that it has really dumbed down 1 v 1 vs other mesmers.

comes down to fairness. If a keep took 50 people 2 hrs to take it should worth more than the same keep taken by 3 person. Yes I have taken keeps with 1 golem and 3 players a few times in the morning. I really don’t think my 10 mins of pvd with 2 friends is the same kitten people at 8pm est working 2 hrs to take the same keep.

You SEA player keep whining about how your effort should count as much as prime time players. The fact is you fail to see that right now your effort is worth WAY MORE than NA players. It is the NA prime time players who are getting shafted because their hard work counts for little in wining a match up.

I fear a few really good thieves. I don’t know their names but I know their playing style and looks. There are 1 or 2 on every server . Other than that I actively seek to fight pretty much every other person.

Double tap. I dodge none stop and the direction is important to me. I bind everything to left side of the keyboard if I can save a keybind I kitten well won’t waste it.

:( sad that you pve in wvw. There is no better satisfaction in killing ANOTHER PLAYER imo. Esp one that killed you before

dreztina.4820:

Mogar.9216:

Mesmers are extremely hard to deal with as a new player, at the higher end of the skill curve we are no more powerful tan any other class. The key to beat us is spotting the real mesmer which unfortunately only comes with practice.

Any time I see a mesmer say this, I immediately know they are no where near the higher end of the skill curve.

If you disagree with what I said then make a counter argument. Attacking me personally just make you seem like a pompous kitten . See how easy it is? seems your are not the only one who knows how to throw personal insults around.

Mesmers are extremely hard to deal with as a new player, at the higher end of the skill curve we are no more powerful tan any other class. The key to beat us is spotting the real mesmer which unfortunately only comes with practice.

I agree any food buff that adds more than 30% of anything is most likely overpowered.

I think I have fought someone who uses a build like this one. I won because of PU. the extra 1 sec stealth gave me the edge in targeting. I think it a good build but you’ll have a real tough time beating another mesmer who has PU.

leungclj.4915:

help me understand why you bring deceptive evasion?

It serves 2 purpose.
1 when I am playing defence I stealth and dodge. It tricks people into attacking the clone .
2. When I shatter I dodge toward my target and shatter for max damage.

I don’t hide in shadows and let the phantasm work. It’s an active playing style. Most of the time I use them for initial burst and then shatter them. The whole idea behind this build is to lock down your opponent when he is at his weakest pt. i.e at the start of a fight or after they have burned their stun breakers and without boons . Then you burst them down or close to death in a few seconds.

I don’t use torch because the pistol is just too good vs so many classes like thieves and guardians.
I ran with Deb diss for a long time. in the end I find that this build really doesn’t lack any damage. The few times I lost a 1 v 1 a bit more Defense would have made the difference. (edit I mean a more consistent damage reduction , I would use DD for sure if the effects apply when you shattered )
Thievery is a must vs good necros and engis and helps a ton to strip stability so I can land my stun before bust.

I am meaning to try Bountiful interruption , it’s hard giving up that extra condition removal though.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsaRnUEVUbBN20wWjEx0je74AuTFgOSFctSKwtLE-j0BBkFBi+AMzkIaN7EsMsIas6aYKXER1SBMqyI-w

This is my build for wvw/pvp in general pretty much everything.
It is hybrid lock down, Phantasm build with PU.

Comments welcome.

:) you screwed up so you feel the need to teach US a lesson?

Hydrobutter.9172:

Mogar.9216:

Pinko.2076:

Mogar.9216:

Seriously I can’t believe SBI and Mag are letting YAKs pull the same trick as last week. This is freaking hilarious .

please elaborate on the secret yaks strategy

cause from Mag it seems like they win from playing at hours where no one is on then sitting on arrowcarts

They ignore Mags first to attack SBI only. Since SBI are made of mostly fair weather wvwers after 1 day of losing ppl stops coming out . So SBI goes from 1st to last and stays last. Then they stop attacking SBI and attack Mags around Thursday . Since both SBI and Mags seem to be clueless as to what is going on they continues to attack each other the whole week so basically allow Yaks dictate 2v1 with them always on the 2 side. It is quite impressive to see them pull it off last week. But to see it work 2 weeks in a row …. lol

whoa thanks for cracking the code holmes

Don’t thank me with your worthless words send me your gold.

Pinko.2076:

Mogar.9216:

Seriously I can’t believe SBI and Mag are letting YAKs pull the same trick as last week. This is freaking hilarious .

please elaborate on the secret yaks strategy

cause from Mag it seems like they win from playing at hours where no one is on then sitting on arrowcarts

They ignore Mags first to attack SBI only. Since SBI are made of mostly fair weather wvwers after 1 day of losing ppl stops coming out . So SBI goes from 1st to last and stays last. Then they stop attacking SBI and attack Mags around Thursday . Since both SBI and Mags seem to be clueless as to what is going on they continues to attack each other the whole week so basically allow Yaks dictate 2v1 with them always on the 2 side. It is quite impressive to see them pull it off last week. But to see it work 2 weeks in a row …. lol

Seriously I can’t believe SBI and Mag are letting YAKs pull the same trick as last week. This is freaking hilarious .

This has been the best build for a while now. I dueled a lot of mesmers with this build. I lost a lot of those duels. The only way after much trying I found I can beat one is use a lock-down/shatter build and hope that you land a stun at the start of the fight and burst down his health right away. Force him into defense mode.

Edit: I have joined the dark side myself. The old saying if you can’t beat them join them.

Like someone else posted already. Stay at max range and just let your phantasms do the work. Do let them lure you into a small confined area. Now if you are condition build I have no idea how to beat them.

Tongku.5326:

NargofWoV.4267:

Flytrap.8075:

I’m grateful for the Tomes of Knowledge, personally.

Less time wasted leveling my new Elementalist, more time in WvW.

A lot of my guildies already have all their slots filled with level 80’s what good is a tome? I don’t plan to every make another 80 in this game, so a tome is useless to me. Personally speaking.

Tomes = skill points
skill points = gold
gold = one of the things lack of which WvW players continually complain about

I personally can’t believe how many people do not see this. It doesnt take a PVE player or WvW player, or anything, you dont have to grind for anything either, its a very quick and fast way to make gold in this game. No grinding or max crafting whatsoever required. All anyone has to do is check TP once in a while, run cursor over things and read the descriptions, come to correct conclusions, insta profit. That simple.

I personally can’t believe that there are people in this game that are stupid enough not to see this.

If the intent was to give wvw player gold they could just do that “gasp” GIVE US GOLD. You know like when you do pve stuff you get something called “A BAG OF COINS”…. While I don’t care much about the reward but I can’t help pointing out the flaw in your logic, Feels like you are trying tOo hard to defend Anet.

Yep a unique skin would have done it, weapon or armor. They could have easily made the skin different colours to represent how well your server did in the season. That is really all you need to keep most people happy. It wouldn’t have upset any game balance at all.

Fought a team of at least 4 at bay last night. I thought it was a giant zerg at first then I realized what it was lol.

You guys already run a bunch of 2x Mesmer teams. Me and my friend ran into at least 3 pairs so far. We are the midget 2x mesmer team from TOAD SBI

While I have no problem that SBI lost to a 2 v 1. It is rather amusing the servers who teamed up to get the win some how see it as a great victory. How is out zerging a zerg server such great accomplishment?

I’m SBI so if you are going to flame know where I come from.

This week’s match has proven to be very interesting. It shows that when 2 evenly matched server get paired the 3’d weakest party can be a very effective king maker.

The question is , is this a good thing or bad thing? I see both side of the story. It is good because it gives smaller world a reason to go and play with the big boys. On the other hand it’s bad because the out come of a match up depends more on deals with other servers rather than your own server’s play, it make it into more like a survivor kind of situation.

What do you guys think?

Ranger hands down
Staff ele is also easy but Dagger eles aren’t
The rest depends on player entirely. I.E I can melt a bad thief before they can even stealth but good ones are very tough to beat.

Thievery is awesome , too bad not many people use it. Yes it doesn’t fire once in a while but used at the right time it’s a tide turner . Also staff 2 owns stun warriors as well between that and decoy they should never even reach you.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

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my build for WvW . I beat pretty much every mesmer except very few really good ones that run PU build

Just looking at that build, I have to doubt the effectiveness of it.

You’ve got deceptive evasion (shatter + clone death). You’ve got mental torment (shatter). Debilitating dissipation (clone death). Vigorous revelation (shatter). 25 Inspiration and phantasmal fury (phantasm).

You’ve got traits all over the place. None of them play nice with each other. They’re all running in different directions and you’re not going to be getting full use out of any of them.

Edit: and full rabid gear. What…?

Zerker gear, I didn’t bother with gear. It’s a hybrid phantasm/shatter build. I don’t really feel like defending my build on paper but I’m happy to duel you any time

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my build for WvW . I beat pretty much every mesmer except very few really good ones that run PU build

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my build for WvW . I beat pretty much every mesmer except very few really good ones that run PU build

Buffs. look for food buffs the one with food buffs is the real mesmer. Also clones don’t dodge .

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

It used to be that way a long time ago, but no longer. The chaos 15 minor has an internal cooldown of 15 seconds.

Yes I know. 3 sec protection every 15 secs is 25% up time if you are melee mesmer which is not bad at all. If you are ranged like me I just run toward a phantasm when I need protection or cast one beside me. i.e when I know a thief is gonna back stab me.

Except wha actually happens is you know the thief is going to backstab you, but it already procced 10 seconds ago.

That really depends on play style. I play with GS/Staff so I’m no where close to my izerker when the fight starts. When I’m in trouble I switch to staff and proc a protection and stand in chaos field. Works pretty good most of the time. I ran with PU for a bit after the buff what I find was that I really don’t need any protection while in stealth but really missed not having it when I can’t stealth.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

It used to be that way a long time ago, but no longer. The chaos 15 minor has an internal cooldown of 15 seconds.

Yes I know. 3 sec protection every 15 secs is 25% up time if you are melee mesmer which is not bad at all. If you are ranged like me I just run toward a phantasm when I need protection or cast one beside me. i.e when I know a thief is gonna back stab me.

1. Watch the buffs on people and watched the buffs on yourself
2. Expect people to jump you from all angles all the time.
3. Go for the softest target first
4. Find pillars, rocks you can run around of to cut line of sight.
5. Know when to cut your loses and run

Mochann.5298:

My first 1v1 I lost. I was a Mesmer, he was an Engineer. I died because I was built for PVE and had no condition cleanse.

The next day, I bring out my super phantasm Mesmer build. I kick kitten . Then the opponent, on the verge of defeat, runs away. Slow as a pig stuck in tar, I couldn’t catch up.

A couple days later, I duel again. This time I kick their kitten with super phantasm. I figure I fought an uplevel because he sucked. Yeah. Then I realized I am wasting my time dueling when I could be breaking zergs and doing mass murders.

Now, a few days later, I run a super specialized nuking Ele and burn zergs to a crisp. I tend to kill 10-20 people per zerg battle. I only fight when I’m in a group of 4 or more people, preferably ZvZ fights, the bigger the better. I die if I’m ever put in a 1v1 position. I suck at running so I usually can’t even escape. Oh but the kills I rack up….

You make it sound like you can either zerg or roam. I roam 99% of the time but I do hit the zerg v zerg when there is a good one going on . With my 1v1 build as a mesmer I really have no problem at all ‘killing’ in a zerg. The only problem I have when I zerg is manage my full inventory.

Alissah.9281:

I’m wondering where damage comes from with that trait + weapon set up… And why do you call it a hybrid? Sword and greatsword both are 100% direct damage.

I must be not seeing something here…

If its just a direct damage build instead of hybrid, go full Berserker. Add more toughness if needed, 2050 armor is low but better than nothing. 2400 is quite high, 2700 is very tanky, and probably overkill.

Mogar.9216:

You really should not need any toughness at all. Stacking Defence is a crotch for lack of skill. Between clones and stealth and dodge you should not be hit much at all. That’s just imo. Others may disagree.

if you put a few pts into Chaos line you can get pretty consistent protection as well.

You probably mean you get protection from Chaos minor master and Prismatic Undertanding. His traits already had 30 Chaos, so… :p

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

You really should not need any toughness at all. Stacking Defence is a crotch for lack of skill. Between clones and stealth and dodge you should not be hit much at all. That’s just imo. Others may disagree.

if you put a few pts into heal line you can get pretty consistent protection as well.

if the thief uses a speed hack then cnd becomes very deadly. Not saying most thief use speed hacks but I have fought a few that does.

pro tip: Get a bunch of friends and go to heart of mist , find an empty server and duel them over and over and over. You will get better. honestly most players in wvw are bad at 1v1. Any one willing to 1 v 1 however will be pretty good. Stick to 1 class you like and duel as much as you can.

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Mission: Create a friendly place for soloers and small group roamers to gather and:
. Chat with each other about combat tactics
. Share 1v1, 2v2, 1vx , 2vx stories
. Setup duels, fight clubs

Rules:
There is only 1 rule: NO DRAMA, KEEP THE GUILD CHAT CIVIL.
Rep requirment : NONE, this is a social guild no rep required .
Everyone will have privilege to invite, if you fought an epic 1 v 1 vs someone please invite that person to guild .
Contact me in game for invite or reply to this thread or send me a pm.

mogar daoc
SBI

HYPNOTOAD CLAN [TOAD]

Mission: Create a friendly place for soloers and small group roamers to gather and:

. Chat with each other about combat tactics
. Share 1v1, 2v2, 1vx , 2vx stories
. Setup duels, fight clubs

Rules:
There is only 1 rule: NO DRAMA, KEEP THE GUILD CHAT CIVIL.

Rep requirment : NONE, this is a social guild no rep required .
Everyone will have privilege to invite, if you fought an epic 1 v 1 vs someone please invite that person to guild .

Contact me in game for invite or reply to this thread or send me a pm.

mogar daoc
SBI

Hot join mesmer simply owns. tpvp is all about team work so your build will be different.

you can use centaur runes and mirror heal to avoid paying 40g for the travelers. As for build, any build that kills fast is good for roaming. And a lot of practice, skill matters a lot .

I cry a little when I read post like this. Try some other weapon sets as ele and don’t stick with a zerg all the time.