my own guild doesn’t want me if I don’t have one of those supposed meta armors
Well, you can’t hold anet responsible for that. Maybe you should look for another guild.
ArenaNet and their berseker meta and timers breeded this kind of people.
If your own guild doesnt take you… im really sorry to say but it seems to me you are in a terribad guild my friend….
I have just exotic set and exotic weapon..( full set and weapon from COF dugeon )
And i get many group invites daily on lfg… my guild even more…
Managed to kill vale already but not gorseval… but will do soon enough.. i am getting an asceded weapon but not because i was told to… but because i want to.. rest will remain exotic till i and noone else feels the need to change it… i am pretty sure all 3 bosses from the feedback i got can be done if you have ascended trinckets and at least the proper stat set… exotic is ok to so it…
Well it’s like this> I go on LFG, and state without lying this: LF raid – guard/DH full asc. soldier/trinkets swapable. Nobody invites me… then I say this in guild and I get kittenstorm of “soldier is not needed in raids”
I always ignored these comments in fractals and I could easily be the most important character in many pug groups with soldier stats as their supposed best possible gear and not very good skill made them downed a lot, and then I could tank a few hits while healing them. This is what tank in GW2 always meant for me. But not in raids obviously… you need just a few points more toughness than your colleagues – which basically means having toughness shoes and you are good to go – and otherwise, no vitality, yeah that one is for noobs, not for tanks. Healing? yeah but everybody is telling me how guardians suck at healing so, no no, that is also not the option. So heavy armour character that was created to protect allies ends up as a simple ranged DPS and all the glory is given to OP heralds and druids. Sad Sad Sad.
Yeah, I know.. I will start farming right after I chill from the last farm for birfrost… Can somebody please tell me what stat combo gives me the highest chance of being accepted in raid (guardian/DH)? Metabattle says cleric, but forum posters say other stats… I have 3 ascended boxes from PVP,fractals and bioluminescence collection, so I am half-way there. I just don’t like the concept…. I will choose stats and in the second wing they will ask for some different ones… Also, I think that the best possible set for me would be Zealot, but my God :/ that one is expensive as hell.
hopefully they will so i can move on
why is it that 95% of the time where people talk about the difficulty of Raids what the means is difficulty of the first boss and just assume everyone thinks raids = first boss?
I also mentioned gorseval in my post. I did not mention sabetha because I haven’t attempted her yet, i’d rather not speak on things I don’t know about. But from what I’ve heard she isn’t that bad either.
Honestly I’ve had absolutely no difficulty with gorseval, his mechanics are far easier than vale guardian and since you need less specific roles you’re free to have more power dps to compensate for the shorter timer.
Bro, I am with you….these elitists think that you need some uber special ascended stat combo with their uber special party build. They think that after one week they found out everything and nothing else is possible.
my own guild doesn’t want me if I don’t have one of those supposed meta armors.. i don’t feel like trying anymore. Stupid 52 stat points… ArenaNet should never had introduce ascended.
Again, explain it to the people out there….
Requiring 700 gold investment in armor to just start playing raid is just against everything arenanet based their game on.
Yea, I know, you only need ascended trinkets and weapons blabla… explain it to players for whom I am noob because I don’t have required stat combo.
I say, make ascended armors reforging cheap and time gated, and allow withdrawing runes for free, then I will have it and can finally show those kitten elitists that even people like me can easily take down these bosses if they let them in.
Without the enrage timer, raids stop being a test of your skill, since everyone can just facetank it and slowly whittle down the bosses.
This really gets my goat because it’s so patently not true. If you screw up the mechanics, the raid wipes; doesn’t matter what gear or what build, if you don’t stack in the green field/get off the platform/beat the boss before the platform is destroyed then the raid wipes. Removing the enrage timer just means that you have to beat the mechanics consistently more often, the fight goes longer but no matter your gear you can’t face tank the bosses because the mechanics will kill you.
At the moment there is literally no choice, you have to run zerker (or condi equivalent) or your raid will fail. That, to me, is bad design; enrage timers are a lazy gear/meta check, nothing more.
You’re right, I should have worded it differently: Without the enrage timer, the only thing left to do is taking care of the mechanics, while slowly [….]
And there is nothing wrong about it at all… period. Players should be able to decide whether they want to be more tanky or more zerky. It is how this game was created. Then elitists from wow came and created this stupid zerker meta.
wait…soldier gear for tank?? Does it mean that some groups would actually take me as their tank with my full ascended soldier guardian/DH?
I think all of these bosses are easily doable. Now please gimme 700 gold on second ascended set… (as reforging old armor with putting new expensive as hell runes into it is pretty expensive and not worth it)
The problem, at least for me, is the fact that every class needs very specific DPS build. Either pure dps or condi… All the runes and sigils people need for raids now cost so much money that I am actually unable to join some serious group.
tldr: Raids are locked behind gold, and only then behind skill.
You get pigments from salvaging cheap dyes….just saying.
p2w means you are forced to pay i havnt felt a NEED to pay for anything unless i wanted too its NOT VERY HARD to earn gold and turn it into gems its actually easy fairly fun .
http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki
- dragonhunter
- druid
- reaper
- scrapper
- tempest
That is just an example.
Outside of PVP, it is not P2W. But more like pay, pay again for gems to gold, to enjoy the game.
Ok, it seems nobody put it here yet.
Medium guild challenge in timberline falls is bugged. Nobody can start it. NPC that starts the mission won’t let you.
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I don’t know if it encourages anyone to buy a little bit of gold for a large sum of real life money, but the only thing it encourages ME to do, is to stop playing. Or at least caring about raids at all… I wanted to get legendary armor so I don’t need to care about changing armors anymore. Now I have to pay several thousands of gold to get all the armors needed for raids, thus legendary armor would be good just for its skin. Not worth the effort IMO.
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You actually need ascended now. Forgot?
Is there any? I did some rough calculations and light ascended armor set costs now around 700 gold.
Also, spiritwood planks are for double the price since Nevermore release…. What a unwise decision to make ascended material part of new legendaries and precursor crafting.
What’s done is done, now remove daily time gate so the prices stabilize at least a little bit.
(yea and it is cheaper to sell ascended mats and buy precursors of the TP. I just did.)
You beat the first boss and you are acting like you finished the raid… go try to kill the second one.
Spirit wood plank for 16,5 gold yesterday. I had 32 + 10 elonian leather prepared for the collection. Sold Everything. Earned enough gold to buy Legend off the TP.
So much for legendary collections…..what a joke to bind precursor hunt behind tradeable goods. The only thing I am sorry about is that 5 gold I put into it and millions of EXP that could have went into Pact Commander or Fractals mastery.
“Tell it to the 90% of the playerbase. Please, don’t have super-witty suggestions like this one.”
90%????
Wow! where are you getting your stats from??
Sheesh if only I’dve known that 90% of the playerbase…….
Oh sorry, reality came in and woke me up:)
It’s a simple math…. I used to see a hundred people in VB..let’s 150 as that is the supposed upper limit…now, besides the raiders, you are lucky to find 10 people doing events..let’s say 15. There you have it. ..After the initial days of the expansion, when commanders moved away from this content, causals have no clue how to succeed in these maps as they require too much coordination and people. Night cycle in VB: coordinate at least 30 people to defend camps…. another 10-15 to protect pact soldiers…and that is just the beginning.
Hmm…
Get gud.
/15 chars
Tell it to the 90% of the playerbase. Please, don’t have super-witty suggestions like this one.
Alteraphim, my argument is not a nonsense. I care about other players having fun in HoT, because 1. one of those players is my girlfriend with whom I would love to play new content, 2. many nice people you meet out there would loved to play it too, but it is too darn hard for them. In the end, it means:
1. there are not enough players who can survive in the jungle.
2. even those who survive there sometimes really don’t enjoy the experience
3. there is no reason why people who paid 50€ or bucks for the expansion should not enjoy what they paid for. – AKA difficulty is sometimes too hard (fake difficulty topic in this forum explains it all) and time you need to play in order to finish meta is also too long.
If you don’t understand or believe my points by this time, I am done talking to you.
Casual players can still enjoy all aspects of the new maps.
if we turn into hardcore players
Change your build up and experiment with new builds, join a guild, ask in map chat for help. None of these things make you hardcore and soon you will be back to pressing 1 and winning just like the old days.
Casual doesn’t mean unskilled.
Casual players are immensely hindered by the ridiculously long meta event cycles tied to the real-world clock. Casual players don’t plan their playing hours. They log in, and play.
Some of them are skilled enough to deal with any challenge in the new maps, except the challenge of needing to be online at specific times to participate in the only significant content on offer in the new maps.
Exactly this. Finally someone who knows semantics of words.
Also ALteraphim, should I go to game and take screenshots of empty camps, events, failing metas, empty LFGs that don’t list TD DS and now even VB anymore? Don’t give me this bullcrap of not having any evidence. Go into game and see it for yourself.
I am a casual player and yet I have full ascended and a legendary and the second one will be thanks to collections before Christmas (I don’t call it Holiday season as crazy Americans do just so they don’t upset minorities, lol back to my point), I have fully explored first 3 maps of HoT, and YET I want them to make it easier!!!! Not for my sake, but for everyone’s else. The maps are almost empty. Nobody wants to play in those maze maps when they have to run for their lifes without being able to stop and actually enjoy it for a second. Emptiness of these maps just proves my point. + there is this grossly overturned difficulty for succeeding meta.
Since there is no way of knowing how many overflow maps are present emptiness of the map proves nothing. Your evidence is anecdotal, without real data you don’t have a point. Are you running berserker gear?
No I don’t? As I said, I have no problems with surviving in the jungle… I said all the causals hate it and the maps are almost empty for the last week. And it is not just because of raids. And I also said, exploring jungle = playing in groups and clearing everything you see, or playing alone with as many stunbreakers and swiftness buffs as possible. Fun factor? – zero
I am a casual player and yet I have full ascended and a legendary and the second one will be thanks to collections before Christmas (I don’t call it Holiday season as crazy Americans do just so they don’t upset minorities, lol back to my point), I have fully explored first 3 maps of HoT, and YET I want them to make it easier!!!! Not for my sake, but for everyone’s else. The maps are almost empty. Nobody wants to play in those maze maps when they have to run for their lifes without being able to stop and actually enjoy it for a second. Emptiness of these maps just proves my point. + there is this grossly overturned difficulty for succeeding meta.
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Yesterday I played desert borderlands and I was literally alone there! What’s wrong with you guys? That map is so cool! Give it a chance for God’s sake… Of course the new map doesn’t work the same. What would be the point of making a new one if the only change would be texture? ….first you nag for 3 years that you want to see new map, and now when you have it, you nag you want the old one back.
It really seems to me that hardcore wvw community doesn’t actually know what they want… They want to feel like baddases by killing real players, but somehow that’s not enough.
I noticed it too. Everyone is gone…and WvW borderlands are empty too.
And how would people do the raid during off-peak times, when they cannot get to T4?
I think the best solution would be as suggested before, a substation, like that from SAB. Players go through the portal to a separate waiting room instance, and from there they can make parties and then go to the raid.
Don’t know, don’t care. I want people to be active in VB. I am selfish, you know
paying 2000 gold for a bug
I want the timer gone. The encounter is hard enough even without it. Certainly harder than some WoW raids. If ArenaNet created 20+ stat combinations, they all should have some use and they don’t. If they want just 4 stat combos to have purpose in game, they should delete all the other stats.
Require T4 to open the raid, problem solved.
Omg I love you man! This would solve everything.
Colin please make this happen! It would be similar to crucible of eternity and CoF
Why not guardian for boon strip? I can remove 2 condi’s per one shout with my trooper runes. + wings of resolve remove 3 condis and one of the shouts remove all the condis… the problem is only with Feel My Wrath, which is bugged as Trooper runes are not counted towards it
Boon strip and condi removal are two different things. Guardians aren’t so hot at stripping enemy boons. But are awesome at condition removal.
Oh! Yeah… I confused those two… sorry. If I may ask, do you think raiding parties will find a role for guardian? I don’t feel like raiding if not :-/
Completed: https://youtu.be/elV5EiNU4dM
Amazing! That end was so funny though


There is no way all the people in a raid are going to be able to wear toughness gear and beat that timer.
Yet most people I’ve pugged with seem convinced they need toughness gear for raids and are geared that way. So DPS is low overall.
Just doesn’t work.
That’s not even true, all groups managed to bean vale guardian have 1 tank with high toughness, that’s a fact.
Learn reading comprehension
I noticed some time ago that Rune of the trooper does not activate for converted healing skill shout and Feel my wrath! elite. Is this still a thing? …I’m too lazy to test it.
Why not guardian for boon strip? I can remove 2 condi’s per one shout with my trooper runes. + wings of resolve remove 3 condis and one of the shouts remove all the condis… the problem is only with Feel My Wrath, which is bugged as Trooper runes are not counted towards it
I am always put into a map with AFKers and no-brainers. No matter what LFG map i choose.
So I was raging for 3 weeks about inactivity and stupidity of players in VB who are the reason that I still didn’t get a single bladed coat box and instead of lowering the requirements or improving megaservers you actually made it even worse by turning VB into a staging area for raids? …I don’t have energy for this anymore. Good bye Verdant Brink. Never again.
Usually there is like 5 dedicated players on the server, one who is trying to organise others – me, 20 AFKers, 30 clueless, 94 sheep people
The first tier of the backpack (collection+actual crafting components) requires 7!!!!!! balls of dark matter. …You can salvage 7 sets of ascended armor and still not have enough for a freaking tier 1!
It requires 2. I repeat this. You need 2 to get finite result which you then salvage to get 5 more balls.
Oh, I get it now.. This page confused me:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Solution:_Finite_Result
I thought you need to complete the collection and then buy that solution from quatermaster for 5 balls
It is almost one month since HoT and I still didn’t get Tier 4 night. I tried like 50 times. I hate people.
Argue what ever you like, but legendary backpack can easily get more expensive than legendary weapon. Do the counting…. if armors and weapons have the biggest chance of yielding balls of dark matter and that chance is still much lower than 100%, that means that you can easily salvage ascended items in the value of several thousands of golds and you still won’t get enough of that material. Legendary backpack requires A LOT of that material.. not just two or three. The first tier of the backpack (collection+actual crafting components) requires 7!!!!!! balls of dark matter. …You can salvage 7 sets of ascended armor and still not have enough for a freaking tier 1!
OK. So I still riot!!!!
Wait, so is this confirmed that you have 100% chance of getting that ball of dark energy when you salvage a piece of salvage armor? …let’s say boots?
Or, at least, are you confirming that you get that ball of dark energy when salvaging ascended weapon?
If so, I guess it is alright.
EotN did not even have third axis.
40€ is not a rip off as there are no monthly fees and you will get the whole season of content for free. And you actually already got 2 seasons of content for free before.
Living World Season 3 will come in the beginning of 2016 and will be available only to those people who own HoT. So you basically paid even for the whole season of content. Rather join the rant about bugs and ridiculous salvage rates of ascended mats please.
I decided to list this as a bug, because I refuse to believe you really meant ascended salvaging to work like that. If yes, the one who made it deserves to be fired.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Ascended-salvaging-1
I don’t want to live in a world where 65g item is cheap.