I feel you dude! I main a thief for almost a year now and it’s really been nerf to oblivion. Its so bad that it forces thief players to not 1v1 the majority of classes in the game. I felt like quitting the game after what happened to my thief. My alts had no problem what so ever in pvp.
I actually have pulled it off many times. Bad pvper. Just stop trolling and stop being true to your name.
I get that you’re trying to redeem some dignity by lying but I’m betting that non of us are dumb enough to believe anything you state after your previous comment.
Rangers shouldn’t have a problem cause all they have to do is stay away from danger zones and pew themselves to victory. Thieves can barely take down good guards if they’re forced to 1v1.
If thieves will lost all gap closers – OK. But now, with no problem jumps up to 5000 – no way
Kill good guardian just impossible for Zerk ranger.
How many builds does a ranger have to take out a guard? How many variations of builds does a thief have to effectively take out a guard? Check the meta or make a build of some sort and post it here for thieves please. I urge you try.
From what I have been reading on these forums. The Thief has literally been nerf’d into the ground and unplayable in PvP.
You are right, the game is full of easy mode AoE and CC, Condi builds etc that deal way more damage than a skill shot like back stab. I think if you are wanting a melee play Warrior, if you want a stealth toon play Ranger. Thief is dead.
Wait, what? Ez mode? I wonder who has ez mode. If you want to find out who has it “easy” play my zerker staff ele full of AoE and CC and I’ll play your thief build. We will see who has it “easy” when I can reset all the fights I want, flee without possibly being caught and start any fight with a 50% head start on life points because I destroyed that much of your life pool before you even knew I was there…
That post is just ridiculous. I can understand some frustration after some nerfs but this is just shameful.
You do know that in the current Meta there are a lot of ez mode builds? Did he call out your specific Staff Ele build?(who would consider playing staff ele in a spvp environment anyway) No. He was pointing out the many ez mode builds out there compared to the current thief meta. Thief is in a decent spot, it just requires more skill than other Professions builds at the moment. Instead of buffing thief, builds such as the spammy grenade, bomb, turret engis need to be looked at, as well as the ranger LB/GS. Thief can beat these builds, in the hands of the right player. We dont need a cheesy build or buff that creates one, thief should always remain a class that demands tact and skill.
Maybe you want to read what OP said and what I actually said in reply to a specific portion of what was said.
BTW I do play a staff ele in spvp and WvW (solo roaming included) it works very well. I, however, would not dare call it “ez mode” even if I do have a lot of AoE that the OP allude to be what makes something “ez”.
I face tons of zero risk builds. I know what they look like and it is not their AoE that makes it ez for them but how many mistakes they can make before they get into trouble. How many mistake do you think you can make with a zerker geared staff ele you think?
Bahahahahahahahaha if the thief doesn’t kill you if you’re on your STAFF ELE then either he is new or a noob.
8k backstabs, 6k+ HSs – yeah, so underpowered class, buff them Anet please! Thieves needs in 20k backstabs and 15k heartseekers!
Did I ever ask for such an impossible damage output from any class in the game? 20k? XD don’t be a noob.6k heart seeker(May be possible currently). But think about it cost initiative requires the opponent to be at 50% lower to be effective with an obvious animation. I’m gonna give you an example, I’ve got an alt cele engi. Does 650condition damage. Might stacks to a point where it’s close to 20, has loads of bombs and tools not to mention jump shot can hit up to 3k or more,skill 2 imob, skill4 knockback and etc. you know what I’m talking about if you’ve been in gw2 long enough. I didn’t ask for much damage but at least give us a little bit more sustain. Oh and thieves can’t stack might as much as this extremist with god forsaken high sustain(engineer). Rangers shouldn’t have a problem cause all they have to do is stay away from danger zones and pew themselves to victory. Thieves can barely take down good guards if they’re forced to 1v1. All I want is a bit more sustain without having to sacrifice much damage. I agree that thieves aren’t suppose to 1v1 and win all the time and that capturing points might be more important then again don’t you think it’s kind of unfair if a team containing 5 thieves can never win if they’re faced with experienced players.
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Thief isn’t dead in spvp it’s almost dead. The only reliable thing we do now is porting around making sure we out number our opponents and decaping as fast as possible. Any team shouldn’t have a problem with any thief as long as they coordinate themselves. sigh I main a thief for almost a year now. Anet please do something about this and give us a true buff for once.==PS: ricochet isn’t better than bountiful theft. Buff something else that’s useful.
Yeah that’s the build I ran for s/d today lol kinda happy to see others use it 2/0/2/4/6. Condition cleanse are just mandatory if you wanna stay longer in a fight. Not much point going all out 6 in acro.
D/D spvp. I understand that the meta choices are better and that running full SA is tough but just wanted to see some other d/d build in spvp(not condi based)
I tried running this build in spvp hotjoin and it worked great surprisingly. The only problems I faced were missing my CnD and builds with a lot of CCs other then that I was able to pull of a few outnumbered fights in spvp. I’ve never done something like that with d/p before. I’m just unsure whether to pick signet of shadows or signet of infiltrator. Getting pack runes now for wvw. Oh and do you think that I should go with p/d off set,p/p or short bow? All of it seems to work nice with d/d.
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Haha it’s me nephrite dude. If there’s one thing about me in gw2 is that I’m very aware about conditions cause you’ll never know when getting rid of a few conditions might mean life or death. I’lll challenge you again once I’m done with a few busy things^^
Hey dude http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQRAoa6al0MpwplOx7J0PNxORtdtFAHIXng3TRUcFA-TpBBwAG3fozRAAwJAgyDAYzBBocZAA What do you think about this build? XD standard d/p with more crits.
Life blast is a projectile btw, means it can be reflected. Always keep a stun break and avoid marks while applying enough pressure using ranged weapons like pistols or shortbow(cluster or poison)when they’re standing within their marks. Be aggressive like mango said once he’s out of death shroud or lich form. Only engage lich form when you know he is low enough to do so, because it hits like a truck. Please avoid life blast as much as possible when you’re facing a power necro. Oh and their dagger auto attacks usually will hit harder than yours, so just drop BP n stab them as much as possible by engaging and re engaging using ports like infiltrators signet,skill 3 on d/p n steal.
Life blast is a projectile btw, means it can be reflected. Always keep a stun break and avoid marks while applying enough pressure using ranged weapons like pistols and shortbow(cluster or poison). Be aggressive like mango said once he’s out of death shroud or lich form. Only engage lich form when you know he is low enough to do so, because it hits like a truck. Please avoid life blast as much as possible when you’re facing a power necro. Oh and their dagger auto attacks usually will hit harder than yours, so just drop BP n stab them as much as possible by engaging and re engaging using ports like infiltrators signet,skill 3 on d/p n steal.
There are videos made or the build you’re running. There’s even a d/d footage for that build if you continue to read down the forum.
Well I’ve been using the meta builds (0/6/2/0/6 or 6/0/2/0/6 zerk) for quite a while and thought of changing up to something new for a different type of sustain without going all in to shadow’s rejuvenation . I invested 4 in AB cause of feline grace, quick recovery and some vitality.I picked assassin’s amulet and ferocity over power & zerk for some more healing whenever I crit (that’s about 90 health each time I strike) from invigorating precision as for the sigils I agree that fire & air proc hits decently hard but it’s personal prev I can change the sigils anytime. I’ve never really liked the use of SB, it doesn’t seem to satisfy me in spvp majority of the time unless if I’m going against another thief. I’ll remake this build and go for a few rounds in pvp to see how it goes first. Oh and awesome video you did about p/p panic strike.
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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQRAoa6al0MpwplOx7J8PNxORtdA8AHInnwF05OcDA-TpBBABdcEAA4EA0y+DU8AAIvMwGHEAA
Just wanted to share with you a build I’ve recently created. Haven’t put it to use yet cause I think it still contains the potential to be deadlier that’s why it’s here to be influenced by other experienced thieves.
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I wander if other classes have forums like this.
Omg… Seriously?! == Guys, does a strong skill in every class have to be nerfed in order to satisfy everyone’s need?! I mean seriously. All classes have their own strength and weaknesses. Do you know how weak thieves are without Shadow’s Embrace if they decide to run a stealth build. Almost every thief runs at least 2 in SA(s/d & glass cannons are an exception). It’s one of our most important trait. Other traits for surviving conditions are just pure BS.
Made my day. I had to double check the date of the op, just to make sure nobody necrod.
Ok, you have problems to find a thief that is not running 6 points into acro and trickery? The same thieves with 16k backstabs and condi cleanse in stealth?
Yeah Anet plz. This is so op. I seriously don’t understand why the thief class is the only class that gets every patch huge buffs.
The Assassin’s Equilibrium buff alone. It last now 50% longer. That’s making thieves 50% stronger. Anet keep calm and take a look at the poor warrior.
XD I rarely see any thief in spvp using that trait.
Yup Carpboy is right, get strength runes.
facepalm to all the suckers who aren’t putting enough afford into learning how to counter the thief. People like this should just stay in pve.
It’s idiots like you who don’t put effort in learning how to game better. You really think landing CnD is such an easy thing to pull off? It cost around 6 initiative that’s almost half our initiative spent if we don’t place 3 points in trickery. FYI warriors have the mobility,toughness and the highest amount of CC if you run hammer and you tell me that thieves are OP? Not to mention that backstab is one of our only hard hitting burst skill. You guys have freaking eviscerate and hundred blades( land those two correctly and you can almost kill the thief in an instant). Blocks are also as good as evades. One last thing, did you know that rangers have the skill called sick em which does a 6 second reveal? it wrecks any stealth thief if they run a power build. Peow Peow just stop kittening around because I never go any other classes’s forums and build hate if they have any new OP cheese build. SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU
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Awesome video mango! And I truly agree with your statement d/d seems to be really limited if you miss a CnD. Thank you for helping to keep the thief class alive. I’ll give the build a shot in wvw and see how it goes.
PS: I main a thief that’s why I salute you for doing this.
Yeah rangers can be a pain in the kitten to fight against. Speaking about bad players, they stand no chance against condition thieves if the fight last long enough XD
Please stop whining. Evades are one of our only two options of defense. With the reveal debuff and the buff on rangers to screw us up there’s not much we can do. Plus that one more extra dodge or so won’t last forever== just time yourself right and initiative can be really unforgiving at times.
Ario XD thanks for stating that. Without stealth I feel like a sitting duck.
O.o has the potential to be a hybrid thief lol added 300 condi dmg. It doesn’t seem much but it’s still something:)
Thief’s mobility <3
My current build for spvp. What cha guys think abt it? http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoaVlsMpxpdPx0J8PNBNBxZNKhvh5L6GgZD-TpRAwAAOEAH3fwwRAg0JAAdZACPAAA
Check your gear bud. Lol had the same issue before.