Guild Wars 2

AoE disease was great in DAoC.

Good Idea however this would mean Anet would have to … you know … do something for WvW. I’m not holding my breath, they will probably make us wait months for this huge patch only to find out they added Minor sigils and runes only.

DeWolfe.2174:

Kill the enemy and tell your teammate to “Move!”. As there’s no time for kitten ing around in WvW!!!!!

I usually don’t even engage solo players at all. It’s simply not a cost effective way to spend your time in WvW. Though I do understand having something you wanted to do interrupted can be frustrating. I was in a fun 3v3 that became a 3v7’ish and it spoiled the fun. Though both sides were whispering and it was easy to find each other again.

This also, as rule our guild is not going to chase down a solo (unless it is someone we know, then you just gotta zerg them down and laugh together about it) however, if there’s a duel in our path were running over it, but were not going to chase after them and break formation if they decide to disengage and move.

Red is dead, tbh your kitten ed if you do and kitten ed if you don’t, you’ll either get backlash for adding on their “duel” or backlash for letting them die.

Same old story, Solo’s don’t want people to add, Small mans don’t want people to add, Guild groups don’t want people to add, and yet every single one of them will break this so called code in a heart beat.

Just kill whatever and move on while ignoring the QQ’s.

IsaacMolotov.9675:

Spurnshadow.3678:

Leveling in WvW is not a good idea. First, it is very slow. Second, you will die very fast and rally the enemy. This will be frustrating to you and to the people around you. If you are not on a T1 server, then this can take forever. Just wait until you’re 80.

As much as I hate to say it, as I’m totally against it, EotM is probably the fastest right now. I don’t consider it part of WvW.

PvP is probably the most fun to level as you can learn some things about your class that way, get loot, get tomes of knowledge. However, PvP is pretty limeted, especially towards the elementalist due to stat choices and the enemy classes and builds. You are going to have much more build diversity in WvW.

Thanks for the info! A couple of questions:

-What does “Rally the enemy” mean when I die?
-What is a “T1 server” and how can I tell there difference or if I am on one?
(By doing some searches I can see that T1 means more population?)

Rally, lets say your in a zerg (large group of people) and you clash with another zerg, chances are most of those players have tagged you (hit you with an attack), now lets say your zerg downs 10 of the enemy (by down I mean into downed state not fully dead) and then you get get killed (all the way dead), all those players on the enemy side that are downed will immediately rez and be back in the fight.

T1 servers are currently Jade Quarry, Tarnished Coast, and Blackgate. They havce the highest population/participation in WvW. In most cases on these servers they have around the clock coverage so there is no real dead time. T2 servers would be the next three servers below them and so on an so forth all the way to T8.

And here I give you the original post.

Your world association will be based on your participation throughout the tournament. If you play on multiple worlds during the tournament, the world you represented the most will be the one with which you are associated. We are adding a new Battle Historian NPC to all the WvW maps who will tell you which world you are associated with.

Nothing said about achievements, it states the world you rep’d the most, as in the world you played for the most. Perhaps next time you guys should be specific on how it works, your post is completely different from the original post. This is a perfect example of the communication gap between you (Anet) and your player base.

Thank you for answering the question in detail though, I’m assuming this is what we can base server association off of from this point on ?

Part of sieging is aiming and powering, this would make it far to easy to do both. There are times when that 1 or 2 shots that are off the mark makes a difference for those attacking/defending. It would also give you the advantage of seeing enemy numbers, and siege placement within the structure, now you can just aim and kill all the defences. Lets not make this game anymore easy.

Although it would be hilarious to gank you while your watching rocks fly.

Somewhere someone at Anet realized the player base has caught on, and we know their CDI’s are nothing more then smoke and mirrors to give us false hope.

They are currently coming up with a new method to make us think they care.

I’m with Carpboy on this one, who cares about the entangle, how do you have 54k health and half of its gone putting you somewhere in the 110k health range ?

Undertaker.2731:

“Tournament rewards for the World vs. World Spring 2014 Tournament will be available in the June 17th build. Once that build is live, you will be able to speak to the Battle Historian in any WvW map to get an updated tournament chest that has the correct rewards and number of tickets for your placement. Previously issued tickets will be voided with the build. Feel free to open any chests that you have already received now.
To thank you for your patience while we sorted out this bug, all players who completed the meta achievement will receive an additional 100 tickets.
Thank you once again for your understanding.”

I do not see how it is fair that the servers that ended up last place in the tournament now can get the mistforge hero’s weapon skin (ty to the extra 100 tickets) same as for example 2nd place servers. If i would of knowen that I would get one of those skins even if my servers sucks, i would of just did the achievments and relax. Dont get me wrong, i apreciate the gesture but in my opinion the “reward” for u guys being late wth the distribution should of been something else and not tickets that allow everybody now to have one of those skins. Before this i was like " kitten yes, i will have a skin that will be somewhat rare", NOW i am like " great another skin that everybody has".

Good Job!

This logic makes perfect sense because it was a completely fair tournament, all those servers at the bottom of the respective league totally stood a chance at beating stacked servers who had to let their numbers/coverage do the work.

Until they find a solution to make the “tournaments” actually fair whic h we all know will never happen then who cares what people get rewarded. Every server in the tournament played just as hard as the next, they should not be punished for a flaw in the system.

Aside from that, its a skin, who gives a kitten.

Honest question here,

How would it be any different from what we have now ? Bugs/exploits that have been around since beta, lopsided tower/keep placements to allow advantages to X color over Y color, glitches all over the place.

Seriously how would it be any different then the current maps ?

Just give up on it, we were told that they could probably at least color code them in the short term, that was how many month ago ?

Just expect them to neglect their game while Devon brainstorms something nobody asked for.

The system is kitten poor, GoM won every single match of the season in bronze and when the smoke cleared, SF who had a lower Glicko moved up. Now SF Glicko is rising, GoM’s is sinking, this is how server morale is destroyed, I’m not even on GoM and I feel bad for them. Stuck in Bronze when they busted their kitten and earned their way into silver only to have Anet slap them in the face and give it to another server that placed under them.

I understand why they add the randomness to the match up lottery but, they should make sure it does not affect those servers that should rightfully move up.

If you spend your time focusing on defending then they should be refreshed and there is no need for this thread. I’m thinking OP built siege, left tower/keep, and was mad because no one refreshed it while he/she was off enjoying the game rather then rotting in a tower/keep.

How close am I OP ?

DevonCarver.5370:

We’ve been discussing this a lot recently and we agree that something needs to change. When we have a change that we are ready to talk about we’ll make sure to make it known to everyone.

So instead of using your time to fix things that are legitimately broken, doing something with Commander tags/Commands, looking into ways to create more balance within the match ups, or improving the report system so you guys can actually do something about people exploiting, your going to fix something thats not broken.

Whats next ? adding more NPC’s to WvW landscape ?

Honestly PPT is only there to give the illusion of accomplishment, I think if you took PPT away now you would see a decline in participation. For me PPT means next to nothing but for many it is how they gauge their who is the better server, reality is PPT gauges who has the most participation for the week.

DAoC had RR’s and RA’s which gave purpose to a degree, it was the tread mill, some will argue that it was a flawed system. But for most there needs to be a reason other then fighting to participate and the WvW ranks are pretty lack luster.

Just ignore the PPT and have fun, or don’t ignore it and have fun, which ever is your cup of tea.

By far the most enjoyable times I have had playing this game came after transfering to DR. Great guilds, great people, great community, and full of dedication while still having fun. Were working hard to move up the ranks and look forward to facing new challenges.

Sick of toxic communities?

Join DR, you won’t be dissapointed.

Thank you all for the kind words. TBT is a great home, we are family and we have worked hard to get to where we are. We have accepted many new people into our ranks over the last few months many of which have bloomed into some of the best players I have had the pleasure to play along side of. If you are looking for a guild that plays extremely well together and is disciplined then give us a try, we accept new and expeirenced players, do not be intimidated. We do have some requirements, but they can be fulfilled by anyone who is willing to work together.

Give us a try, you won’t be dissapointed.

No offence but does it really matter when it comes out ? I’m surprised people still actually think they pay attention to the CDI’s, its a distraction to make you think they are listening. Look how productive the last ones have been, oh wait ……

If they spent time and money on underwater garbage rather than what people have been asking for for 2 years now they could kiss their game good bye.

Minimum of 30 min ? Most I have talked to (myself included) try to keep them 20 and under, most people lose their attention span after about 15.

Shonie.5297:

Nuzt.7894:

Why are people still arguing over this ? Its pretty aparent that some people think this is a great idea while others think its a terrible idea. Your not going to change the others mind.

Personally I like the server were on, the people are fun the community is great, if they were to merge servers who knows where we would end up. The potential to be paired with a toxic community or a server full of people you can’t stand for whatever reason is completely possible.

In the grand scheme of things it would be healthier for the game to have less servers with higher population but, it would not be healthy for many of the communities that would be destroyed by this process.

I wouldnt want the population/blob fest that is T1, been there done that. Anywhere from T5 – T3 is the sweet spot imo.

You need to stop thinking that everyone not on your server is a complete tool.
There are good and bad on every server.
And this is the internet, most people are out to ruin your experience in any fashion possible. It’s the goal of the newer generation. I’m assuming it’s mostly anger misdirected at the world the previous generation has left them, and I do agree to an extent, the world is a crappy place… but that’s another discussion…

But your point is equivalent to saying, that you have 5 friends and they’re great friends and it’s an impossibility that you can meet 5 more nice people and have 10 friends. The world outside your small group of 5 friends isn’t actually out to destroy you and although new people may be different, limiting yourself to not experiencing new things is not healthy. The status quo never remains so forever. Embrace change and a better way of doing things.

Mad Much or just arguing because your that guy who has to argue EVERYTHING because your so use to being wrong that if you just argue enough people will think your right ?

I never said everyone on my server is great people, the majority are, I’m sorry if your server has so many tools you feel that all servers are this way.

I’ll also point I out wasn’t arguing for or against the merge, I listed my concern, I also stated for the health of the game merging wouldnt be a bad thing.

Good job at not actually reading the post though, you sir ARE the tool most would like to avoid being paired with.

Why are people still arguing over this ? Its pretty aparent that some people think this is a great idea while others think its a terrible idea. Your not going to change the others mind.

Personally I like the server were on, the people are fun the community is great, if they were to merge servers who knows where we would end up. The potential to be paired with a toxic community or a server full of people you can’t stand for whatever reason is completely possible.

In the grand scheme of things it would be healthier for the game to have less servers with higher population but, it would not be healthy for many of the communities that would be destroyed by this process.

I wouldnt want the population/blob fest that is T1, been there done that. Anywhere from T5 – T3 is the sweet spot imo.

To be fair GoM has stated a few times that they wanted to move up, they got screwed by the random Glicko and SF got to move up instead so you can’t blame GoM for Anets system.

On the topic of superior numbers, yip they got them and we love them for it, its endless bags. I would much rather fight GoM then one of the lower servers who don’t even come out to play.

They will move up in the near future, take advantage of the fights while you can !

I’ll add, that I don’t know if the OP is FC or DR but if he/she is DR, they speak for themselves only not the server.

DR of course, you have played us and know what we are about. Make the move !

sillypants.5021:

Wow, you people seriously need to chill out. It’s impossible to avoid bugs when you are introducing new content and patches regularly. That’s just reality. You people who are telling Anet to do some testing are idiots. Do you really think when they get their first clean compile they just say, “Sweet, all done, let’s go live with it”?

If the shoe fits.

Erathill.1632:

Wow.. guys, really it is that big deal that you will get your reward a bit later? I also wait for mine but technical issues just happens. Maybe it’s someone’s mistake, maybe not- but still if you earn your tickets and didn’t get them by this mistake it’s nothing to worry about

Its not the rewards, its also not the case of making a mistake. Its a case of making several mistakes over and over, then expecting the community they neglect and ignore to understand and be positive. Maybe if they pretended to care about WvW once in awhile, people would be understanding.

So let me see if I’m understanding this because it really is unbelievable.

Some people STILL have not received their Season 1 rewards, months go by and Season 2 is announced, Season 2 comes to a close and shockingly there is an issue with the rewarding.

Meanwhile Season 1 rewards still have not been corrected for those that did not receive them, now your asking us to be patient while you fix the rewards for Season 2 … have I mentioned you still have an issue with Season 1 rewards ?

Seeing your time frame for fixing the Season 1 rewards I’m just going to say how do you plan on compensating us because apparently this fix is going to take months.

TBH, I don’t even care that much about the craptastic rewards because you either stacked and didn’t work for it and will receive top rewards or you busted your kitten for 9 weeks and get kitten. However the way you guys run your company and treat your customers is a complete and utter joke.

Everyone needs to calm down, they will fix it

In 3 months.

The truth is, broken promises and out right lies or they don’t even know how their own game runs. It was suppose to be gradual but seeing as that didn’t work they just go ahead and make up another excuse like “it depends on how much you achieved and on what server” which was never stated to begin with. Lets not even get into how they demoralize lower population servers even more every time they have a season “we know you don’t stand a chance, we know your going to work twice as hard as any other server in your league, but were still not going to give you anything worth while because we save the good stuff for the servers that don’t have to work for it”

Inc gaming breaking fix, everyone run for the hills !

They just gave us a 9 week season and part of the April 11 patch had to do with WvW surely that should tied us over for another 12 months so they can focus on PvE again because its been neglected for 24 hours.

Terrible idea, lets reward coverage and stacking even more, so those servers that fought hard even though they never really stood a chance to begin with get an extra slap in the face. No just no.

SleepingDragon.1596:

Preferred the idea of megaservers for WvW. I’ll use examples and say 20 servers on EU and 20 on NA. Paired the most populated server with the lowest populated server in their respective regions (NA/EU) as a team. Then paired teams of EU and NA teams into a pool consisting of 4 servers. 2 awards can be given out. First award is for regional such as NA & EU gets a rewards for winning. Then team awards for your cross Atlantic partners.

Rank #10 EU with #11 EU Rank (team 1)
Rank #1 NA with #20 NA Rank (team 1)
Rank #9 EU with #12 EU Rank (team 2)
Rank #2 NA with #19 NA Rank (team 2)
Rank #8 EU with #13 EU Rank (team 3)
Rank #3 NA with #18 NA Rank (team 3)
Rank #7 EU with #14 EU Rank (team 4)
Rank #4 NA with #17 NA Rank (team 4)
Rank #6 EU with #15 EU Rank (team 5)
Rank #5 NA with #16 NA Rank (team 5)
Rank #5 EU with #16 EU Rank (team 6)
Rank #6 NA with #15 NA Rank (team 6)
Rank #4 EU with #17 EU Rank (team 7)
Rank #7 NA with #14 NA Rank (team 7)
Rank #3 EU with #18 EU Rank (team
Rank #8 NA with #13 NA Rank (team
Rank #2 EU with #19 EU Rank (team 9)
Rank #9 NA with #12 NA Rank (team 9)
Rank #1 EU with #20 EU Rank (team 10)
Rank #10 NA with #11 NA Rank (team 10)

Yes, the pairing would not benefit overstacked servers and may alter the balance of power to middle tiers. It would also make servers cheer for their cross Atlantic pairings. Any swiss pairing is purely bad as it guarantees a few particular server(s) almost always getting a victory and not because of skill.

This type of format would be ideal to avoid Server Stacking/ Tanking / Severe 2 vs. 1. It would allow for Anet to go to its season 1 match up so every server fights every server in their league X times. Of course if transfers were opened they would have to be close and WvW participation would have to be watched for a couple weeks before determining teams. It would be easy to stack say Team 6 if you knew ahead of time which servers were going to be team 6 via ranking, so Anet would really have to pay attention in the weeks prior to assigning teams.

Jeknar.6184:

The most likely answer is that glicko is going to be the tie breaker… No one knows for sure tho.

They will remained tied for X position and receive the same rewards, is actually the most likely answer.

ammayhem.5962:

Aomine.5012:

Underwater combat is removed because some classes are inherently stronger than others under-water. For example, ranger, mesmer, and engineer.

Then perhaps Anet should balance the skills.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no really you should be a comedian.

Doesn’t solve the guildy issue unless your proposing they just wipe the slate clean and let everyone re choose. What if 1 guildy picks the wrong order ?

If all I had to do was choose at creation then meh sure why not but I would be concerned about the guild part of things.

I suppose guild leaders could choose an order to rep, which would default all guildies to that order when they are rep’ing that guild but then you would have the issue of people in multiple guilds rep’ing different orders.

bob.8632:

God no.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Free Transfers started the decline, to let them go on as long s they did … that was just stupidity at its finest.

No thanks, if this means I have to endure PvE in order to choose who I’m fighting for … I want nothing to do with it. Also I’m sure guildies have chosen different paths which is an issue.

The “Rightful Rankings” are exactly what they are in game, as per a swiss style everyone placed exactly where they should have.

If two servers tie for any placement they receive the same rewards as the other.

All of this has been covered and suggested, leave the poor horse alone its dead already. Anet has had plenty of time to implement this seeing as its been requested since release, don’t hold your breath.

Nice Website, GL SoR don’t fall into the depression state that some of the other fallen servers have fallen into. Keep fighting, now you don’t have the added pressure of T1 just enjoy the game.

HoD is a great guild, they were fun to fight when we were enemies and their fun to fight with as allies. They are taking their game to a new level and quickly becoming a dominant force in bronze, if your looking for a solid guild on DR they are a guild worth looking into.

I really like the new spinning rams, brilliant job. It is so much more enjoyable to watch the rams do continuous 360’s instead of … well you know … ramming the gates.

DR is a great server, very friendly bunch of folks. They hold numerous events throughout the week for their Community, and always are positive which is refreshing, do not see that on very many servers.

Also a very dedicated server to not only their community but also their match ups, I couldn’t be happier with the decision to join DR.

Just in case any devs actually read this, ties determined by glicko is a very cavemanish approach. Ties should be determined by count back if server A and B are tied and server B placed ahead of A when facing each other for the majority of the matches they were in together then B should place higher then A regardless of glicko.

I for one am glad someone finally took the time to research this and enlighten everyone with this small yet secretive piece of information. Up until this point I just figured T1 was hogging all of the skill.

Great server, having a lot of fun. The people are great and little to no Server drama.

Little something we through together for lawls.