Not sure I understand Mags(i know its not all of you) reasoning for wanting to move down. They like “farming”, but want to go faceroll the lower servers?
There’s some identity crisis going on in Mag I think.
Something like that, some of us think we’ll have low enough numbers to make T4 fun. It’ll be impossible to tell until it actually happens. Anecdotally speaking, we had a lot less people on during the reset (two maps with low queues instead of four maps). It could be low morale (what I believe) or people leaving (what other people believe), but two queues is (was?) about the population size at reset in T4.
I still think we would faceroll T4 and then cry halfway through the week about not wanting to go back to T3.
GODS and RET members really should not try to flame others. You guys are Maguuma’s #1 badge providers.
Woot plan worked.
And just like that we know who was on our forums trolling.
I wasn’t even trolling. You guys ekittens are so swollen all it takes is telling the cold hard truth to deflate you. FA has several guilds with severely bad open-field tactics. And when someone points that you guys turn on mean internet text mode and won’t even listen to someone who may offer advice. But if you want to continue to be the badge source of others go about your bidness.
Hahaha nice confirmed, yet again.
What made you post on our forums? Getting rolled 24/7?
What makes you think your trolling advice matters when we have fought better opponents who give us kudos?
Why you so mad bro? Its just a game.
I don’t think Zav was on your forums, he just misinterpreted what you said. He was saying he wasn’t trolling about his previous statement involving your open field combat.
I could ask him, probably. Mind linking your forums in a PM? I can probably figure out who it is.
Of course it was me lol.
And I wasn’t trolling. I was going to tell them what they were doing wrong but they took it all personal and QQed and turned on mean etext mode.
Oops, my bad. I guess it was Zav. Note: not representative of his guild.
GODS and RET members really should not try to flame others. You guys are Maguuma’s #1 badge providers.
Woot plan worked.
And just like that we know who was on our forums trolling.
I wasn’t even trolling. You guys ekittens are so swollen all it takes is telling the cold hard truth to deflate you. FA has several guilds with severely bad open-field tactics. And when someone points that you guys turn on mean internet text mode and won’t even listen to someone who may offer advice. But if you want to continue to be the badge source of others go about your bidness.
Hahaha nice confirmed, yet again.
What made you post on our forums? Getting rolled 24/7?
What makes you think your trolling advice matters when we have fought better opponents who give us kudos?
Why you so mad bro? Its just a game.
I don’t think Zav was on your forums, he just misinterpreted what you said. He was saying he wasn’t trolling about his previous statement involving your open field combat.
I could ask him, probably. Mind linking your forums in a PM? I can probably figure out who it is.
Yea I try to speak out against the trolls who are critical of players learning the ropes. I think more just need to speak out.
I don’t know if trolling is why people don’t follow commanders. I think most old Maguuma players are just so used to no icons that we auto pilot on what we should be doing based on that map, so sometimes icons get ignored.
That does happen especially when the threat isn’t great. But often times, new commanders are shamed and embarrased publicly so that they don’t leave their icon on. THey don’t end up leading much and learning much. The server is then dependent on the playing schedule of a few well known commanders. This is just to point out that there is an attitude issue with some players on Maguuma against newbies and it hurts the server in the long run.
Commanders shouldn’t turn on their icons when they want to learn. They should turn on their icons once they know what they’re doing.
erm, that doesn’t make sense whatsoever! How can a commander practice being a commander with out having a tag on that attracts not only his guildmembers, but also pugs?
We have a couple of commanders, that where new, but really good players and our community seems to feel at ease when they see commander icons in BL. Now i agree in EB, it gets a little crazy as there are like 4 to 8 commanders on and some of them i wouldn’t follow, because i don’t really know them. If i don’t wanna follow them just join a commanders squad or do whatever u like. Let them have their tag. Tag doesn’t mean to blindly follow.
While I agree that that sentence isn’t right, I think his real point was that when people new to WvW come in with icons and are very assertive in what they’re doing, even when it’s plainly a bad move, they’re doing it wrong. I’ve seen a few of these guys pop out of the woodwork and it’s really annoying. You don’t need to preach to us that we don’t need to blindly follow icons because we usually don’t, but there are almost always people who do follow icons blindly, and that is a net loss for us. New commanders need to admit that they are new and be willing to take advice, and they also need to not be so unknown to the WvW population to at least inspire some amount of confidence. For example, Montzor from NOVA is a pretty new commander, but I’ve seen him around so long that I know he’s at least a reasonable person. Some of the others? Not so much.
I agree completely with this, I was just pointing out that not everyone is as reasonable as you.
However, I don’t want to cause any drama. I was just pointing it out.
Maguuma has no tolerance for commanders trying to learn the rope.
This is actually true. I have 6 or 7 icons in my guild, and only 2 ever use them. Maguuma isn’t very friendly to new commanders.
I think 25 is a little too high, as 25 players can quickly take down a gate. 15 is a better number.
I agree, 15 would be a decent number. 15 people is hardly a zerg.
…but 15 doesn’t do what they want, which is to split up big zergs.
Eh, I could see it split up a 50 man into 3 15-20 mans. I’m okay with this.
No I just call it as I see it, you want to claim victory on the fact you are “superior in organization” when in reality it’s just numbers. Since the last time we were in t4 we lost 6-8 guilds. How many did you gain YB? YB skill level is about the same as Kaineing Pugs, get real here.
We had lost a few guilds to the bandwagon servers (DB, Kain, Mag) that moved through us on their way up but we did gain at least 3-4 new guilds (at least two Chilean guilds, one of a decent size) since then so we have probably stayed the same or very slightly increased in population.
Lol what guilds came to Maguuma?
wait… so is that guy claiming that someone on mag made a char, named it similarly to a commander on FA, then proceeded to buy a commander icon for that char, to lure unsuspecting nubs into the JP to get geared? LOL
this is better than the guy from emery bay claiming large guilds on mag were committing credit card fraud to fill their queue’s with spies.
We have large guilds on Mag?
The single greatest source of customer dissatisfaction in any arena is the feeling that you’re being ignored or aren’t important. ANet has raised this to an art form.
You are referring to Anet 2.0
Anet that was active during Gw1 before 2006~ was the best customer service I have experienced to this day.
It’s terrible that even Gaile Grey cannot communicate as she had in Gw1, either she is being suppressed from doing so; OR whoever makes the decision, decided that keeping an open line of communication is not necessary if your goal is to deceive for quick profits then back with false promises.
The gem store would have never happened in Gw1 because Gw1 was too busy trying to grow the amount of players in Gw rather than what will make more short-term profit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Nexon has had some say in the customer service/press department…
I pewpew all of your siege
I love that spot.
I don’t get these people acting like a little trash talking would unravel the fabric of society and send the entire world into chaos. Every other game I’ve played has been far more relaxed with their moderation, and somehow the world didn’t end. The forums were still active and enjoyable. The posters didn’t all turn into vicious savages. There is absolutely no need for the strictness of the moderation here.
Yeah. I played Darkfall… and the forums were much more enjoyable (probably the best part about the game). Even WoW has less strict mods.
Though fight clubs are usually fun, hopefully you don’t get a lot of takers from FA as we should be focused on trying to move back into T2.
No matter how many show up, it’ll be better than the Kaineng one.
FA trying to backcap Mags @ DB keep in eternal tonight.
Can you upload the rogue’s quarry video?
May I ask that you please include the part where our pugs joined and we wiped you with just a straight up push.
After you wiped 4 times, cleared all our siege with mortars, failed two portals, and over half of us went to do something else? Yeah, I guess you can brag about mindlessly throwing hordes of badges and bags at us until we had to drop a merchant.
Great post Invalid.
TBH I think ANET has too much on their plate and I think we’ll be lucky if we get any feedback from them on the well your noted points. They are pretty good at keeping us out of the loop when it comes to upcoming changes that are in progress. Lets hope for a nice suprise in March for WvW updates, I really don’t think we’ll see much this month.
Oddly enough, they were the polar opposite during the betas. Hell, I still have PMs from guildwars2guru from Anet staff.
I’m sorry, but SoS complaining about transfers and population is hilarious to me.
Just to be clear, “SoS” is not complaining about anything.
1 guy who plays on SoS seems to be. I’m pretty sure I can go to every server in the game and find someone saying something that doesn’t make sense….should I attribute one guy’s nonsense to the entire server?
Yes.
I’m glad that there are a lot of good points being made for both sides, and that this hasn’t devolved into personal attacks.
I like the idea of a positive forum atmosphere, I simply believe that trash talk can be included in that atmosphere.
I think, from reading the thread, people are voting “not fixed” as opposed to “not improved”.
I’m sorry, but SoS complaining about transfers and population is hilarious to me.
FA trying to backcap Mags @ DB keep in eternal tonight.
Can you upload the rogue’s quarry video?
Ill try. I don’t have any editing software, (or skills for that matter) and the badge farming at Rogues went 19 minutes. Gonna see if I can send it to someone and have them edit it down to a reasonable length.
Ask Deany
The entire Anet staff should be repurposed to fix CULLING! Until that’s fixed the game will suffer greatly.
Honestly, the new system has mostly fixed culling for me.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Culling-Poll-1327-votes-23-Better-64-Worse/page/5
It’s not scientific, however, I haven’t seen anything that points to an improvement in culling aside from a small minority of players.
I feel as if mist people voting in that poll are either mostly upset (people with no problems don’t come on forums to complain), or are suffering from confirmation bias.
I could be wrong, but the difference in culling has been extreme. Perhaps it’s a rendering issue for those still having problems?
FA trying to backcap Mags @ DB keep in eternal tonight.
Can you upload the rogue’s quarry video?
I’m sure posts are removed for legitimate reasons, per the ToS, I just think the ToS is too strict.
You know whats funny mag and db? FA is still winning no matter what you say or how much you complain that we are. So in other words we’re in your keeps taking your ppt and there is nothing you can do to stop us xD
You’re the HOPE commander? You’ve gotta teach me that “stand still in a big ball until you die” strategy.
Pretty fun day in Eternal today. A lot of great fights with FA.
=D
Stop acting like a 12-year-old if you object to being treated like one. Pretty simple.
honestly, I am glad that they prevent trash talking here. It’s annoying.
Because you are forced to read these forums, because you are a majority. Amirite?
Are you forced to act like a delinquent? No. Obey the rules. I think you can learn a little polity.
I’m not arguing that we shouldn’t obey the rules, I’m just saying that the rules seem to pigeonhold us into getting infracted… I mean, this is a very intense, competitive game mode. Like any sport, I feel as if we should be able to trash talk and show our pride.
I would love the rules for this forum to be laxed or reviewed.
Now on DB Borderland , all the credits to [RET], I was just at the right time to make the video.
Man, look at all the awesome PvP in that video!
NPCs are people too, guys.
Was there a mesmer hidden in SM for 3 hours? FA just got one in with no walls/gates down, and I trust our guys to sweep decently.
This is seemingly happening a lot. FA players should know what portals are legit.
Making a new trash talk folder area, not viewable without accepting the specific code of misconduct for that area is not a bad idea.
But then again the request is coming from gamers who do not wish to follow the code of conduct they signed to gain access to these exisiting forums.
Very likely people would post non trash talk posts and be infracted for breaching the new code of misconduct….
Works for me.
The entire Anet staff should be repurposed to fix CULLING! Until that’s fixed the game will suffer greatly.
Honestly, the new system has mostly fixed culling for me.
The PPT lead that Maguuma has proves that FA are godless un-American heathens. Praise Jesus.
I would love a score update.
I don’t understand where the idea that kitten talking is somehow part of the competition. People who win all the time, or at least frequently, don’t have to talk kitten because they have been there before and its nothing new. They don’t need the admiration of their victims or their enemies and they certainly don’t want to hear you cry about it after.
I’m better than you at this child’s game and would like to prove it when your consistent failure leads you to t3.
you guys shot up the server transfer charts! We salute you valiant accepter of masses of players!
God speed in your winnings
Awh, you remember us! <3
EBay, please win. I like you guys better than YB.
chillax mien. these things take time. Be happy with the fact thats it pretty deceant considering its free to play as well as they are coming from private instances.
be happy that culling affects both sides. could be worse where only 1 side was invisable.
rewards will come in time be patient.
The dynamic event reward is fine considering that they occur more often then reg pve events.
The dolyak guards are fine. supplies are suppose to be a weakpoint of the forts, otherwise itd be a nonstop siege/repairfest. guards harass people trying to solo yakkityyaks making it somewhat more complicated. want extra protection on supplies, escort them.
blueprint swapping is a bug.
sigh bigger maps but you complain about culling…. not even gonna touch
dont understand the rework npc one.
dont like the water, stay outof it.
bug indeed most likely in the works to being fixed.
agree on the outman buffs… lol that developer was asleep while deciding what buffs it would give.
The titles are fine. we dont need a system that rewards you for every minicle action that we do " look left, congrats !!!! you now recieved the left-dominate title!!" You only care about it becuase its not easy to get.
Number 1 post NA.
I’m all seriousness, though, I hope that at least some of the issues brought up here are covered soon.
Or…you could at least pretend you’ve been in a few fights and not run to the forums everytime you win one…
ps – if you didn’t play on Mordred you didn’t really play DAOC, you were a carebear (how’s that for kitten talk?)
That’s the spirit!
Just use unofficial forums? My guess is they have to try and keep a certain “standard” on their official forums or something.
If there was a popular kitten talking unofficial forum, I would be all over it.
I agree. Kittens are cute so why can’t we talk about kittens? They must love puppies.
However, if your talking about trash talking, its harmless but some people will always go too far. Best to keep it down low and be smarter with the trolling if you must.
But I don’t want to think.
I’m from Maguuma, and I’m pretty sure we hold the record for the most threads locked. I don’t say this to bait the mods (really, keep reading, I promise), or to kitten anyone off… but Maguuma really likes to kitten talk. As I’ve seen in our threads, so do a lot of other servers… however, on these forums, I feel like we’re almost set up for failure.
WvW is very nationalistic, in a sense. Tribe like, almost. You fight for your server and kill the bad guys. When you win fights, you want to brag, and when you lose, you want to QQ. Nowhere really provides an outlet for this, that I can tell. On these forums, if you talk about how you just wiped 50 noobs with half their numbers, you’ll get infracted. If you complain about an underhanded tactic, the same will happen.
I understand what the ToS says, I guess I just don’t understand why there can’t be a separate ToS for the WvW forums specifically. Mike Ferguson was a DAoC guy, and he should be able to relate to this… kitten talking is fun. Beating people is fun, even trolling is fun. Why can’t I brag when I win? Why can’t I rebuke someone else’s brag?
I’m not saying I hate the other servers… I don’t think anyone who kitten talks actually does. Maguuma is playing Fort Aspenwood and Dragonbrand right now, and I really like the communities on those two servers. I would, however, also like to be able to treat them the same way on the forums as I treat them in game, and I don’t have an outlet for that.
What else are we supposed to talk about on a forum like this, anyway?
Tl;dr – kitten talking is fun. Let us have fun. Or not. Thanks.
Welp Mag 1.5 would likely still stomp everyone in Tier 4 if they dropped.
You guys beat Yaks by 414,000 points last time. Even in an absolutely worst case scenario you would likely still beat Yaks opponents by 100k or more.
If you want fights…Tier 3 is where its at for you.
Yaks literally decided to not log on after the reset, so I don’t know if that’s a totally representative score.
Our population has quieted down a lot since t3. We had hours of 4 queue reset, and we get maybe 2 for an hour now. We were doing 2 queue weekday prime times and we get none now that I’ve seen.
As long as the guys that haven’t shown up for a month stay away we’re t4 pop now.
Our resets are still really strong. If we dropped to T4, all of the fairweather players would show up again miraculously, catapulting us back into T3, then promptly would stop playing for another month.
I think we have to accept that T3 is where we’re going to stay, and try to encourage those fairweather players to play with us here, or we’re just going to bounce back and forth. It’s not like they’re going to pay 35+ gold to transfer.
Here ya go….kids must be home from school due to presidents day.
It’s President’s Day? Man… my orgo professor never gives us President’s Day off.
Score update pwetty pwease anybody
Seconded.
A bunch of MAG wants to go down a tier…so they can have smaller fights, even though you are going to end up rolling over Tier 4 if you drop.
I doubt it. Mag has no idea how to win.
History doesn’t reflect that. Mag destroyed Yaks the last time they played. I can only imagine that if Mag drops, Yaks will go up…and Mag will be stuck with the servers that lost badly to Yaks….a server that couldn’t reach 100k the last time they played against Mag.
Eh, that was Mag 2.0. We’re more like Mag 1.5 now.
Edit: score update?
How bad was your exodus when free transfers were finished?
We were still winning on the 28th, I think, so I don’t believe the fairweather players left, just that they stopped playing.
A bunch of MAG wants to go down a tier…so they can have smaller fights, even though you are going to end up rolling over Tier 4 if you drop.
I doubt it. Mag has no idea how to win.
History doesn’t reflect that. Mag destroyed Yaks the last time they played. I can only imagine that if Mag drops, Yaks will go up…and Mag will be stuck with the servers that lost badly to Yaks….a server that couldn’t reach 100k the last time they played against Mag.
Eh, that was Mag 2.0. We’re more like Mag 1.5 now.
Edit: score update?
(edited by ParaldaWind.4523)
However, GODS seems to legitimately run with 40+.
This is true, although we usually split into 2-4 squads…sometimes coming together to form up and wipe a force that may be the same size or so.
ie. One squads runs into you head first, the other may flank around and do clean up.
Honestly though we are only 40+ on the reset/weekends. During the week it usually goes down…
It’s still very impressive, and leads to some good fights. Sometimes, however, playing against FA feels like the zombie apocalypse.
Big ups to BT and RET who have found out that the best way to beat a zerg is to be a zerg! Man i wish we could have learned that revolutionary guild tactic sooner.
[BT]‘s 15-20 has always looked like 40 to you guys hasn’t it? it’s all the pugs probably
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QKreO8zr95I
Considering Maguuma is 90% pugs, when we see guild groups bigger than half of an enemy zerg, we just lump them all together.
However, GODS seems to legitimately run with 40+.
As a guild leader on a very militia esque server, I wish I could run with a consistent 15. I only get those numbers on reset.
Edit: why isn’t that video available on mobile?
I hope Maguuma doesn’t have any anet employees, and I don’t think we do.
We had one for awhile named Squirtle. Cool guy, didn’t WvW.
Can we get a score update before this thread gets locked?
I wonder how long it’ll be until our server isn’t allowed to have match discussions anymore.
I have wondered this for a while myself.
Or more so, when they just make match threads against the rules entirely.Check out the BG/KN/TC Thread, prime example as to how Match Threads can go, positive mostly. Even SoR misses participating on the Forums with us, and other T1 server members would rather post in our thread than their own.
I actually hate that thread. What is online gaming without kitten talking and name calling? T2 is too polite. Maybe Mag should pay that thread a visit…
Really got to hand it to FA. They don’t have much in the way of individual skill, but the sheer size of the zergs they run makes it not even matter. Really tough opponents.
hahahahaha the D/D ele wants to talk about skill. Too bad we only have one opponent again this week, DB. Maybe if you guys spent as much time in the game as you do kitten talking on the forums and crying about everything under the sun you wouldnt be a joke and bad at video games.
Oh well, at least DB still puts up great fights and are worthy opponents.
hahahahaha FA zergling thinks that all it takes to win at D/D ele is press button. Too bad they are scared of engaging in any sort of PvP and would rather plink at doors all night long in balls of 30 than split up and find any sort of interesting fight.
sorry kiddo.. hardly a zergling, but then again to crybabies like you, anything over 4 people is a “zerg”. I’m actually rolling solo at the moment and laughing at the magoobers who just fumble their fat fingers on the keyboard. Keep being bad at video games though and thanks for the badges.
That’s nice so when would you like to duel?
never, this isn’t WoW kiddo.. i’m flipping camps and actually contributing to the effort of the server to win. you guys should try that.. wouldn’t be come in last ever week and they having to pull the ole’.. “well.. we want to go down so we’re not trying and don’t care” routine. Funny, for not caring you sure turn out for the first or second day and try ever so hard. Have fun with your carebear dueling though.
Lol. I know you’re an obvious troll, but there are very few players who can beat Tsarazi in a 1v1. I would really love to see you, or any forum troll, duel him.
Really got to hand it to FA. They don’t have much in the way of individual skill, but the sheer size of the zergs they run makes it not even matter. Really tough opponents.
hahahahaha the D/D ele wants to talk about skill. Too bad we only have one opponent again this week, DB. Maybe if you guys spent as much time in the game as you do kitten talking on the forums and crying about everything under the sun you wouldnt be a joke and bad at video games.
Oh well, at least DB still puts up great fights and are worthy opponents.
hahahahaha FA zergling thinks that all it takes to win at D/D ele is press button. Too bad they are scared of engaging in any sort of PvP and would rather plink at doors all night long in balls of 30 than split up and find any sort of interesting fight.
sorry kiddo.. hardly a zergling, but then again to crybabies like you, anything over 4 people is a “zerg”. I’m actually rolling solo at the moment and laughing at the magoobers who just fumble their fat fingers on the keyboard. Keep being bad at video games though and thanks for the badges.
That’s nice so when would you like to duel?
Let’s keep it civil folks and see some great fights.