Guild Wars 2

flow.6043:

I feel like you two are talking past each other.
Let me clarify a few things for you:
There are conditions and control effects. Then there is CC (crowd control) wich can be both a condition (frozen, cripple, immobilize..) and a control effect (aka hard CC because all of them lock all your skills over the time of their duration).
And yes, fear is in fact both (condition and ce), meaning that it can be cleared by both condition removal as well as stun breaks, only when cast by an ally of course.

Thank you, this is the point I was trying to make.

Pve mechanic complexity in this game is inexistant. There is not need to cc anything, to dispel anything and so on. Bleed cap also make condition profession like …. ranger, engineer, and necromancer – the irony- less appealing, and let’s not forget how useless conditions are for the moment in pve outside fractal. Pve needs to encourage control and support more. Boss mechanics, in general, should encourage profession to use, for example, poison to control healing, or chill to control a huge cooldown. Dispel should be more relevant. For now, I don’t think those classes you listed are underpowered, the mechanic itself is lacking, and seems to encourage straightfoward dps instead of synergy among the professions.

Note: You guys are missing Vayne point, and making hasty assumptions. It feels like your comments aim to make people uncomfortable. Some of you don’t seem to be able to express your opinion without turning into some kind of “attack”. And as soon as he answers back, you start calling him “hypocritical” (note the quote), and accusing him of repeating himself (God, rly??)..

But hey, if that’s the way you entertain yourself, keep on doing it.

Oranisagu.3706:

when I started learning CoF 1 speedruns with my mesmer I did quite a few of the mistakes you mentioned as well and now I wonder why they didn’t kick me, my first run was abysmal (I think it took us about 12 minutes). I didn’t pull the doorguards, didn’t time feedback correctly on towers (warden doesn’t work quite so well because the aoes often land just next to him), didn’t pull slave driver etc.. if I had been kicked, I would’ve thought: hey, I did something wrong, better check what to improve (did this anyway), instead of going on the forums whining that I can’t play badly in a group without getting kicked.

if you join a speedrunning group with specific requirements you shouldn’t be surprised to be kicked if you join and play badly by not knowing when to do what. it only takes a few runs and maybe watching a few videos to know all the absolute obligations a mesmer has, as well as a few of the ‘nice to have’ stuff you can provide.

if you can’t play on the same level of the 4 other guys, why do you think they should keep you in the group? carrying a bad player was never fun. this has nothing to do with elitism but with you thinking you’re better than you are and joining a group you don’t belong in yet. it’s the only way to learn, but you have to expect to be kicked a few times until you get your skills up to a ‘usable’ level.

also, these forums are rather helpful if instead of whining you just ask: hey, I’m new to speedrunning CoF1, what should I do as a mesmer? I hijacked one thread and got so many useful tips (and a few build discussions).. now I never get kicked and some people actually take the time to whisper how they like my playstyle. for me that’s pretty nice, meaning I did my job well enough for them to recognize an improvement over other mesmers they grouped with in the past. also, for me, this is a lot more rewarding than going to the forums complaining about elitism.

but I do agree that people should be more willing to say a few words to improve each others gameplay (I often have to remind warris to use fGJ at the start of slavedriver so SoI works better) instead of blindly kicking. it’s just, when you see someone who doesn’t know what he’s doing at all, it takes at least 10 minutes overall to fully explain each sequence in detail (explain someone when to use feedback on effigy, how the animation looks etc).. this is a lot more than a few seconds for a quick reminder.

Did you read Op post???

Starbird.4029:

Man..as a newcomer, if this is what I can look forward to at the endgame, I may as well just quit now :|

They represent a realy small sample of gw2 community. So no biggie, you’ll be alright as long as you avoid them

Now that you brought this up. Why would someone who I don’t even know with only 1 achievment point, and an inappropriate name add me in his friend list?

Syeria.4812:

Star Ace.5207:

Syeria.4812:

Star Ace.5207:

You should be aware that people have different personality types, and therefore, while you didn’t mean to hurt their feelings by just wanting to be “efficient”, by actually hurting/offending another human being, even if you wouldn’t be yourself. In your view, It’s his/her problem, but he/she didn’t choose which type of personality he/she would have. So in short, not caring about others feelings because that’s not your forte (feelings) doesn’t mean that the other person is in the wrong for feeling mistreated, because that’s probably part of his/her personality and who he/she is. That player “hurting” you because of “wasting your time”, especially when unwillingly, is not on the same of level of you mistreating him/her unfairly because you have specific elitist criteria to be met that he/she may not possess (at least in your eyes, for who knows, that player may be really even better than you at GW2.)

If the person was bullying your party, by intentionally slowing your group down, then I understand about kicking someone. That’s him/her being annoying. But because of gear/build/playstyle/mistakes/still learning the instance/“wrong profession”, it’s totally unwarranted. Your time is valuable-but so are their feelings (I.E. you should learn to coexist.)

And I didn’t choose their personality either. Put simply, it is not my problem. It has never been my problem. It will never be my problem.

You (personally) clearly have a complete and utter lack of respect for other people, their lives, and their time. Just because someone whom I’ve never met and will never meet has a personal problem which is wholly and completely unrelated to me in any fashion does not mean that they automatically have some sort of right to my time, my effort, or anything from me. Maybe they have a serious psychological issue. Then they should discuss with their psychiatrist whether or not they should be playing Guild Wars 2. Their behavior is harming people around them, and they need to take responsibility for their actions.

Not being like you is not a psychological disorder. This is why I said that you need to study more about how different people can be, and that it’s OK for them to be so.

In short, being you is OK, but should let others be themselves. In your eyes, people should behave and act as you think they should: as you would, and not as they were meant to-like themselves.

A player is right to feel mistreated if treated callously and disrespectfully, especially unfairly, which is almost always the case for that to be true.

Yawn. That’s a lovely strawman you came up with there. Did you have fun with it?

Seems you need the situation explained to you better:

Your position – Extremely sensitive peoples’ feelings are the single most important thing in the entire world, and anything that may or may not incidentally harm them (held to the standard of the most sensitive person in the entire game, rather than to a “normal,” average, median, or even nth percentile measure) is far more important than any possible motivation behind the action.

Rational position – There’s no responsibility for every single individual in the world to break their back in order to ensure extremely insecure people don’t perceive horrible offenses being committed against them around every corner.

The fact of the matter is the enjoyment of the game by 4 people in a party is more valuable than the enjoyment by the 1 remaining person in the party. Groups in Guild Wars 2 are extremely informal arrangements where people try work together for a common goal. If things aren’t working out, they’re not working out and the informal arrangement should be broken. If you’re driving somewhere with someone and they suggest you take a shortcut, but it becomes immediately apparent that taking that shortcut is going to damage your vehicle, you should turn around and go the other way. Even though not taking the shortcut might hurt that person’s feelings, no rational person is going to seriously risk their life and property just to ensure that person’s feelings are protected, and that’s when dealing with someone they presumably actually know and care about for other reasons.

I know it’s hip and cool to be “empathetic” and “concerned” but to people actually capable of coherent thought, it’s pretty clear those people are just pretentious kittens who think far too highly of themselves.

“Pretentious kittens who think far too highly of themselves”
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“Yawn. That’s a lovely strawman you came up with there. Did you have fun with it?”

Mindblow O.o

Rewiinded.9401:

Personally, although people might hate me for saying this, I think they should implement phasing just like Blizzard did. It’s the ideal solution for supplying temporary content that can only be done once whilst combining it with the fact that new players can do it also.

But it also separate the community. Go figure why every Wow zones with phasing feel empty. In the other hand, maybe they will eventually make a time traveler character who will let us do the events we missed. They could also make it gemmes based just so it won’t be exploited. Just an idea.

dejay.2598:

Poplolita.2638:

Sprawl.3891:

Poplolita.2638:

Sprawl.3891:

stof.9341:

It’s not the number of wins that matter but the quality of those.

sorry but if 7 wins against top level teams puts you top 50 then their rating system is horrid. Take WoW for example, you start at 1500 rating. Even if you played the #1 team and beat them over and over it would take you 50+ games to get top 50.

seriously. 7 Wins, 4 Losses.

I’m not sure you should use Wow rating system as an example as you clearly don’t know how it works.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1820952130

so it changed slightly and starts at 0 now vs 1500 before. did you even read that? it would still take 100s of games to get top 50. going 7-4 vs top team would out you at 700 rating in that system lol with top teams around 2800

It wouldn’t take 100 games to be top 50…

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/tichondrius/3v3/travel%20form%20paw/
rank 4 40win-4 loss.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/tichondrius/3v3/full%20feared%20cdew%20LOL%20JK/
Only 30 matches played… rank 15

Now, if you are unable to make a a cohesive and accurate conclusion with this. Then… I fear for the humanity.

the odd are very highly against this person only queing vs.. let’s say top 20 people for those 11 games

also highly unlikely he would actually win unless it’s a new account

~edit – even if that is the case, the system sucks if you can progress that quickly – yeah there should be variance but not that high. even if the population is painfully low

Good. And I completly agree with you. I only responded to him to tell him that he shouldn’t use wow system as an example to follow when it clearly has some flaws. See first post.

Sprawl.3891:

Poplolita.2638:

Sprawl.3891:

stof.9341:

It’s not the number of wins that matter but the quality of those.

sorry but if 7 wins against top level teams puts you top 50 then their rating system is horrid. Take WoW for example, you start at 1500 rating. Even if you played the #1 team and beat them over and over it would take you 50+ games to get top 50.

seriously. 7 Wins, 4 Losses.

I’m not sure you should use Wow rating system as an example as you clearly don’t know how it works.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1820952130

so it changed slightly and starts at 0 now vs 1500 before. did you even read that? it would still take 100s of games to get top 50. going 7-4 vs top team would out you at 700 rating in that system lol with top teams around 2800

It wouldn’t take 100 games to be top 50…

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/tichondrius/3v3/travel%20form%20paw/
rank 4 40win-4 loss.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/tichondrius/3v3/full%20feared%20cdew%20LOL%20JK/
Only 30 matches played… rank 15

Now, if you are unable to make a a cohesive and accurate conclusion with this. Then… I fear for the humanity.

“going 7-4 vs top team would out you at 700 rating in that system lol with top teams around 2800”

You still don’t know how mmr works. Read it again.

Sprawl.3891:

stof.9341:

It’s not the number of wins that matter but the quality of those.

sorry but if 7 wins against top level teams puts you top 50 then their rating system is horrid. Take WoW for example, you start at 1500 rating. Even if you played the #1 team and beat them over and over it would take you 50+ games to get top 50.

seriously. 7 Wins, 4 Losses.

I’m not sure you should use Wow rating system as an example as you clearly don’t know how it works.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1820952130

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Welcome to Ascalon, the Citadel of Flame is this way.

Choose your path. Path 1-Path 1-Path1.

Bas.7406:

Actually the first question that should be asked is what are you using this build for? PVE, WVWVW, or PVP and then ask yourself what do you want to do with the build.

Read the tittle. ^^

Edit: Andele said it all.

Nappychappy.7046:

Mirta.5029:

2. How can this be an opinion? Pointing out the fact that Paladin is getting CONSTANTLY buffed and Druid is getting CONSTANTLY nerfed.
3. Better loot drop rate is also not an opinion having in mind that we can take and compare WoW drop rates and GW2 drop rates. WoW has very low drop rates and does actually admit it.
8. Not true remember the way WoW was in the past, therefore can not stand as an opinion either.

2. Math.
3. Luck.
8. Mouth breathers.

Nice try! We know now you’re a sexy troll <3

imo, the only thing that wow has over gw2 is this:

Nappychappy.7046:

Poplolita.2638:

Sound like a burn out. Slow down and relax.

Sounds more like disregard of peoples time. Something really wrong with this game is the lack of reward, let’s be honest here, time is the commodity. ANet want’s people to play and support the game via RMT, but is so stingy people end up leaving in frustration. I know I’d never get a FotM weapon, I got bored running it a handful of times – absolutely mind numbing imo, but I digress.

RNG will not keep people happy, especially when it’s RNG wrapped in RNG with sprinkles of RNG on the top, packed in a nice little RNG box.

I agree.

Calae.1738:

Poplolita.2638:

Kravick.4906:

Poplolita.2638:

RebelYell.7132:

Poplolita.2638:

Sound like a burn out. Slow down and relax.

Real the OP more closely. The RNG is what’s forcing him to play more. If it was fixed, he may well be able to “slow down”, as you so tactfully put it.

I did. It’s a burn out, and he should relax and slow down, eventually he’ll get what he so dearly want. RNG doesn’t force anyone to play more.

Yeah actually, it kinda does. If you’re looking for a specific skin and it never drops, you’ll need to continue doing it until it does. RNG in video games is notoriously bad for this sort of thing as well because there is no such thing as true RNG with computers.

This is why I’m telling him to relax and slow down.

Telling him to relax and slow down is like telling an alcoholic to drink less alcohol. The solution for him is to stop cold turkey. If you study variable ratio reward schedules in psychology you would learn that the subject (if predisposed to psychological addictions) is very likely to keep repeating the same task until the reward is received.

Yes I know. But it’ll be great for you to take note that we’re not in rl context, we’re in a forum, I can’t appropriatly and directly help him. Telling him to relax and slow down is really the only thing I can do for him, relevant or not.

Thank you.

I still have this bug. It’s been 4 months now…

Yes… now letscomplainaboutcatsplz

Kravick.4906:

Poplolita.2638:

RebelYell.7132:

Poplolita.2638:

Sound like a burn out. Slow down and relax.

Real the OP more closely. The RNG is what’s forcing him to play more. If it was fixed, he may well be able to “slow down”, as you so tactfully put it.

I did. It’s a burn out, and he should relax and slow down, eventually he’ll get what he so dearly want. RNG doesn’t force anyone to play more.

Yeah actually, it kinda does. If you’re looking for a specific skin and it never drops, you’ll need to continue doing it until it does. RNG in video games is notoriously bad for this sort of thing as well because there is no such thing as true RNG with computers.

This is why I’m telling him to relax and slow down.

RebelYell.7132:

Poplolita.2638:

Sound like a burn out. Slow down and relax.

Real the OP more closely. The RNG is what’s forcing him to play more. If it was fixed, he may well be able to “slow down”, as you so tactfully put it.

I did. It’s a burn out, and he should relax and slow down, eventually he’ll get what he so dearly want. RNG doesn’t force anyone to play more.

Sound like a burn out. Slow down and relax.

What is this? I don’t even… /close the book

Elves? Never heard of it.

Krosslite.1950:

per your user agreement:

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reverse engineer, translate, adapt, disassemble, decompile, or reduce to any human-perceivable form, any Software or parts thereof;
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Ty for sharing this, Krosslite. Now we know AreneNet will not allow addons in their game which is a good thing.

Conncept.7638:

People waste revive orbs on this? Just log-out mid fall then log back in and you’ll be at the bottom. Only place it doesn’t work is in instances.

Actually, I didn’t use revive orbs. If you click a waypoint before you land, it bugs out, and you appear in the same location minus the fallling damage. That’s what I did.

Doggie.3184:

Poplolita.2638:

Doggie.3184:

Y’know you can close the chatbox by clicking the little thingy on the top right~

Yes, I knew this since I started playing gw2 4 months ago. If you felt the need to post this, I would like you to push even further your reasoning, maybe you’ll find the true answer. I’d gladly read the rest of it.

I’m trying to save your life. Please be more appreciative.

Oh then, thank you Doggie, I already knew that.

Doggie.3184:

Y’know you can close the chatbox by clicking the little thingy on the top right~

Yes, I knew this since I started playing gw2 4 months ago. If you felt the need to post this, I would like you to push even further your reasoning, maybe you’ll find the true answer. I’d gladly read the rest of it.

I did something bad – not going to tell you what exactly, I don’t want to get banned! I got in jail in Rata Sum ! I just wanted to share this with you.

PinCushion.7390:

Wow! I know this is the Necro forums, but we don’t have to raise every shambling corpse of a thread from the bowels of the forum’s history! Let it die!

Did you want me to make a new thread about the same subject instead? I still don’t feel fear is where it should be for necromancer, this is why I felt the need to revive this thread. The debate is still not done yet just by looking the recent responses it just got.

Necromancer needs something unique that sets them appart from other professions beside DS and epidimic. And fear should be one of them.

The adventure box! http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7267/Guild-Wars-2-The-Super-Adventure-Box-Revealed.html

You should probably stop Puging and get in a real guild real quick then. Complaining about a Pug not being experienced or lying about his experience? Rly?… geezz

tolunart.2095:

- Send everyone on the server 10 gold.

- Get banned by Anet as a gold seller because who else is going to have that much?

- Die of malnutrition because you haven’t gotten out of your chair in six months and have been living on the nachos and beer that your friends bring over every weekend.

- Realize that if you put that much effort into Real Life you’d be married with a kid on the way and a have a decent-paying job by now.

- Take a shower already! Geesh! (Also recommended for working on Real Life, above)

- Uninstall and play another game because after this everything just gets too boring.

It made me giggle in rl actually! +1

Ooshi.8607:

Vayne.8563:

You’d have to implement it on a PvP server, which doesn’t exist. It would be one more thing for Anet to fix bugs on, I’d rather have them working on the core game than add this sort of thing to the game for the small percentage of people who want it…and it is a small percentage.

In every game that offers it, people eventually end up moving to PVe servers, and don’t bother with PvP servers. There’ll be a couple of PvP servers but almost all of them will be Pve.

I don’t see why Anet should spent their resources. Once they make that server, it has to be maintained and then people will start complaining about specific issues…not a great idea.

How do you reach those conclusions?
40% of the servers on WoW are PvP servers.
43 out of 50 of the top EU servers are PvP.
38 out of 50 of the top US servers are PvP.

These are figures that are readily available for anyone to see. Unless you have a reason to suspect that the Guild Wars 2 playing population has a completely different bias regarding PvP I don’t really see how you can maintain you assertions that it is a small percentage of people that want it.

And again, if something like this where to be implemented in would have to be on a specific PvP server. It would not affect the PvE-only player in any way shape or form.

It would be a lot smarter to say that GW2 doesn’t have factions and as such doesn’t support this type of gameplay, although if they wanted to implement it they could go with something like the Luxon/Kurzick factions in GW1.

I for one never ganked anyone in the sense that I’ve never went with a high level character into a low level area to hunt, but how I miss being ganked while fighting a mob and then proceding to kill the mob and kill the ganker, or many times dyeing to the ganker, but that would be alright as well, that was what I signed up for when I rolled into a PvP server.
Or how I miss when a battle between 2 people would grow into massive impromptu battles between 100-200 people.
Small things like you knowing that because guild [xyz] always ganks and camps, so every time you see a group of them you make sure to organize a group of your own faction to chase them away and protect lower level areas.
Every one starts kittening about low level gankers every time one of these threads comes up, but no one seems to remember the loads of people that went with their high levels characters and patrolled and protected these areas.
Overall I just feel that a PvP server by it’s very nature encourages a more close knit community. We might hate each other in some cases, but at least we interact with one another.

And no, WvW is not the same thing.

And of course, you don’t take those servers faction inbalance into account…. World Pvp is inexistant in Illidan, Kel’Thuzad, Arthas, Darkspear to name a few, and those are the top US server!… Go figure. Therefore, your argument is irrelevant.

The vache Qui rit!! The laughing cow in english or “Le” laughing cow ^^

Jski.6180:

They are still humans lol some are just like that. I think the worst communities is still LoL or WoW.

This and this and so this. If you don’t block trade chat in wow main city for example… you’ll witness the worst of the human kind.

“all about someones own selfish desires”

Edit: I hope it felt good to evacuate all your anger ^^

Another one of those…

Vayne.8563:

So many people aren’t in guilds it’s not funny. You see it on the forums all the time. People have trouble with pugs, I suggest joining a guild and people say they don’t want to. They don’t have time or they don’t like people, or they like to meet random people. I don’t get it.

I’d say a much larger percentage of people in this game don’t have a guild than you’d think. which is why it worked.

You don’t get it? I’m sure that you already know the answer, hopefully, but I’ll answer it anyway. Not everyone playstyle is the same!

Yes, thank you arenaNet, I was actually impressed to be honest.

0/10, too obvious.

clay.7849:

Poplolita.2638:

clay.7849:

Poplolita.2638:

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clay and shootsfoot, when are you going to marry?

Why didn’t you start off with a grade school rhyme too. What are you 10?

It was a joke.

I get that it was a joke. It just wouldn’t be funny for anyone over the age of 10.

When someone doesn’t get a joke, and then uses age to insult me. It really shows me how low his level of maturity really is.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Poplolita.2638:

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clay and shootsfoot, when are you going to marry?

No clue what you meant by that, but if it was an attempt at an insult, well…didn’t work.

It didn’t work because it wasn’t an attempt at an insult at all. If you didn’t get the joke, so be it. If you read your responses to clay posts closely, you’ll see where It really comes from.

clay.7849:

Poplolita.2638:

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clay and shootsfoot, when are you going to marry?

Why didn’t you start off with a grade school rhyme too. What are you 10?

It was a joke.
Edit: When someone doesn’t get a joke, and then uses age to insult me. It really shows me how low his level of maturity really is.

Zepidel.5349:

whats the point in running fractals after you got your rings + backpeice + infused? I think it only took lvl 30 (running 26/10 dailies aswell) to get to that point. I was about fed up with fractals at lvl 10 for christ sakes.

Some people play the game for fun. Or to challenge themselves.

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clay and shootsfoot, when are you going to marry?

What about necro? Are they that bad currently?

Larynx.2453:

Rika.7249:

milo.6942:

Reinhart.2703:

Rika.7249:

I’m all for adding arenas.
I’m totally against adding dedicated healers.

I do not think it is possible with out healers. or some sort of heal from outside otherwise it will be greatly imbalanced due to gimmicky specs

CC will become the new healers.

This.

Look at WoW’s 5v5 for reference.
No need for a healer at all. Just pick your target and kitten it.

3v3 was roughly the same too. Pick a target, kitten avoid being kitten

It could definitely work. Just not with the current bunker spec-strength.

Hardly. Unless you run a heavy burst comp like RMP 3v3 matches are going to be more so a war of a attrition than anything. Especially something like Warlock/Shaman/Priest, or really any warlock comp.

A healer in WoW can out heal 2 DPS easily if the healer is receiving no pressure, which is why a team like RMP can kill someone in the first minute. Since GW2 both lacks healers and long duration CC, it won’t work exactly like this though. I don’t think WoW is at all a good comparison for how arena would work in GW2. The combat mechanics are vastly different.

Bunkers would be a problem in GW2, since two DPS will have a fairly difficult time killing 2 bunkers though. It’s not in WoW since, well, 2 DPS can kill two healers or tanks provided they aren’t hard countered or anything. That would probably be a huge barrier for arena tbh, and GW2 can’t exactly ban certain builds since builds aren’t cookie cutter as WoW talent trees either. I also realize the only reason people would run 2 bunker in 2v2 would be to troll, but regardless it’s not fun for the other players even if it would be low MMR. Obvious solution would be to just nerf bunker strength of course, but I’m skeptical on how much ArenaNet are willing to change their conquest format.

Hmmm… you obviously didn’t get mist of pandaria.

Larynx.2453:

Poplolita.2638:

Larynx.2453:

Poplolita.2638:

Larynx.2453:

Poplolita.2638:

Lukin.4061:

People still complain about thieves? Hearsteeker spamming thieves nonetheless? Do you get killed by 100b war too? Overall his post was a long qq about thieves and mesmers, also HEALERS – are you insane? It is the worst thing in any game, people with no skill can actually defeat a better player just by having a pocket healer? Balance in this game is ALOT better than in wow, but I have noticed in the videos you play a DK, probably the most overpowered class when it came, so explaining balance for you would not be easy, so I will not even try.

I agree with some points – this game actually needed more modes, duels, arena, ctf all the generic ones, because it would have almost any build viable for pvp, since in different modes you need different things, for example you could find that a trap thief can actually be useful in CTF, etc. Arena matches would be too fast? It should take 20 minutes like in wow 2×2 arenas when going healer+dps against same team?

So in conclusion:
1. Game needs more pvp modes
2. Game DOES NOT (!!!) need healers
3. Balance is ok, but still needs work (but not with professions you have mentioned).

Lucka, 2×2 arenas are not competitive in Wow, they are like duels, 3v3 is the kitten, it usally lasst 30sec to 5min depending of what comp you run. Depending of what comp you are running. And this is where it gets interresting, any comp with a dk last 2min max! How ironic…

I have fond memories of Melee/Healer vs Melee/Healer 2v2 45 minute games.

Especially when both DPS die.

I was referring to 3v3… not 2v2.

I have at least an 8th grade literary comprehension, I assure you.

Apparently not: 3v3 is the kitten, it usally lasst 30sec to 5min depending of what comp you run. And this is where it gets interresting, any comp with a dk last 2min max! How ironic…

I have fond memories of Melee/Healer vs Melee/Healer 2v2 45 minute games.

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What are you trying to say? It doesn’t have anything to do with what a posted. I’m talking about 3v3, not 2v2.

Larynx.2453:

Poplolita.2638:

Larynx.2453:

Poplolita.2638:

Lukin.4061:

People still complain about thieves? Hearsteeker spamming thieves nonetheless? Do you get killed by 100b war too? Overall his post was a long qq about thieves and mesmers, also HEALERS – are you insane? It is the worst thing in any game, people with no skill can actually defeat a better player just by having a pocket healer? Balance in this game is ALOT better than in wow, but I have noticed in the videos you play a DK, probably the most overpowered class when it came, so explaining balance for you would not be easy, so I will not even try.

I agree with some points – this game actually needed more modes, duels, arena, ctf all the generic ones, because it would have almost any build viable for pvp, since in different modes you need different things, for example you could find that a trap thief can actually be useful in CTF, etc. Arena matches would be too fast? It should take 20 minutes like in wow 2×2 arenas when going healer+dps against same team?

So in conclusion:
1. Game needs more pvp modes
2. Game DOES NOT (!!!) need healers
3. Balance is ok, but still needs work (but not with professions you have mentioned).

Lucka, 2×2 arenas are not competitive in Wow, they are like duels, 3v3 is the kitten, it usally lasst 30sec to 5min depending of what comp you run. Depending of what comp you are running. And this is where it gets interresting, any comp with a dk last 2min max! How ironic…

I have fond memories of Melee/Healer vs Melee/Healer 2v2 45 minute games.

Especially when both DPS die.

I was referring to 3v3… not 2v2.

I have at least an 8th grade literary comprehension, I assure you.

Apparently not: 3v3 is the kitten, it usally lasst 30sec to 5min depending of what comp you run. And this is where it gets interresting, any comp with a dk last 2min max! How ironic…