People should learn to think about who they are following rather than expect Anet to provide them with a little icon to tell them who is worth following.
It does not matter what you require in payment for the commander icon. You can do gold, badges, kill counts, time in PvP, keeps taken, towers defended, a note from your mom…it doesn’t matter…some commanders will still suck and will not be worth following.
Make another tag for WvW then? I don’t know what to tell you. Someone that doesn’t have at least 2000 badges of honor to spend on a tag should not be leading troops in WvW.
Once again..SoS guilds couldn’t even handle losing for the number of weeks they won in a row…that doesn’t say much about you guys, in my opinion. You can make any excuse you like, but in my eyes you are jumping ship because you aren’t winning, simple as that. Good luck on Blackgate, I hope the weather fares better for you there.
I’m honestly disappointed in all of the people transferring from SoS.
As I said in the other thread, we play the game to have fun. WvW was not and has not been fun for a while now. Enjoy your complete lack of NA coverage and PvDooring Tier 3 keeps from breakout events.
Strange….the game became less fun for so many hardcore pvp guilds when JQ got bigger and started winning.
Guilds on SoS can’t even stand to lose as many weeks as they won.
Say what you will about JQ, but at least the core guilds don’t hop around searching for greener grass. At least not that I recall. jQ didn’t fall about just because we placed second or third several weeks in a row.
Sorry, I’m usually nice and don’t like to stir up trouble, but this server hopping thing is just silly (especially now that an entire guild has to pay for it). Stick to your server and do your best…don’t go jumping around and be proud of your victory.
And before anyway says anything….I am directing this towards the builds that joined JQ as well. I personally didn’t ask for them (nor did I want them). While I will continue to fight alongside them, they will always hold less respect in my eyes, compared to those of us that picked one server and stuck through from the beginning. Nothing will ever change that, in my eyes.
I think it’s fair to say BG is the new super server, you may have equal or greater coverage to JQ now NA, Oceanic and Asian time zone and you will have 2 ups on us with VOTF and HB for your Euro coverage.
I don’t hold it against you quite frankly, I play on JQ and I think we over-recruited to beat SoS, you’ve done the same to beat us, but that doesn’t mean you didn’t over-recruit.
I really don’t blame the players at all, it’s the system that is flawed.
The system doesn’t force hardcore pvp guilds to transfer to one server like a school of fish everytime their current server has a hiccup.
I’m not sure but in real battles, I’ve definitely seen Charr come back quickly.
Also, in real battles, I know Norn can carry a lot of supply…way more than a human and a ton more than those weak Asurans. In real battles, you only need a few Norn to carry all the supply you need.
The Asuran’s don’t need no drunken Norn… They can build golems to carry more than any Norn or Dolyak, and then erect an Asura Gate to transport it faster!
^_^
True. I am Asuran and it’s fun watching those goofy bookahs haul stuff around manually like pack mules.
I’m not sure but in real battles, I’ve definitely seen Charr come back quickly.
Also, in real battles, I know Norn can carry a lot of supply…way more than a human and a ton more than those weak Asurans. In real battles, you only need a few Norn to carry all the supply you need.
I swear that every person who defends the thiefs blatant overpoweredness does so because they themselves play a thief.
How about we have a new rule – if you play a thief you are not allowed to comment on if they are OP or not
That’s not quite true from what I’ve seen. In my experience:
Really good players who play thieves will admit they are overpowered. The type of player who could pick up any class and be good with it in a short amount of time.
Average players or bad players who have thieves and are suddenly good players tend to defend the thief a bit more staunchly. They don’t want to acknowledge that the reason they are suddenly doing so well is due more to mechanics than it is to their ability.
That’s just what I’ve found, anyways. I’ve seen this same basic thing happen in other games as well when it comes to imbalanced classes at times.
I love messaging people on the other side sometimes. It’s fun once in a while to talk to THE ENEMY…you remember that for the most part they’re just people playing a game, too.
At least legendary rewards are tangible. You can show them off to someone. “Prestige” of racking up player kills is unverifiable. There’s no way for another person to objectively tell how many people you’ve killed.
I can confirm this. I put my legendary rewards and my PvP kills on my resume. Recruiters were suitably impressed with my legendary reward but demanded references (which I could not provide) on my PvP kills.
Also, I pick up lots of chicks with the line, “Hey, baby…wanna see my legendary item?”
I just get punched when I tell people how many kills I have.
Im from SoS and i hope SoR bloody well gets more points by the end of this season so our server can drop a tier ASAP.
I’d rather let Blackgate deal with JQ thank you very much.
No.
For 8 weeks SoS rolled through tier 1. Everyone had fun. There was much joy in the world and people frolicked in the streets.
Times have changed. JQ has taken roids. SBI has disappeared and been replaced, first by a tenacious little pitbull named Blackgate, now by a larger, angrier mob named SoR.
Running to another server (a couple of our hardcore pvp guilds) or dropping to another tier to hide from JQ is for sissies.
Secondly, if your having problems with culling.
you need to upgrade your hardware.
With the recent change, culling got better for some and significantly worse for others.
That tells us that it may then be a hardware problem where people are using the lowest spec computers available.
If you are using the lowest grade of equipment, you may also want to come to terms that culling will possible never get better for you.
They’re generally the people who weren’t good enough to get badges the old-fashioned way (straight-up combat).
Wait. So the people doing PvP in the jump puzzle (combat) to get badges aren’t doing it the old fashioned way (combat), but the clowns jumping around for 15 minutes not doing combat are doing it the correct, old fashioned way (combat)?
So if you’re there to jump you’re doing it right.
If you’re there to kill jumpers you’re doing it wrong.
If you’re there to kill the people who kill the jumpers you are again doing it right.
Fortunately I’ve met a lot of intelligent people who realize it’s a waste of time fighting in JPs. We just cautiously move around each other and we both benefit. Enemy or not, in the long run cooperation pays off.
Those who fight in JPs are pretty much tools of Anet. They fight….because Anet tells them to. Because the other guy is red. Meaning if their own teammates were red they would mindlessly go into a berserk rage and try to kill or die themselves. Can’t reason with these guys.
Unfortunately irrational people end up ruining it for those who are more sensible. Lots of us come to WvW just for the badges and we all benefit by getting what we want. In addition, killing someone actually has a pretty kittenty badge drop rate. The risk/reward ratio is extremely poor.
So for those who fight “just because it’s red”, consider that you’re being manipulated. You fight just because you’re told to fight. You say it’s a PvP map. So what? It doesn’t force you to do anything. If you feel compelled to be belligerent just because of a color…well then you’re a tool. It’s as simple as that.
So I’ve learnt that when I do JPs as a mesmer, I equip my focus and coolly pull off the ledge those who attack me. I’m not interested in killing them – not worth my time. They’re just annoyances to be gotten rid of when they come between me and my badges.
So please – don’t waste my time attacking me in JPs. Be a bit sensible and we’ll all get what we came here for without any pesky situations along the way.
Ahh yes….killing people in a pvp zone makes you a tool…..jumping to the top of a hill for a badge makes you a sensible, reasonable person who can’t be manipulated.
Make a new upgrade called “Alarm”. When the upgrade is complete, you get your orange swords back, but only at that location. Upgrade tier 2, you get your white swords back at that location.
Until the upgrade is done, you stay and defend what you take or you accept the risk that right after you run off, someone else may snag it right back without you ever knowing.
Yes. [insert server name] would like to thank [insert server name 2] for the bags. We had fun farming you even though you outnumbered us 50 to 2. It’s too bad [insert server name] has 24/7 coverage and my server, [insert server name 2] only has 5 people in total who WvW.
I was farming [insert server name here] and they ran off to PvDoor. [insert server 1] has great coverage and my server [insert server 2] has bad coverage. Numbers favor [insert server name] but I still farm them even when they outnumber us 75 to 3. I got 5000 badges last hour, why did you run away?
I’m sorry, but SoS complaining about transfers and population is hilarious to me.
Just to be clear, “SoS” is not complaining about anything.
1 guy who plays on SoS seems to be. I’m pretty sure I can go to every server in the game and find someone saying something that doesn’t make sense….should I attribute one guy’s nonsense to the entire server?
Anet makes sure we see all the Mosquitos, scales, drakes, snowflakes, Krait, rabbits, shimmering water, more snowflakes, dolyak mobs, ect ect ect…. More Mosquitos. How about let us see (since we run a 5 man) the 20+ people running towards us so we can bail and survive rather than watch our healthy drop 5x the normal fights pace while seeing 4 reds and 22 Mosquitos and drakes?
A more entertaining thread would be who’s the weakest guild, you know the ones, can lose an entire homeland BL in less than an hour while others wait in Q
Can lose Bay or Cliffs by a failed defending/taking of a spawn tower with 50+ with 2:00 left on ppt timer.
Sounds like exploiting. There’s no other reason for a bottom rank tier to end up in tier 1.
We have people on our borderlands today buying keep upgrades 30s before an attack, then spamming the remaining supply into walls and rams. It’s cheap to cheat (it’s what, 5s for merchants? And that wastes 600 supply). It’s amusing when tier 3 servers need to sabotage. It’s like the orbs all over again. Oh, and then there’s the consumable spam.
Clarity of vision. I like it. You have something to say and you are saying it regardless of what thread you are on.
I’m not surprised at all really, JQ is well known for using cheap tactics like this.
One time when we were defending hills and getting our fortification upgrade up there was 2 members building trebs in the champion room and wasting our supply so we couldn’t upgrade.
Its sad how you guys have to spend $50 just to spy and sabotage servers.
I doubt “JQ” got together and endorsed this activity. From what I see, not even the guild they are in endorses this type of stuff and it’s been addressed.
Labelling an entire server because of the actions of a few is idiotic.
I enjoy the game sorry you don’t, so I guess it is buh bye to you as well. Capitalism works go away, take your friends, don’t care if the game is a bomb peoples money will decide. 60 dollars isn’t much when you have a jobby job and can make more. Sorry you broke your piggy bank as well. Next time do more research before you buy.
I have a decent job.
There was no research that could have been done before buying that says culling is a major issue. You won’t go to ANet’s site and see a blurb “Epic WvW fights involving armies of invisible people we won’t show you because we can’t afford bandwidth”.
I’m sorry..it’s 2013…bandwidth is cheap. If you can’t afford the bandwidth so people can see a few dozen or even 100 players on screen at once, something is very wrong with either your bandwidth contract or your finances.
As far as culling so all systems are on the same level, that’s a terrible idea. There’s a reason most games have grahics settings that can be configured on the client side. No reason for people running 2013 computers to be saddled with people fading in and out at random because some people are still using 2004 computers.
As listeners of GuildCenter know, we called this one weeks ago and it has finally happened; Sea of Sorrows is imploding kiddies! After many discussions, Fist of the Empire (FoE) and Aggression (AGG) have left SoS for a new home on Blackgate. We are also hearing rumors swirling of MERC and ND following them to Blackgate with several guilds throwing into the kitty together to help fund the transfer for some of the transferring guilds; transfers to Blackgate are going for 35 gold per person. (Side note, MERC advertises a 1500 player base and ND advertises an 850 player base). VotF allegedly was planning a return to the European servers but are currently waiting to see how things shake out. Hmm, 90% of the defunct Ascension Alliance back on the same server minus Team Legacy (because no one wants them of course) … coincidence? We think not!
And why is this happening? Well from what we’re told here at GuildCenter, most of it centers around the drama caused by Tsym (who apparently is planning to stay on SoS) and privately is throwing quite the hissy fit about these guilds departure. But why would these upstanding guilds decide to depart suddenly? Well you’ll just have to stay tuned to the upcoming GuildCenter to hear the details (hint hint hint!!)
What does this mean for the T1 NA bracket? It means things are about to get goooooooooooooood.
More to come, stay tuned!
The internet is great because everyone in the world with an internet connection has a voice.
Unfortunately, that’s a double edged sword at times.
Yes, yes, yes, that’s been regurgitated many times. Heck, even I’ve used it. But look at the data for Friday night.
The data I have available to me is from spending the entire evening bouncing back and forth between fighting JQ and SoS. Every time we started gaining ground against one, the other would start messing with us forcing us to shift focus.
Based on my evidence and direct observations, I could rightfully claim JQ and SoS was double teaming us. Fortunately, I understand the nature of this game to realize that this most likely isn’t reality.
Oddly, based on my view, I could also claim JQ and SoR were doubleteaming us.
It’s the nature of 1v1v1’s. Every server thinks it’s being doubleteamed. Every server is being doubleteamed at some point, and it is rarely (if ever) a coordinated thing.
