My main issue with AOE is there is no risk in order to successfully pull it off. Warriors have to be in the fray to pull off their cleave. Its high risk high reward. Other classes should be subjected to the same. Whether its marks, chaos storms, etc… , all need some sort of risk to make someone choose to use it instead of just spamming it on cooldown.
Warriors also have long bow that they can do the same with, they are not always exposed in order to utilize aoe.
RockSteady Once you start playing the game at high lvl spvp you will understand what he’s talking about.
What are you, the god of gw2? Get over yourself. His opinion is as valid as yours.
I’m not the God of Gw2 but there is alot of players who think they know what they’re talking about when they have no idea what is really going on unless you’re playing the game at top lvl of spvp you have no clue of what’s happening. Watching a game and thinking you know some stuff it’s not the same as playing it i’ve experience those things first hand.
And this is why the forums are a joke most of the time you got those players who doesn’t understand the game or they think they do talking all kinds of things. They should just make a forum for the top 2% of players that spvp in Gw2…..
“I’m not talking about Hotjoins”
What I don’t understand is, when you make comments like this that follow a previous comment you’ve made which was-
“In the current meta all you have is a bunch of “faceroll” builds that anyone can play you don’t even need to be good at them to be able to compete in high tier spvp.”
If they are faceroll builds and you don’t need to be good at them, then how can you say there is a high tier of pvp? Not to mention that TPVP is nothing but glorified hotjoins atm.
Well there are those players that refuse to play faceroll builds cuz they don’t want/like to play that way and there are those players that just goes with the meta.
That doesn’t change what you are saying. If there is no skill involved in those builds to compete then how can you claim there is a high tiered level of pvp?
RockSteady Once you start playing the game at high lvl spvp you will understand what he’s talking about.
What are you, the god of gw2? Get over yourself. His opinion is as valid as yours.
I’m not the God of Gw2 but there is alot of players who think they know what they’re talking about when they have no idea what is really going on unless you’re playing the game at top lvl of spvp you have no clue of what’s happening. Watching a game and thinking you know some stuff it’s not the same as playing it i’ve experience those things first hand.
And this is why the forums are a joke most of the time you got those players who doesn’t understand the game or they think they do talking all kinds of things. They should just make a forum for the top 2% of players that spvp in Gw2…..
“I’m not talking about Hotjoins”
What I don’t understand is, when you make comments like this that follow a previous comment you’ve made which was-
“In the current meta all you have is a bunch of “faceroll” builds that anyone can play you don’t even need to be good at them to be able to compete in high tier spvp.”
If they are faceroll builds and you don’t need to be good at them, then how can you say there is a high tier of pvp? Not to mention that TPVP is nothing but glorified hotjoins atm.
The pvp devs don’t have any clue what they are doing. The game is no more balanced now than it was at release. If the game is going to be unbalanced no matter what, we might as well have more skills/traits to play with so at least it takes a little longer to get stale.
The game’s balance is definitely better in its current state than it was at release. Now that’s not to say there aren’t things that were over compensated in the last patch or that more diversity needs to be added to professions.
Two people made mention of this in separate posts, but focus could use more combo fields, preferably a water field and a smoke field.
The reason I didn’t suggest a water field on focus is cause scepter has 2 blast finishers coupled with utility blast finishers (and other stuff like evasive arcane and traited attunement switching, boon runes ect.) the healing will be too OP.
I’m assuming for the same reason offhand dagger has a hard heal instead of a field.
I think there are ways around making it too strong, such as a low duration combo field on water. I also think that it fits the feel of focus in that it could fill the role of support.
Firstly that is an assumption you are making, and you are choosing to believe it, even though I have told you its not my intention, you refuse to believe that fact; in that regard I can’t do anything, if you so choose to believe that is my intention then you are entitled to do so, but its only an assumption you are making.
I called someone ignorant for telling people not to address Arena Net, because they are not the ones who are placing these restrictions which is 100% incorrect, there fore he is spreading false information, he obviously had no knowledge on the matter, but chose to post about it regardless. I called him ignorant and told him that if he has no knowledge on the matter it would be best not to post.
What you are doing here, is completely different, so please just stop posting here and go find another post to troll.
How is calling you ignorant for not having all of the information, which you later admit to, any different?
I’m glad for you, that you were able to reach A-net where others have not been able to.
my old recommendation for you is go back and read, I am really tired of quoting things for you.
I would also like to say if you want to continue this please pm me, instead of posting in this thread.
Firstly that is an assumption you are making, and you are choosing to believe it, even though I have told you its not my intention, you refuse to believe that fact; in that regard I can’t do anything, if you so choose to believe that is my intention then you are entitled to do so, but its only an assumption you are making.
I called someone ignorant for telling people not to address Arena Net, because they are not the ones who are placing these restrictions which is 100% incorrect, there fore he is spreading false information, he obviously had no knowledge on the matter, but chose to post about it regardless. I called him ignorant and told him that if he has no knowledge on the matter it would be best not to post.
What you are doing here, is completely different, so please just stop posting here and go find another post to troll.
How is calling you ignorant for not having all of the information, which you later admit to, any different?
I’m glad for you, that you were able to reach A-net where others have not been able to.
Let’s put balance aside for a bit. Does anyone else feel like there is just way too much control and damage across the board?
It seems like most organized fights are decided by an assist train that just spams stuns, fears, and immobilize into a target as it helplessly implodes to too much damage. This even works on a guardian if an engineer or necromancer is involved.
Nerfing necromancers, particularly terror, would fix a lot of this. (Terror is the big problem in group fights because, even if the necromancer doesn’t have Dhuumfire, something else is likely applying burning.) But even before necromancers got buffed, I felt — and others I talked to did as well — that some of the burst put out by elementalists, mesmers, and thieves and condition damage put out by engineers was too much, even if every other class did the equivalent damage theoretically necessary to balance it out on a spreadsheet.
The buffs to weakness admittedly pushed this in what I see as the right direction, but it came as other classes got more control and damage, so it wasn’t sufficient in the big picture.
Just curious what others think. I admittedly don’t have all the answers for this question, and I’m not sure if there are any easy fixes.
I feel that they’re having issues in the arms race of condition and condition cleanses. While they circularly balance that aspect, they continue to hurt builds that do not have as many cleanses or conditions.
I think burst has shifted from thieves to eles now, which is a bit more palatable as you can at least see it coming.
I personally will be leaving the competitive guildwars scene if worst comes to worst, and this won’t be because I hold any resentment to Arena Net, but in fear that this could happen again in the future and that I would be an obstacle for my team; because hey lets face it potentially the region restriction could remain for the next coming tournaments and I have no way of knowing if it will or won’t, so the safer option would be to assume that it would remain.
Quote on quote, what I typed regarding leaving, but yes sir it was a threat to Arenanet I expect they are currently scrambling to change the region restrictions in fears that I am leaving the guildwars 2 scene.
As I stated before I don’t think Arenanet care if I continue playing this game or not, the fact that you think the objective of my post was to threaten Arena net is purely ludacris, but then again daft people no ?
If you had such conviction you would have just left, there was no need to post that other then to try and leverage (as little children often do) your position. Threatening companies to quit…conceited people no?
And how are you able to get past the region restriction? Others would possibly benefit, why don’t you share that instead of your snotty comments to people?
As I said in the above post which you obviously failed to read or understand, but as I said before you seem to neglect actually reading posts before replying to them, so I am going to requote the above post to you yet again. I personally will be leaving the competitive guildwars scene if worst comes to worst.
I hope that, that clears a lot for you, I never said I was leaving, nor had I confirmed the fact that I will be, I just state that if things got dire, that I would leave in order to ensure my team never has any future troubles.
As I said previously it was never for to threaten Arenanet, and as you can read (hopefully) I never said that I will be leaving.
I got past them through personal matters, that I would rather not discuss on the forums, but if this will comfort people, Arena Net did say that they are going to provide additional information that will help clarify a large bulk of these problems, later on.
All you keep doing is reiterating the, “fix it or I’ll quit sentiment”. You can dress that up all you want.
I think it’s great that you have ways of accessing and getting answers from Anet that others don’t.
And to Shan, I never said people don’t have valid complaints. As a matter of fact they are all valid, my issue is with how this guy thinks he can crap on someone and believes it’s ok for him to do it, but others not to do it back to him.
Let me clarify your the one that keeps bringing it up, and when proven wrong then you just resort to saying that I am dressing it up; as I said it’s obvious that this is personal to you, but go ahead lol try and find some sort of self validation through making assumptions about my intentions.
I am very sure that the english in that post is very clear and I do mention that if restriction are going to be a persisting thing, then I would stop playing competitvely, as would a lot of other players as also mentioned by shan.
You are the one who made it his personal mission, and I don’t recall taking a crap on anyone, nor that op of the post feeling offended or expressing that I was out of line, but since you feel like being a vigilante, then go ahead.
You’re not proving anything wrong. The purpose of your post was to convince them to change what they are doing. That’s exactly what I said it was and that was the intention of it. You keep trying to dress it up as something entirely different, because you got called out on it.
You calling people ignorant and telling people not to post is what started me in on this. As if you were somehow better than other people. Yet you throw a tantrum when someone does it back to you.
I personally will be leaving the competitive guildwars scene if worst comes to worst, and this won’t be because I hold any resentment to Arena Net, but in fear that this could happen again in the future and that I would be an obstacle for my team; because hey lets face it potentially the region restriction could remain for the next coming tournaments and I have no way of knowing if it will or won’t, so the safer option would be to assume that it would remain.
Quote on quote, what I typed regarding leaving, but yes sir it was a threat to Arenanet I expect they are currently scrambling to change the region restrictions in fears that I am leaving the guildwars 2 scene.
As I stated before I don’t think Arenanet care if I continue playing this game or not, the fact that you think the objective of my post was to threaten Arena net is purely ludacris, but then again daft people no ?
If you had such conviction you would have just left, there was no need to post that other then to try and leverage (as little children often do) your position. Threatening companies to quit…conceited people no?
And how are you able to get past the region restriction? Others would possibly benefit, why don’t you share that instead of your snotty comments to people?
As I said in the above post which you obviously failed to read or understand, but as I said before you seem to neglect actually reading posts before replying to them, so I am going to requote the above post to you yet again. I personally will be leaving the competitive guildwars scene if worst comes to worst.
I hope that, that clears a lot for you, I never said I was leaving, nor had I confirmed the fact that I will be, I just state that if things got dire, that I would leave in order to ensure my team never has any future troubles.
As I said previously it was never for to threaten Arenanet, and as you can read (hopefully) I never said that I will be leaving.
I got past them through personal matters, that I would rather not discuss on the forums, but if this will comfort people, Arena Net did say that they are going to provide additional information that will help clarify a large bulk of these problems, later on.
All you keep doing is reiterating the, “fix it or I’ll quit sentiment”. You can dress that up all you want.
I think it’s great that you have ways of accessing and getting answers from Anet that others don’t.
And to Shan, I never said people don’t have valid complaints. As a matter of fact they are all valid, my issue is with how this guy thinks he can crap on someone and believes it’s ok for him to do it, but others not to do it back to him.
I personally will be leaving the competitive guildwars scene if worst comes to worst, and this won’t be because I hold any resentment to Arena Net, but in fear that this could happen again in the future and that I would be an obstacle for my team; because hey lets face it potentially the region restriction could remain for the next coming tournaments and I have no way of knowing if it will or won’t, so the safer option would be to assume that it would remain.
Quote on quote, what I typed regarding leaving, but yes sir it was a threat to Arenanet I expect they are currently scrambling to change the region restrictions in fears that I am leaving the guildwars 2 scene.
As I stated before I don’t think Arenanet care if I continue playing this game or not, the fact that you think the objective of my post was to threaten Arena net is purely ludacris, but then again daft people no ?
If you had such conviction you would have just left, there was no need to post that other then to try and leverage (as little children often do) your position. Threatening companies to quit…conceited people no?
And how are you able to get past the region restriction? Others would possibly benefit, why don’t you share that instead of your snotty comments to people?
Right it’s obvious your quiet daft, as I stated above when I did I at least replied with some knowledge behind my post instead of flat sarcasm as you did, if your going to go out of your way to be sarcastic, at least provide some knowledge behind why I am wrong, instead of making a non-sense post.
I am also a potential partcipant and the issue effected me directly, and my issue was resolved thus I have a lot information about whats going on then you do, and I am not basing my information on nothing.
You are obviously completely deluded if you think that I would attempt to threaten Arenanet by saying that I would quit playing, please go back and read my post, and if you want to make a personal assumption that I was threatening Anet then please go ahead, its flattering that you think that it even matters.
Facts? The facts are you don’t know everything, so you are just as ignorant.
Secondly, what was the purpose of telling them to fix it and volunteering you wouldn’t play competitively if they didn’t? I mean, were you trying to relay that information to your teammates?
You always try to play this high horse nonsense with people. You’re the one who started in on someone. And yes I did make a sarcastic post, because you’re attitude is infuriating.
Actually I think its more so that you have a bone to pick with me on a personal basis, because you are not objective what so ever, but then again there are a lot of people like you around these forums.
The reason I would leave playing competitively was because of issue like these region problems are going to occur and I might be a target of them again in the future then I would rather bow it now and not risk my team going through the same issues once again, this is an issue between myself and my team and has nothing to do with you.
The reply was to someone who obviously posted without any information on the matter, claiming that the event was not being organised by arena net but by pax or another sponsor, which is infact not the case, and that information is very well known; pax is the venue in which the event is going to be held and that is very general information that everyone has access to, but then again when people like yourself are not objective and just reply back on pure emotion, then the point is lost.
I don’t even think this is the first time you have infected one of my posts, but please feel free to chase me around these forums if it brings some sort of validation to yourself.
I don’t have a bone to pick with you personally, I don’t even know you…Him/her posting on the matter without all information different than you how?
Again, what was the point of saying you would quit competitively because it effects you? If it effects you and you feel that strongly about it, you just stop playing. There is no other purpose to post it on the forums other than as was previously described.
Chase you around the forums? I see…I see…you’re THAT guy. You think that you matter to other people because you play a game? I don’t even know you, I didn’t give you 1 second of thought before I read that post. So by all means, if being an kitten to people is how YOU wish to validate your non-existence, please continue.
I seem to matter to you now, you’ve gone through this whole effort, but then hypocrites right ?
I also mentioned that I would stop playing competitvely, to outline the implacations that these sort of barriers would have on competitive players, I am pretty sure other people in this thread have also expressed the same train of thought, as the devs have previously mentioned before, they do read the forums, and it would help if they understood how this was effecting the community (I thought that this would be more obvious), but yea this seems to matter to you a lot, which I fail to understand as why, because as you previously mentioned I am insignifcant, so why are you so keen on bringing this point up.
Others have gotten their point across as to how this would effect the community and they didn’t do it by posting a fix or I’ll quit post. Why do I keep bringing it up? Because you are trying to deny that it was the point of the post, knowing that was the only reason to bring it up. (I thought that was pretty obvious, but daft people you know?)
Right it’s obvious your quiet daft, as I stated above when I did I at least replied with some knowledge behind my post instead of flat sarcasm as you did, if your going to go out of your way to be sarcastic, at least provide some knowledge behind why I am wrong, instead of making a non-sense post.
I am also a potential partcipant and the issue effected me directly, and my issue was resolved thus I have a lot information about whats going on then you do, and I am not basing my information on nothing.
You are obviously completely deluded if you think that I would attempt to threaten Arenanet by saying that I would quit playing, please go back and read my post, and if you want to make a personal assumption that I was threatening Anet then please go ahead, its flattering that you think that it even matters.
Facts? The facts are you don’t know everything, so you are just as ignorant.
Secondly, what was the purpose of telling them to fix it and volunteering you wouldn’t play competitively if they didn’t? I mean, were you trying to relay that information to your teammates?
You always try to play this high horse nonsense with people. You’re the one who started in on someone. And yes I did make a sarcastic post, because you’re attitude is infuriating.
Actually I think its more so that you have a bone to pick with me on a personal basis, because you are not objective what so ever, but then again there are a lot of people like you around these forums.
The reason I would leave playing competitively was because of issue like these region problems are going to occur and I might be a target of them again in the future then I would rather bow it now and not risk my team going through the same issues once again, this is an issue between myself and my team and has nothing to do with you.
The reply was to someone who obviously posted without any information on the matter, claiming that the event was not being organised by arena net but by pax or another sponsor, which is infact not the case, and that information is very well known; pax is the venue in which the event is going to be held and that is very general information that everyone has access to, but then again when people like yourself are not objective and just reply back on pure emotion, then the point is lost.
I don’t even think this is the first time you have infected one of my posts, but please feel free to chase me around these forums if it brings some sort of validation to yourself.
I don’t have a bone to pick with you personally, I don’t even know you…Him/her posting on the matter without all information different than you how?
Again, what was the point of saying you would quit competitively because it effects you? If it effects you and you feel that strongly about it, you just stop playing. There is no other purpose to post it on the forums other than as was previously described.
Chase you around the forums? I see…I see…you’re THAT guy. You think that you matter to other people because you play a game? I don’t even know you, I didn’t give you 1 second of thought before I read that post. So by all means, if being an kitten to people is how YOU wish to validate your non-existence, please continue.
Right it’s obvious your quiet daft, as I stated above when I did I at least replied with some knowledge behind my post instead of flat sarcasm as you did, if your going to go out of your way to be sarcastic, at least provide some knowledge behind why I am wrong, instead of making a non-sense post.
I am also a potential partcipant and the issue effected me directly, and my issue was resolved thus I have a lot information about whats going on then you do, and I am not basing my information on nothing.
You are obviously completely deluded if you think that I would attempt to threaten Arenanet by saying that I would quit playing, please go back and read my post, and if you want to make a personal assumption that I was threatening Anet then please go ahead, its flattering that you think that it even matters.
Facts? The facts are you don’t know everything, so you are just as ignorant.
Secondly, what was the purpose of telling them to fix it and volunteering you wouldn’t play competitively if they didn’t? I mean, were you trying to relay that information to your teammates?
You always try to play this high horse nonsense with people. You’re the one who started in on someone. And yes I did make a sarcastic post, because your attitude is infuriating.
I also want to point out that your issue was already fixed, yet we didn’t see any mention from anyone at A-net as to why you are able to play and others are not. Curious.
This however can be cleared up by a legal team and is not by any margin difficult to execute.
(so sir please don’t speak in ignorance, if you don’t understand much about the matter its best not to say anything at all. Thank you.)
Its I however don’t know everything behind the scene’s …
You can have many preferences, but I don’t personally care; especially after you just got done chastising someone else for doing the same thing.
In reference to the budget, and not the legal issues, which is the topic of discussion.
but then again you personally don’t care, so I can’t expect you to think before posting, right ?
I personally don’t care of your preferences. I guess it’s to much to ask for you to read. You’re such a hypocrite. You chastise someone for speaking on matters they are not fully informed and yet there you are, playing amateur attorney. Not to mention, you’ve always been one of the first to say, “give them time to fix it” yet when it effects you; you’re front and center with the pitchfork.
I suppose there is always someone who has to make the forums unpleasent, I chastised someone because they stated 3-4 incorrect facts based on no information.
All I did was explain that the problem has a solution.
I am also not effected by this issue, I thought I was but all that was clarified, I am doing this because it is unfair that these people who has spent so much time playing this game and trying to be competitive at it, are shut out and not even being given a chance, to play, when they have worked so hard for it.
It is also unfair for the teams that have to leave behind team mates because they are not able to attend, it is very unfair that these sort of sanctions are impossed on these teams and players, right before the event they have been working so hard for.
So you admit to chastising someone yet you say I’m the one making things unpleasant…
Now that you have clarified that this no longer effects you, I’ll safely assume you will bow out of this “fix it or I quit” mentality.
I replyed to someone who completely spoke out of ignorance, and asked him not to come and make incorrect assumptions and also provided knowledge behind why he is incorrect.
You on the other hand just put in a sarcastic comment that was completely pointless and brought nothing to the argument, so please don’t pair me and you in the same boat.
My issue was cleared up yesterday; I don’t care about the fact that I am fine to go, there are a lot of people that I consider friends who have worked very hard to try and get to the point where they can attend a lan event, so I will continue to try and support the idea that the event can’t have these sort of restrictions.
Regarding the “fix it or I quit” is obviously a very inaccurate and shallow way of putting it, but through out our conversation on this forum its quiet apparent that it follows your posting format (as little thought put behind it as possible).
I will not continue to play, if I become a hinderance to my team or any other team trying to play the game at high a level, because I will not be able to attend live events, therefore I would rather not play at all.
Sure you can make it like I made some sort of a childish threat, like Arenanet cares if I leave the game or not.
I would just recommend that you drop this argument and move on, because its a waste of my time as much as it is yours.
I just want to be clear, you feel it’s ok for you to do it, but not ok for someone to do it to you? Last I knew, you didn’t work for A-net and were NOT privy to all the information. So, you were/are just as ignorant. The only difference is that you feel you’re above other people and that is substantiated by your past posts as well.
Regarding the fix it or quit it comment. You can dress it up all you want, the fact is you stated that if they didn’t correct their course of action you would no longer play competitively. That’s blatantly a fix it or I’m quitting comment.
This however can be cleared up by a legal team and is not by any margin difficult to execute.
(so sir please don’t speak in ignorance, if you don’t understand much about the matter its best not to say anything at all. Thank you.)
Its I however don’t know everything behind the scene’s …
You can have many preferences, but I don’t personally care; especially after you just got done chastising someone else for doing the same thing.
In reference to the budget, and not the legal issues, which is the topic of discussion.
but then again you personally don’t care, so I can’t expect you to think before posting, right ?
I personally don’t care of your preferences. I guess it’s to much to ask for you to read. You’re such a hypocrite. You chastise someone for speaking on matters they are not fully informed and yet there you are, playing amateur attorney. Not to mention, you’ve always been one of the first to say, “give them time to fix it” yet when it effects you; you’re front and center with the pitchfork.
I suppose there is always someone who has to make the forums unpleasent, I chastised someone because they stated 3-4 incorrect facts based on no information.
All I did was explain that the problem has a solution.
I am also not effected by this issue, I thought I was but all that was clarified, I am doing this because it is unfair that these people who has spent so much time playing this game and trying to be competitive at it, are shut out and not even being given a chance, to play, when they have worked so hard for it.
It is also unfair for the teams that have to leave behind team mates because they are not able to attend, it is very unfair that these sort of sanctions are impossed on these teams and players, right before the event they have been working so hard for.
So you admit to chastising someone yet you say I’m the one making things unpleasant…
Now that you have clarified that this no longer effects you, I’ll safely assume you will bow out of this “fix it or I quit” mentality.
This however can be cleared up by a legal team and is not by any margin difficult to execute.
(so sir please don’t speak in ignorance, if you don’t understand much about the matter its best not to say anything at all. Thank you.)
Its I however don’t know everything behind the scene’s …
You can have many preferences, but I don’t personally care; especially after you just got done chastising someone else for doing the same thing.
In reference to the budget, and not the legal issues, which is the topic of discussion.
but then again you personally don’t care, so I can’t expect you to think before posting, right ?
I personally don’t care of your preferences. I guess it’s to much to ask for you to read. You’re such a hypocrite. You chastise someone for speaking on matters they are not fully informed and yet there you are, playing amateur attorney. Not to mention, you’ve always been one of the first to say, “give them time to fix it” yet when it effects you; you’re front and center with the pitchfork.
This however can be cleared up by a legal team and is not by any margin difficult to execute.
(so sir please don’t speak in ignorance, if you don’t understand much about the matter its best not to say anything at all. Thank you.)
Hi, The ranger needs to runs signet of renewal for a full condi clear for the team. The ranger must be close to his pet to use it (as would the anyone getting their conditions cleared) within about 600 range I think. Once the ranger uses signet or renewal then the ranger must swap pets otherwise the pet will die from conditions or get hit by epidemic. Also, Spirit of Nature the ranger elite is very strong. Engis can be immune to condis as already stated and both the rangers and the engis can remove a lot of conditions with their heals. The ranger must take empathic bond but needs to make sure his pets stay alive and swaps frequently. Finally, make sure the thief is striking at the right moments and does not get hit by any condition aoe.
This however can be cleared up by a legal team and is not by any margin difficult to execute.
(so sir please don’t speak in ignorance, if you don’t understand much about the matter its best not to say anything at all. Thank you.)
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I didn’t know you were a lawyer as well. You should offer your legal resources to them, would probably speed this along. This way everyone can participate. Glad we have a vast player base to help this along. Here you are A-net, we have one volunteer lawyer to help you along…
the game itself needs some improvements but… what about the community ?
with the release of skyhammer a few things came to light, one of the biggest one is how much the “loudest” members of our community hate change, skyhammer is far from the perfect map but… the map itself serves as an example for different, more creative play-types. but then you see all these members of the community completely rejecting and shutting down just because they don’t want to adapt.
these players want to continue running (example) the same shatter build they have been runnimg from launch, the same DD ele build from 7 months ago, same cheesy BM Ranger, etc on the same team comp they run for every map, every month… completely ignoring the unique mechanics of every map.
skyhammer is a step on the right direction, the playground actually played an important role on the meta, driving it away from the bunker- condi heavy into a CC-1v1 meta. It could be awesome if every map had such an impact, it would make map rotations meaningful and help shift metas while keeping things fresh…
but.. until all these loud members of the community learn to adapt and stop being so ignorant towards their class (LOL at all of those who sware their class don’t have any CC or stun breaks), doors will continue to close for both GW2 and the community.
What do you guys think?
do you want more fun and creative maps, with innovate mechanics ?
OR..
plain boring maps with meaningless mechanics so you can run the same build and team comp map after the next?
Adapting isn’t an issue, recognizing how poorly designed this map was obviously is.. People spouting, “players don’t want to adapt” use this as their war cry as a means to dismiss people who have a different opinion than theirs. Do you think it is hard to adapt to that map? It isn’t…and after you adapt you STILL realize it is terrible design choice.
I found it “fun” to instagib someone maybe the first 10 times, but after that it was just plain dumb.
Sigh…I had this same idea like 2 months ago, everyone said it was terrible idea. Basically because it is. This system would be available to everyone of each rank, and most rank 50+ have millions of glory, millions. They would advance through ranks so fast.
Ranking up doesn’t need to be faster, or slower. What needs to happen is more rewards in between per 10 ranks. Whether that is weapon skins, armor skins, or back pieces, or dyes.
And should not have to do PvE to get skins in PvP.
Do you know how many rank points are required to get to rank 80? Why do you assume the conversion rate would be 1 glory=1 rank point? The ranking process is too kitten grindy and glory is useless. Why not allow us to spend it on something (anything at this point).
No. Just no. So hotjoin rankfarmers would hit r80 ways faster. it’s like converting 1 gold to 1 PvE level…
Way faster? Do you realize the time commitment it currently takes to get to rank 80?
Let’s say for example, hotjoin 1 hour: 1.5k glory
Tournament 1 hour: 600 glory, and because we lack unrated, some people just don’t play pvp when their team is offline, = less time, less glory, less effecctive format, and still a better player than a hotjoin grinder
Also, gloryboosters would be the way to buy progress.
Yet, do you know how much rank points are required to gain rank 80? You wouldn’t make 1 rank point=1 glory. Not to mention, if you aren’t playing tournaments because your team isn’t playing; then just do hotjoins.
You guys are just so… I would get suspended if I would tell. Can’t you understand? We actually buy the gems from players, and they get the gold we pay. If there would be a way to trade glory on TP for gems, who would buy a completely unusable currency?
How is your time spent farming gold more valuable than my time farming glory? Ultimately, time is the real currency.
one of the biggest complaints i see here is “it forces people into a specific setup”.
am i the only one that thinks this is an ideal scenario? each map forcing you to make use of a different setup and strategy to make the best of it is how maps should be.
of course, there’s the issue of “well guardians are excellent at CC and counter CC” and other complaints regarding “this class is better for this map”. honestly? CC isn’t everything, and you only need one well timed use of it anyway, the rest is bonus. you can still win this map without using CC for everything.
You can win this map without CC? It’s like saying that you can win Kyhlo without Treb. If the enemy isn’t using it, sure. But they will.
you can win without CC, you just do exactly what you do on other maps, but while paying attention to where you’re standing. the threat of possibly having CC is enough to keep people on the edge about… well, edges. kill people, burst people, bunker people, the usual stuff.
of course CC provides an advantage, but 1- it’s nice that each map demands a different playstyle within the same class, rather than a “good for everything” kind of build (which, i can’t stress enough, still works the same in this map. your burst isn’t suddenly ineffective because you could CC someone to death) and 2- an advantage isn’t a guaranteed win.
CC still provides an advantage on EVERY map. Locking somoene out of a heal or cc’ing to coordinate burst is still strategic gameplay. If we’re going to promote 1 shotting people as skillful, let’s bring back all the burst classes that we’ve nullified. Bring back frenzy/hb, 100nades, 25 might stack shatters with double shatter, and back stab thieves. We can tell everyone to be skillful and l2dodge and position.
Love the map (and for the most part, I am not a fan of conquest). Don’t change it or listen to the elitists who think it should play perfectly with their current teams and builds.
Now, next map needs to be Capture the Flag then Arena 2v2 3v3 5v5, go!
Are you against giving everyone a skill that one shots anyone? Do you wish to promote that “boom head shot” type of game play?
What I don’t understand about the introduction of this map is, we’ve been moving away from one-shot/instagib mechanics for months now. Yet, here we introduce a map whose primary mechanic is setting up an instagib.
Clearly I do not understand so I am asking the community. A lot of people say the new maps (Temple, Spirit Watch, Sky Hammer) take no skill while the old maps (Foefire, Forest, Kyhlo) do. It seems to me thakittens pretty “skilled” to CC someone at the top buff on temple, at the orb to then cap it or delay the runner, and to CC people off the ledges on skyhammer. Seems like one would have to wait out their stability and dodge their CC in the meantime. However, skill for the old maps seems to be dropping aoe on point, dodging high damage abilities, and focusing fire so that the enemy cannot use his “skill” to survive because there is just too much damage. Seems to me both things are pretty viable and would require the same amount of “skill” to be successful at. Sadly, most say that the new maps require no “skill” and I don’t understand that. If one is “skilled” then why did they get knocked off the edge? Were they not good enough to dodge the enemy’s CC? Were they not good enough to stay alive while their enemy had stability? These seems like an example of the dead players lacking “skill” not the living players lacking “skill”. So where does the argument that maps like these require no “skill” come from?
Seems to me that you either win or lose fights depending on 2 things: skill or superior builds regardless of how its done.
Lowest skill map is Legacy of Foefire > Zerg Mid ask the pro player to stay on close. Then Forest. The Kyhlo (because the map is too smal for any good strategy instead of zerging 2 points).
But then come Temple it is the child of Forest and Kyhlo = small map with aoes and extra control points.(AoE fest with some pulling/timiings).
Then come spirit watch(too bad bugged) – the map that propose us the 4 poiints spliting – But wait! We need different builds for this map – screw it! None want to roll new build. Everyone want to play wow-style-1hero-life.
And now we have Skyhammer! The map that loves spliting, loves fast paced movements/jumping etc,loves CC and heavy timings. But again i need another build. Not AOE fest that i played yesterday at Legacy. How to solve? > go to forum whine and ask to remove from tourney rotation, so we can have 4 maps that we don’t need to change anything.
Rly? thats what you want from this game? My grandma is more flexible. She has some diversity from year to year when making her garden.
Clearly your answer to every game mode is to give every character a 1 shot mechanic and tell everyone to l2dodge when they get caught. There are elements of the map that are good and promotes strategic play. Then there are mechanics that are complete non-sense. One shot mechanics should not be in any game, but if you are of the opinion they should be then why stop with kb’s? Just give everyone a one button kill shot.
Why do we expect anything else as pvpers? It’s a shame that no Anet rep wants to step up and tell us why we’re constantly looked over when these things come out. Shame on us for thinking otherwise though.
Is staggering blow still bugged? It ruined my cc chain.
Use kick
I run a different spec and different utilities to the same effect. I haven’t been running it since staggering blow was bugged. Just curious if the fixed it yet. I haven’t seen it in any updates.
There are cons on Anet’s side, not for us. My post pretty clearly states that I’m in favor of a PTR, and I never say anywhere that high level players can’t participate.
Then what are the cons? Even on A-net’s side. Resource allocation? They already have it in place, except it’s done internally…they have test servers.
So buff to necro, then debuff to necro..makes perfect sense. Not whack-a-mole at all. Slow clap.
This is what happening when not adjusting balance by the help of actual top-class players, but by ppl that play on isolated test-servers without any clue of competitive play. (Some SOTG responses of devs prooves their heavy lack of understanding)
Sharp stated that they use “top” level players to help with balancing…which to me only validates the self interest of those players (being that these buffs went through).
Sharp also misrespresented the forum, in his explanation why there isn’t a ptr, when he stated that the public didn’t want to beta test their stuff. What we don’t want to do is beta test in a LIVE environment, especially given that we don’t have the option to test it ourselves.
So in other words, because they don’t want to have to change their builds to deal with conditions, they all claim necro is OP. This is despite the fact that on some of their streams I can still see them pooping all over necromancers like before.
I swear…
That’s not close to what I said. I said the “balance” process is broken and is only validated that buffs like this (that are “overtuned”) are eventually reverted or toned down.
How many times can they “miss” the mark on some of these updates before they see the value in a PTR.
Using the 500 pound gorilla as an expample. Have you seen how many proposed changes were reverted or reworked as a result of player feedback on their PTR (talking about WOW). The position that J. Sharp takes, that players have stated we don’t want to beta test their product is completely and intentionally being misrepresented.
So buff to necro, then debuff to necro..makes perfect sense. Not whack-a-mole at all. Slow clap.
This is what happening when not adjusting balance by the help of actual top-class players, but by ppl that play on isolated test-servers without any clue of competitive play. (Some SOTG responses of devs prooves their heavy lack of understanding)
Sharp stated that they use “top” level players to help with balancing…which to me only validates the self interest of those players (being that these buffs went through).
Sharp also misrespresented the forum, in his explanation why there isn’t a ptr, when he stated that the public didn’t want to beta test their stuff. What we don’t want to do is beta test in a LIVE environment, especially given that we don’t have the option to test it ourselves.
If node deactivation is implemented for custom arenas it would be a simple way to enable a new Team Death Match type of play style. Players can already set point caps and team sizes for different types of TDM and allowing it in custom arenas first would be an easy way to test it out before implementing a totally new playstyle into tpvp. And Anet wouldn’t have to build all new maps to support a new style of play.
I believe new pvp modes will shake up the class tiers as well. A warrior is weak in pvp because they need to be “babysat” in order to be good, and in Conquest 5v5 you are split off into 1v1 and 2v2 situations where other classes are better at dealing damage while tanking a node.
Put a warrior in a TDM setting and all of a sudden they become a huge threat. They have access to cleansing support from classes like rangers and guardians, and healing support from elementalists etc. They get control support from all the other classes as well and now can specc for damage, call out kill targets, and get the job done. In TDM if a warrior needs to disengage from a fight for a moment they can do so with no penalty. If you disengage for any amount of time in Conquest you lose the node. Hell, if you use Whirlwind Attack often enough (which you should be using always) you’re at risk of losing a node.
Just some thoughts.
TL:DR
Node deactivation in customs = TDM
TDM = Class tier shake-up
TDM = fun
You want to customize your custom arena? You’z crazeee…..
Necro damage is completely out of control, its very hard to l2p against such a massive amount of condi’s.
I think that necro needs to be toned down, its sad but true, if only you could hear our ts during those matches, we had no structure or strat, we just asked our necro’s to kill things and we would assist where possible.
If you would read more than the tittle I would consider your reply as something.
I am not replying to your original message, but people commenting about our games; if I was to reply to your original topic then I would make a point that I am addressing you.
well you’re refering to a mere “marketing trick”. So your point is invalid.
Alright your obviously not worth the time, I can see that from the manner you address people and talk; good luck with what it is you want to achieve.
Necro damage is completely out of control, its very hard to l2p against such a massive amount of condi’s.
I think that necro needs to be toned down, its sad but true, if only you could hear our ts during those matches, we had no structure or strat, we just asked our necro’s to kill things and we would assist where possible.
If you would read more than the tittle I would consider your reply as something.
