Heart of Thorns Dungeons/Raids/Fractals
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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642
The raids will likely be big open-world events like Triple Trouble, Marionette, Tequatl, or Vinewrath. This is ArenaNet we are talking about, after all. They don’t like doing things traditionally.
Let’s edit this down:
There’s almost no evidence that traditional raids are good money makers for the companies, which makes it less likely to me that they’ll do them.
Yeah, even Blizzard admitted that raids can alienate a very large portion of the player base because of the raids not being accessible to them. It’s why they just ended up making the LFR tool and started making raids easier.
Only when that’s the entire focus of all of their content patches, and the only reason raids had alienated players is because of difficulty, nothing else. After LFR was released, raids went from being done by single to teen digit percentages of players to 60-70%, based on statistics gathered by mmo-c.
Even if raids were WoW heroic-level of difficulty, that would be fine. Not every piece of content needs to be accessible by every single player. Only when the only focus is on this small group is when it becomes a problem.
I kinda does need to be accessible to at least most players since they don’’t put out enough content to keep people occupied as it is.
The fact that the game has increased its playerbase since launch disagrees with that statement.
The playerbase obviously increased since it’s a one-time buy.
But do you think you have the same number of people active right now than at launch? You couldn’t be more wrong.
Look, all I want is an answer from Anet whether we are getting some instanced challenging group content akin to dungeons, where individual skill matters, or we’re getting an open-world “group” content, where only organization of the zerg matters and skill means less.
Heart of Thorns Dungeons/Raids/Fractals
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Yeah but challenging group content can easily mean another Tequatl ..
Not for me. Not atleast I get confirmation of new dungeons.
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Will Heart of Thorns include new dungeons?
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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642
Can we have just a nod if this is going to happen in the release of HoT?
I would like to gather this kind of information as it will determine whether I purchase the expansion pack.
Heart of Thorns Dungeons/Raids/Fractals
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Yes I kinda am in doubt of getting the xpac if that means no new instanced group challenges
Heart of Thorns Dungeons/Raids/Fractals
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For the people who are into that kind of content, are we gonna get anything of that type?
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So… no mention of dungeon/raids/fractals? God kitten it.
There’s multiple citations everywhere that show that the Mes+4wars were the fastest team, so much that Anet broke their standing and buffed Ele and the others.
Same sauce, from reddit
I dont have faith in Anet anymore. Closing in on 3 years of GW2 and were there any miracles? Nope.
The faith in them is so low I’ve come to expect a mobile app announcement for PAX.
“If you expect nothing, you’ll always gain something”. Unfortunate philosophy for a game company.
Ugh… Anet is bound to listen to the casuals sooner or later. So many cries. Why wont people just shut up and learn to play? If they want to tank or heal, go play a Holy Trinity MMO.
Back during launch and a few months after, before Berzerker everything started to be too prevalent or required, I would do many dungeons on my Bunker Guard. It was interesting doing it with people who were Zerker’s and doing the whole zerker farm at the time because you could tell they weren’t actually learning anything mechanics wise about the bosses. Half the time these people would explode in less “optimized” groups that weren’t doing as much dps, and many times I soloed half the bosses in the instance by rolling appropriately, deflecting, debuffing, knowing the mechanics, and healing out my kitten .
Oh it’s an endless gold mine!
From reddit:
Mesmer + Warriors was the fastest dungeon clearing team up until about may 2013, when COF only runs were still the norm
You apparantly have no idea what the meta WAS. Back in the day, you used to be able to run COF multiple times on one character without DR, to an extreme. People found out that running berserkers meant that the amount of gold per run you could get was best with most the party being warriors and one being a mesmer(for time warp). Back then we only needed one character who was a warrior with his berserker set and you were golden for the run: Easy, fast, stupidly painless. and eventually people found ways to make the other dungeons go fast with the same setup. Then Anet didn’t like the amount of berserker geared setups like that, so they put DR on the rewards from a single character running. In response to the DR, nothing changed, just people started leveling multiple warriors to continue the runs. I had 3 at the height of it"
Can somebody just put this guy out of his misery? How are some people so stupid?
The might nerf is one of the biggest changes Anet has ever done to the record runs scene. Unfortunately it’s neither positive for dungeons in general nor is “the biggest change” we ever got from new content or complete remake of dungeon encounters, which would be ideal.
Funny thing is Might got nerfed because of PvP Celestial strenght. And now you wonder why don’t they just make the change for PvP/WvW?
It’s always the shortest straw.
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Dungeon scene as a whole is dead. You can guess how dungeon selling is currently: cheap as hell + high possibility of getting instance stolen = not worth it
Prophet Brown is on a dating site. LMAO
Also sorry to crash the party but I learned to expect the worst-case scenario when it comes to Anet endeavours: then the worst-case scenario was already expected and anything better than that is welcomed with a great surprise!
From the datamining post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2sazzz/datamining_upcoming_features_from_point_of_no/
“There were a LOT (5000+) of new lines in this patch but 70% of them appear to be updated versions of: Living world 1.0”
Could it be that Heart of Thorns is just a bundle of the original game plus Livin World 1.0 and Living World 2.0?
That would be so bad…….
Could you please grab your screen, throw it out of the window, then grab your keyboard and gently bash yer bloody skull in for putting that horrible thought in my mind??!
I’M BELIEVIN’, I’M HYPIN’, ain’t NOBODY gonna stop the hype train— CHOO CHOOO
I’m jokin’, here’s a kitty for you to show my love
:3I’m obviously gonna be disappointed and it IS going to be something ridiculously sad (a friend of mine on ts just suggested a phone application, lel!) such as a living story 3 – just paid, but I’ve always been a hopeful son of a kitten. Wouldn’t be here if I weren’t.
I do believe that we have a respectable chance of at least seeing a small DLC.
P.S. There was a discussion on ts about it and the general consensus is that, if anet dares to kitten this up and announce something appalling after renting the BIGGEST room in the kitten pax and hyping to hell and back, people at the event are gonna jump on the desk and hang Colin or whoever’s available by his buttcheeks.
Thats the thing man, Anet isnt hyping all that much about it, atleast for now. Most of the hype has been through reddit who digged some buried stuff. If it were an expansion wouldn’t it be logical to have more hype about the pax announcement by Anet themselves?
Also sorry to crash the party but I learned to expect the worst-case scenario when it comes to Anet endeavours: then the worst-case scenario was already expected and anything better than that is welcomed with a great surprise!
From the datamining post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2sazzz/datamining_upcoming_features_from_point_of_no/
“There were a LOT (5000+) of new lines in this patch but 70% of them appear to be updated versions of: Living world 1.0”
Could it be that Heart of Thorns is just a bundle of the original game plus Livin World 1.0 and Living World 2.0?
That would be so bad…….
Data-mined from this patch:
Ascended Gear
109894_0203: Victory does not go to the loudest, but to the most effective. —Master of Whispers
Oh god, is Anet taking a jab at the tears of the casuals (loudest) versus the effectiveness of speedrunners?
Did Zerker master race finally won the war? Ahaha
Don’t get me started on the kitten-kitten knobs that leave the FotM once they get their daily chest. If you’re going to do a FotM daily, at least make them finish the freaking run before they just dash off.
How do they get their daily fractal chest without ending the run? Are you not talking about the daily end boss fractal chest?
if you guys expect meta comps in pug runs youre asking for too much from those guys….
wheres the wrong? o.O
Its a pug run…
Just your average “i play how i want” ranger: “I play rangers how they are meant to be played, which is ranged”
btw Iris are you looking at dungeon mentors post ? Lots of students there asking for an inv, have you sent it?
Yeah I bought a full assassin’s one
Alright then, Im gonna farm a bit for Ranger runes
Thanks for the offer Ropechef but I gotta earn everything I own :P
How’s the rune of ranger (6) working? Still working with minipets?
Lions arch is not a reliable source of information. After asking the same question and specifying that it was for dungeon meta, I was suggested to get Rune of Balthazar and finally was pointed out that “there is no such thing as a dungeon meta”.
Help please
I’m creating an engi, what are the next runes in line after Rune of the Scholar?
Thanks
Spoj, meet a real necro main you filthy casual!
In fact, looking at the necro’s post history he might just have found a time machine or awaken from a coma
gw2 dungeons and priority in the same sentence? have not heard that in a while
Pretty sure two devs said in an interview: “GW2 dungeons are not a prority and they take too much work” :P
You dont need to perform resets to get what you want. Example:
Gold fractal relic for completing fractal 50, blue one for completing fractal between 40-49, green for completing fractal between 30-39, etc.
Merging these relics would yield you the box you suggested.
Im still not sure this would be the right approach because its just artificially increasing the number of players at lower fractal levels who dont actually belong there. Higher fractal levels should always be the thing you run due to (theoretically) having better rewards. That system forces people to go from a harder fractal level to an easier one for added rewards.
It hardly makes sense from a challenge vs reward point of view
Dont you dare join the words “reset” and “fractal levels” together.
I think The Reset was enough trauma on its own caused by Anet itself. Having an option to self-inflict reset on fractal level just adds salt upon injury
I dont think I was ever presented with such a hard decision my whole life:
Mikeys or Nemmys?
God kitten it
What the helll…
How can people salvage 6 items and then go create a forum thread claiming Insignias were removed from dung weapons?Because Math R Hard bro. 6 is definitely the sample size that I choose most often in life.
Dude, but I just tossed the coin 6 times and all 6 only were Tails, Heads has never happened!! Clearly this means coins no longer have a Heads-half! I should make a public post and tell the world about it! God, Im so smart.
Dear diary, today I changed the world. This is my story.
(I swear this could be a GW2 ad)
We have the Oscars and the Emmys right?
Does anyone has that red post saved about a year ago where they talked that it was “definitely something on the table”?
Petition to change the name of this to VideoGamerMike 2014 Awards, or Nemesis 2014 Awards
Also, if metrics consistently show evidence that the game is dying because players are quitting the game, introduce Log-in rewards so that you can show NCSoft investors that the game is steady and that Living Story is working afterall!
Wait…
May the Casual Claus drop some quaggan backpacks and living story chapters at your fireplace tonight
Merry xmas mates.
What the helll…
How can people salvage 6 items and then go create a forum thread claiming Insignias were removed from dung weapons?
Flip them? What do you think this is, the Black Lion forum?
Did it ever returned temporarily for sale ever since it got removed?
The inventor sunglasses just arent as cool as the aviators.
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UmadFrand?
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Vee Wee doesnt understand you correctly because you didnt format your text in a FRANDLY way!
Try using the frandly format next time explained below! Wahoo!
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Wiki says they were removed from the Gemstore December 17, 2013.
Are they ever coming back? Why were they removed?
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GW2 Tickets for Review (7 days & older)
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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642
Hello, my friend’s account got compromised/hacked (password was changed, no log-in activity seen though).
Ticket: “1082550 : Account stolen by email adress”
I’m posting this here on his behalf since he hasn’t got repply back since the automated e-mail.
It’s been three days now and no word back. I know you guys are extremely busy but maybe this ticket was forgotten under the pile of them?
He recently returned to GW2 and cant wait to play it again. Thanks!
Part of the issue revolves around more and more MMO’s discovering that dungeons are not as widely played as perceived and that only a small portion of the playerbase commits to them regularly. A well balanced dungeon is a lot of effort to make if only a small amount of players (proprotionate to population) play it.
I understand that philosophy…I don’t necessarily agree with it though. Or at least putting them to one side entirely. Just because a low number proportionatly play something, doesn’t mean the target audience should be narrowed.
Now, part of this is speculation on my part. MMO’s like Lotro boomed on dungeons, then after realising the effort wasn;t worth it, decided to scrap any further dungeons. Wildtsar’s marketing of its instances also hasn’t paid off for the same reason. IS this why Anet has cooled off on dungeons? Probably. But, it does have a healthy number already in place and that may be in part what they are taking into account.
Will they make more dungeons? I’d be utterly surprised if we didn’t see more and strong indications from the CDI (despite being shut down unnecessarily and cutting off early some really good community discussions) suggest instanced raid content is being worked on behind the scenes.
About Wildstar. In my opinion it crashed because of the business model. GW2’s one is superior (B2P), but following the trend of not so sucessful MMO Launches, Wildstar is probably going B2P or even F2P and players like me who are dungeoneers at heart might just take the bait.
This is why Im asking for confirmation on this whole “no more dungeons”, because it can be a game breaker for a lot of people I know.
I believe theres a dedicated subreddit for finding guilds. Make sure you find one who does the type of content you like and that you identify with. Theres a lot of good guilds but then theres those “number-guilds” who only care about having lots of members and where youre just a number and not a person.
So youre better off finding a small-medium but tight closed guild. I found those to provide the best experience