Guild Wars 2

spoj.9672:

I was talking about against a test dummy in HotM lol.

And RS auto attack is about 2.3-2.4 seconds repeatable. total coefficient per second is just over 1.1. Which is really really weak. Its only very slightly stronger than GS auto attack. These numbers are far far below what dagger has. And RS barely does more than regular DS (surely the gap should be a bit bigger considering melee and risk)

that’s really unfortunate. outside of RS 2, i really like the way RS plays….hope the numbers improve

awkward skill to use…..would prefer to aim where i go

basically…….i want reaper shroud….but nothing else related to Reaper. oh the builds one can make by dropping reaper trait line….

GS stinks, so toss it….reaper shroud does not, though, so equip/use dagger/warhorn for LF and get back into RS

DaveyC.4398:

They melt for a reaper…

same….really enjoying reaper shroud

overloads are terribad…..no reason to EVER use them.

pls increase numbers to make the “risk” worth it.

Zoso.8279:

Bhawb.7408:

Jekkt.6045:

they nerfed chill for all classes and put an icd on a trait that deserved an icd?

increasing the cooldown on gs is something i don’t understand but it’s still beta so i’m sure robert will listen to feedback.

So far they’ve done the exact opposite of listen to our feedback when it comes to reaper.

Ive been reading these forums for a while and I wouldn’t call what you guys are doing feedback…. Sounds more like demands.

3 yrs of kitten balance will turn ya salty.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

It is really hard to be optimistic about a class when the balance team is taking away all of the goodies before Reaper hits the shelf.

agree. with every iteration of these elite specs,, i get less enthused….and reaper is worst offender.

how can anyone have faith in this balance team, especially when it comes to this class?

the reaper looks like kitten in anything but casual pve

wow is GS kittenty.
not surprisingly…..anet nails the “slow moving/ hitting” part, and ignores the “hard hitting” part.

chilling nova ICD is hilarious…anet balancing at its finest.

oh well…plan to spend as much time in RS as possible anyway. d/w +staff it will be.

Greymelken.1892:

you just want to bunch them up so you can staff 11111111 them to death and get the most profit of anyone else with the minimum effort, that’s why I am using knockback. The less damage you and your engineer flame throwing friends do, the more likely it will be that I get on the damage table high enough to qualify for a loot drop.

when I think you are actually working for a reward, I will stop sabotaging your efforts.

lol…..a proud (and foolish) griefer.

um…..okay.

more system reworks……no one reworks their existing systems more than Anet.
they’re nice for sure (very happy for ascended salvaging), but i’ll care more if/when they actually add a new fractal or two…..long overdue and will be hugely disappointing if they don’t add at least one new fractal w/ HoT

that said, reducing the time investment necessary to get something out of fractals is a great change. kudos.

liberal use of Big Ol’ Bomb/Air Blast and especially PB Shot are just brutal.

in the early days of the game, Banish was a problem too….but you just don’t see many hammer guardians in open world evens for it to matter now.

wow…this was a completely kittened up patch. pls fix the TP….and the hundereds of other things you broke.

tried to buy some runes………gets and error screen….and red subtraction text from my gold total. small enough amount (less than 1 G) that i can’t be sure if it was a graphic error, or if money has been taken from my account unfairly.

either way….fix this.

balance team trolls on…

lol…..no fix to duelist disciple…of course.

Kodama.6453:

Relshdan.6854:

only class specs get the monday teaser image….so we’re not getting one this week.

I guess so too, but that would be very disappointing. First wave 3 elite specs got revealed, then a really long break and now we get just one reveal and have to wait again?

sure, but it doesn’t mean we won’t get some HoT info….personally, i’d like to see more on new maps/zones or more importantly: “challenging group content”. what will be disappointing is another tournament announcement, developer spotlight, or “fan art” feature.

only class specs get the monday teaser image….so we’re not getting one this week.

dietzero.3514:

The Karl designed ones will always be the worst.

Reaper disagrees.

jewishjoyride.4693:

Wondrouswall.7169:

I’m running a variant of Guangli’s Sinister setup in Dungeons and general PVE (such as Silverwastes) on my 2nd Ranger and it’s working well. Below is the dungeon setup I use but you can sub out Sun Spirit for Spike Trap at any time for utility purposes.

Sinister Ranger

You give up so much of what makes Guang’s build great. Your changes don’t improve the damage of the build. If it suits your tastes better, then great. But Guang’s build is the more efficient by far.

don’t know about that…..if we’re going full sinister, i might rather have all those dmg modifiers in marksmanship, than companions might and honed axe in beastmastery. S/D 2nd set can keep me from using dodges most of the time….so that’s a 20% personal dmg modifier +5% on pet…that’s pretty significant

might also go flame legion runes for another easy to maintain 7% dmg modifer

Quarktastic.1027:

Lazze.9870:

Quarktastic.1027:

Lazze.9870:

Quarktastic.1027:

I’m tired of watching my guardian (mishmash of soldiers, knights, and zerker -with traveler runes) pump out bigger damage numbers than my zerk/scholar ranger.

Sounds like you’re confused by big numbers without paying attention to the actual damage output.

Full sinister is a must, otherwise you’re just gimping yourself.

I think you may have misunderstood my post.

Okay. Let me make it easier for you:

Quarktastic.1027:

I’m tired of watching my guardian (mishmash of soldiers, knights, and zerker -with traveler runes) pump out bigger damage numbers than my zerk/scholar ranger.

Sounds like you’re confused by big numbers without paying attention to the actual damage output.

Quarktastic.1027:

Sinister gear would obviously be the best pick, but for the purposes of being a cheapskate, I was thinking of running carrion armor/weapons with sinister trinkets (I already have all the trinkets).

Full sinister is a must, otherwise you’re just gimping yourself.

Capiche?

You know what, forget it. I’m not going to argue for the sake of arguing.

rabid would be better than carrion due to the precision…and yeah, you’d not be optimal, but you’ll be fine…the difference isn’t that much since you have the trinkets

disappointing none of the traits grant self-stability, but depending on where the numbers end up, i can see trying out tempest in pve with D/x Fresh Air. May not prove optimal, but might be a fun change of pace on a solo pve build.

interesting how scepter mainhand is completely ignored by this elite spec

also, that GM trait that nullifies chill (among other CCs) really is a kick in the balls to reapers.

Palador.2170:

Relshdan.6854:

Palador.2170:

PlatinumMember.5274:

2. The class mechanic is unusable against opponents that have something called a brain, it only works against PvE mobs.

Given that not all classes and specializations will ever be equal, is it really so bad that there’s one that flat out doesn’t pretend to be useful in PvP or WvW?

yes.
its a waste of dev time if it is only usable in one of 3 game modes.

personally, i think it will be fine in wvw zerg…….just bad at roaming and VERY needy in small group / pvp

Oh, so anything used in only one of the three game modes is a waste of dev time? Think carefully now…

there’s no way their goal is to make an elite spec that only works in pve……it may end up that way….but that isn’t their goal.

Palador.2170:

PlatinumMember.5274:

2. The class mechanic is unusable against opponents that have something called a brain, it only works against PvE mobs.

Given that not all classes and specializations will ever be equal, is it really so bad that there’s one that flat out doesn’t pretend to be useful in PvP or WvW?

yes.
its a waste of dev time if it is only usable in one of 3 game modes.

personally, i think it will be fine in wvw zerg…….just bad at roaming and VERY needy in small group / pvp

Remedy.3429:

Guizao.4167:

PlatinumMember.5274:

meeflak.9714:

Jonandu.2073:

This Elite Spec is so so awful. I could give 2 million reasons why, but why should I when my words will go on deaf ears… This proves they haven’t listened to the community at all… We have a Elite Spec based on support!!!!!! Everything else we have is SUPPORT!!!! This doesn’t even change the way the ele plays!!!!! This is just Horrible. I am glad I didn’t preorder, maybe I will be back next x-pac… See you guys when GW2 The Awakening of Jormag comes out, than may we get a true weapon and a true Elite spec.

Doesn’t change the way ele plays?….. I’m done trying. I’ve tried too hard to speak against this ignorance.

You are free to believe that people are speaking out of ignorance. Your comment reads like someone who hates it that people have a different opinion about a toy he likes and is taking it too personal, aka “I am done trying” crap.

the tempest sucks, you can disagree all you want, it doesn’t make it less true.

Prove it sucks, then you can have some valid argument here.

He can’t. He’s just here to cry about everything like he has been since warhorn was even brought up. All we have is the minor traits and we don’t even have the warhorn skills, yet people act like they know everything, and just complain because they don’t have a job or any friends.

this.
investing so much to discredit something that isn’t released and will go through many changes, is an irrational position to take.

nothing wrong with theorizing weaknesses of the spec based on what we know…..but to proclaim it “sucks” w/o seeing traits and numbers is foolish.

i’ll wait and see.

the traited 15sec cooldown doesn’t bother me (6 extra seconds isn’t game changing) if the skills are worth it and there are traits that will provide enough stability to pull them off.

as of now, you’d be forced to take Armor of Earth or offhand focus to even be able to do them. its cool if it takes a mantra traited mesmer to blow 3 MoDs to interrupt you….but you have to be able to self-generate enough stability to not be interrupted by a single cc….and preferrably it wouldn’t lock you into having to use AoE cantrip……..that said, you’ll be using that skill anyway outside of pve…..but in pve, a trait would be preferable.

Fade.1743:

Relshdan.6854:

blah…needed a melee mainhand….got an off hand

well….mesmer needed another main hand and got another off hand instead.

seems Anet would rather you have to choose between already strong options, than remedy class weaknesses.

The difference is simple with that. ahem

Sword Mesmer…is still good. The strongest ability also gives you a high evade uptime. Oh…yeah…and a vuln stacking auto-attack that properly cleaves.

Mesmer might be in need of another main hand, but it still has a melee option. Not a close ranged, point-based AoE option.

no doubt ele was it worse….but either way its a curious decison on Anet’s part to ignore glaring weapon deficiencies in some classes.

boo…..not a fan of adding another offhand to a class that desperately needs a true melee mainhand.

well, hopefully the skills and new mechanic are cool (like mesmer, which initially disappointed me when its weapon was announced as something other than the main hand it needs)

blah…needed a melee mainhand….got an off hand

well….mesmer needed another main hand and got another off hand instead.

seems Anet would rather you have to choose between already strong options, than remedy class weaknesses.

that would make sense…..though it probably wouldn’t matter due to sigil/ on-swap cooldowns

Kidel.2057:

As guardian. So?

this.

for 2+ yrs Guardian scepter was so slow it was practically unusable. its slightly better now for pve, but still unusable against human opponents.

very happy about this…and after watching shiro, excited again for this profession.

must be a troll thread.

Zmodd.5427:

Seriously? They have one line tied to their profession mechanic, which is Invocation (I believe), therefore no, it does not have less traits.

Edit: Think of it like Elementalist’s lines, 4 elements 1 mechanic.

Very good. Was worried. For some reason, I missed the line not tied to a legend ( haven’t had a chance at any beta yet).

Mod can close this thread… Thanks

If I read correctly….4 core legends (trait lines) and one elite legend/line, for 5 total. That’s one less than all the other classes.

No weapon swap

Less utilities w/ no customization

And now one less trait line to choose from.

Hmm.

not seriously, but for soloing open world (boss vets/champs/events w/ lots of mobs) i find a spite/death/blood MM w/ zealot gear to be the easiest of all the classes. its basically invincible….maintaining scholar rune bonus + your minions’ health is pretty easy….so the actual damage you do is pretty decent.

OPs initial post is more rude than anything i’ve experienced in game (minus the occasional wvw whiner…cured by a simple block and report).

nah…unless it gets added alongside the current orr….no more “replacement content”.

right now its balanced for the future reaper shroud….and sucks balls for death shroud.
trick is giving something to both shrouds worth having

i think combining suggestions 2,3 and 4 is the way to go.

so trait gives both:

A) AoE burn on entering shroud (1 stack@5 sec)….works well on shroud flashing builds and makes reaper shroud even better at melee

B)shroud skill 1 inflicts 1 stack (3 sec)burn at melee range (whatever that ends up being for reaper shroud); a 1stack (4sec) burn at range up to 600; 1 stack (5 sec) at range up to 900, and 2 stacks (3 sec) at range higher than 900………..this will at least start to make up for the inherent disadvantages LB will have vs. reaper shroud melee cleave, by giving better single target damage

brilliant move by Anet……..timely and thus could get people talking.

spent a few hrs…..really nice.

MUCH prefer the new LA over the old cheesy pirate theme park. and as much as i loved exploring the wrecked LA at first, it had to go.

well done, Anet artists.

you aren’t necros…..so no need to worry.

honestly, they shouldn’t nerf burns…just how some classes apply them.

but this is Anet balance…..reducing the damage formula is way easier than balancing how each class applies it.

so instead of editing a few traits/skills per class every month or 2 to get it in line, they’ll just nerf the damage of the condition and call it fixed.

Seera.5916:

Here’s a post by Jon Peters that describes the reasoning behind their decision to apply hero points for you:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Things-we-know/first#post5199666

they chose the worst option (because it required the least work/ gave players the least choice…that’s the new motto….remove choices)…..but meh…its kinda nitpicking. all my 80’s had tons of HP’s left over (i think the lowest had 120-ish left)….and most people will want everything for at least one alt of each class for experimenting.

this point has been made for over 2 yrs.

everyone but the speed run dungeon folks would like to see a change that sometimes requires different gear to be optimal/useful….provided rewards made the extra-time investment worthwhile.

but chances of the rewards being worth the effort is VERY slim…it would literally have to offer the equivalent of legendaries, for people to not simply abandon it and migrate back to the fastest/most efficiently rewarding content.

so ultimately, the zerk meta ends up being most acceptable/fair. the better you get at being a glass cannon that knows all dungeons inside out, the quicker you are rewarded. those that don’t want to zerk/stack can form their own groups that allow for the specific playstyle they want to engage in…at the pace they wish to engage in.

agree…really nice aesthetic for the general architecture and a lot of neat additions. once again, your environment artists/devs did a superb job.

flow.6043:

Also, I just don’t buy it before I can test it myself.
If it was true, are they going to change Spiteful Talisman to only be a 5% damage buff to focus skills?

don’t give them ideas.

base duration nerf of 5 sec

no way!…..necro devs deserve as much time as possible to bask in the triumph of their glorious troll job