Guild Wars 2

that’s perception though, one could say with all the new changes already happening in the game, this is already becoming something new before any extra content was released.

What makes this particularly hard, is that it seems that everyone has their own view of what defines new “stuff” worth buying, and completely missing the bigger picture, but on the same hand, I am by no means a white knight, and it does seem like anet is not communicating effectively with the community. My big picture is sort of on faith, but on the same hand they’ve sort of put a damper on many place I’ve enjoyed in the past…
We don’t know what’s coming next, anet doesn’t seem to follow along with what players want and perceive …..and everyone has their own philosophy on what hot is supposed to be. lol

anet can say it’s their game and their decision to go wherever they see best, players can say it’s our money and we want what we want. – maybe a version 2.5 can simply represent a new beginning to end the confusion.

it’s really the same kittens in a different bag, except with an acknowledgement from anet to work more closely with us to work on things we want ?

so, you won’t be getting the expansion because it doesn’t have enough or you anticipate it being too grindy ?

The Living stories were an expansion all their own. They didn’t charge for it, so you didn’t see it maybe ?

I have many things I can complain about, but anet getting lazy about content isn’t one of them. If anything, at one point I felt overwhelmed with all the new content we got….to a point that I felt relieved after holidays lol

I am personally for the game and character to have more personal meaning / value – i’m a distinguished asuran, i am not generic by any sense of the word, no bookah skillbars for me thank you!

the problem with this, is …history shows that anet goes above and beyond what they first release – so I’m not buying into the argument of this ‘offering’ being small.

I trust anet to give us the expansion and more, their presentation was all wrong imo and it devalued the countless hours that the team will be adding to the game above and beyond this ‘packaging’

but this is something more well known by a vet than a new player ….so I can respect why a new player would see it that way. They don’t even know if they want to stay yet.

give us the revenant character with the character slot with the prepurchase now so we can start getting use to it ….OR gems to buy a character slot. Then you just open areas as it gets done. This will also counter the idea that the package is tiny and increase pre-purchase sales, while appreciating the value of the core engine and eliminating the idea of new players getting 2 softwares as they are now simply getting the latest core version of guildwars.

let the vets explain to new players how things work, and lets get right to bug fixing and balancing skillz!!

this is no longer an expansion, it’s Hot being the First event in Guildwars version 2.5

not comparing the game itself, but the way it was able to turn itself into a relevant indie… and i found it interesting how they said publishers can interfere -arches brow-

wondering if anet needs us to have a little talk with ncsoft for them!

but since you are on the game perspective ….from what I’ve been watching with the witcher, it has a strong replayability value because supposedly some quests shut down others when you take them so you have a variety of endings to the story, some sort of choice and consequences set up, I found it interesting…….it’s not guildwars as far as mmo, but it is a nice way to keep things interesting and diverse for a while. Also from what i’ve seen, their maps are extremely large. it’s like they took single player to an mmo scale with environment.

the price of the expansion doesn’t bug me, I trust anet to create more content as we go….what DOES have me on the fence, is where are we going ?? ….this game play going further and further away from the mmo I first bought. specifically the prefab builds and constant change in game play – example, my jeweler is simply useless, and now I’m hearing that all this time and gold i spent building grandmasters was also wasted.

I’m not worried about anet cheating me, but i’m also not interested in playing a prefab game that leaves me very few choices in how to play – especially in pvp.

like i said in another thread, they can open a www.zazzle.com account, development costs would then be uploading jpgs. Then they can work with zazzle to offer coupons that zazzle would honor as part of an anet bundle. zero costs to open the store, and makes alot of work they have already done on files into a stream of revenue.

There are more resources today than in the brick and mo-kittenays to generate cashflow, the most important thing , anet already has, is an audience.

mor-tar got kittenned ? this is better than iphone autocorrect!! lol

but that may not be anets call, i’d hate to think we are jumping on anet when ncsoft might be the one pulling the kittens tail! maybe what we need is a fundraiser more than an expansion ?

what is the truth?!

i’m sure there is at least one insider just itching to type it!! ^.^

well this should make for an interesting read on topic ^.^
http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/06/26/the-witcher-3-kept-its-budget-low-because-it-was-self-published/

i wonder how much ncsoft has their hands in this and throwing a hot potato in arenanets lap!

one thing in particular i noticed from the ncsoft quarterly report – was their unusually low packaging / distribution costs – this may be why there is no collectors edition. maybe we need to bail anet from ncsoft ? lol

Dear NCsoft, Arenanet is not a potato, stop with those crazy meetings and let them focus!! We the players have spoken!

they’ve actually been doing it like this since gw1 – every time some feature or area becomes particularly popular, they do things to ‘fix’ it……not sure why, but it is a pattern.. it’s like you start out playing poker, but somehow the rules changed so much, you end up playing old maid. Then they announce black jack down the hall, and you end up playing gin rummy. then they say checkers in the next room, and you end up playing dodgeball with the chips. This is simply a game for the rationally challenged. It makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it.

nah, no partying …will only create gangs – pure friendly fire if you plan to work together – funnier that way.

I’m thinking you have to consider how any suggestion you make will be exploited for the worst. this could be fun, but it can be seriously exploited if implemented without proper consideration.

there should be one area where a random player out of 20 gets turned into a Dragon
( Like Tequatl ) and has 15 minutes to wipe everyone out! ^.^

the people kill you, they get the chest, you kill them, you get the chest!

OR to prevent people from exploiting it, it’s a spirit dragon and possesses different players in the match….so everyone randomly turns into a dragon during the fight

now had you said, you want a town thats a free for all ….that might be different. can’t say that i remember if any of the gw’s had a free for all mode. a last man standing mode might be interesting to watch. it might even come to mean something if someone can get enough ‘last man standing’ titles under his belt.

it is, but it sort of sounds like you want unfair pvp.

no, it only invites spawn / gate trolls – besides, that’s what wvw is.

I know what you are saying though, and normally I would have wanted that, but this game has too many people all too ready to grief others as their main fun time.

makes me excited to see the gw1 vets speaking up for what we know for a fact was fun!!

nvidia still has the dx11 and cuda advantage over amd. maybe dx12 the story might change….but as of right now, nvidia is king – literally by design.

whatever to make those 6 months of teaser campaigns stop.

haven’t you ever watched a developer interview and felt like "Dude, shouldn’t you be coding ? "

now if anet ever decided to host a server on mars, I wouldn’t mind regular updates of their progress…. but for an expansion ?! -wrinkles nose-

that’s a laptop chip ….as a desktop card …forgetabout it. i’m sure of this.

the gt without the x is a joke ….don’t touch that, waste of money – the minimum you want for today’s video cards is a performance rating of 2,600 or higher on this chart –

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

-2 finger clap- impressive presentation – and i would agree, but…and lets make that a BUT, like you said “Then there’s the challenging content, which we know nothing about”

we no nothing about what’s in the 20-30gb of files, it might be poor compression for all we know ^.^

you have a strong point, but you lost me at comparisons being a joke, such as your speculative argument :p

the price doesn’t justify the marketing hype, but less the hype, anet has proven in the past they will give you more than your 50 dollars worth over time. So it really depends how you want to look at it.

price based on marketing hype = fail
price based on anets dedication to improving the game = priceless.

shhhh, mesmers finally get some love after being tormented for years with infinite nerfs, low defense and slow speeds, and you get nervous ? don’t hate!

this can all be fixed with merchandising and creating bundles out of merchandising. heck, just open a www.zazzle.com account or even set up a 3D printing deal with another service to sell miniatures. The bundles could be in the form of coupons that will be honored by a 3rd party provider. It doesn’t have to be a brick and mortar package.

I don’t feel ripped off about that, and I have all the box releases of gw1 – looking at them now actually -g- nice memories, the internet simply has evolved to paperless interaction. It doesn’t mean that physical items lost value as fan merchandise though. Anet let themselves down by discontinuing that stream of revenue. they may save 50 bucks on packaging and distribution costs, but lost thousands on merchandising.

an arena net zazzle store would actually be amazing, i’m sure zazzle would also appreciate their business and it would be win/win/win scenario, – especially if zazzle honored coupons that were purchased in bundles from the game. disney, marvel, hallmark, and getty images already have shops there too so it’s an established modern workflow.

and it seems someone else already started selling guildwars posters lol

http://www.zazzle.com/guild_wars_2_the_charr_print-228398724443391976

tell me an asuran designed golem bike won’t sell!! ^.^
http://www.zazzle.com/custom_big_shot_fixie_bicycle-256594215339253936

zazzle doesn’t just sell t-shirts and posters!

honestly, i’m thinking that their marketing was way off – after catching up on some videos, anet did in fact add a lot …….but their hype is over kill……how many months have they been, nagging us with announcements and interviews ?

I don’t know about anyone else, but 6 months of hearing about what we don’t have yet, no release, no beta date, is getting ‘exhausting’ – it’s easy to say “look at all the ads and hype you hit me with ….for what …This ?!” – it’s an expansion pack, not guildwars 3.

it was fun for gw1 to gw2 …..but somehow this expansion pack marketing was simply exhausting and the expansion pack contents doesn’t match up to the over-hype. This is not saying that the expansion pack isn’t worth all they added, it’s saying, guys, chill..you didn’t build a new rome.

they’d probably have better results just putting it out and announcing it as a work in progress. At least then I can justify the price with everything they will add, and this can be verified with all they added after the gw2 launch. That can be trusted more than super hyped marketing.

and i’m no marketing expert, i’m the customer saying……i’m tired of you telling me all the things I don’t have and wont have till an unknown release date.

You could be my mate of 40 years, and if you started nagging me every day from july 4th about what I’m having for dinner next thanksgiving ……..the only thing I’d be happy with is for you to finally change the subject already on thanksgiving. I already knew you were a good cook….but months of blah blah blah blah blah was more than i could handle!

our word of mouth marketing is stronger than anything your marketing team can put together. we are part of your team whether you hired us or not, and i’m not much for lack of communication with the management department. We are the reason you have investors. we the players have spoken :p

I just discovered this review that made the expansion a little more interesting, and seems to give more insight than what I’ve seen elsewhere -

https://youtu.be/GFgCkK_ikJg

well for me, i found the zerker build to be the only real choice , add to it this new trait build ….most of the selections seems quite #derp to me since there aren’t many choices and only 1 out of the 3 in a line make any common sense. That’s for my level 80’s….

For new characters I’m still building, I can relate to what everyone else is saying, they wanted to build a certain way ….but the traits pretty much start and go wherever they want making it preset, but it does give you a visual illusion as you have control over your build …..-. just add more unicorns, rainbows and pink bunnies to the game and it would make more sense lol

sorry, it’s just getting a little weird to me, somehow how I’m feeling like i started with a hardcore pvp game and ended up in a super mario bros mmo.

seriously, i’m starting to get scared anet is going to take my armor and weapons from me, rewrap them up with a bow, give them back to me and say I’ve earned it. it’s all just feeling very “What just happened ?”

dungeons should really be open world’ish…….as more people come in, the dungeon scales up. when the map is full, a new map is made…..

the problem is, the way the dungeon is designed to be now, appeals to elitists – people should be able to enter a dungeon with their own team, but they should not be the only way to enter. that 5 minimum rule has got to go.

that is what concerns me, it looks more and more like anet is abandoning what anet started to be to imitate what wow is.

the fact is, anet did a good job of covering 2 distinct aspects of rpg , first is the war gaming aspect found in gw1 …and 2nd is the adventure aspect of gw2

they need to combine that into one world now. So i’m not ready to say anet let me down because both aspects of rpg are fun, but one is fighting the roll of the dice, and the other is competing vs a live opponent. anet is removing the live opponent factor. even with pvp, you are jumping into a prefab build, that is not “live”

nah, they are great at balancing – we are just better at making builds , they don’t like the overtime we cause them haha!

i say they should make a gw1 “Reloaded” version, take GW1 – update the bank/vault, add jumping, and camera views, nothing else…..and connect a portal to gw2 – no items or anything go back and forth, you are just in an alternate dimensions or something. gw2 is just starting to get way too dumbed down, and that’s ok….for adventuring.

honestly, i haven’t seen a big change in my build power ….but when i looked under the hood at the stats, it was a hot mess and I had no idea what anet wanted me to do there.

the art is nice, creates a nice mood, but the part of the build that allows me to build a unique strategy is just not there and i’m confused as kittens trying to figure out what anet wants me to do with this, it feels more prefab than ever and that’s what has me feeling ‘meh’ about it.

my fav aspect of the new expansion, is the gliding and new art, i love the gw art …so no matter what the mechanics, this is sometimes just fun as a hhhuuuge interactive virtual art museum to me – so it’s not a big deal and worth the price for the adventure / stylized art factor ……doesn’t mean it’s the strategy pvp game i’ve always wanted either :p

point being, i’ll get it, eventually. heh

True love is a gray area. <3

@celtic Lady – yes, i’m chaotic neutral in rp, i’m all about gray areas – but i stand for balance, not chaos lol <3

when the good get judgmental and self righteous, it’s time to cause balance, when the evil come to power, it’s time to cause balance. when there is love, it’s time to be peaceful.

the world is a mess, yall need to stop debating petty stuff and discussing how to get along. I don’t like marriage….period…so all of yall need to keep it in your pants when I’m in game :p

true love has nothing to do with corporate documents, nor should we need a court ruling to express such love. This ‘red tape’ nonsense, is simply petty. Love and respect each other as you are , where you are. The world is a mess, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution, no gray areas.

the only reason you’d want to hold on to an older account is for things like laurels or items that are account bound – other than that it’s not hard to make a level 80 character, especially if you use tomes.

then there’s the other side of that coin, sure you’ll have more items by having 2 accounts since you can farm more of the daily stuff …but it will start to feel like work.

while making a level 80 character is quick, it’s going to take a moment to catch up with all the new content with 6 characters.

fun character to max super quick, an engineer bomber …just keep dropping bombs wherever you go, things die chasing you lol

inkittention!! – now i’ve seen it all!

i think it’s beautiful you support gw2, it is after all a great “adventure” game! – but you also know that the first thing the new genre of players, whom have no clue of the mechanics, would jump in face first swinging. But i think it’s nice you believe they know pvp like the gw1 players knew pvp.

yep, gw2 has gotten very play by numbers.

now all we need is ai to run our characters so we can just watch gw2 unfold.

New Feature: just start the game and watch!

a level 20 gw1 55 monk would destroy a gw2 level 80 warrior
https://youtu.be/O6fCRmGBtnY

so just wake me up when you think the new skills and traits are to your liking, then i can play benny hill music while i dodge and hit buttons that light up in pvp …zzzzzzz

or maybe they are holding a closed beta just for them ^.^

i’m just reflecting what i’m reading on the forums and trying to find a middle ground that would confuse everyone equally. I’m personally rallying for more intelligent pvp so hardcore pvp’rs don’t have to fight like twits in gw2, but everything is not about just me. we the people have spoken.

ok i figured out a solution – vets get expansion for 45 dollars plus character slot,, and new players have to pay 55 bucks. – this whole fiasco is their fault for not having bought guildwars years ago….so it’s only right – they still get core game for only 5 bucks which isn’t a bad deal but they have to accept some responsibility for disrupting our peace loving community, this use to be the friendliest most supportive game on the net before they got here!

oh, and the price hasn’t changed, it’s still 50….but vets pay 5 dollars less, new players pay 5 dollars more. so it’s only a 5 dollar difference, not 10 ^.^

i’m sure someone would qualify for the 50 dollar price though, just haven’t figured out who yet.

the open events are good for socializing, – im always running with zergs in wvw or fighting dragons in events ……

For me personally it’s the dungeons that are a pain in the kitten, sometimes the areas are just plain empty, other times people want “pros to do speed runs” i hate those, i enjoy the rpg adventure and want to ‘discover’ something new, not obsessively farm an item. not everyone simply enjoys being a noob. Contrary to popular beliefs, the dungeons are not lined up with people eagerly awaiting to have a fun adventure.

and i don’t want to join a guild that wants me to play their way every time i log on, just so i can do a dungeon run every tuesday and friday at 4 pm because that’s how they roll. No orwellian gaming for me please.

so much for gliding a kitten storm on my enemies in wvw :/

simple solution, update gw1 and connect it to gw2

the lore can be you can only get to each area by o.b.e – astral travel or like in gta 5 you eat mushrooms or something…

the new skill / spell system is great for adventuring, the old system is great for pvp
don’t fix them, improve them as they are, where they are.

unless they made areas that catered to different psychological conditions…….heck a zone designed for schizophrenics might actually be fun.

just imagine a compulsive / obsessive christmas event …..npc’s – just repeating “jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle bells!” over and over for the event….

and of course my add hometown where I ask for directions and end up with a new recipe for my chef….that could be fun…

but i agree, don’t center the game around just 1 disorder.

and yes, being normal should also be considered a disorder. the world has lost it’s kittens, normal is a buzzword, not a standard.

we need our henchmen / heros back from gw1 to fill that void

people are beautiful and all, but sometimes the game is more fun than they are….amirite?

either that or a questionnaire system for making groups to make sure you aren’t rolling with obsessive compulsive sociopaths – i mean, i have nothing but love for them, but sometimes i don’t want to finish a dungeon in 2 minutes flat, i may want to stop and smell the cave moss.