Guild Wars 2

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Ricky.4706:

u wont get an argument from me there, in the last few matches we were winning by 200k so that got a little slow for us, t3 is a new level of warfare…. i was taking advantage of the camping scenario to tweak my build, was working out well too, your guys were going out of their ways to take me out as soon as I stepped into battle, my skill lag was so bad from everyone on my kitten that 1/2 second casts were taking like 10 seconds lol

carry on! I have complete faith in Darkhaven, and it’s a nice change from op’ng every match up. May you guys be so lucky as to get camped in your future fights!

To be fair, we do sux as a server. Way too many don’t even have the basic of trying to finish the opponents or res anything even if you vapor form to their feet. That being said, it changes nothing about Faguuma behavior being PPT/troll oriented rather than fight/skill oriented.

actually, i think we are great ……you have to consider that mag is a whole community that played together in another game, eve – they are basically what we would be if gw2 started playing eve. – everything i’ve seen them do has been like a server wide guild…..DH has amazing roaming community, that work loosely like a guild – we do very well…..now to stay in t3, we will have to function tighter like a community.

I enjoy the way we work now, but the competition just got kicked up a notch and we need more numbers, in addition to more server wide strategies. Turtle shells exist, we need them. it’s simple…..DH are badkittens that moved up in rank. I’m proud of you guys and very honored to be a part of DH.

think about it, if we went up against a t1 #1 server right now, it would be the same thing, simply because they have the population to do it.

before we met up with maggie – we were 2-300k leads in matches – we outgrew our class. that’s a great thing. …now for the next step!

my apologies in advance, to the t4 servers that we face after this rofl!

yeah, the duels were hard, every time i was about to rip the face off of a magpie – i had like 2-3 others pop up out of nowhere. I’m still trying to figure out how they 1 shotted me though lol…..I was going over the damage list, they were in some cases doing 300% damage from the base damage….impressive. take no damage, insta-1shot kills and more siege than you can wiggle a finger at. I’d like to see how the ‘elitist’ pve raiders handle that one!

I’m pretty sure it’s that way all the way up to t1 by the mere population increase.

u wont get an argument from me there, in the last few matches we were winning by 200k so that got a little slow for us, t3 is a new level of warfare…. i was taking advantage of the camping scenario to tweak my build, was working out well too, your guys were going out of their ways to take me out as soon as I stepped into battle, my skill lag was so bad from everyone on my kitten that 1/2 second casts were taking like 10 seconds lol

carry on! I have complete faith in Darkhaven, and it’s a nice change from op’ng every match up. May you guys be so lucky as to get camped in your future fights!

with all I said, I’d like to define Darkhaven as a Neutral Server – we are roamers that love to fight, we learn from every fight, if someone wishes to fight fair , we will fight fair ….but you can be quite sure that we will learn every dark trick we can from these matches with every intention of bashing maguuma in future matches #bff

i’m very curious to see if any server is brave enough to declare themselves a “good” server rofl!! I can see it now 2 evils vs 1 good server match.

I wonder what kind of effect it would have in the community balancing the server populations ?!

ya, they have some of the grimiest tactics, obnoxious attitudes, and odious techniques i’ve seen in game, I’m sure they have their bad points too!! lol

they actually remind me very much of some of the first – villain type adversary guilds from the very early pvp days. The developers back then had a hard time pinning anything on them too lol……ole maggie brings back memories of fun times…..dang kittens……….back then i was part of the only team that could challenge the bad guys too. except this time i’m not competing, just laughing and enjoying the memories :p

i’m telling you guys now, not anet nor the community will be able to pin anything on them…..they are a great evil server. lol – all the hate posts just help them climb their ladders of choice heh!!

anet has no idea how much fun they are missing out by not including evil, neutral and goodies as an alignment in gw2 ( not to mention all the extra merchandising that will come with it :p ) – further, anet employee / wvwrs will never admit they’d want to be part of an evil guild…… evil players that pretend to be goodies are why neutrals exist. ^.^

psss – the key is remembering this is an “RPG” game, cops need robbers. don’t take it personal, it’s just a game. it only stops being fun when you forget it’s just a game.

like it or not, whether anyone is willing to admit it or not, mag’s form of foul play brings meaning to winning a wvw match.

ya, be sure to ask them about their 1 shot skills – will pierce right through your earth armor like it didn’t exist. you literally die in one hit, great stuff.

Double teaming doesn’t bug me actually, whenever a server makes a focus on you to keep you camped….it’s technically double teaming you because you aren’t effectively defending your land……

my problem with it all, is the things that favor extreme groups – such as things you can only get as a guild that can afford to upgrade your stuff to op items to be used in wvw ….and things that you have to go with extreme teams in raids to get new ‘improved’ stats on ascended items……..all this recent activity has really highlighted for me just how unfriendly gw2 has become to casual players – not because of the players, but because of the rules of getting op tools. you can’t blame oc players wanting op tools to do op damage to casual players that don’t have time to do all that op kitten. the rules to getting better stats, basically favor people who do nothing else but play games all day – thus elitist.

Otherwise, it should actually be great practice to face intense competition, further you should appreciate being thought of in that way, obviously someone thought you were enough of a threat to focus on.

everyone should be happy things have moved beyond pvdoor.

Puck.9612:

I’ve been solo roaming EB on a druid and having a blast. The bl’s are pretty dead but hopefully that will change once the alpine returns. Not sure what Ricky is talking about… I’ve had a number of DH groups fail to stealth bomb me… maybe it works on some people?

hey, it’s your recruiting thread, as a #bff i do expect to have some say in what we expect from our adversaries in maguuma, blobs, and turtle shells…. anything less would not be maguuma.

take my advice mag, don’t solo roam vs darkhaven…… you have the turtle shell, enjoy it, don’t push your luck – tears will fall.

and no whining when someone from Darkhaven destroys you for trying to roam solo. Maguuma is like the borg, you roll with them or don’t roll at all, they have no time for tears.

they have no idea how hostile t3 servers are to each other, t2’s worst nightmare would be t3 double teaming them. t1 will understand fear.

#illuminati #operation-goa’uld

I’m happy to see everyone sitting at a round table discussing this…. no matter what server or “team” we are on, we are really one big team that loves to fight in wvw.

Hopefully these continued objective discussions, will get the developers to work more closely with the wvw’rs to make a playing field we can all enjoy.

This isn’t really about winning for your server pride anymore, as much as it’s about having a fun game where we like competing in.

Hopefully anet will listen to us more than to pvers about how to fix wvw.

so cheers to everyone…. I am happy to hear about the kitten raising in wvw with all the transfers and sudden bloodbaths, I recognize that as the community trying to help make wvw fun again….and I hope that anet joins us and works with us while they update the game.

so cheeers to you all.

ps – i won’t blame mag, because in all honesty, if anet gave me an op tutrle shell , i’d be first in line to solo camp all of maguuma and dance on their corpses. if for nothing else, to let them know i care. lol

hey, lets be real, to have a legendary battle, we need an evil empire to fight, our foes are important, without it we wouldn’t have a game to play.

#nationalloveyourfoeday #occupywvw

thats why i like mag actually, if there is something that is op, extreme or imbalanced, you can count on them to abuse it. to me that’s a good thing because a – it makes me a better fighter, b- they highlight what needs to be fixed.

Dear Anet – study maguuma, just nerf anything they like abusing and that will naturally balance wvw lol :p

their biggest advantage is their server is mostly or works like one large guild…that have worked together in the past in eve

DH on the other hand, are like minded roamers that while we work like a guild, we aren’t formally one large guild …that may change though as from this match I’m quite sure smaller guilds will start building up their war rooms and start assimilating those tactics while adapting them to include the majority of roamers in DH. We do have great wvw guilds. …just not large ones….at least not as large as maguuma.

who knows…maybe dh should consider making an open DH roamers server guild – where it’s not exactly a main guild …but more of a channel everyone in DH can join when needed.

all the same though, it is disappointing that anet rules severely imbalances the game if you are not in a big guild grinding for stat advantages. anet really needs to address this point. I love you anet, but your rules endorse elitism, in wvw and pve for that matter……by accident or on purpose is irrelevant. please fix.

way before that, its a war game …sandbox no less. in a true competitive field, you have to state the rules, else there will be eye gouging or death matches. So i can not blame you in any way, if anything, i think it’s great how you guys squeezed every bit of op into your strategy. The great thing about DH players, is the core players love the challenge….usually people who transfer midway expect to win all the time…..the core players just love fighting and learning new tactics lol. I can assure you after this match our next opponent will endure great pain…and we will have new tricks up our sleeve in our next meet up with you. it’s always been that way.

tbh, i’m having fun with those fights, and i do honestly believe magoona to be elite players, they don’t hesitate to pull out the worst of wvw – they’d be an awesome evil guild if there were such a thing in wvw …but on a more serious note, they sum up well of all the things in wvw that can be abused. I don’t blame them for it because in truth, anything that can be done legit in wvw is fair game, and they are simply taking the path of least resistance, thats warfare brilliance….I don’t choose my #bff’s lightly… I have to point at the anet dungeon master for allowing such a scenario to exist.

so with much respect I do sincerely say, great work maguuma. :p

we obviously have your respect too, else why dedicate all your attention in the match to us ? don’t sleep on us, you have the right idea. stay on it, don’t rest! we both know that dh will not hesitate to eliminate you the moment you close your eyes. your moves are wise.

they just don’t understand, Darkhaven does not stop, it doesn’t matter if we are overwhelmed, out numbered, fighting people who are constantly invulnerable. We just don’t stop, I would gladly die 50 times to spike one of you to your death while 50 of your friends watch you die helplessly. I did it a few times too, I did a few suicide ports just to eliminate a downed player surrounded by your ‘friends’.

Fear isn’t about winning, fear is about never letting you rest. no, it’s not over, get your tutle shells ready. heed our advice and hide, leave work or school early if you have to, because that one moment you drop your guard may be your last.

Darkhaven.

which btw, camping us is technically double teaming us, there is no honor in your war…..the score doesn’t really matter to us, watching you give us so much devoted attention does. You love us dearly, and yes, we are worth every minute of it.

Ogre.3124:

Ricky.4706:

Invulnerable, Evade, Block., Block, Block.

I was seeing that on people who weren’t in downed states, didn’t come up from downed states either, over and over …I’ve never seen anything like it before…is this a new feature ? and if so, what’s the build that causes this god mode ?

they were constantly going invulnerable. and I mean lots of people were going invulnerable. Not just one profession.

If you’re talking about at Maguuma’s spawncamping of DH (by your other posts you are) this was me doing this. Was using our turtle banner off of respawn which gives a spammable block bubble, a 4 skill which slows your skills (gives us resistance), a 3 skill which gives aoe invulnerable (only 3-4 seconds), and my favorite the 5 skill which knocks back your entire zerg for 4-5k damage.

relax, i kitten love you guys, you are basically all of eve in one server lol….to be honest, being camped was the most fun i’ve had in a long time, it brought back fond memories of our first exodus when core members just stopped playing and those that stayed kept fighting! I hope i made a few of you some good gold by how many times i died lol! so thank you if anything. I’m the guy that kept doing suicide runs to take down your trebs rofl! I consider the current magumma crew my perfect adversary -hugs- #bff ( bestie foes for life )

If anything , we should thank you, you guys showed a major flaw in wvw – I’m not in a guild and have no plans to be in one, unless i decide to start one…but i enjoy jumping around tbh – I’ll never have that turtle shell to hide under….so I expect to die…but at least i have you as proof to show anet whats wrong with wvw. <3

we really need a little yellow wvw bus mini!!! I want one!!

Puck.9612:

I’m enjoying T3.
Mags ratio is
Kills: 19,883
Deaths: 8,760
Ratio: 2.27

that’s actually pretty low considering how it’s near impossible to land damage on you. lol

kudos on the godly builds – never seen anything like it before since gw1.

invincible, invincible, invincible, evade evade evade evade, block, block, block, block, block, 0 damage, 0 damage, 0 damage …../repeat.

great stuff. you saved your best wine for us! <3

i know there are skills, such as on the guardian that have a few seconds of invincibility, but this just seemed that it was non stop defenses on a variety of players. first I would see invulnerable like 5 times in a row, in red, then like 5 evades, then followed up by 5 blocks, then a bunch of zero damage ….and I even tried logging on with a few different characters, to try different attacks ….some pure physical, others pure condition, with ascended spike builds… the only one that seemed to have any effect was my druid …..since he just kept autocasting faster than the rest, I would just keep scanning around to see if anyone wasn’t in god mode and found a few, but for the most part a good chunk of the enemy frontline was pure god mode.

put it to you this way, if both sides had the same build, no one would die period.
I kind of find it hard to believe that anet would build such a mechanic, even for an elitist that’s pretty extreme.

it was a pretty large skirmish, and pretty much everyone i was hitting was having the same result, the closest thing I can imagine was that turtle banner, although I don’t remember seeing any banner of the sort, but then not like that’s something you look for when you dodging and attacking everything coming at you. I’ve never seen anything like it before. ( other than in pve ) – the skirmish was fairly evenly matched too, so I wasn’t the only one experiencing it.

Put it to you this way, it’s enough to make someone want to just stop playing wvw till it’s addressed, you kind of feel silly after about 15 minutes fighting someone in god mode. – actually it was more like a few hours.

actually, thanks for that ……I wasn’t seeing “invulnerable” in white, it was red – and they weren’t almost down……they didn’t just come up….. they were simply invulnerable, then I saw like 5 consecutive evades, followed up by another 5+ blocks ….

I don’t even mean “Like” a god mode, I mean, actually a god mode, completely untouchable – for a long time… it was quite extreme else I wouldn’t even ask.

well, not have to….. but that’s quite poorly thought out, especially since many players are roamers. It’s yet another elitist game mechanic that messes up the game for the majority of non guilded roamers.

I’m not even going to suggest that it get nerfed either, I’m starting to think that if you don’t want to join a guild, this just isn’t the game to be in. I get it “Guild” wars. every guild i join either dies or are run by obsessive gamers, so I like to roam, but you obviously get penalties for that. vs god mode no less. lol

yes, i saw that. pretty amazing how useless it makes fighting heh.

could be, but it said invulnerable and it wasn’t taking conditions either. i also saw 0 damage, lots of blocks, non stop evades. it was pretty crazy, if a banner can do all that….then wow.

Invulnerable, Evade, Block., Block, Block.

I was seeing that on people who weren’t in downed states, didn’t come up from downed states either, over and over …I’ve never seen anything like it before…is this a new feature ? and if so, what’s the build that causes this god mode ?

they were constantly going invulnerable. and I mean lots of people were going invulnerable. Not just one profession.

name that tune!

cranos.5913:

Ricky.4706:

cranos.5913:

Ricky.4706:

u know, in gw1, you unlocked things once, and the runes and armors were easily interchangeable without having to rebuild a whole new component and repurchase, craft, grind supplies for stuff – the new armor / stat / trinket system is a potato imo.

these new raid issues wouldn’t be as bad as they are now if we used that old system.
alot of things that were not broken in gw1 were “fixed” in gw2.

there was a time that upgrades, updates and expansions were something to look forward to, not dread. :/

u know in gw2, you craft your ascended once, and you can put it on different characters. Trinkets are easy to get considering all you need to do is log in and runes are generally not expensive anymore.

and how is that at all convenient for people with more than 5 different characters ?

Swapping some weapons out is ridiculously inconvenient I’m sure. Or were you referring to the ascended armor you don’t even need?

i’m referring to 3 grades of armor, light medium, heavy and the many combinations of items you can use with them in runes, sigils and trinkets….. it’s unreasonable to ask the gamer to stock all those up in their vaults – especially when their vaults are already full of material to make them to begin with.

in gw1, you unlocked the item individually and were able to mix and match on the spot for any special occasion. Huuuuuuuuuuuge ( yuuuuuuuge ) difference from the system in place now, it actually limits player progression because a player can’t freely tweak his build for the best stats. let’s be honest, making a variety of stat build ascended isn’t easy, and it doesn’t help that the game isn’t a one build fits all scenario.

imo – the problem is actually 50/50

the game itself is great, the rules are basically psychotic.

Example – you need a new ingredient, fiffles to make the new wiffle-faffle item…..they create a new area farfle, and farfle is a bit difficult, because you need a wiffle ward, to get the wiffle ward you need 4,000 fiffles. You need 8,000 fiffles to make a wiffle-faffle item but you need 4,000 fiffles to make the wiffle-ward in order to get the wiffle-faffle item, since you need to beat the farfle queen to get a fiffle’s essence item at the end of the mission.

stay with me -

Now you get a few guys that secretly let themselves get obsessively face roled in farfle to get 4,000 fiffles to make the wiffle-ward. People start complaining because now these guys are saying on lfg – “Farfle run, people with wiffle-wards only.”

people start complaining because they don’t all play for fiffles in farfle because they just don’t have days of time to get facerolled for fiffles, and the guys flaunting wiffle-faffle items start crying on the forums that everyone is whining, and want to nerf the only part of the game they love, ….these same people come on a few months later complaining that they are bored. anet nerfs the farfle, so everyone else can play…..and next season they make the poople, and the same people go out there secretly getting facerolled in the game to get pipples to get the pimple-ward to finish the area and start the same nonsense all over again in the lfg.

it’s a twisted co-dependent process that never ends….it starts with ‘we listened’ and ends with ‘you don’t care, i’m leaving’ – repeat.

or we can try group counseling maybe ?

let’s face it, from developer to community, yall are a few fries short of a happy meal. we may need a little pro help here. ^.^

cranos.5913:

Ricky.4706:

u know, in gw1, you unlocked things once, and the runes and armors were easily interchangeable without having to rebuild a whole new component and repurchase, craft, grind supplies for stuff – the new armor / stat / trinket system is a potato imo.

these new raid issues wouldn’t be as bad as they are now if we used that old system.
alot of things that were not broken in gw1 were “fixed” in gw2.

there was a time that upgrades, updates and expansions were something to look forward to, not dread. :/

u know in gw2, you craft your ascended once, and you can put it on different characters. Trinkets are easy to get considering all you need to do is log in and runes are generally not expensive anymore.

and how is that at all convenient for people with more than 5 different characters ?

u know, in gw1, you unlocked things once, and the runes and armors were easily interchangeable without having to rebuild a whole new component and repurchase, craft, grind supplies for stuff – the new armor / stat / trinket system is a potato imo.

these new raid issues wouldn’t be as bad as they are now if we used that old system.
alot of things that were not broken in gw1 were “fixed” in gw2.

there was a time that upgrades, updates and expansions were something to look forward to, not dread. :/

i don’t care for raids at all, i don’t want to go anywhere that requires pre-set teams, I’ve said this over and over again, it breeds elitists…… I’m a roamer I enjoy open world…Hard content doesn’t bother me, closed (minded ) groups do.

Raids belong behind guilds, not in public….It’s bad pr.

I still speak up on raids all the same because ascended pvp content is gated behind it. In other words, this is a mess…..and at this point, I’d have to point back at anet for forcing this issue. Elitists and casuals don’t play well together, why is anet leaving them public and gating yassith’s and other trinkets behind it ?! is this some effort from someone that wants to watch us argue ?

the game itself is fine, the rules are causing pandemonium.

You can’t tell me that people who have so many many years experience in making games, had no idea that mixing casuals and elitists is bad…..

elitism in itself isn’t bad – it’s what the olympics is based on…only the elite win those medals…..but sending them to local softball game to call everyone a scrub and insult them isn’t right either. “I’d never put a pitcher like you in my team! Ugh!” – if that happened in real life, not only would local parks stop having softball games, but people would start to hate and protest the olympics too.

you can learn a lot about a dungeon master if you study his rules carefully.

cranos.5913:

Ricky.4706:

cranos.5913:

Sadly not much that you write makes sense. Everyone has the same right to post in the LFG to find like-minded people to clear content with.

sadly it sounds like you lack comprehension. Everyone has the right to play the game without having elitism imposed on them.

How exactly is anyone imposing elitism on you? rofl

easy, normal people don’t even bother with it because the people who are afraid to die are dominating lfg – elitists smell bad and they are always at the gate.

the more i think about this , the more i see that raids do belong behind guilds – people are complaining that guild missions are getting old / boring, and open world are complaining that lfg raids are basically making demands as all pugs should obey their rules as if they were in the same guild.

This really should be very obvious by now.

so one could say we are holding on to what we’ve done, not what we are doing ?

gw1 would have survived.

if for some crazy reason everyone’s character was wiped, and they had to start over from day 1…. do you think most of the people that didn’t leave would start over ?

that would be the real gauge of how modern day gw2 is performing.

would gw2 hot survive a total reset ?

i’ve been playing since gw1 started, I know how fun it was and could be. I’m tainted.

there is nothing about this new grinding rules, gated content and elitism that pays honor to what gw1 was. 1 character was an endless amount of builds in gw1 – in gw2 1 armored character is months of work to have some obsessive player tell you it’s not good enough.

Even with elitism in GW1, you didn’t have to grind your life away to get a new build – it was all there and you could change your build set up in minutes. – if anything they were elitists about rank, not armor.

again, elitism has it’s place, but it’s become the gw2 theme. heavy grind, stressful goals, and elitism. it’s one thing to play competitively, it’s quite another to simply have fun playing and developing your character / story.

want 1 mastery point ? explore every thing in almost every part of the game or collect these items after you play every part of this 5 part adventure flawlessly, or get the highest possible rating possible for another mastery point….and you need mastery points to buy better stats. if that’s not elitism, i don’t know what is.

Ohoni.6057:

actually no, it’s a build that does a lot of effect triggering – very powerful offensive and defensive, i’m not going into it because it don’t want it to become meta or draw attention to it. lol

one of my hobbies is inventing builds, and you can do some very nice builds by combining traits, stats and runes / sigils to kick in extra bonuses. last thing we need is to give elitists ideas of extremely specific builds. “no, trust me the chicken bone is important!!”

I’m not saying it’s not a good build, I’m just not sure the raids would want it. Basically, if you aren’t the tank, then any amount of toughness is a liability, at least in several of the fights, because it would draw agro away from the tank. Even if as an individual you can perform better than any of the other members, it would damage the strategies the way they’re designed. So maybe you could be the tank, but if you weren’t the tank and tried to do that, it could be trouble.

Again, I don’t think it necessarily should be that way, but that’s how it currently is. Personally, I do wish that the raids encouraged more experimentation and diversity, rather than insisting on certain compositions.

exactly! that’s the point, it’s dominated by a “play this way or don’t play at all” which goes against the whole grain of what gw started to be, play it your way. we were playing it our way, and that never got boring because there are a million different ways to skin a quaggan. not anymore though, elitism pigeonholes builds and anet caters to it. – solution, don’t even bother with raids…..i’m finding myself not even bothering with a lot of new things because of this actually. I’m down to a very few things i like to play in gw2, which is sad really because there really is so much to do – if we put elitism and the rules it follows in its place – which is not in my face! ( had to put that cuz it rhymed lol )

nothing really for me…….i was already looked at as a lab rat. from this point on, it’s not about faith and belief in them, it’s about ….these game doctors know how to make a good game, either they make it and i’ll play it, or i’ll find something else that is either productive or fun while they figure it out.

It’s like having someone you used to think of as a best friend, and one day you see that they are just manipulating you. – the game changes. Nothing personal about it anymore. I get it, what can they do to get me to spend money….it’s all good, it’s all business, i can play that too, what can i do to not spend money. nothing personal.

none of that “omg, my best friend needs me now!!” anymore. it’s just a game.
They are a game developer, i am a customer. nothing wrong with that.

there was a time, that i would travel many miles just to get a magazine that did a write up about guildwars and had a code for a special mini, it meant a lot to me to support my friends who showed me a ton of fun back then. every expansion was a guaranteed sale with me, because of all the fun they showed me during holidays and i had momentos of every christmas and holloween they did that made me smile. in fact, the best new items out were our gifts. – that’s over.

today my vault is full of meaningless trinkets in a game trying to sell me more space. I’m left to choose what to throw away.

Ohoni.6057:

i have a character that’s a pve beast – i pretty much do nose dives into hoards in dragon stand and do champs solo, can solo a whole heck of a lot in most parts of the game, and it’s hardly ascended – i have the build to handle a raid, i just don’t like playing with elitists, they are simply annoying, i don’t want to have to deal with their paranoia and fear of death. is that so wrong ?

The funny thing is, and keep in mind that I’m on your side here, but from the sounds of it they might want to keep you out of the raid anyway. It sounds like you have a pretty tough build, and maybe that would be useful as the tank, maybe not. If you can’t be the tank though, they will really hate you having any kind of defensive capabilities, you’re meant to be full glass. I’m not defending that, mind you, just relaying what I’ve been told by raiders on the matter.

actually no, it’s a build that does a lot of effect triggering – very powerful offensive and defensive, i’m not going into it because it don’t want it to become meta or draw attention to it. lol

one of my hobbies is inventing builds, and you can do some very nice builds by combining traits, stats and runes / sigils to kick in extra bonuses. last thing we need is to give elitists ideas of extremely specific builds. “no, trust me the chicken bone is important!!”

i have a character that’s a pve beast – i pretty much do nose dives into hoards in dragon stand and do champs solo, can solo a whole heck of a lot in most parts of the game, and it’s hardly ascended – i have the build to handle a raid, i just don’t like playing with elitists, they are simply annoying, i don’t want to have to deal with their paranoia and fear of death. is that so wrong ?

cranos.5913:

Sadly not much that you write makes sense. Everyone has the same right to post in the LFG to find like-minded people to clear content with.

sadly it sounds like you lack comprehension. Everyone has the right to play the game without having elitism imposed on them.

hrmm, i just came up with a simple solution for the issue I point to….

why not make 2 modes of lfg – normal …and hardcore mode

this way new and casual players can easily find similar players, and the lfg won’t be flooded with “elite” requests. it used to work like that in diablo 2, and everyone played with players at their own skill levels – worked out great.

a system like that can easily sort out casual players vs the guys that wear tin foil hats. ^.^

the content is fine – hardcore and all, letting elitist rule the lfg in the game is not.

the problem is mixing people who “need” to get everything right all the time over and over and over again, vs people who just want to have a fun hardcore adventure – finishing with flying colors not necessary.

maybe the answer is making a super dooper face pooper hardcore raid mode in guilds only, so the elitists can leave lfg for the ‘non pros’, and keep their elitism out of public view.

the game isn’t the problem, the people who try to dominate the game with their elitist meta-philosophies is.

I’ve played since gw2 first came out, leveling was definitely more enjoyable for me back then, than it was this time around, fortunately I had leveling scrolls – but with the old way, I use to play way above my level, and I had fun doing it, sort of my newbie hard core mode, now all the gating kinda makes me feel like i’m being punished, limited, forced to wait. i actually use to have fun doing a bunch of stories at a time and leveling up using a variety of ways, that freedom is gone now and it feels more like i’m on a leash.

I suppose anet felt challenged by obsessive players that try to finish the game in one day and complain there is nothing left to do, they sorta kittened the casual crowd that don’t follow that elitist way of life.

the idea that gw2 modeling itself to be a WoW annex and actually becoming a Gw2 killer is ironic eh ?

the very title of this thread is actually elitist – “why are people so afraid of raiding”
an appropriate elitist answer ( i am an elitist debater ) would be “How stupid are you ?”

further, since this area of content may “not be for you” – it should be located somewhere private, that’s also not for me, all I’m getting from most of these posts is that anet in fact wants to breed elitists. the fact that this issue should be common sense – but is not recognized, can only mean to me that anet is full of elitists that think it’s ok to make this kind of game play open to anyone to be rejected.

it really should be a private guild thing, if for nothing else but to keep elitism out of lfg.

If you hate mmos, you will love raids…..does not rhyme.

actually, i’ve experienced something similar in pve – I blamed it on lag, but after reading this thread it’s obviously more a bug.

What happened in my case is I was lagging bad, yet i was watching chat in real time, I would run through a bunch of npcs and not take damage, then like 100 feet later, I started taking damage from what appeared to be invisible creatures – when in reality, i got attacked 100 feet ago, and apparently died 100 feet ago, but I dropped 100 feet later. Was really weird, I checked, and a few others had lag as well. And while I’m calling it lag, now I’m starting to think it was something simply out of sync as if I was on 2 different servers at the same time – one server real time with chat and npcs reacting normally, but another server lagging with damage.

it wasn’t something i could exploit, and it tend to happen during peak hours – made me wonder if it had something to do with being in ncsofts network while BDO was super active…..even stranger was that I was experiencing this lag in an empty map of dragon stand – i only experience bad lag like that in huge wvw fights – not an empty dragon stand map.

note: while this may not be the same thing the op is posting about, i would think this is how my character would have looked like to someone else, when i was lagging and technically died about 1-2 minutes earlier, yet still was able to roam and died further down the path to invisible creature attacks on my screen, no disconnect either, i was able to teleport after. was weird.

omg, am I actually agreeing with Vayne!?? -cough cough- wow! the struggle is real! lol

- ps – i call it elitism because they basically reject anyone that doesn’t play to their spec, the rejection is elitism. you are on point with your observation though. Elitism has it’s place too, that’s what tournaments are built on. A raid should be an adventure, not a tournament.