15v15 gvg and bay gets hit by JQ. SoR sends entire map zerg to wipe gvg instead of just dealing with bay. That is their justification for ruing a GvG. You guys repped multiple tags trying to hide what? You guys are dirt. NO answers or excuses can amount to your BS. You wanted to troll and kitten people off that’s it.
I don’t recall you being so angry when your own server interrupts other guilds’ GvG. Double standards? Wee.
not angry. I cant control BT like JQ can’t control the forces that hit bay.
Last I looked, BT is no longer running around in their guild zerg – it seems some have moved on, some are taking extended breaks, and others are just running with other guilds.
oh i miss the SOR and their animated GIFs, where did they go.
forums seems to be so boring with them gifs.You need to first attract the trolls. This may work. Lets see.
oh nice…
SOR wiped BG, BG wiped JQ and JQ wiped SOR but BG wiped better squeaky clean not even the roaches survived.
is that good enough to bait them?
But just now, CA ran from us .. soo
did you sign a new contract with Nike?oh it started! that was a good bait.
CA do not wear nike, we are sponsored by Jordan, MJ why walk when you can port.
portal bomb that is LOL.Nono, HB have the right to portal bomb, sadly CA are only at the level of running
LMAO, you never cease to crack me up, Shifty. <3
No, hell no, just NO. OMG.
As for squishy builds in fractals, my personal experience is at 38/48 even full PVT get downed in a few hits so might as well go full glass cannon and kill the mobs before they kill us.
This is incorrect, but of course, must be the PvE meta thinking behind justifying the logic of using all zerker gear or going full glass cannon – kill first or be killed mentality. Accordingly, if you have PvE peeps/guardians running around in PVT gear and getting downed in a few hits, they need to either re-roll a new profession or L2P their current profession and build (and get some agony resistance to boot). I run full PVT in WvW and even getting focus-fired, do not go down in a “few hits.”
But just now, CA ran from us .. soo
did you sign a new contract with Nike?
That is simply hilarious….Nike contract, lmao. Nice one. That said, no doubt you and a number of fabulous guilds on SoR (TW, IRON, FEAR, etc.) have long had Nike contracts as it relates to running away given most guilds do such to re-position, etc., but yeah, whatever. lmao…Nike contract. Wow.
According to IRON’s definition of a ‘wipe’, it isn’t possible for any zerg to wipe, unless they were a small group of 10-15 which got taken by surprise.
Umm, FYI, if just one escapes from that 10-15, you did not ‘wipe’ it…. /s
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My WvW necro tank build:
0/0/30/30/10
All PVT
Axe/Dagger with Staff
http://i41.tinypic.com/2iuuvd3.jpg
Bags galore, love it, especially using it frontline to lead a zerg into combat…
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RIOT’s definition of small team roaming synonymous with gank squad, and run away from anything actually challenging.
Though in all fairness your group setup is tight. Don’t presume to kitten with these guys if you haven’t got your kitten together.
They run away from anything actually challenging? LMAO, your smoking what? Most anyone one that roams in WvW will run at some point and living to fight another day is bad? Right.
Interesting you made such a claim and yet gave a caveat to your claim by giving an “in all fairness” mention. RIOT is one of the best roaming and/or small group guilds around and not one to be taken lightly, at all. They wreck crap all the time, despite assertions that they “run away from anything actually challenging”…..no doubt you and Red Cobra have been wrecked by them extensively to come here and make such derogatory mentions and assertions. lol. =.=
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It is a set-up that can definitely work in WvW if grouped with other guardians. Mind you, it requires management but is doable. The guild I am in uses a spec like this but not all of our guardians use it.
Hello Mr Seigfried,
I concur with you. If BG and SOR could work together especially in SEA time JQ would have some serious work to do. JQ SEA has never been 2v1 for the last 6 months due to the intense rivalry between BG and SOR.
One of the only way for BG and SOR to work together is for the server trolls (on both sides) to keep their peace for ~4-6 weeks. I think we’ll be surprised at what goodwill might result from that. I am highly skeptical it can happen however.
FW
Check out his video from a dude in ICoa on the Blackgate server.
Lol! JQ is like the most bipolar server. One minute they’re double-teaming SoR with BG, next minute they’re double-teaming BG with SoR.
They are just taking advantage of the rivalry to win, which is completely fair. If BG and SoR teamed up, I have no doubt we could push them down to tier 2.
Well said, Fannwong.
Personally, I like a lot about SoR, especially with respect to TW, IRON, and a few other SoR guilds, until their forum warriors come on here and spew. Anyhow, again personally, I would love to see more goodwill ventures between SoR and BG, would make that alleged “fun” EMP and others on JQ are having become a bit of real “fun” at their expense instead of either SoR’s or BG’s or both our expenses……
On a scale of 1 to ‘Quit Trying’, where does BG rank this week…
You were where last week saying such about SoR? Thought so….
Can someone explain to me how axe boosts DS? This is the 2nd time I’ve read that.
This might help too.
http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/death-you-bring-staff-axe-fight/
Axe MH and dagger OH is the bomb….
Your showing a 15/25/0/0/30 build in Vol. II verses what you linked above, why?
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I use Moa for the lol’s in WvW sometimes. No doubt that if I encountered you in WvW, I would make it a point to Moa you then collect your badge.
the day where BG and SoR “2v1” JQ?
we can only imagine. shudder
Obliteration would have a new definition. To boot, maybe then we would see Grithan Soulforge come make a post concerning JQ getting kicked for TC…. ^^
PvE, wtfrak is that? Is that where those who cannot cut it in WvW go to play or something? /s
Do not be deluded into thinking that to have an effective necro power build for WvW that you have to have points in the power trait (spite). You definitely can have an effective necro power build without doing so. You simply need to determine your role in WvW – are you going to roam or small group or run with a zerg? My necro build is built/designed to be run with a zerg.
0/0/30/30/0
All PVT gear
Stack bloodlust
Use power related food buffs
All the power I need…..produces copious amounts of bags.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2iuuvd3.jpg
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All the people tbh that say mesmers dont need a 25% movement speed trait or signet.. is crazy.. stupid cuz tbh.. Every other class.. has acesss to swiftness.. without having to put on a rune set. or take.. a weapon. set ur stuck with if u get into combat and cant switch it out. like lets be honest here its verry much true..
Mesmer is the only class that u have to take a swiftness rune set and focus just to even roam around in pve aswell as if ur planning to roam a bit in WvW alone aswell. like come out every other class has access to extra swiftness BUT US how is that even fair at all ? i dont see how it will be OP.. some classes even have perma swiftness thats not OP ? lmao.. cant be serious man..
Can any of you whine and cry any harder? Geezus, mesmer has token means to acquire OOC speed and you just mentioned what they were – if YOU opt to not utilize them, then why whine and cry about not having OOC buffs – your simply whining because of the choice YOU made. =.=
You just said you don’t have a lot of people but you want good fights.
Stop being so sensitive and go GvG.
Ive been called alot of things, but never sensitive.. Are you flattering me? Im sorry to say this, but your not my type..
we as IRON wanna gvg HB. But HB dont wanna instead they go to forums to say they are outnummberd. kinda weird. (btw smokey you should practice your maths sometimes your 15-18 ppl look kinda big)
How many times does it have to be stated that we do not GvG? BTW, Smokee has no need to lie nor exaggerate numbers. As IRON knows, given we all know how IRON does its “math” which we simply call “you must be using IRON math”….one cannot help when pugs form up with you when guild running. Accordingly, Smokee does make it habit to respawn to get the pugs removed, so keep your bad mouth BS to yourself, unless of course you are running with us and have some clue as to what your talking about, kkthx. =.=
AHMAGAWD HB didnt portal away from us and came for a fight!!
#NewHB2013<3 you Smokee
(sucks i cant play currently, but listening to TS is so fun )
We do come out for fights when you run on your own and we have more than 15.
Right now we are running around with 18, trying to keep what we can with BG beeing outmanned in 3/4 maps. When you do form up that many that you cause skill lag we will port out of the map. Its not fun to play like that
I missed our more even open field fights
it saddens me that your numbers have declined :’(
Inactivity does take its toll, simply something that occurs, but yeah, it would nice if we did or were able to run around with greater guild numbers.
Remove autoattack from hammer skill #1….
You going to roam or run with a zerg?
This thread may prove useful to you, among others…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Power-or-Cond-in-wvw/first#post2682513
Virtual WD40 – wonderous stuff. ;-)
..and theoretically we never got wiped because atleast 5 were able to get away
hehe
Theoretically, really? For frakin’s sakes, if the vast majority of you get destroyed, you got wiped – I do not care if 1-5 “get away.” Nothing but parsing words. But yeah, remember that garbage the next time you or any other SoR entity claims to have ‘wiped’ someone over and over…..
If you know how to 1v1 – 1v2+, and definitely know your strengths and weaknesses as a warrior, this:
Well if you’re looking for proof of a double team, here’s the first photo. It shows the Borderlands at 12AM PST a couple nights ago as it was 2 nights in a row. Notice the even distribution of EB and SoR BLs while JQ and BG have all their keeps and towers in their own BL.
I’m not angry that you double team us, I’m flattered that you double team us, I’m disappointed that you lie about it and act like it’s not coordinated.
Anyone can pop up double team screens – this was taken during last week’s match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/etf6ur.jpg
Again, your still QQ’ing….get over it already, kkthx….
Yes, indeed, DEMANDS will get you anything and everything, bet. /s That is all.
So basically you are saying, its okay when SoR does it, bad when JQ and BG does it. Glad we could clear that up.
Good, glad you understand the concept of 2nd and 3rd place working together against 1st place. For a minute there I was beginning to wonder if you really believed 1st and 2nd place working against 3rd place was how it was suppose to work.
Thought I was losing my kitten mind.
You – SoR – brought the double team down upon your own selves….just like you had the last few times in previous other weeks. As such, do not QQ when you are getting slammed by that alleged double team, kkthx. Stay classy, SoR. /s
A little piece of me died watching your video Brutaly.
Honest question though – same fights but on your Guardian. How do you think you would have done?
Using a build that can do 16-18k damage in 8 seconds (thats the bleed burst i can set up) i would have to go pretty much with an offensive build and my survivability wouldnt be even be near that.
The issue is that we are talking about a bunker build doing that type of damage and over 500 passive regen per sec while almost immune to cc and has tons of cc one being on the chain.
The scary part is that i do better on my warrior (maybe 100 hours gametime) compared to my guardian (well over 2000 hours) without knowing how to play warrior.
If i swap two utilities for banners i stil have stability, perma regen + passive and ofc two great aoe buffs from the banners.
its silly tbh but i will enjoy it while it last. I quit playing guardian in wvw, for me its almost dead as a melee stormtropper. I will do one last test with melandru runes to see if its doable but i dont have the gold or time atm.
I think you will find that Melandru runes will not make that much of a difference. Personally, I am sticking with Soldier runes for my frontline Guardian.
I have a alt, maybe I should try that too. But I suck at leveling alts – lol.
Side note – I’m still pondering how I got hit for 15,542 earlier this evening on my Guardian. I don’t recall a huge zerg and 3 of us engaged a group of 4. I’m at about 17k health in DPS gear (zerk/solider mix and about 2600 armor). I see my health bubble go BAM and I ran like a little school girl
I look at the logs and it was a Kill Shot
I don’t think I’ve ever hit anyone even remotely that hard in WvW @ 80. Not even a up ticked player.
Zerked rifle warrior traited properly will do 14+K killshot all day long.
Reflective wall makes these guys go poof btw.
First tip from a fellow necro..don’t play a minion necro and expect to win in the majority of fights.
I advise you to check the current Necro meta builds that can easily destroy warriors.
As for WvW, necros are screwed due to condi reduction food. Has nothing to do with warriors.
Hogwash, Necros are not screwed in a WvW environment. Run enough of them together and I don’t care if your blood is made of lemongrass soup or any other condi-removal food, you will die. Also, if necros were screwed because of your flawed logic, there would not be the current meta of spike hammer warriors and guardians backed by necros and condi-ENGs zergs running around, eh? =.=
You will not survive the condi meta w/o 30 in Honor and it’s a good thing our Pure of Voice is bugged.
I’ve ran Hoelbrak + lemon + Purity/Gen Sigil + Healing Signet + Purity trat on my DPS build and it’s not enough w/ the amount of FOTM Engi’s and Condi Warriors out there.
Have you used Contemplation of Purity and/or Purging Flames coupled with the above? Also, do not use Save Yourself, it = instadeath in a heavy condi environment IF you do not immediately cleanse with either of the two I mentioned above.
Other than that, yeah, I agree that WvW has become a condi heavy environment and even with the the skills and soldier runes coupled with a condi removal build, it can still get really, really hairy out there for a Guardian in the current WvW condi-heavy environment of spike hammer Warriors and Guardians backed by condi ENGs and Necros zergs or small group.
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Score Update!
Tonight another GvG (clearly 15v15) against IRON and MERC (Really 1v1) occurred…. in the form of punting wars.
It was an intense battle with MERC (Cuddles) pulling ahead… then of course cunning IRON (Shifty) decided to level it to 4:4….sighs
Ending result was that IRON won the punting battle….
MERC: 4 IRON: 5 Sooo close! (Was first to 5)In conlusion, MERC can moa, but IRON can punt? I believe more punting and moa’ing battles should occur!
:D Lots of fun Shifty!
Yeah, this only confirms that I knew there was this ‘love’ thing going on between MERC and IRON…..
This is a PvE build or a WvW build?
I have serious reservations concerning the use of Save Yourself, even at the beginning of a battle because in the heat of a battle, especially running against spike hammers and necro heavy zergs, one untimely use of Save Yourself without having Contemplation of Purity or some such other conditions cleanser used right after will simply melt your Guardian to the ground in a heartbeat, bet.
Word. I actually had this happen to me last night. I wasn’t sure what I did or was thinking but I charged in and hit Save Yourself. I recall thinking to myself after.
“That was rather stupid” /palmToforehead
Glad someone else admitted this, I always thought I was the only one that had this happen to. Do not get me wrong, I love Save Yourself but since the necro patch that revived the mass use of necro’s in WvW, especially, dude, Save Yourself without using a mass condition cleanser right afterwards is insta-death. As a frontliner in HB, I cannot afford to get arsewiped by that type shiznick.; hence, I have removed its use from my skill bar.
This is a PvE build or a WvW build?
I have serious reservations concerning the use of Save Yourself, even at the beginning of a battle because in the heat of a battle, especially running against spike hammers and necro heavy zergs, one untimely use of Save Yourself without having Contemplation of Purity or some such other conditions cleanser used right after will simply melt your Guardian to the ground in a heartbeat, bet.
The way I see it, you have Leap of Faith and you also have the ability to slot and utilize Retreat when not in combat. likewise, you could slot a staff for added mobility when not in combat.
Congratulations on the win this week, JQ and congratulations on playing the PPT this week, SoR. Well played by all.
I have run two tank power builds that are frontline for leading zergs – both produce copious amounts of bags:
All PVT gear and accessories
0/10/30/30/0
0/0/30/30/10
axe/dagger with staff
Depending upon food buffs and full stacks of bloodlust, both can obtain 2700+/- power (this is with crests of the soldier). Lead with Plague (trait for chilling if possible) – blind, blind, blind and let frontline heavies kill.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2vc6bnm.jpg
Another option with these two builds that I have been playing with lately is to use Melandru runes with condition reduction food – makes using Plague and DS a smoother proposition. Power output with full stacks of bloodlust = 2500+
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the ranking between sor and jq is so close. Lets continue to steal bg fat ranking
Bring it – most of us on BG are currently in SoR mode: Fights > PPT.
Was great fun
While in the past, I have had some major grief with IRON, in truth, it is always fun to fight you guys…when your not running off to lala pub land EB. Likewise, it is also fun fighting against TW, etc. I concur with Smokee, if losing like this every week brings us those delicious fights, bring it.
What happened to all the love!?
SoR started chest thumping
Funny, because SoR isn’t even winning. Or maybe it is only when they are ahead of BG……
Bingo! Given a true 1v1 against BG, despite all their vaunted talk of their alleged superiority in open field fights, SoR would be in trouble…
I must be playing a different game because I see JQ push SoR during NA all the time. I’m pretty sure the only ppl who are saying that reside on bg.
Keep talking sport and please, keep believing and smoking what you do.
Snapped from NA time:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2n6aq29.jpg
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There is no “licking wounds,” mate Starscream. Come on, can’t we on BG for once just follow the longheld SoR mantra of we are training and Fights > PPT? Geesh, get with the program. /salute
Blah, blah, and blah.
Opps, my bad, we just looking for fights this week, while practicing, as well, Starscream.
Besides, overtime has been cancelled for the long haul too. Dern. /salute.
You missed the joke completely.
Actually, Starscream, you missed the joke completely. Did you not hear that we are “practicing” this week? /salute
I can’t take WvW vids seriously when it comes to roamers. Especially heavily edited ones. No idea if the opponents are level 2-80 and what they are specced as.
Of course you cannot, but since your obviously a sPvP expert, come to WvW and do the samething regardless of your “No idea if the opponents are level 2-80 and what they are specced as” garbage.
Here’s why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4E9N50lTs
Hey Starscream, I am glad that what I had said has prompted you all to indeed play for PPT instead of the known lie of “we play for fights only” garbage.
Reverse psychology, mate – see, the more crap I talked about IRON and SoR, the more angry you and all became; thus prompting you to compete this week instead of relying on those “we practicing this week” excuses. I see that it has worked wonderfully – please keep it up cause it will only force us, BG, to step up our game, as well. /salute.
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