I mean, if we’re gonna ask for things, how about the scorpion wire hits the target and only pulls the torso back. The head, arms, legs, remain behind.
Scorpion Wire FTW
So when are we resuming? I thought tonight, but no one showed.
I think Pyro’s having a break atm. Working on his speedo tan or something. If he ever makes it back from the beach im sure we’ll continue.
Question, is this a good build for learning Mesmer? I’m just lol at anything other than Necro and Ele
In WvW? Something like this should be pretty easy.
Pretty much play as follows. Kite, kite, kite, proc clones and phantasms, when you have three, shatter. Whenever you have a f1, f2, or f3 shatter up with 3 clones/phants, shatter. Kite, and kite some more. Weapon swap as you please. Use your stealths to break target and open gaps, kite. Proc clones, shatter, kite. Do this until the enemy is downed. Stealth, stomp, kite. Oh and, kite- do this while shattering and… yeah you get the idea.
Dire is a very forgiving stat, as is a stealth setup, as is PU for defensive boons.
If you want to move on to other builds etc, then, after getting your feet wet, read the tooltips, practice practice practice. And watching vids of other players using Mes will help.
As for the build in the OP, you could use it. It’s fairly easy to accidentally land interrupts for full condi potential. However interrupts are technically a pro players game. That said, I might tweak the original build if I were to use it now. Don’t know, haven’t revisited it XD
“http://tinyurl.com/Chronomistrust”
“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
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The other name for this team comp is 4 Masochists and 1 lucky guy XD
“http://tinyurl.com/Chronomistrust”
“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
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Context. Go for what?
snip.
Yeah, I didn’t watch Leeto’s video with that much care. It wasn’t so blatantly obvious when I fought him but I take your word for granted.
Mesmer main, it was interesting breaking down the impossibility of it XD
I had some matches against him and I asked him if he was lagging, he said yes, but I don’t buy it. He was moving like if he was, but I thought about some potential hacking too.
He’s definetly cheating and he has been doing it for a while now. Send this to the Anet’s exploit mail.
At 1:17 you see him go down, and with the defiant buffs procd, teleports to the reapers feet AFTER going down.
At 1:50 with no Mesmer in sight from the spawn to the point (mes isnt running any stealth from torch, no sign of decoy (is all wells), no MI cause Gwell), Mes appears on point proccing the Necro’s well.
At 2:04 Mes uses blured frenzy, then appears below the necro (possible blink, or teleport hack). Mes then iLeap’s to the left side of the necro. Necro gets caught in a stun lock and after breaking out attempts to heal at 2:11. In the same instant, at 2:11 Mes sword AA’s (missing necro, out of range), then at 2:12 teleports on top of the necro, striking him with another AA. Even if the mes is running blink, it’d be on CD (after 2:04), and iLeap clone wasn’t present. Even so, iLeap would still be on CD. Mes then dodge rolls away (2:13) and blurred frenzies (missing, out of range, no attack procs). After that, 2:15, mes teleports to necro again for stomp.
After all that, mesmer moves around freely, no teleporting, no jumping, no “lagging”, rofl.
It’s the 2:46 fight where things get really ridiculous as the mesmer repeatedly teleports off point to the necro’s feet and away again, over, and over, and over XD
Lag, what a funny guy.
Problem 1: Thieves arent OP faceroll high burst, stealth, impossible to kill anymore
Problem 2: Inexperienced scrub thieves die a lot
Problem 3: Related to Problems 1 and 2, other classes can kill thieves now unlike in the past
Reality 1: Thieves are amazing on the team, just got to use them properly. Let them rotate quickly, let them, +1. The bunkers can hold the points. Ez kitten pz.
but this build doesn’t have duel pistols OR venoms…
I heard you’ll get a
“I made it to Legendary
..and still lost a pip -_-u"
T-shirt
This might not be related, but has anyone seen mesmers magically able to port after their portal disappeared?
That has happened to me twice, but now that I think about it, it might be a clever way to disguise the fact they are telehacking.
Assuming what you’re saying is the portal expired before being opened, for this to happen…
Mesmer Portal still has 30s worth of CD if the portal is laid and never opened. So whatever you’re seeing, it’s highly doubtful its suspicious. You might just have the wrong idea.
3 Spawns, 3 Keeps, and an Orb of Power in the middle. Throw away all this other rubbish.
Let’s get it on!
Rofl, he’s so blatant about it too. And made it all the way to diamond too without being banned first XD
Dunno he covering tracks pretty good when i said im reporting he said “Im lagging, kitten and learn to play” almost believed.
Any Mesmer player would be able to look at him and say “Yep, that Mesmer has shadowstep with an initiative pool so large it’d make a Rev blush.”
In otherwords, no Mesmer should be portaling to your feet over and over again in the space of 10 seconds XD.
It was also funny to see him appear on point when you were capping/holding as he landed right in the well you’d dropped. If he’d actually run into the point 1) we’d of seen him coming, and 2) he would have rolled or gone around it (wasnt covering the whole point). After that it was eternal blinks into your face and away again XD
Rofl, he’s so blatant about it too. And made it all the way to diamond too without being banned first XD
Anet doesnt know how to fix this. They said that next season a team que will be put with its highest rank player.
Just sucks for alot of us who friends are not very good at PvP but we like to play together.
They said next scheduled update, so sooner than next season for this one.
My criticism of the game is sound. Your criticism of me is uncalled for. Again, I don’t care if you like it. Your feelings about the game doesn’t make it better for anyone else and no one asked for them.
I also enjoy the game. Even if it does have quirks right now.
standard player response.
Been running a Chrono home point defender (not full bunker) using Inspiration, Illusions, Chrono. When druids come to contest they melt over time to constant torment/confusion application (cleansing is pointless as reapplication is consistent).
Power Lockdown Chrono can interrupt/lockdown a druid. But this is high skill level play, and you’ll rarely see one in the meta atm for obvious reasons.
Berserker Bunker Buster can do it thanks to the unexpected unblockables, that and a well timed headbutt stun into GS burst. Mess it up though and you’ll be waiting for another round XD
It’s more fun to +1 them anyway since at that point they’re sitting ducks.
If you’re a warrior or thief, an absolute disaster.
Three days ago I started in Ruby. I decided I’d climb it with warrior. I’m up to tier 3 already XD
rofl
Oh there are exceptions. :P
I’m almost at ruby myself!However, its not the rule. Most people struggle with warrior or thief and sometimes stop playing it altogether. That needs to be addressed.
Heart of Thorns is ok, but pvp is an absolute failure.
The ease of running a bunker tempest IS ridiculous XD
It’s funny when you see people talking about afk’ing and playing windowed while watching youtubes, because it’s actually true.
If you’re a warrior or thief, an absolute disaster.
Three days ago I started in Ruby. I decided I’d climb it with warrior. I’m up to tier 3 already XD
rofl
I would’ve had kittens on the floor (yes I spelled kittens). My language would’ve broken Google translate
I had a few words through PM with a buddy XD
Two of my team didnt even score. I lead in score and was the only one to get downs/kills, saving home at the start, and forcing the bunker chrono off mid etc etc. Though props to our ele who kept mid decaped forever. Still, the rest of the team were rolled over, out-bunked, and 1/2’d for the duration of the match. They had no hope.
That’s working as intended. It’s called abusing match making.
lol
I’m playing berserker bunker buster in Ruby atm (did two tiers in two nights of play, couple hours each).
Montage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cYI4W9NLJc
Match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cYI4W9NLJc
These vids are a zerker ammy. Currently I’m running a valk setup, so 29k hp instead of 19k, and other defensive aspects.
More damage: (Marauder)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJAURnMdAlki9dA2dAEliliAzYA8ACAvD3k709YMcB+ZA-TpBBABHfIA0/BAIfZAAuAAEcEAwa/BA
More Sustain/Viable (Valk)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJAURnMdAlki9dA2dAEliFlADJEE3uAHZhAwv7N3+bTuA-TpBBAB8v/AZlBI4IAEwDAAgLAwxHCAA
There are a number of bunker buster berserker variations people are running. All usually consist of Str/Arms/Defence + Discipline + Berserker. I’ve moved away from Discipline.
Why Berserker? Great ranged burst, unblockable/unreflectable (sig of might).
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“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
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If your issue is that you’re broke, turn off your games and go get a job.
If you had an abundance of money, throwing a few bucks at what could be hundreds, if not thousands of hours of gaming really wouldn’t be a problem. Honestly, first world problems.
If you just want to gripe about pay walls and how Anet has ruffled your feathers, well I suppose that’s a form of entertainment in itself. Have fun playing that game.
As far as things go, I brought HoT for two reasons, and two reasons only.
1) as a Mesmer main, I wanted to try out Chrono. I don’t PvE, I used to WvW exclusively but don’t even do that anymore, so I just wanted the new Mesmer stuff in PvP. That said, Chrono alone wasn’t enough for me to get HoT.
2) Pre HoT I’d decided that if there were some buff to killshot warrior, that I’d get HoT. This was the big seller for me since, while war was simply a kitten y alt for me, I loved playing killshot so much I’d pay for killshot enhancements or alterations alone. I wasnt disappointed, and frankly this alone has made playing HoT worth it
So you know, I can’t say what it is you’re looking for. Maybe GW2 was meant to fulfill something in you and hasn’t, or doesn’t anymore. What I do see is you’ve got a story running about paywalls and not affording to buy an expansion, and therefor have become very unhappy or dissatisfied about the whole thing. Change the story, change your world
“Nor the desire” It had nothing I wanted. Warrior elite spec is meh to me. I never played PvE aside from leveling and making gold. I could buy the expansion, but I don’t want to. I oppose to buying power on a moral level and I would get no content I would actually play or enjoy.
You have your answer then. In fact, you had it all along!
Forfeits (not losing pips when teammates desert) are currently disabled while we fix the dishonor false positives. There will be more info on this later.
Anet swoops in in the nick of time before any serious damage is done.
…..
Sometimes when the opening mid fight isnt going well, I’ll break free, take, and hold far on my berserker. That usualy screws up the enemy teams rotations, my team gets a clue, and everybody starts shifting around to our favor :D
If you’re a warrior player
1) Dont play base specs. In fact, you need to alter your outlook on speccing a GW2 character now (it will always be 2 core lines + 1 elite spec from here on out).
2) There are no bunker berserker specs. Zerker, maurauder, valk, and some condi ammy’s can be used on berserker, and some only in low to mid tiers. So long as you’re not going to play in the ESL, you should be fine running berserker (if skilled enough, with right build, with a well balanced team XD )
3) META is JAM PACKED with bunker builds. Only thing Berserker can truly bring right now is Bunker Buster roll (slash roaming, slash +1, slash DPS)
Here’s some recent footage if you care
“Don’t play base specs” And yet, if I remember correctly, I would have to buy HoT in order to play the elite specs. I neither have the money nor the desire to buy HoT, especially if the current state of GW2 PvP is as awful as other people have told me. If base specs are just worse than elite specs and elite specs are behind a pay wall… the game has gone Pay 2 win and I have no desire to ever touch it again.
I appreciate the advice and the information. It saddens me greatly to hear that GW2 is in such a bad spot right now.
If your issue is that you’re broke, turn off your games and go get a job.
If you had an abundance of money, throwing a few bucks at what could be hundreds, if not thousands of hours of gaming really wouldn’t be a problem. Honestly, first world problems.
If you just want to gripe about pay walls and how Anet has ruffled your feathers, well I suppose that’s a form of entertainment in itself. Have fun playing that game.
As far as things go, I brought HoT for two reasons, and two reasons only.
1) as a Mesmer main, I wanted to try out Chrono. I don’t PvE, I used to WvW exclusively but don’t even do that anymore, so I just wanted the new Mesmer stuff in PvP. That said, Chrono alone wasn’t enough for me to get HoT.
2) Pre HoT I’d decided that if there were some buff to killshot warrior, that I’d get HoT. This was the big seller for me since, while war was simply a kitten y alt for me, I loved playing killshot so much I’d pay for killshot enhancements or alterations alone. I wasnt disappointed, and frankly this alone has made playing HoT worth it
So you know, I can’t say what it is you’re looking for. Maybe GW2 was meant to fulfill something in you and hasn’t, or doesn’t anymore. What I do see is you’ve got a story running about paywalls and not affording to buy an expansion, and therefor have become very unhappy or dissatisfied about the whole thing. Change the story, change your world
If you’re a warrior player
1) Dont play base specs. In fact, you need to alter your outlook on speccing a GW2 character now (it will always be 2 core lines + 1 elite spec from here on out).
2) There are no bunker berserker specs. Zerker, maurauder, valk, and some condi ammy’s can be used on berserker, and some only in low to mid tiers. So long as you’re not going to play in the ESL, you should be fine running berserker (if skilled enough, with right build, with a well balanced team XD )
3) META is JAM PACKED with bunker builds. Only thing Berserker can truly bring right now is Bunker Buster roll (slash roaming, slash +1, slash DPS)
Here’s some recent footage if you care
Sorry for the double post but I think there’s a thing I should clarify.
I’m not questioning about Warrior’s ability to get out of the fight, I know that just fine. My question is and has always been his staying power in teamfights.
You can get out of CC but you can’t stay in fight.
That is my main issue. I don’t want a guy that just runs away when the enemy gazes them.
And yeah i’ve played warrior mostly GS/Hamer and ShoutBow (champion title) but not so much the Berserker.
It’s funny reading what you’re saying because nobody ever complained about old shatter mes fulfilling the role of diving into a fight for a burst then hopping out to kite the sidelines.
Berserker can be played in very much the same way with a few differences. Berserker doesnt have to jump into the fight to do his burst. He can do that from 1500-1200 range. However he can also dive into the fight for bursts of time for major melee CC and aoe cleave pressure. It’s actually pretty easy to do.
The other thing I noticed was your dismissal of gunflame in comparison to Rev ranged Hammer. The Pierce on rifle is nice (trated of course), but gunflame has a small aoe burst on hit, which includes a daze. So anything that’s next to the target eats an equally hard hitting gunflame which also burns, and also dazes/interrupts. This is good because not only can you down a target, you can heavily pressure ressers at range, AND interrupt their res attempts.
I tend to do his while moving to engage in melee, then once in range swap to GS, headbutt, then hundred blades both the downed target and the stunned resser.
One thing that’s a problem is Chrono res power, and I forsee a nerf. That said, everybody suffers from this atm. At least War has the cc on hand to have a go at shutting them down. That said, I always eliminate the Chrono first from these team fights simply because I know anyone else will get ressed by them. Being a Mesmer main myself, I know how awful unrelenting ranged pressure can be, and these builds take no target dropping stealth, and have no choice but to hold the point XD
How did this turn into the sex joke thread?
I have no idea what you’re talking about, and frankly I’m disgusted by the suggestion! For shame.
Thing is, I’ve always found Cleansing Ire to be rather unreliable on anything but the LB. I remember the times I used to take the plague elite and spam blinds on rampage warriors to counter their effect. Any warrior running something else than a LB would go through too much trouble.
And the CC… It’s actually dishearting to see my teammates (druids, chronos, revs, scrappers) targetting war with all the possible CC’s they have and just nuking them. It’s not even funny since they don’t have that much stab nor any real defensive mechanics.
Sure stab pulsing is a good thing (eternal champion), but if we can CC people with 3-4 stacks of stab easily, one stack really isn’t going to cut it. Especially for an expected ‘melee’ profession.
And HS signet. Well it’s looks nice but it’s all so predictable if you don’t get it stripped you just haven’t met decent necro/revs.
Primal burst from GS is a 450range instant AoE, it almost always hit.
Sword primal burst is also rather difficult to miss.As for stun sensitivity, you have a 10s cd breakstun, headbutt is also a breakstun on 20s cd, and activating berserker mode breaks stun. Everytime you break a stun you get stability. That’s more than enough defense against cc.
I’ll be sure to test that out on the next warrior I find to target my double gravity wells, rev rift and druid stun-spam.
And which class exactly could stand in all of this kitten and not get cc’d ever ?
Rofl.
Thing is, I’ve always found Cleansing Ire to be rather unreliable on anything but the LB. I remember the times I used to take the plague elite and spam blinds on rampage warriors to counter their effect. Any warrior running something else than a LB would go through too much trouble.
Gunflame makes for a fairly easy mechanism to hit things thanks to its range and speed.
Greatsword Arc Diviner has a huge aoe range. If you miss with this then you’ve got other problems XD
If blinds are a problem its usualy because you’re facing something with spammable access (see thieves). If that’s the case, if you’re not running healing sig you’re doing it all wrong. Activate that to proc your resistance, ignore the blinds, and go to town. That’ll hold off any condi effects AND clear off anything long standing with cleansing ire.
Ez bloody pz.
Oh and take high HP so if you miss a few, ohwell.
Every diamond skin ‘rework’ advocate ever: “Oh it’s too binary so it’s bad design so let’s ‘rework’ it by nerfing how it fares against conditions. What about how it still doesn’t do anything against power builds, you say? Let’s just ignore that (since all I want is a nerf anyway).”
Actually Diamond Skin effects power builds too by keeping any initial application of vuln, cripple, chill, imob off the target. Vuln in particular means a direct damage loss for the power user (and vuln was originally there for power). All CC conditions exist to either slow the target down, or allow the power user to engage upon/burst the target. So as a completely free moving entity the Diamond Skin ele is making use of a HUGE advantage over the power user. Both his damage, and his ability to land said damage.
Diamond skin has always, and will continue to be a broken mechanic that needs changing.
@RossRiddle
You didn’t really address my point, and I don’t recall saying anything about druid, but no matter.
So i’ll just say it again. Berserker is unviable since it has a life span of 10 seconds (Berserker’s Stance) passed that moment you have nothing to prevent conditions from applying.
You don’t even have the surprise effect, since zerkerberker is basically the only build ran on warriors (gs/hammer or gs/riffle).
I’m just curious on how you manage conditions once zerk stance is on CD.
Latest bunker buster iteration has 29k HP, 7 1/4 resistance on a 16s cd, and cleansing ire. I don’t run zerk stance anymore. In fact I don’t run any stances (never have other than zerk stance initially). In recent matches I’ve been singled out by both good condition rev and engie. I outsmarted, outplayed, and killed them both. Being a Mesmer main I had to play for years without good/any condi cleanse. I’ve only bothered to add cleansing ire in the last two days, so it’s been interesting playing around with it.
People in ranked get so kittened when they lose it’s not funny. And I usually mean my team, cause i’m in the bottom half of pvp’ers, and yes, at times i can be a liability.
Well newsflash Sherlock: you gonna lose and …yeah and what?
There are no real winners at pvp, save three groups:1. the select few premades that make it into ESL and compete for actual real life prizes. If you’re in solo queque, that’s not you, buddy.
2. The ones who learn to calm their anger and emotions and as result perform better in pvp. Though the real win here is the self control, that you can take into rl with you.
3. The ones who plainly have fun, even if they don’t win.
So seriously stop crying all day about a lost pip or even 3. Don’t like it, improve. Don’t like your team? Make a premade. But seriously stop foaming at the mouth cause you lost. That’s pvp for you. Don’t like it, don’t play it.
Been refining my bunker busting Berserker. Played a freshly tweaked version tonight
4 matches, 4 wins, 8 pips in ruby on berserker XD
group mate/s are just a random OMFG member (mesmer mains), and a random pug guard that asked to join along the way ;D
Diamond Skin is a terrible trait. It is almost always either stupidly OP or borderline worthless depending on what you face. It doesn’t need to be turned into a bad trait, it needs to be turned into a trait that is actually fun to play against.
So like, Diamond Skin turns you into Edward Cullen?
Oh wait the enemy team is 2 legendary players duoing with an emerald and a sapphire and I’m solo q. Nevermind. Keep up the good work Anet.
I cant solo q since it takes about 20 mins for queue to pop.
I cant team up cuz the pugs are Sea teey.
I keep loosing multiple pips against premade
I lost 3 PIPS… that right 3 PIPS cuz i had someone who d/c on my team and we lost horribly….
I was 8 away from legendary now i am 17. Honestly I dont even know why i am continuing this.
Warbanner: Now summons a Chronomancer to res downed allies.
Reason: We felt Warbanner was underperforming in the current meta compared with its intended function.
I can kill most tempest relatively easily on berserker.
Assuming you are using the gunflame build in your signature, by most you must mean those that do not know how to use reflects.
Besides having so little defenses (zerk stance) you’d be a priority target so against organized team you’d never last long.
I can understand against non reflect / non protect stacking / blocking class you could do well in 1v1. But that still seems too situational to be usefull, and not worth the risk.
You’re still be inferior to the hammer rev.
Yeah…. so I’ve been playing Bunker Buster Berserker since bunkers decided they wanted to be a thing. I’ve followed all the tears of the past warrior players, and all the crying of the pvp forum. You’re ignorance of a zerkerberker bunker buster vs druid is both telling and funny.
I’ve evolved the build I’ve been running a bit. Currently where it’s at it has two sig of might procs on a 20s cd each. Depending on how/when they/you activate them, that’s 6-12 seconds of unblockable, unreflectable ranged attacks including gunflame. Of course Druid are also susceptible to CC, so you can always get a good melee burst in to boot between any unblockable ranged downtime.
Any decent bunker druid is going to lack the DPS to counter DPS you in time. Also, this can be done without a zerker ammy, running 28k hp setup instead.
I can kill any druid on berserker.
I can kill most tempest relatively easily on berserker.
Bunker Tempests however are ridiculous, and this has nothing to do with thieves or warriors.
All this said, I’d like all crap DH’s, Revs, Tempests, Scrappers, Chronos, Thieves, Wars, etc banned from ranked. Every day I have at least 1, if not 4 godawful players running meta builds who can’t look at a map and rotate appropriately. Literally zero awareness of what’s going on in their game or how to adjust when circumstance.
Yes and no.
Yes because the elementalist is overpowered with it, no because the elementalist is too frail without it.
+1 for rework. Whoever implemented that trait somehow found the finest line between destruction and invulnerability and seated elementalist right on the middle of it. I’m still trying to figure out if that’s a stroke of genius or just the worst luck in the world. (best luck in the world?)
This IS Anet we’re talking about XD
Personally if you are not in a the PvP lobby or in a match there is no reason such a thing should be visible to others. In PvE it is just annoying. And I doubt anyone much cares about PvP status outside of PvP, I certainly don’t I simply find it annoying. So this should just be not seen outside of the two specific area.
It’s funny because on the odd chance I’m in a PvE area (say, Lions Arch), I find the presence of PvE players annoying XD
Need disable feature.
I can’t believe this. it’s like they don’t even test there stuff.
DING DING DING
Such an obvious error that you would have seen it right away when you ever did a simple test, i.e. pop some illusions and shatter them. Obviously they didn’t test. These folks are the kind of people who write an essay and turn it in right away without even looking at it.
I blame the US education system XD
You know it!
/Brought to you by Anet XD
How many was it? Vote thing wont work in my browser -_-u
at least the guy killed you so you respawned. I would have left you inside :P
They didn’t kill him to the game was over (170 points later).
@wolf,
https://youtu.be/Mj0ZvV0x_SA?t=291
We all know Rev’s came into the game Next Level. Someone chop off one of their legs or something.
Just sayin -_-u
So because someone is skilled at Revenant, it must mean they need a nerf right?
Are you dumb or joking?
rofl
