Guild Wars 2

supertramp…just NO
phantasm is so useless in tourny and if they nerf it they will affect shatter too

Arenat this problem exists now since the beta
What kind of problem is it :
well if u use sword 3 ur illusion is most likely to not reach your target if your target is not on even ground

OMFG never have i ever read such a * thing i simply can’t believe it
I have been playing since the beta and now that mesmer is COMPLETELY USELESS in top tier tournament play all these new players want is to nerf mesmer even harder…
ANET if you nerf mesmer one more time i will quit this game
PLEASE DON’T listen to players that create threads like this one
Oh my god how can you even think about nerfing mesmer even more
YOU have no idea how strong that would affect shatter mesmer too!

SO guys, as ever green has mentioned before this might work vs top 500 lb rating people but NOT in the high tier tpvp against really good teams
why?:
because they know how to position themselves and before you reach them you got a signet of spite in your face and are slowed to death.. same goes for your whole team (epidemic)
also do you really think teams are playing condition only? of course not

HERE IS THE MAIN REASON WHY IT WONT WORK:

Since your whole teams speccs for the highest burst dmg possible their s/d thief can easily focus you out in the middle of the fight (and yes every team has one)

I really appreciate your time and effort for creating this topic but to be honest this will never succeed, people have tried this burst meta against condition meta and it simply doesnt work at all

If you switch out focus for pistol and nullfield for blink it is a very viabel build atm hope u enjoy it

its not i have tried this team setup when the meta changed and you will get destroyed by conditions anyways trust me …and my team is not bad

The only reason mesmer got nerfed so often is that (i will call them “noobs” for now"..that noobs cried about mesmer being op the whole time..
So please stop that from now on..
I actually cant believe that there are people out there saying that mesmer is still op

Very nice work! good job people should try it

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

I would advise you watch some GW2 PvP streams. The most important in streams is more often the explanations they can offer while playing and that doesnt really happen in most of the streams listed above. Granted those are great players but it seems to me you are more interested in the thought process of playing.
There are really informative and good players that keep explaining play-by-play, move-by-move why they do what as they go, just as if they are shoutcasting the game.
I’ll list a couple examples that are my favorites and helped me improve quite a bit:
Misa – Mesmer – Causality Stab – http://www.twitch.tv/causalitygaming
CMC – Elementalist – http://www.twitch.tv/cmcgw2/
Zoose – Elementalist – http://www.twitch.tv/thundercatshoooo/ (Think he has left GW2, not sure though)
Stunningstyles – Guardian – http://www.twitch.tv/stunningstyles
Caed – Thief – http://www.twitch.tv/narcarsis/

i just watched causality stab and i have to say he is really not the best mesmer..better watch helseth play

aleks that is completely nonsense if they nerf moa i will quit the game because mesmers elite are REALLY really balanced atm and btw moa is almost the only thing a mesmer casts for a longer time so just open ur eyes its not that hard..srsly stop crying about mesmer its up anyways

Just some thoughts i had about the meta after playing some solo q and team q

http://de.twitch.tv/sensotix/c/2749616

OKAY GUYS here is what i did…i stood outside the point to cluster their spirits to death once it felt save to engange i killed the spirit ranger but u know what? the other thief just kept running into the middle of the spirits getting oneshotted all the time..same goes with one of the engis
once i almost killed once he put his pet out and i had to kill it and as i was killing it the spirit ranger respawned his spirits and due to the high dmg output i had to disengage and start it new

teamfight…the time i managed to cluster their spirits etc down 3 people of my team standing in the middle of the point vs like 12 spirits were already dead..therefore i moved to farpoint killed the spirit ranger there and then another one came to rezz him…..

and the result of the game was: 500-360 for them i just forgot to screenshot it

warrior is not weak its one of the stronger classes in the current meta almost unbeatable in duels.

here another picture to prove it again…its just 2 out of 8 or 9 times this happened..

Its as simple as that get 4 spirit rangers and one guardian and you cant loose (at least in solo q) what does that say about ranger? i guess that it is too strong.

Lux.7169:

Sensotix.4106:

Vena.8436:

Lux.7169:

Sensotix.4106:

we were in the same ranking he was 12 and i was rank 11 so it should have worked

Rating, not PvP rank. Your ladder rating/rank.

If they both started fresh, which they seem to have, they’d have the same MMR.

i spoke about the leaderboard rating not our pvp rank sry for the misunderstanding….our pvp rank is currently 50 both

You were both rank 11 and 12on the leader board?

yes i was 11 with 11:0 and he was 12 with 11:1 wins/loss

milo.6942:

Sensotix.4106:

to save pvp in guild wars 2 it lacks balancing and rewards for playing like long-term motivation

everyone already knows man, even the devs

i know but to summarize it and to bring up some additional good ideas i wrote it

The Boz.2038:

OK, I read the rest now, there are some pretty good ideas in that post. But still, no to the “nerf everyone but guardian”. It’s literally the only class that has been a mandatory team member for every viable PvP match since launch, and it isn’t all because of one build. It is at least half a culprit in bringing about the current meta, thanks to his “I lol at power damage” stance.

yea but most people i spoke to are fine with guard as “THE BUNKER” so thats why i added guardian to the list of “non-nerfs”

to save pvp in guild wars 2 it lacks balancing and rewards for playing like long-term motivation

Bump it please ! its important

so awesome! perfect work!

please also add your suggestions

yea hopefully they will do that

guardians are okay as they are

This thread aims to summarize all the problems and solutions atm and represents not only mine but also the opinion of other top players in this game
Some suggestions:

Video Link too: http://de.twitch.tv/sensotix/c/2749616
- nerf all classes except for mesmer elementalist and guardian
- reduce the number of pets on the battlefield

so why do that?:
- if they buff mesmer and ele every class is kinda “op” so to stay “op” we have to stick to certain builds..if you nerf the “op” classes you have a better chance to create build diversity
- if there are less pets you have better overview and it depends on the skill of every player to kill an enemy instead of letting your pets do the work (i am mesmer and i think phantasm mesmer is ridiculous)

Some more suggestions:
- give players the opportunity to display their leaderboard ranking in pvp if they wish to do so (motivation for the players)

- solo q: let players decide which map they want to play.. if two maps reach the same amount of votes it will be decided by chance
- team q: let players decide which map they want to play…it will obviously be 5:5 everytime so it will decided by chance

- implement legendary weapons for pvp if you reach a certain win/loss ratio (just an example but i think its good because it shows the best how good a player/his team is….i dont really like the idea of getting them by playing a certain amount of matches etc)

- implement titles for players in the top 100 (you can keep the title even if you drop out of the top 100)

- improve the skill animations to give the possibility to react to certain skills better

- solo q: if someone leaves the game early or is afk only he looses leaderboard ranks and his group mates dont

- add professionally organized tournaments once a month so people can practise with their team for them (= therefore add special rewards for winning such a tournament)

- seperate pvp and pve skills like you did in guild wars 1

- implement a guy standing around in the heart of the mists where you can check the leaderboard because what player really want is to see it ingame and not on a website)

-implement a trading post guy in the heart of the mists

-make tutorials on how to play tournaments etc for beginners (simple tipps and tricks) so that 4 people dont cap a single point

- being able to buy pvp skins with glory instead of diamonds

-reduce spammable aoe (=give every class certain powerful aoes with a good animation but not spammable ones)

IF you have any ideas or suggestions feel free to post them so i can add good ones to the current post to make it easier for anet to see the summary

Some suggestions:

- nerf all classes except for mesmer elementalist and guardian
- reduce the number of pets on the battlefield

so why do that?:
- if they buff mesmer and ele every class is kinda “op” so to stay “op” we have to stick to certain builds..if you nerf the “op” classes you have a better chance to create build diversity
- if there are less pets you have better overview and it depends on the skill of every player to kill an enemy instead of letting your pets do the work (i am mesmer and i think phantasm mesmer is ridiculous)

Some more suggestions:
- give players the opportunity to display their leaderboard ranking in pvp if they wish to do so (motivation for the players)

- solo q: let players decide which map they want to play.. if two maps reach the same amount of votes it will be decided by chance
- team q: let players decide which map they want to play…it will obviously be 5:5 everytime so it will decided by chance

- implement legendary weapons for pvp if you reach a certain win/loss ratio (just an example but i think its good because it shows the best how good a player/his team is….i dont really like the idea of getting them by playing a certain amount of matches etc)

- implement titles for players in the top 100 (you can keep the title even if you drop out of the top 100)

- improve the skill animations to give the possibility to react to certain skills better

- solo q: if someone leaves the game early or is afk only he looses leaderboard ranks and his group mates dont

- add professionally organized tournaments once a month so people can practise with their team for them (= therefore add special rewards for winning such a tournament)

- seperate pvp and pve skills like you did in guild wars 1

- implement a guy standing around in the heart of the mists where you can check the leaderboard because what player really want is to see it ingame and not on a website)

-implement a trading post guy in the heart of the mists

-make tutorials on how to play tournaments etc for beginners (simple tipps and tricks) so that 4 people dont cap a single point

- being able to buy pvp skins with glory instead of diamonds

-reduce spammable aoe (=give every class certain powerful aoes with a good animation but not spammable ones)

IF you have any ideas or suggestions feel free to post them so i can add good ones to the current post to make it easier for anet to see the summary

but look if they are cc warrior or necros…here u have it..all the other classes are just easy to kill and trust me i know what i am talking about

the sigil actually increased the duration by 1 or 2 seconds depending on the skill because it is rounded up..i have tested it with a few classes/skills

Vena.8436:

Lux.7169:

Sensotix.4106:

we were in the same ranking he was 12 and i was rank 11 so it should have worked

Rating, not PvP rank. Your ladder rating/rank.

If they both started fresh, which they seem to have, they’d have the same MMR.

i spoke about the leaderboard rating not our pvp rank sry for the misunderstanding….our pvp rank is currently 50 both

yea indeed true…..sucks so hard

baldric i can understand you tho i have tried spirit ranger necro 33 thief and stunlock warrior just to see if they are hard to play and/or op….
AND INDEED THEY ARE (op) and easy to play

yea those are all soo ridiculous i mean if u get lucky you can kill a necro but then a warrior comes and u are perma cc’D or a spirit ranger with his condition oneshot and huge survivability in 1 vs 1

and thats how it looks like if you used all ur cooldowns and the necro still has almost full hp and ds and you get oneshotted by conditons (and i am really not a bad mesmer)

it was so ridiculous

So i started a solo q some minutes ago and anet has to do something about several things..
necros
s/D thieves
spirit rangers
stunlock warriors

in this solo q my team faced 3 necros
so why do you think necros are played so often atm (because they are op)

Check your ingame message

to be honest i also almost only get to play on temple…

we were in the same ranking he was 12 and i was rank 11 so it should have worked

Romek.4201:

it works

i know from 2 ppl yesterday they was all the day in ts and did it – they was in maby 8 matches in same game and i made screenshots from it and it was not the first time

the same happened to me..being in the same group with the same guy for over 5 matches but i didn’t know him…the reason for this was our rating

Ah i see
I just started playing again a few days ago i didn’t realize

To all of you complaining about q sync
Yesterday my brother and i who play pvp on a regular basis tried to q sync several times at around 1 o’clock in the morning
Since we sit next to each other it should have been quite easy for us
It didn’t work three or four times then it worked one time but we were in different teams
SO: guys please stop complaining it’s all just luck
Anet: Very good job on this behalf

I have been playing guild wars 2 since the beta and rank 11 was my best team q leaderboard place so far therefore i think i got enough experience to talk about it

if i were you i would choose a class that makes me happy everytime i logg in to play it no matter if its “good” in the current meta or not.. i for example play mesmer which is not that viable atm

if you cant decide you can watch some twitch streams

-teldo – engineer
-azshene – guardian
- ventari – Necromancer
-my stream actually cause i dont know if helseth still plays mesmer in his stream – mesmer
phantaram – elementalist
caed – thief
dont know about ranger and warrior

Once you decided what you want to play.. try go spvp and not tournaments for the beginning because there you learn how to react to certain circumstances and learn how to play your class

after like 300 games i would try your first team or solo q have fun and see you ingame

Please bring the balance patch this week if possible i see people leaving guildwars2 everyday and i dont want pvp to die also most of us can’t wait for the patch to see if it’s worth keep playing

yea we did actually quite well we lost 370:500 and i did my best

5 spirit ranger..

title says it all i guess
Bring ur patch NOW

the problem is the 10 condis + fearlock combination its not only about the fear dps

yep exactly thats what i thought too…they also put an arrow above the downed mesmer to show people who the right one is..thats ridiculous

Brighteluden.2974:

yeah, my necro still feels really strong atm. I always ran my necromancer as a conditonmancer and I still thought conditions were pretty strong back then but they weren’t the meta so no one complained but now with access to torment burning and fear seems we’re at a whole other level in damage but the problem is the necromancer lacks sustain, blocks, invulnerability, reliable stability so when you play a necromancer and usually always get focused first and tossed around with so much kitten CC it’s annoying not being able to do anything about it.

I wouldn’t mind see the damage “toned” down but not to the point where no one wants to play a condition based necromancer as I love the style of play very much spreading conditions around is oh so fun. I really wouldn’t care if they dropped the damage from fear all together honestly it’s only a little over 2k damage if they gave us something else worthwhile to compensate although I wouldn’t agree with removing fear from the game as it’s a necromancer’s only way of getting people off of him.

+1 to everything you said…
still i think they should remove fear and give the necro the possibility to have disengage so they dont need to fear people to create a gap between them

+1 to this but please also dont forget to buff mesmer and ele with some of the tipps u get from the community