Guild Wars 2

A free client would help, but they have so many people already playing the game it’s shame not to tap into those players. Most wvw’s adore the jumping puzzle for it’s small scale battles and often ask for a standalone version, yet these players have no desire to spvp in it’s current form.

bunker ele’s they are kind of like flies, buzz around you, hard to catch but aren’t really harmful. Long as they are having fun it’s all good.

I’m really hoping this isn’t a preview of what we can expect with the rest of the dungeon refreshes.

I just don’t do HOTW anymore.

Something neat a mesmer can do is share all the boons they have to the whole party, or steal 25 stacks of might from certain bosses and share that too.

I have run AC a lot also, thousand upon thousands of tokens, I still run 3 paths most days. Both the times I seen colossus fang recipe drop were to people who had 400 jewelling on that character. Not sure if that matters

Wow did not have a dungeon finder on release or for quite a long time. Map chat is great for filling a spot or even just using it to meet some new people to do dungeons with. Or join a guild that runs dungeons

Any mouse will work fine in your mac plug and play, you don’t need an apple specific mouse. So yeah get a mouse

Ive seen the collossus fang recipe drop twice, but thats it. I like that they are rare , makes one more reason to do these dungeons

havn’t seen any thieves (literally)

Actually I checked my combat logs, his/her name was “Unknown”

“Congrats on winning 2 weeks in a row JQ, you really proved you’re no1.”

I’ve been planning this speech all week, don’t make me look silly JQ

know someone that spent 1000 usd in the gem store just to buy the pieces you could buy (before legendaries showed up on the tp)

I don’t think anyone just wanting to try pvp with their friends wants to start out in a tournament, maybe I’m reading it out of context but it sounds like from a league of legends point of view, you can’t play normals with friends only ranked?

Chi Malady.2015:

Seren.6850:

YojimboJones.6243:

Loosing all of your pretty skins is a small price to pay for a battlefield that is evenly balanced (in terms of gear) and being able to spec and build however you like between games to test things out. In fact, I often use sPvP to test out possible pve/wvw builds so I don’t ahve to drop 50+ gold on armor/runes/weapons/sigils in pve just to realize that I don’t enjoy playing that way.

Can you name another game that gives it to you so easy?

Skins has nothing to do with balance, how is the textures affecting balance. Yes I use the mists like most people for a free ride to lions arch and to test builds. Just be nice if people you know went there for pvp too

Copy and pasting my response from another thread:

Skins serve as a measure of experience in PvP. Some people have grinded for thousands of hours to get a specific set. Some schmuck shouldn’t just be able to bring the same set into PvP because:

1. it would misrepresent his experience level
2. devalue the accomplishments of the PvP player who had to work 2-3 times as hard/long to obtain the same gear (you need to apply significantly more effort/time to acquire the same skins in PvP as in PvE).

That’s a fair argument, though matchmaking, glory and titles should be enough to show your experience. I have put 1066 hours into the game so far, yeah if you guys put 3000 hours into getting the gear I have then you certainly earned and should be able to wear it outside of the mists.

Good to see some people defending spvp in it’s current state, this forum section is mostly people hating on devs and complaining about balance and lack of features, so I’m glad there are people enjoying it.

YojimboJones.6243:

Loosing all of your pretty skins is a small price to pay for a battlefield that is evenly balanced (in terms of gear) and being able to spec and build however you like between games to test things out. In fact, I often use sPvP to test out possible pve/wvw builds so I don’t ahve to drop 50+ gold on armor/runes/weapons/sigils in pve just to realize that I don’t enjoy playing that way.

Can you name another game that gives it to you so easy?

Skins has nothing to do with balance, how is the textures affecting balance. Yes I use the mists like most people for a free ride to lions arch and to test builds. Just be nice if people you know went there for pvp too

I really enjoy wvw, in other mmo’s my favourite thing to do was queue up for some small scale pvp with my friends. I often think to myself you know what guild wars 2 is missing, it’s battlegrounds like wow and war had.

Then here is spvp, soon as you enter the mists all your armour is gone, hundreds of gold and hours spent on armour and weapons, farming fractals for the best gear. Legendaries gone.

That’s probably enough to put off most players right there. Who wants to spend all those hours getting a legendary (I don’t have one but still) only to have it disabled in pvp.

If you can get past having all your hard earned skins gone then you get to select your armour and you get a simplified toned down version of what you get in the rest of the game, want to run 60% clerics and 40% knights, sorry. Got some crazy build with stats from 6 different sets, sorry doesn’t work in pvp.

So you get past all your skins disabled, your build not being possible and you think oh well at least I’ll have some fun hot joining with my friends. Sorry can’t do that either. If I do manage to get into a game with my friends they just as likely will be on the enemy team.

All these lovely battleground maps sitting here being unused by a good portion of the games population because they seem to be designed to make you not want to play them.

I’m not without sympathy for what happens in the other direction either. If people want to just pvp the character should earn XP and your skins you earn in PVP should be able to be used in wvw and pve.

What happened to you is how it is meant to work, first run you get 20 tokens + plus 40 token bonus for the first time you clear that path per character per day.

Second run you get the same but without the daily bonus.
Third run is affected by DR.

seen a guardian 100% kite it, still the best strategy for pugs I think is to kill as much as you can then kite if you start getting overwhelmed

I just feel bad killing ascalonion peasants, they had a bad enough run in life, they were poor civilians, killed in a war they may not have even believed in, only to come back as a ghost and be hunted down and killed over over eternally.

So sad

Arah please, everyone just farms p3, the first 3 bosses can be solo’d everything else can be skipped and half the final boss fight requires you to stand on a circle AFK.

Advanced

I’ve had the most fun in wvw this week, queues have been a bit crazy though every man and his dog wants some JQ blood.

haviz.1340:

Seren.6850:

So my problem is we are constantly bouncing off the diminishing returns cap. Having to take 30-60 minute breaks to prevent DR. With supportive builds we clear COF path one in under 9 minutes.

So what point is there in going any faster than this. Do people go oh 9 minutes COF is terrible, you could do it 7 mins with pure glass builds, is there really a benefit to hitting the 5 dungeon cap in 35 minutes instead of 45 minutes.

Okay, so you compare glass vs bunkers in the most faceroll dungeon. Check your times in a bit harder ones.

Cof is the perfect example because of it’s trivial difficulty, you don’t benefit from support in it so it really magnifies a worse case scenario for support builds.

Alright, here is something to think about, I run a shout warrior with 1700 toughness. I used to always use an axe and shield but due to other regulars I run with having support skills also I can keep the great sword out. My guardian has 1200 healing and is specced around buffing everyone. We encourage teamwork and everyone bringing something to the team in dungeon.

So my problem is we are constantly bouncing off the diminishing returns cap. Having to take 30-60 minute breaks to prevent DR. With supportive builds we clear COF path one in under 9 minutes.

So what point is there in going any faster than this. Do people go oh 9 minutes COF is terrible, you could do it 7 mins with pure glass builds, is there really a benefit to hitting the 5 dungeon cap in 35 minutes instead of 45 minutes.

it’s simply culling, if you feel good about beating someone who can’t target you due to render issues that’s fine I guess, it’s just when people mistake rendering bugs for skill it irks me. Even with the limited stealths my mesmer has it’s so broken. I can decoy and reappear and walk around 20 enemies and they don’t even attack me, not because I’m skilled but because I’m simply not targetable and not visible to them.

Now add in a player who is actually good at gaming and give them the ability to rarely be targeted or visible and you get OP threads.

Lupi is the most fun boss in the game for me. No nerf please

Sounds like you would benefit from joining a guild, they certainly make getting groups with non 80’s easier

Obsidian Sanctum also, the one in metrica province I enjoyed too

You should play that other game, even though they made it all kiddy. rip vanilla 40 mans

I run about 1700 toughness and 27k hp, I used to run 29k but switched some HP for toughness just to make sure It was higher than the non tanks in the party. Also running full shouts and soldier runes.

It’s nice after running around with 15k hp on my guardian

I’d probably bring up Agony if I was trying to think of a solid reason to run 0 vitality

I run 3 shouts on my bar with soldier runes, they are amazing on warriors but there are certainly times for me at least when I have condition damage and my 3 shouts are on CD (2 warriors with soldier runes is super awesome btw)

Also nice to have a large HP if you run with a guardian, tome of courage heals everyone to full regardless of hp pool, was down to 500hp in Arah on bad pull, my heal and 3 shouts on CD, besides me only the guardian alive, I’m one hit off death. bam guardian clutch heals me to 27k and we clean up without a wipe.

warriors do 20-30k on hundred blades and 10k+ whirlwinds if they are dps builds in PVE, tactics banner increases party crit damage by 10% and warriors are bringing 20% party crit rate with fury with another 10% dmg group wide debuff with on my mark.

Warriors need to bring this sort of DPS to useful, because they certainly can’t take or heal anywhere near as good as a guardian can.

Norns are terrible for jumping puzzles, human male may end up looking like logan, forcing you to reroll. Thats about all I can think of

My warrior is female norn with full t3, have not noticed any clipping problems. I don’t think the hounds are worth choosing a human for, more of a novelty though more usefull than than the norn elites, your guardian elites are far more useful anyway.

You will be much happier if you choose the race you enjoy to play more (look of) than choosing one you don’t like as much for a racial elite (that is not that great anyway)

yLoon I think your looking at this class wrong, or this game. If your the type who like to speed run dungeons then your digging your own grave. Other classes can output more dps than a guardian so in your mindset a guardian is of no use at all.

If you want to blow through cof in 7 mins just bring 4 warriors and a mesmer.

Just enjoy the game

Warrior has more potential for DPS as a Guardian has more potential for Support.

My shout heal warrior is my fave, but on the harder dungeon paths we always like to have a support guardian around.

Your fun in TA also depends on your class also. If your having to run back then you just need to work on not dying.

Scavengers have always done a channelled spell, not sure to the OP question though

access to dungeons my main has, access to the fractal level my main has, access to dyes. They are my main gripes with alts.

hmm didnt realise it was in the crit tree, would involve me shifting 10 points from the power tree and losing 12% dmg at full adrenaline

Oglaf.1074:

What is interesting with this Trait is the following:

The F1 Burst ability of the Hammer will apply it’s AoE stun before it applies it’s damage; so this ability always gets the 50% crit bonus against whatever it hits, as long as the target doesn’t have Defiant/Stability. Run with at least 50% crit chance and you’ll have 100% crit chance with Earthshaker!

Nice I’m gonna go try this now, I must be pretty close to 50% crit with fury

Can’t believe a mesmer can complain about warriors. Happy new years we truly are Irelia

just out of curiosity to those have a healing ele and a healing guardian, what heals does the ele have thats better than the tome of courage, how are the cooldowns on all ele heals compared to guardians heals. How does the way ele heals use targeting compare to guardians.

Honestly the last thing guild wars 2 bosses need are more hit points, though I do kind of wish harder dungeons were available

It would depend on the group if your group is experienced at the dungeon and wont die there is no need to kill them. If it’s a pug or some new players I always kill those mobs.
People need to remember just because some things are easy to bypass for your class (guardian with stability and staff out to kill blooms makes it very easy) it may not be easy for other classes who don’t have stability or a skill that makes the blooms easy.

Some shortcuts for SE3 are.

After first boss kill the wave the comes, drop down ledge on left, if you have a thief refuge. Instead of killing the barricade go to the left side of it and jump over. After the bridge take a left on a ledge drop down to the ramp and follow it around to the second boss.

“NO NO NO” after killing boss 2 run past all the trash and drop down behind some boxes on a ledge, kill the APC without the mobs being able to hit back. Jump down get your chest and run past all the mobs and champions till the door opens, take a left into that room and just on ledge at end of it. all the mobs will de aggro except general boss, kill him. Then pull final boss without aggroing the adds and kill him.

I always do the dungeons the proper way without skipping anything the first few times, so I’m still not aware of how fast path 1 speed run can be done.

If the gates aren’t open when my group is formed we just do another dungeon. You can only do that pre-event so many times before your over it.

Some skills can bypass the gate though.

if your in melee range the adds will spawn, that includes the npc , ranger pets, illusions etc. Devs have not responded to multiple threads asking if this change was intended

the the strat we do now, is run past the boss up the stairs onto the ledge on the right and kill the adds as they come up there. and just range the boss from up there. adds will keep coming until the npc dies, after that you can just range him down.

which for the record is a lot more boring than when I could melee him on my warrior or guardian

LaughingLoser.9806:

What I’d really like is a mist version of a mace for my guardian to match the Wall of the Mists. Is this even available? Seems like almost every other weapon has a version, but I’ve tried a bunch of combinations, and looked in many crevices online and found nothing.

there isn’t a mists mace, or a rifle. hopefully they add them soon

I run the same build and runes As ziet with 2-3 zerker items thrown in and sigil of strength on the gs (fire on hammer). You can pretty much stand your ground with this build with no help from a guardian and keep your party up.

if you just want to increase your survivability put 30 points in tactics for the shout heals (banner healing is ok too but sometimes you need the burst heals from 3 shouts) you can neglect crit on a warrior as we get so much fury

I guess this is the same for all stealth, since you can kill shot a stealthed thief with a warrior

After playing my tanks, I just feel so fragile in dungeons with only one heal as a zerker shatter build (though it’s amazing in wvw). So I’m 20/20/5/20/5 or was it 20/20/0/20/10, staff/gs mantra heals

seen a guardian and shout warrior kite it 100% without dying, also like everyone else says, kill them all if you have the right group, worse case scenario kill until you get overwhelmed then start kiting