Guild Wars 2

Each server has their own history written with blood and sweat. From TC being mocked for being an RP server to SOR being built by a group of people honoring their fallen. Let’s not compare kittens here. That said, sorry about our bad apples. :/

Really depends on what type of insults, you’re referring to actually. Mind telling us what got you riled up? Havent really seen anyone in our server insulting the people whp transferred.

Cover Girl.2580:

Kerithlan.1659:

Orikx.9671:

To all those that are in such a hurry to get SoR out of T2. You do realize that just means you get to deal with BG instead right? It won’t be any better.

You realize that you’re larger than BG is now, right? I’m going to keep posting this whenever you guys bring up the BG thing because it’s the truth.

We want BG because BG is more comparable to our size. This makes for a more competitive and interesting match-up.

Wake up.

I don’t think TC realizes that BG picked up 3+ guilds from SBI and that or more from IOJ. they have also been learning some nasty tricks from SOS/JQ in T-1. While some TC players are crying to get SOR out, I sincerely don’t think they want the new and improved BG back. On the flip I kind of want them to get their wish so I can see the new excuses and angry rants from them about how they need SOR back.

I think a lot of tiers are screwed right now, and it’ll stay like that for awhile till each servers find their respective tiers. In their defense, while you guys are prioritizing your community by trying to get to know each other. It’s quite understandable for TC and SBI to prioritize their own. Especially when your problem isn’t really a problem imo.

Also, you really shouldn’t be talking about excuses right now…

I always thought it was Yak’s Bend though that we were suppose to be allied with… I didn’t even know you guys had the same issue with CD as well…

Henrik.7560:

ykyk.2740:

nibbles.2408:

As a member of FA I’m a little disappointed in our server right now. Reducing our opponents to 0 ppt because of some forum posts are the exact same bully tactics used by TC that earned them so much of our scorn.

In our defense, it was in response to a merciless killing of a peaceful Dolyak and her merry escorts. Please don’t hate us =(

Yes, that time TC had reason, they were heartbroken of their dolyaks being crushed by FA ballistas, but i do agree, reducing third place to 0 is bullying.

Well c’mon now, if you all think it’s perfectly fine to destroy a peaceful event because it’s “pvp” then why is it such a problem when TC responded by doing exactly just that?

Was it really too much “pvp” for you guys? Like everyone said, TC would have attacked anyway even without the dolyak as an excuse. I guess some people just decided that it was just another roleplaying event for TC after the dolyak was murdered.

I mean c’mon now, it was a fricken dolyak!

Cord.5371:

Kovu.7560:

So what’s this Dolyak Parade thing I keep hearing about?

~ Kovu

Here’s the highlights-
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/14u07l/death_of_a_dolyak_love_and_tragedy_in_wvw/

tl;dr- Roleplayers got upset when WvW happened in a WvW zone.

Why do I get the feeling that some people are still a bit bitter here? C’mon guys, there’s a good chance that you might face the toast again, let’s all have a fresh start ya?

That Dolyak fiasco was hilarious though. :p

I don’t really think it matters whether SOR moves up really. Like everyone said, there are four T1 servers, below us, there’s Mags, FA, DB(?) and Kain. Four servers that could be T2-T1 servers as well. So we’re pretty much screwed either way.

covenn.7165:

Its possible that when all this shakes out, there might be more than 4 T1 capable servers…..

Yea, I heard Maguuma is a monster now too.

joocheese.6314:

Not that we’re throwing the match, but I guess you could say we’re trying not to win by so many points that we are thus prematurely moved to Tier 1. Please don’t misunderstand, we want to win and we want to get to Tier 1, but only when the time is right. I personally don’t think we are ready for Tier 1 yet. I couldn’t be happier for the recent influx of Oceanic guilds, but before we move to Tier 1, I think we all need to learn and practice working together so that we can at least make a decent attempt against the likes of SoS and JQ.

I agree with Indo, TC and SBI members, we perfectly understand what you are going through right now; you are preaching to the choir. All servers go up and down; just keep fighting to the good fight and eventually your hard work will be rewarded.

Crap…really? I know it’s not your fault, but having four T1 servers is really screwing T2. >.< sigh Gotta hang in there. T_T

TCer here, there’s really nothing wrong with what happened with SOR. This is gonna be last hurrah for free transfers and you can’t fault these guilds for finding a permanent home. Its not evil nor should it be called tainted. Its just how it is, some guilds had done the same in TC and I bear them no grudge. Im just praying to the golem gods to make some more room for our server next week so that people who’s been waiting for months would be able to join us.

As for what’s happening within TC right now, im blaming that to the upper tier blues. Screw the politics, if we pull through this, then Im confident that our server will be the most stable of them all. It’s not gonna be strongest, it wont be the most organized nor will it have the most coverage, but it’ll be the most stable of em all. Ill take that over anything else.

Hang in there TC.

No he really didn’t. He asked a commander to talk to him in private. That was his first post. He didn’t post said evidence because he wanted it to be in PM. Again for the sake of privacy….He did it the right way. You guys just decided to blast him anyway…

Maelwaedd.5842:

Commander from SoR on TC borderland contact me immediately in game

No mention of any guild, no mention of any names. You guys coulda had a nice chat and straighten this out but decided to make a big deal out of this on your own…

You can all discuss who represents who in here, but you might want to try talking to the people who has to deal with BG’s massive oceanic crew every single day. My post has nothing to do with “winning” , points or even trying to move up a tier. It’s just me being concerned about the ones that’s ALWAYS had to work twice as hard to defend a single keep…

No one is begging from TC. I’m just glad the people in my server explored every possible tactics to make this match competitive. We extended our hands not once but twice, that would be enough imo.

Some even calls it a “war game”.

All it needs are two smart commanders who knows how to read enemy movements across the maps. The problem lies on the soldiers imo..

Then there shouldn’t be any excuses for losing. No whining about BG winning because of numbers and coverage. You’ve made your choices, your commanders should stand by it. At least I can say without any shame that my server and its commanders have done what they can to do something about the imbalance of this tier.

I don’t really speak for my server, but I don’t really care about whether we’re second or third place. No one will be using me, and Im pretty sure TC is playing by their own rules. Back in T3 we asked our two competing servers to team up against us, because we want to be ready for T2. Whatever happens though, Im confident that my server will change the dynamics of this tier playing by their own rules. :p

Durakone.5237:

So I was skirmishing with BG in eternal battlegrounds and several times I was actually assisted by some SoR. In return we fended off a bigger group of BG and parted ways. This really impressed me. I spoke with our commanders and the majority supported the SoR-TC alliance. Fellow Tarnished Coasters, we have tried our blitz tactics this last few weeks and it has completely failed to even keep us competitive by the end of the week. We outmatch our opponents when the worlds are at full queue but we just don’t have the numbers to carry us through the storm. TC commanders please look at the history and facts and support non-aggression with SoR. Its time to stop trying to squeeze water from a rock and be strategic.

I mean to beat this horse to death, because we’ve seen before what happens when TC ally or non-aggress with another world (See attached). TC commanders please order your people not to attack SoR on sight and focus our efforts on toppling BG. Defend our ground to the last asura half-standing but don’t push on SoR ground.

We’re playing a game of attrition so lets just narrow our focus on continuing to show BG the pressure of what 100 of their people vs 100 of other people really feels like. I don’t care if we come in last place. If we can mix things up and topple BG, it’ll will be worth it.

-Dwhite Dynamite

I think most of us are trying, especially on BG’s primetime. Alliances in this game are ftagile though and it can fall apart quite easily. No server has complete control on everyone so don’t get mad if the other server you’re working with turn against you.

But we’re suppose to hate SOR so that our NA crew would keep their NA crew busy for until BG’s off peak crew rolls in.

I kid, i kid.

TC will have a couple of bad apples here and there. We usually have one TCer who usually makes fun of us because “we keep on fighting” even though we’re losing. Surprise he hasnt showed up yet. Anyways, lets not feed em and try to keep this thread positive until this year ends.

For the toast!

It’s your call guys, but it wouldn’t hurt to focus on our off peak crew as well. I usually play around those times, and itd be nice if we can get enough numbers to at least hold Beastgate off our BLs.

From the way BG seem to devour SOR more during their primetime, it seems like SOR has a weaker off-peak crew than TC?

I think a lot of people would want to join Tarnished Coast. The real problem is the server being always full. This makes it hard for the big guilds to join. So it might help if we notify em everytime the server can be joined around these hours that we need.

I know im one of those people that supported a cross server coordination against a bigger server but shouldnt you try to poke IOJ for the first few days just to see what they’re capable of? I feel kinda bad cus they might not be down with that.

Niim.9260:

Shrouded.6450:

Raincrow.1840:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

It’s incredibly frustrating to lose week after week after week to TC simply because we cannot match their numbers.

FA and CD should have been working with each other all along to focus against TC, which would have givin us a chance to nulify their numbers.

Instead we spend more time attacking each other’s borders than we do in TC’s. That’s why we’re both doing so poorly.

^ I’m going to have agree with what he said. You can keep on telling everyone that TC is only winning because of numbers, but what exactly have you done about it? You may not remember this but there was a time when you almost kicked us off our own borderland. That was the time when both CD and FA were working together, and TC had to actually work their butt off to reclaim it. I don’t know why, but it somehow fell apart due to a number of people not wanting an alliance…and now, here we are again, complaining about numbers as if there’s nothing we can do about it…

What you are not mentioning is that the ‘alliance’ was only a few guilds on both sides, not even close to a majority. More importantly you are forgetting to mention the kitten storm of QQ that was on the forums about it, further you are forgetting that when TC said they wanted us to do this because it would give them a challenge, they forgot to mention that the challenge was to bring even more people to WvW which they did the next night along with another kitten storm of posts about retaliation for an alliance, etc.

While I think three way battles are important and that eventually servers will recognize this, rather then go 7 weeks getting stomped by zergs, but the game is still young and folks have to learn the hard way.

Let’s get into details then, if you truly believe that only a few major guilds agreed on an alliance and not the majority. It still doesn’t change the fact that TC got shaken about it.

Now imagine if the two whole servers did forge an alliance. What would have happen then? We’ll probably never know, because majority of you never tried….

Maniac.5163:

Tajz.9826:

Hey CD,FA folks, any tip on how to handle Tarnish Coast in general? What is their strong point NA/EU/Oceanic? And which guilds should we pay attention to?

Appreciate your help

However, with Blackgate guilds like HB + THAI active during TC’s weakest time slots.. I don’t think you have much to worry about.. videos related.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayMGHYax_m8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzIKdfx1PN4

Dear god, it’s like a blietzkrieg in human form…Umm we can do that too……right? Yes? Anyone?

I think it’s pretty easy to get PVers to play WvW in Tarnished Coast. Just tell them a dolyak was murdered.

Raincrow.1840:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

It’s incredibly frustrating to lose week after week after week to TC simply because we cannot match their numbers.

FA and CD should have been working with each other all along to focus against TC, which would have givin us a chance to nulify their numbers.

Instead we spend more time attacking each other’s borders than we do in TC’s. That’s why we’re both doing so poorly.

^ I’m going to have agree with what he said. You can keep on telling everyone that TC is only winning because of numbers, but what exactly have you done about it? You may not remember this but there was a time when you almost kicked us off our own borderland. That was the time when both CD and FA were working together, and TC had to actually work their butt off to reclaim it. I don’t know why, but it somehow fell apart due to a number of people not wanting an alliance…and now, here we are again, complaining about numbers as if there’s nothing we can do about it…

Yea, that’s one thing I noticed about our server….. A lot of people are very rich. lol

Edit: Player to Golem: “Do you want to portal up the ledge?”

XD

:( My engineer….My mad bomber…..Why?! What did we ever do?! T_T

rhonyn.6810:

Sharpclaw.7510:

Phantom, I’d give it a rest. It reflects just as poorly on us to throw fits and it might on individuals from other servers. At this point, we should sort of turn it in, stop fanning flames, and just hunker down for the next round. No one’s going anywhere, anyway.

I agree. ^The reaction by some TC has been as immature as the party crasher’s actions. In light of the news events of the day in the US, this all seems really, really petty at this stage.

Please stop using the event right now. I don’t know what server you’re on, just stop if you please…

Edit: I just realize I couldn’t even say what happened straight out. There was another school shooting in the US. 18 children dead…Damn

Don’t you hate turning on the news any more? As a parent, this stuff terrifies me.

I was actually in FABL, when my wife told me what happened. I just signed off the game…..

After last night’s silly back-and-forth and today’s terrible real-world events,

Yea, I just found out what happened. I’m gonna drop this now too.

Beachead.4127:

Shrouded.6450:

Beachead.4127:

So some guilds crashed an ingame funeral…. I think its funny honestly. My guildies and i have crashed plenty of weddings and funerals in previous mmos. If you take the RPing to that extreme then go LARP in the woods.

Oh I know, I think the majority in my server know what’s gonna happen, and the commanders over there seems to know what to do on how to get even….

No problem with that right?

Bring it on. Anything to make pvp crazy active and fun is ok in my book.

Then hopefully that settles it. Both sides gotta stop whining. Most of you should have expected that TC will get you back, just as most of us expected that the event will get ruined eventually.

Beachead.4127:

So some guilds crashed an ingame funeral…. I think its funny honestly. My guildies and i have crashed plenty of weddings and funerals in previous mmos. If you take the RPing to that extreme then go LARP in the woods.

Oh I know, I think the majority in my server know what’s gonna happen, and the commanders over there seems to know what to do on how to get even….

No problem with that right?

Well most people in TC are taking this out in-game actually, not in this forum. Though I’m not too sure if they’re still in your BL. :/

Static is from TC :p, Im not sure if he’s familiar with the server’s RP mentality though. I actually think its fricking awesome that it took a dead enemy dolyak for TC to wake up.

I think it’s happening in FABL, I heard it’s gonna last for a week. :p

Edit:GW2’s subreddit is having a blast with what happened. XD

Yea, CD with a vast oceanic crew and TC with a monster NA server, heh Yep this is hilarious…See, people do understand the principle behind WvW. Hopefully the people in FA really thought this through. :p

MrLT.6028:

Jayne.9251:

MrLT.6028:

sadly I missed the yak farm, but you guys are just as bad as the people who complain about fighting in the jumping puzzle. It is WvW, the point of which is to kill your enemies. There are plenty of pve events where you could have went to walk dolyaks without getting attacked.

You’re missing the point entirely. A player from CD wrote something that amused and inspired us all, and players from not just her home server, but other servers, loved what she wrote too. So it was agreed upon that this event would be held. This was about showing honour, being as good as your word, and representing your server. And if your word means nothing, then … well you can connect the dots.

Who agreed, I know my guild didn’t. And I am sure others didn’t. A handful agreed to somethign the vast majority did not. Oh well.

Like you said, it’s WvW . :p TC and CD can be just as bad.

This match is starting to get a lot more interesting. At least we know that an alliance can be viable in this game. It’s very fragile but possible, if players put more effort into it.

Edit: On a side note, it’s great to see the the Old TC spirit again.

I don’t know about anyone else in TC, but it was disheartening to see SOR/Blackgate wiping us off our own borderland back then. That’s why I also prioritize it first, its also the reason why we dont mind you guys double-teaming us. We want to be prepared just in case we have to face these two again…

The militias and the commanders is what TC is well known for. I do think the more organized guilds are there supporting in the background this time around. Hope that’ll make a difference when we face a T2 server.

Ya know, we did tell you guys to doubleteam us….That’ll probably split our forces. You don’t even need to talk to each other, you just need to keep track of each other’s movement and coordinate….

Or we can just come here, and complain…that works too I guess.

Hang in there Benders! Mahn do you guys have a recruitment thread here?

See that FA? YB is helping you out! Alliance!

Now kiss.

That’s an awesome video!

Ok then, now we know.

Edit: lol ok my post was infracted, but im pretty sure question still pertains to our WvW situation…. You guys are telling us we’re winning by numbers, we’re telling you both to form an alliance so that this matchup wont get stale…..You guys dont want to from what I gather?

Seriously, this coming from a TCer. Both FA and YB needs to form an allianice. There I said it, now I know you guys don’t like each other,but you gotta do something different. TC seem to have fallen into a rythym where they know what each server is capable of, hence why this match up’s outcome will be the same as the last one. Now put your differrences aside, because I wanna see the TC that held off blackgate and SOR even if lwe’re losing. You can keep looking down us, but you’ve never really pushed the commanders into a situation wheree our backs are against the wall.

moirweyn.9872:

That is not a zerg, that is a raiding/harassment party.

If it were a real zerg, you would have been dead long before they rendered on your screen.

Im pretty sure they havent fought a t1-t2 server. Mahn, if tc is not ready for the upper tiers, just imagine them fighting these monsters in t1 and t2…

kanikani.2430:

Reiven.2543:

As others have stated in this thread FA is extremely offensive. In our previous matchups this overwhelming brute force tactic worked because we had such huge advantages over our other opponents but this is one of those few matchups where our opponents have extrememly similar numbers and at the moment we are failing to understand that the old overwhelming zombie zerg just does’nt work anymore. If FA is to have any chance we need to look beyond mindless zerging and just capping everything on the field.

TLDR:
We need to start thinking about the consequences and reasons for attacking areas instead of mindless zerg rushing everything if we are to improve as a server.

The heart of the problem there though is that the ‘system’ as it is designed is highly against defending. Meaning there is no reward most times for many hours whatsoever. No gold, no karma, no xp, not even any fun. What happens is that you spend a night chasing after some camps if your lucky which is irritating at best.

This does not even take into account population issues and having the numbers to defend places.

Defense is very important tactically, but for the individual it does nothing, especially when ‘points’ have no real value. I have never heard anyone say hey I want to start up a game tonight and sit in an empty tower for 4 hours watching the guards walk in circles. Lets all ask our friends if they want to buy GW 2 to do this, see how they react to you. Its a game, it should be if nothing else fun, when it becomes work (even more so unrewarded work) people stop playing.

This is an Anet problem not a server one. How would I solve this if I was Anet, add dynamic events to defense like ogres attacking the tower, etc. But I have already posted a thread about adding NPC’s to underpopulated servers.

Tell that to a bunch of RPers who likes playing guards duty. Im not too sure about the Benders tho, these guys are really disciplined when it comes to defense and I must admit, I secretly groan everytime our commaders orders us to invade em.

Points doesnt matter, but if you’re the commander that’s being attacked by both servers, and knows you’re going to lose it anyway. Then, you make sure your next move is smart and is for the good of the server. Did you want us to give you stonemist in a silver platter? Would that be “classy” thing to do? Or were you just mad tc chose yb? Of course the ideal thing would be to defend it against both sides, but im not a commander and its not my call, so ill simply trust their judgment that we cant fight both yak and fa at the same time…