Guild Wars 2

Well we need healers now apparently, unavoidable damage, makes sense as to why it’s now “hard” content. You can make anything hard by adding damage no one can avoid, it’s so contrived.

Makes sense why we have one beta weekend, we get to run around and help everyone else play the game.

For more healing.

It’s a shame I guess for some, personally I avoid healers like the plague and now it’s being smashed together with my favourite archetype bowman.

Wait, are we going to see anything?

Just as I say that…

Druid reveal starting, also with technical difficulties.

Yeah, had to turn it off for that cringe worthy “game show”.

Now we have a game show, ugh this is so awkward.

They’ve kinda already showed it’s an hour slot.

We have to wait 1 hour.

Confirmed again on stream it is the Druid.

Isn’t Revenant now the aspect-like class?

I’m guessing it’s going in order of their schedule, so we shouldn’t have to wait too long to see it, I hope.

Friday, September 25

Starting Out in Guild Wars 2
First Look at the Ranger Elite Profession Specialization
Musical Performance
“A Taste of Tyria” with Jennifer Hale
Adventures in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Premiere of the Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns Launch Trailer
PvP Discussion
WvW Discussion
Masteries
Skill Balance Preview
And more!

So hopefully we only have to wait maybe 15-20mins?

I guess CDI’s are pointless then…

Using the Ranger to show the rest of the content so they can say we spent a whole hour showing Ranger, instead of an in-dept analysis of the class.

Dadnir.5038:

When I’ve read this first I’ve thought :
“Does he mean that he is starting to do the Druid spec just now? That’s a bit late man…”

Seriously, at this point they should have all elite spec well rounded and almost ready to go. I really hope it’s not something they came up with during the week.

This week, doubtful. Something happened to us for us to miss the original time slot, so something wasn’t working, be it broken or they just didn’t like it, or it was too hard even. Regardless here we are, hoping it’s at least working to the point where we actually see something.

Kehlian.4380:

2min, and then they go on another topic

As likely as that is, do we know the time slot? I wouldn’t want to miss those 2mins lol

I’ve looked at the schedule, only see a few 15min time slows here and there. Do we know what time the reveal for Ranger is likely to happen?

Dardamaniac.1295:

Sicarius.4639:

Confirmed today in Engi forum, they’re still working on it.

Confirmed they got their eyes on… This could mean a lot of things…

It could if that was what had been said, but it wasn’t.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Since the Scrapper reveal I’ve been up to my eyeballs in Druid development.

Fairly comprehensive I’d say.

Break the spirits, charge £35 to have them fixed in expansion. Could see it.

Confirmed today in Engi forum, they’re still working on it.

Stick a Sylvari NPC in the story who can talk to non-sylvari players to give them an idea of what’s going on.

It still isnt’ ready, let’s be real, there not revealing it at TwitchCon by choice.

Coarr.3286:

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Hey all,

Since the Scrapper reveal I’ve been up to my eyeballs in Druid development.

hey,

nice to see someone working on the druid :P

Would like to think it was finished seeing as they’re revealing it tomorrow…

Wouldn’t a third party reveal go to those who’ve had early access to the content?

Ranger was pulled from it’s original slot after whatever they were doing wasn’t worked and scrapped. It’s likely it wasn’t complete so no one had access to it. It’s likely it’s barely finished before Twitch, so that’s when we will see it “complete”, just like everyone else.

We can’t even have capes, there will be no mounts.

Honestly believe it to be a distraction from whatever got scrapped.

After whatever it was didn’t work and had to be scraped, I expect a big wow with some flashy looking pets and some snare skills from the video.

The Ranger NPC in HotM has been disabled for quite some time too.

Ryou.2398:

Chokolata.1870:

The issue with Druid is that, if it is amazing it will completely overshadow the core profession. But then again, most of the elites already do overshadow their core professions.

Really? So many people try to defend that saying they will not over shadow previous specs at all.

I found this interesting seeing as people were championing F2P for PvP growth, what happens if we find the elites are much better than core professions? You’ve suddenly got a P2W situation on your hands.

Not happy? Say so, Happy? Keep playing the game.

I don’t see why this can’t be a place to voice opinions and concerns, the alternative is enjoying the product and playing it. It seems that logically, those who are least satisfied would be the ones here not playing the game no?

At least people still care enough to come here and voice an opinion, the alternative to that is taking your dissatisfaction elsewhere i.e. your business / money elsewhere.

chemiclord.3978:

Yeah, I know the first quote that they didn’t want to remove the pet. I’m aware of that one.

The second quote of yours, however, I strongly suspect only exists in your mind, and is a willfully dishonest twisting of what was REALLY stated at best, and an outright fabrication at worst.

Hard to find every instance of it, seeing as we’re talking years. Although there was this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/11mz4k/i_am_a_programmer_for_guild_wars_2_amaa/c6nw4pe

I remember it being said in a video though, that would be harder to dig up because you know, keywords.

Actually I wasn’t twisting anything. They literally came out and said they would not remove them because they’re a staple of the class. They also thought that reworking pets was too much and I quote “wanted to focus on the low hanging fruit”.

But thanks for telling me otherwise…

chemiclord.3978:

Yeah, THAT’S it… they haven’t ONCE looked into Ranger issues until recently. I mean, it can’t possibly be that the solution isn’t as simple as the all-knowing players think, and as such there’d be little to say about the matter other than, “Still no fix! Soz!”

Nope, it’s GOTTA be ArenaNet has been maliciously ignoring the class for three years.

Do you people LISTEN to yourselves? And think it honestly makes sense when it comes out of your mouths?

Actually when asked about removing Pet’s they said they have no plans to do that, “they’re a staple of the class” oh, can you fix them? “We have no plans to do that, it would take too much work, we want to focus on low hanging fruit”.

Thanks I guess.

Zephyria.6103:

Donari.5237:

Rubi said TwitchCon would be where we see all about Druid but said nothing (so far) on what will happen to PoI after TwitchCon beyond “We have a lot of surprises for you at TwitchCon and I’m not going to give them away.” Which seemed to relate to whatever is happening to PoI.

Thank you! For helping stem the drama and providing info! ^^^^ No matter how they arranged the classes in terms of info reveal…someone had to be last guys. I did enjoy PoI though and I’m hoping we still have something similar in the future.

The arranged it according to their Professions page, then took out Ranger and made them last, most likely because of technical issues regarding the class and mechanics. Not looking into a class in 3 years is starting to catch them out.

Sytherek.7689:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

There will be no POI next week because the team will all be at TwitchCon… where we will talk about the final profession spec, as well as more cool stuff on our TwitchCon stream.

Now let’s all calm down and tune into Points of Interest today at noon.

My hope is that ANet is saving the “best” for last, and wants to really make publicity at TwitchCon with a momentous and thrilling reveal of the Ranger Druid. Better pet AI, a really cool elite spec, maybe some really sexy staves…

Please don’t disappoint me.

I’m on the other side of the fence, no formal presentation with as basic and generalised overview as possible not to highlight any of the issues that held the development back from 4th reveal to last.

Time to tighten up what you can do for free era begins…

The class was a mash together of left over ideas with the term Ranger slapped on it. Nature magic, longbow man and beast master come together to create this Ranger for GW2.

InsidiousWaffle.7086:

There is also a character in league of legends called braum who is a norse strongman with a shield and mace and is really strong

Just a shield.

Demented Yak.6105:

Poor rangers. I’m glad you guys are last. It means that all my favourite professions aren’t.

They had an order they followed, your class (unless Engi) was never going to be last. The one that’s giving them the biggest headache is, to be honest I’m looking forward to seeing if all this extra time is going to even be enough for them!

Could you imagine if it STILL isn’t working properly?!

MirrorOfNature.4279:

Emmalouise.1763:

Thanks for your opinions guys.

I am not saying that HoT should be delayed, Hell no! it feels like forever already lol.

But there have been huge gaps in the releasing of the elite spec’s so all of them could have been released before BW2 allowing for the ranger and engi to be tested in BW2, revised and retested in BW3 and then worked on further if needed. All the other classes have benefited from 2 BW.

Instead we will get ranger and engi dumped on us last minute, feedback will be given and changes made and released into HoT without any idea if the changes made are fit for purpose. (maybe they could squeeze in 1 more BW?)

I am a little sad of this

I wouldn’t worry much about that, mate. The beta weekends are made, so players can get a taste of the upcoming content and share their opinions on their favourite classes and the content all together. This in no way means that any of the new spec will come out untested. Most companies have a whole teams dedicated to that one specific area. You dont really believe Anet manage to do all the complicated coding, balancing and what not based on feedback from 1 or 2 beta weekends, do you? There will be bugs, yes. There hasnt been a launch in the game history of new expansions without any bug, but they will get fixed eventually.

I guess only time will tell.

We’re worried because THREE YEARS LATER we are where we are now. So yes, we’re worried about what they can throw together in the space of a week.

Jelzouki.4128:

Hi rangers.

Long time necro here just wanted to pour my sympathy out to you guys and let you know I think it is kittening bullkitten that ranger is last to be released while other specialisations get to go through 3 beta weekends of constructive feedback whereas ranger will have one. I don’t even play ranger and I think this is stupid. Great job anet, letting down your playerbase once again.

/riot

Should post this in Necro forums for dev visibility.

Slapinator.4196:

I think the real problem is people PrePurchasing the expansions before Arenanet revealed what it offered to players. If that’s the case no one holds responsibility if someone ended up not liking the content or the way things are going to be but since there was a recent statement concerning rewards in raids in the official site I don’t think there is any point in discussing this anymore.

It needs to stop, they’re not running out of copies. This does more harm than good but as soon as their favourite company starts doing it, they’re on board. Same people yelling at EA and the same people that led Deus Ex to the most notorious pre-order bonuses ever.

It’s getting ridiculous now, people need to understand what’s happening around them.

They’ve got targets to hit and they’ll be kitten ed if there holding back their launch for the sake of keeping Rangers happy.

1BWE or none, look at the state of the class, it’s not as if this isn’t in keeping with the trend Anet have had for Rangers. Just look at the profession page, perfect order with just one exception, the Ranger. They quickly realised it was a cluster and a lot more work than they originally thought. Don’t worry though, because if it’s broken and overpowered on launch you’ll see that 24hr hotfix incoming, if it doesn’t work? Well, add it to the list from vanilla launch.

So we’ve just seen the third BWE changes for other classes, how many do we get to test for Ranger then…?

Anet already showing they need 3 BWEs to balance classes that will see more than one. This is going to be an absolute cluster…

Don’t know why this is a surprise, we know the order which they were to be released. Except one…

Called it, they went by profession page order as suggested. One exception being the class that was clearly not ready, can you imagine if we only had one weekend to test it too…

…oh.

Donari.5237:

Sicarius.4639:

If you shop around you will find varying costs, some as low as £10 off of the price Anet have on their website.

If you do that please make sure the seller is on the official retailer list. Unofficial ones could be selling you keys gained by fraud, and you won’t be happy to have your account and all its progress erased in a few months.

One of their official key sellers were doing it at about £25 (listed by Anet) so that should do the trick. Although I would suggest you don’t pre-order.

Kravick.4906:

No one likes underwater combat in this game because its horribly, horribly unbalanced. Every single balance pass we’ve had in this game has completely ignored underwater skills. As a result, you have some classes that can basically blow through it without blinking, and other classes who are woefully underpowered.

Its been neglected so much that when ANet redid the trait system, they completely removed all the traits that affected underwater weapons and skills.

Sounds like ground combat, at least in the water Ranger was on top.