Guild Wars 2

So we get our new lions arch(WOOYA!!!!). We all walk in. We take a look around. And…ho boy how do I say this and make it forum friendly?

->We decide to go on a fun quest to play hide and seek with baby karka<-

We walk around some more

->We meet a karka princess and give her goodies<-(Which I personally have no idea if dragonite ore is supposed to be fed to karka. That just seems unhealthy to me)

Sooo yeah. Any chance we could get some net guns instead? If only so my little Princess doesn’t grow up to have survivors guilt. Because you know a full sized karka queen powered by dragonite ore with psychological trauma just seems like southsun all over again.

I know the data mined stuff has a lot of people in a tizzy but don’t freak out. Sword mage is popular and is bound to get added -eventually-. If yall do get warhorn right now I’m sure it’ll turn out great. Just look at chronomancers shield.
Personally I play a guardian and got longbow. I’m not the biggest fan BUT we still got some other cool stuff with it that I like and I’m sure elementalist will too

PFFFFFahahahahaahah. Never let it be said the devs dont have a sense of humor

Ya know whats bad? Ive been playing a guardian since I started and I forgot empowering might.

Yeah I get the sigils. But I was wondering how it scales without the the critical damage. warriors for example are able to use Precision along with Condition Damage because of their bleed on crit. I was wondering if that was even viable for us

Hey guys. I was looking over the new traits (go figure right?) and it struck me. Do we have any reason for crits besides critical damage? I see we got vigor, and the hammer thing, and then the torch thing. But none of those are really on every critical hit.

I was wondering what all the merits of a critical build are besides damage and If I should just start looking at something that’s condi/power based instead

Hey at least you guys GET a damage increase from your grandmaster trait. I’m using a 1h sword over here and all of radiance lines GM traits are condi based (except signets but yeaaaah no i don’t use signets)

Because you can get stability from shouts and still have your 300hp/s for your party?

Edit: Scratch that I’m pretty sure you can get it well past 400 if you gear it right

Grab some sinister gear and trait for burning. That is highly supported with the new update. Whatever you do don’t grab a 1h sword

BP is no longer in contest with pure of voice. Sure we no longer get the healing symbols* but who the kitten ever bothered to stay in those things anyways? We get enough condi removal that we don’t need the active

*edited

So I take it none of you have ever run battle presence in full clerics gear?

AMD 300 series jsut came out. You should take a look at that. Use the Benchmark website to compare GPUs

Recently made a post somewhere with a link to an older topic. When I checked on my post later to see its view count (because I’m vain like that) I clicked the link and it gave me a 404 error. I was logged out at the time. Logged in, and the link worked again

Do links to closed forums only work for the person who wrote the topic?

Or do links to the older forums just not work for people who aren’t signed in?

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE

They should just give us burn on crit >.>

Your right. It is abit optimistic but…

True story: I bought the game thinking Wvw was gona be awsome. I HATE WvW. Yet I’ve still managed to log 3k hours sooooo Im happy

I’m pre buying the expansion whether I know whats in it or not. Here’s the logic.

Fact: It has to do with a dragon.

Fact: There are multiple dragons in the game.

Assumption: This means an expansion for each dragon.

Or: I get two dragons in 1 expansion (yay)

Fact: Zhaitan live in Orr, Orr had 3 maps. Zhaitan also hogged about half our personal story line.

Fact: They wouldn’t dare make a dragons storyline shorter than Scarlets….Seriously Anet if your reading this don’t do that to us.

Fact: Ive logged about 3000 hours on my guardian since buying this game. I bought the game for 60 dollars

Fact: That’s $.02 an hour people. That’s a dollar for 50 hours of gameplay. R.I.P. console games.

Fact: New players are getting the game for free with the expansion because 100 bucks for an MMO is a kick in the balls. Also they have not gotten to play it for the last 3 years like the rest of us. We paid for the last 3 years. Remember those nights you didn’t have a girl to go out with and you instead logged on and partied with your guildys? Yeah, that’s what you paid for.

Fact: This isn’t going to be the only expansion. Anet is a company. Companies like to make money. Companies make money by players buying their product. Getting us to buy future expansions means this ones gotta be good so ITS GONNA BE GOOD. It just makes $ sense. Greed is an amazingly dependable thing

Additional info: I’m a smurfing cashier right now and I don’t want to hear any of yall complaining about how expensive things are. Go mow a couple lawns. Make some cash. Buy the expansion. Go mow some more so your buddy can afford it too and join you in the game. That’s what I’m doing and its worth it.

So have meditations always granted fury to allies? Or did they just slip that in there at some point? I need to know because I’ve been playing meditation guardian forever and a day and I thought it was a solo buff.

Yes but it puts a pretty good bandaid over it. Enjoy the change, play with it, think it over. Post again later if you still think it needs more changing. Remember-

The Meta Is Changing At An Alarming Rate O.O!

And now we wait and see if people use it :P. I hope so

P.S. I tend to run my cleric spec during the holiday seasons so oh yeah Ill be using it

A condition user is getting 10x more power out of amplified wrath than me. They are more powerful than me, they will kill me. Balance issues. I am nerfed until there is a better option.

Now if Amplified Wrath gave a static ammount of condi power to burn. that would be different, but its PERCENTILE. which means i get 3 more damage a tick, they get 30. Mucho differenco. (It then however would not scale properly with might)

So next order of business. I personaly have an issue with the new radiance line and with the meditations trait but Im guessing theres some more important stuff to look at?

HAHAHAHA check the release notes they just buffed shield. Im awsome

So who would like to help me out with shield?

Thank you Amins. My original point was that it is no longer acting as a crit line. If your not running condi the only GM trait for you is signets. If your not running signets none of the GMs are good. If your running sword you can’t go to the zeal line without gimping yourself. So if your a sword user that doesn’t use signets your kinda boned. Radiance is a crit line, It needs to have a grandmaster that reflects that. Its not a GIANT issue, but for me personally running 1h sword with meditations, looking at the numbers, I know that I WILL be nerfed compared to my fellow guardians

Yeah Medi guard over here. Got my own bag of complains. Same thing pretty much. Bad trait placement

So yeah lets start with shield

Also can we make it a rule to keep the negative energy elsewhere? I feel that’s what mapchat is for. Not forums

Shelter isnt getting a catagory because it works off the block mechanic which is in several lines for the guardian. Its powerful enough the way it is. Heck most medi guards use it over LoW (not myself tho. And stop trying to turn my LoW into a consecration)

Reguardless of if a Dev comes walking along and asks us to balance the game (which really what are the chances?) We need to do this anyways and have a viable solution to point to every time these issues come up again. And for the love of all that is Guardian can we start with shield? Q.Q

Ya know I cant disagree with you there. The line is stupid strong with its critical buffs. But that being said if it has enough to support zerkers without a grandmaster than truly how much stronger are the people running that with the signets trait going to be? Balance issues~

I use swordxtorch/GS myself. Your not the only one getting the hilt with this upcoming patch.

I understand there’s more than one way to cook a pig, but the second tier of traits in the valor line is just unnecessary. You have a choice between

-Shield CD and 180 toughness
-150 toughness for nearby allies
-give allies Aegis when you block

I feel like those are all basically being used for the exact same thing. I mean it’s basically a question of whether or not you have Aegis traits. If so grab Aegis. If not grab the toughness. At this point some people probably thing I’m forgetting something, but no shield is never an option.

Disclaimer: I don’t expect anybody to take me seriously but this shield issue is long overdue for a fix so I wanted to atleast throw something out there. Feel free to post your own thoughts, anything is better than the current issue.

Shield issues- No clear role. No synergy. Everything can be done better by other weapons. Nobody uses it

Thoughts- The shield is for tanking. That means not just protecting your allies but interrupting the enemies. It is also not a magical weapon like the focus and it is not a giant boon stick like the staff. It is also the CLASSIC counter part to the sword. The fact that these two weapons are utterly unsynergetic in game makes me Q.Q.

Suggested New moves

1. Shield of Light- Grant Aegis to yourself and allies. Blind enemies.
   
   This would have the same purpose as the current shield 4. Defending stuff. Except it’ll synergize with more traits and not be dependent upon boon duration for its effect AND it will still be used in tanking without being BEHIND your allies. It would also give it a better role in ACTIVE defense as opposed to a set boon.

1. Dazing Dome- Toss up that projectile absorbing dome, except have it daze people instead of knocking them back

Sure they can still run but at least this way they wont instantly be out of stabbing distance
#5-2 DETONATION- Knock them back.
Because we still want people with scepter to use this thing (even though I personally think it looks funny)

P.S. sorry about the funny indentations. I know everything about videogames and nothing about technology

I think we should take this opprotunity to all throw out what we think about the shield, and what we think needs to be done about it. Come up with something people who play guardian agree on, and then all get behind that. Because NOBODY uses shield. I love shield and I don’t even use shield. I actually prefer to use the TORCH on a DPS build than the shield.

Personally the shield needs to be usable with the mace and sword. Right now people mostly use it with scepter when they do use it, just for the knockback. Some people use it with mace but that is about to swiftly get replaced by hammer. Nobody uses it with sword because why would you knock somebody back and then have to chase them?

Actually AW is going to have less milage because base condition damage is getting nerfed. Also Radiance IS the critical and condition line. It’s supposed to be those two things correlating with each other. The issue with AW being the only viable option in grandmaster tier is that 1. I have a choice of 1 kitten option and 2. Its heavily favorable to condi builds. Seriously a condi build gets a 15% damage buff and I’m getting….Lets see…a sneeze in the right direction? It is probably less useful than the adept traits in the tier. Also pairing with zeal is only good if 1. Your taking zeal and 2. Your taking traits in zeal that actually synergize with the burning.

I’m not saying its not a good trait. I’m saying it can be a horribly bum trait and that there needs to be better options for people who aren’t speccing burn somewhere else, and still need to take that line for its critical abilities.

@ Black Box- I know there are ALOT of problems, but trying to bust mine from getting fixed isnt going to help yours

Also to your comment about the adept tier. Instead of me saying something constructive and helpful, let me use your own arguement against you. Just take Virtue trait line bro. What? What its just a whole nother trait line. Just do something else if what you wana spec is broken

Nah Focus skills are fine. All about the personal protection. Shield skills are supposed to be about going toe to toe with ALOT of people not just one. That being said it kills me that there are NO blocks on shield and NO correlation between shield and Aegis. Honestly shield users should be masters of Aegis. The number 5 should get a fix and the number 4 just needs to be reworked

Exactly. And DPS builds dont receive any benefits from Condi modifiers. The difference is Condi builds arent being forced to pick between Grandmasters that are all power based. Its a crappy pick. It needs to be changed.

Yeah I feel like we just went from “well balanced with a few issues” to “Dear god please help us we don’t want to pvp anymore”

More importantly, you would have to switch to your sword to get the damage boost for people in that symbol. Taking away the ability to apply other symbols for 10s

I don’t think it was ment to be a nerf so much as it was for balance sake. It still rewards classes with more block skills without giving you a whole TON of burn that more dodgy/attacky sorts don’t get. If its really underpowered they can always up the burn time later (or toss on another stack)

Ya know I used to play a clerics guard and I loved sanctuary. Hopefully itll be getting changed sometime to block more stuff

Condi builds apply regular damage passively, You don’t see them getting forced into taking Grandmaster traits for that.

And again, I really don’t care about my build not being perfect. This is just something that’s blatantly in my face mocking me on how useless it is, and that I know is going to lead to balance issues.

So I’ve spent the last couple hours on the forums complaining about Guardians upcoming trait changes. As have many of us. My biggest concern is that I use a sword, which uses Radiance as its primary damage line and that that damage line is not going to be Zerker friendly due to its grandmaster traits. One of the choices is the Signets trait, which not everybody uses, and the other two are condition traits. The Condi damage for retaliation trait is SPECIFICALLY for condition users. There’s nothing we can do about that. That leaves Amplified Wrath as the trait that will be most viable for DPS types like myself, and if your a guy who focuses on attacks instead of blocks, and on Power instead of Condition, the trait looks very lackluster. I think I have a simple solution to this

In the last livestream the developers said that base condi damage is getting lowered. That’s something ALL guardians benefit from right now, even the berserker ones. Heck ESPECIALLY the berserker ones. We can use that trait to give that back to us

A simple change to Amplified Wrath will make it good for everybody. Tweek the percentile damage down a bit and toss in some base condition power to burning. That way it actually has a benefit for power builds and doesn’t feel like something that’s being shoved down our throats

No. That doesnt change the fact that gear with condi in it is still going to be better than mine because im being forced to take a condi trait in my crit line -WHEN I HAVE NO CONDI-

Your right I should take that OTHER crit trait line. Oh wait there isnt one. NOT FRIGGIN ROCKET SCIENCE BRO

Edit: I just want to be able to grab some traits that support my build without looking at them and going “Wow there are going to be other guardians that are BLATENTLY stronger than me”

The problem is that 15% of increase in condi damage should not be a grandmaster trait for a zerker

Wow Black…that a friggin good point

Edit: ALSO that whole speech about purity of purpose they had on the livestream. Why are we getting A PERSONAL DEFENSE INCREASE on a weapon that’s made for GROUP SUPPORT.

Thats my point tho. its the condition damage AND the critical chance line. There is NOTHING to support critical chance in the grandmaster slot

Also no. Amplified wrath is going to be HORRIBLE for power builds. Remember them saying how condis are gonna be weaker unless your specced for them? We just got nerfed. And not in an appropriate way
Amplified wrath is fabulous if your going zeal or virtue or some other line that your getting synergy with your burn. But if your just trying to do some dps stuff (Which crit is an ESSENTIAL part of) that choice of grandmasters is a serious slap in the face

You block alot IF you use focus IF you use shelter. Also they are putting an ICD on the burn on block. And again any build using symbols along with sword is a nerfed build because a build with two symbol weapons would be better. Also the dodging on honors is nice but its not something you want to take a whole traitline for. Youll be innitially more tanky but in the long run youll have less sustained DPS than the other guy.

Guard is getting nerfed 1v1. Sword is boned

Also. Might on block in the same line with meditations trait, shelter blocks litany of wrath doesnt, what the heck

Also. Torch trait in the same line as burn on block. Torch don’t block. Neither does sword.