Guild Wars 2

Aeolus read the new patch notes for the changes coming on the 23rd. Focus trait gives it protection. Shield trait gives it toughness….just some toughness. With the new symbol changes even healers are going to use the shield anymore, its gona be all hammer/staff

See looking at the traits it just slapped me across the face why radiance line is so jacked up. Adept traits, u can grab fury. Master traits, you can benefit from critical hits. Grandmaster minor, more precision on burning foes. Doing good so far. Grandmaster slot….aaaaaand theres not a single crit related function. Before we had right handed strength as a Grandmaster. That was there for people who wanted to do a crit build(as long as they were using scepter and sword). Now we have nothing in the grandmaster slot for dps types unless they are going Signet and we have 2 general purpose traits that are both condition related. This would be Ok if I could do 4 points into the radiance line but seeing as we have to take the whole thing that’s kind of a bad idea. Nobody wants to take a line with a grandmaster trait that does next to nothing for your build

Yeah honor is GREAT if your support or playing tanky, but it dont do JACK for my stabbing abilities

You took zeal line, congradulations there will already be a build better than yours since sword does not use symbols.

Also amplified wrath is gona be a pretty crummy grandmaster skill for zerkers dont you think?

Edit: Also empower might is a support skill. While guardians support is still strong (as it always has been) our ability to duel just got kneecapped. Meditations, our biggest mano E mano skillset, got buffed by giving it party fury. If it really needed a buff they should have done it in another way. That just made it stronger in groups

Zeal line just got put on steroids, but unless your using signets trying to take radience as a zerker is basicly shooting yourself in teh foot

Alright SOMETHING has gotta change because it is now crippling people to use zerker stats with 1h sword. It doesn’t have symbols so zeal lines a bad idea. Valor line if your going meditations sure but oh look that just got changed into offensive support. Honor line…haha no. Virtues? Sure if you feel like doing condition damage, healing, or retaliation? Not really zerker stuff. The stability would be nice but again, support. So that kind of leaves the radiance line. adepts and master traits are pretty wonderful but

-> Radiance Grandmaster traits are a bad combination

You either pick a burn buff, or using condi for retaliation. So 2/3 of those are condition and then the third is SIGNETS. So If i want to use 1h sword along with meditations I’m kind of shooting myself in the foot. If somebody else sees some other traits I could take please tell me but right now all I’m getting from Anet is that I need to switch to signets or go jump in a volcano.

Edit: Oh wait I know! I can just use another 1h weapon with it to get benefits from its trait in the radiance line. mace is defensive so Ill just use a scepter and go into zeal line and OH WAIT SWORD DOESN’T HAVE A SYMBOL

Hi yall, figured id hop off the guardian thread and come down to give my condolences. I know how bad a lack of mobility can be and I…………..oh who am I kidding you deserved it. Grab some centaur runes and ride it out.

maybe a lower cast time? I really would buff LoW in any other way. I use it personal and it works just fine

It does correlate to guardian. You see if a theif steals ANY of our defensive abilities, the steal would be pretty useless. We’d still outlast him/her. Now if a theif steals something that actualy hinders the class they are stealing it from, like dazing us guardians because we can pretty much brush off everything else. Yeah that sounds about right. It would probably be a stun but we have crap mobility anyways and we still need to be able to turn so you cant back stab us

The fact that this guy put that smily face in the title is pretty much all the evidence I need that his idea is a bad one. reads OP YUP horrible

Skilled play is fine. But as it is right now as a kitten y noob walking into wvw you litterally have no idea what you can do. This is mostly because what you can do requires 4 other people and to have siege in your inventory. There is of course the little pve stuff you can do but…Ive never really seen somebody treat that as any sort of important.

To much zerg. Not enough you could do as a single player or as a tiny unit. Sitting on a cannon defending an area did not get you rewards or recognition. TO MUCH FREAKING RUNNING and not enough action

Modify the rally mechanic and have healing power increase revival speed. See how fast people want a cleric in their party

Stealth needs more counter play, and it is being given more counter play. But unfortunately instead of the basic stealth system being given soft counters (like CCing people outa stealth) they are giving classes individual hard counters….like guardians getting The Hammer of Dawn. Seriously we did not need that thing. give counter play to stealth, rebalance theif, all will be happy

Regeneration stacking is a HORRIBLE idea. There are burst heals. Warrior shouts, peoples number 6 skill, things of that nature. Regeneration can be stacked in duration, which means unless you’re boon stripped, you constantly have that hp dripping in. That’s important for classes with low HP pools because they cap out really quick. The regeneration boon is a great set it and forget it tool for healers so that they don’t have to micromanage people. They just pump as much regeneration on them as they can and then only swing back around if the person needs a hard burst. If regeneration stacked in intensity people would just look at you, realize you had ABUNCH of regeneration on you, and then instead of wasting their burst skills on you they would just hang back and let it burn out really quick.

Repeat after me. Defiance bar is for giant npcs. Stability stacks are for players

They did announce mounted enemies…and we are meeting giant frogs….sooo maybe in the future?

We need two things for support and bunking to be viable

1. AIs that go after the SQUISHIER players. that means attacking the DPS glass cannons

2. the ability to block things. We can already body block projectiles, if blocks like guardian mace 3 actually STOPPED an attack from cleaving other people we would be golden.

Traps are amazing, They are going to be like the more useful better looking brother to consecrations

It works just fine if you have the meditation traits.

Guardian is PROBABLY best support? Bro Im a guardian with all my traits and moves focusing only on my own survivability and power and I STILL give more buffs than most people. Also even if your super duper duelist ele whos better with 1v1, your still gona be alot more vulnerable to ganks. Pick guardian. GUARDIAN MASTACLASS!

Despite how hard guards are to fight, a Pistol Dagger thief can still burst us in 2-3 seconds down to death. Guardians dont get to do that. Also if our 2 stun breaks are to much to handle for their multiple stuns, all they have to do is wait till we target somebody else and run in with judges intervention

Yeah I did that but I’ve never been asked for it. When does it ever ask for that number?
(i just read that it asks for it if i try to log in from a different Ip. and THAAAT would be why they asked for my address. I knew that part smelled phishy)

Oh thats all? That I can do. Thank you sir

Already gave my game ID and my Email. a Buddy just told me Im probably gonna get hacked. What do I do

Your right. It does say its not Anet. Welp that settles that

Hey guys I need a bit of help here (having a Dev chime in would be super helpful). Logged in this morning to a piece of mail that came from a player by the name of En Saikya (Who signed the end of the letter as a GM). It claimed my account was showing odd currency transfers and login times. Which it does. It continued to say that I needed to verify my account on the link below or possibly get it restricted
(YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN’T CLICK THIS THING)
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So I figure ok, I made a lot of gold on the TP, I haven’t been logging in a lot lately, I probably look like a gold seller. I figure Ill just go fix this. So I put in the URL. start filling out the form…… And realize that its probably all the information that could be needed to get into my account.

->I also realized that the mail that had been sent to me didn’t have the Anet logo ANYWHERES on it<-

Soooo did somebody just forget to turn the little red light on over at the office, or do I need to start hiding my stuff because scammers are after me?

Extra info: The link looked legit like part of the GW2 site. It had the banner and everything, but when I clicked on the login button in the top right it gave me 404 error code inside a bunch of chinese.

I’m freaking out here, somebody please tell what I need to do

Revealed just needs to be removed. There is no actual reason for it other than to balance the class.

The “hunter” is the most important part. Because if your out hunting something, it means your not sitting around guarding something else

@Black Box. That’s the point, it’s less powerful yet it gets a graphic effect that many guardians right now would kill for. Especially the healer types (speaking from personal experience here)

@Blix. Go try doing a speed with a pug in clerics gear. Its ok. I’ll Wait.

Well the wings aren’t about the dragon hunter so much as they are about the Virtue of Resolve being upgraded. But that kinda makes it weird since there’s other builds that make that virtue WAY more powerful…and they don’t get nearly the same faciness when used. I’m actualy cool with DH having the wings, its everybody else not that aggrivates me.

They did not just make a trait line that is the only trait line for guardian that NERFS support(VoR), and then give it WHITE WINGS. Because that would totally, TOTALLY be a bummer to every staff/mace user out there.

Seriously, zerk meta is aggravating enough. They steal all the loot, all the attention, all the fancy updates. Fine. But come on Anet are you really gonna let zerker guard beat up the clerics and jack our style?

As it is right now if you go full on cleric support(Valor/Virtues/Honor) you get no fancy animation, just a giant heal when you hit your F2. But if you go with the CC/DPS line Dragonhunter, TADA you get -Angelic White Wings-…..That cuts deep.

That being said, I see this being a problem with all the specializations. Fancy new graphics while the old ones are still (While amazing) not half as flashy in comparison. We need our swag updated.

Dragon hunter has offense, deal with it. 90% of the guardian population would have flipped a table if we were given something defense specialized. It would have been pointless because you can already be a super healer or an unmovable tank with the traits that we have. It’s just that nobody does it because its not needed. Whats amazing is the fact that as much as people complain about it “being like ranger” or “being all offense” er no its really not. Yeah it does damage, but its TRAPS, with a bow that has CC.

You mean all those things that we can already do? Nah Vigor is great. It gives those zerkers more dodges so they can most and keep zerkin.

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Necro brings support just like every other class. If you don’t like the fact that it isn’t might stacks than go roll an ele and run CoF 1 all day

List the available support the class brings that is applicable on your generic boss encounter in a dungeon.

See, you, need to roll an ele

P.S. Holy crap long arm has a point. Whats the point of shouts if you cant use trooper runes?

The devs said they gave it the name kuz of lore, not as much because of play style, wait until the expansion before yall go saying its just thrown togeather. Anet usually provides great game depth (even if the characters lines in the main plot are a tad simplistic). That being said I’m not going to complain about what Anets giving us when everything we already having is working just fine. (Go talk to a theif/necro/memser/ranger about stuff not workin right)

Necro brings support just like every other class. If you don’t like the fact that it isn’t might stacks than go roll an ele and run CoF 1 all day

Yeah, they really should just have the spirit weapons stay close enough to the guardian to be inside his symbols. That way we could heal/buff them, ya know as if we were some kinda support class -.-

Guardians dont need more speed, other classes need less. Warrior and engi both gain perma swift from adept traits…..yeeeeaaaah thats to much. people never use swiftness buffing runes because theres no point. you either have perma swift or you dont

The wards are wards for two reasons. 1 They are not effected by condi cleanse 2. they are not effected by stun breaks 3 they are not effected by condi duration 4. they are CC, not condis.

That’s all if your doing zeal line. If your like me and you like to run radiant instead, swords the better option. Without all those fancy symbol traits sword has the faster attack speed (better voj), and mobility, and a blind to match maces block, and some projectile defence. That being said, while i’m all for mace users finally getting some love, I am kinda worried about sword dps…

Hi theifs, I’m a guardian. I heard about the tough times you have ahead and I thought I’d drop in to tell you the upside

1. Guardians have a vigor symbol now. You’ll enjoy this
2. You still probably have more stealth/stunbreak than we do stuns and reveals. I think you’ll survive
3. If your invisibly you’ll still set off dragons maw and I’ll know exactly where to GS#2
Ok, so that last one wasn’t an upside. But don’t worry you guys haven’t even seen your specialization yet

P.S. Most guardians will not be taking virtue line with the Dragonhunter line. A boatload of retaliation comes from the virtue line. So you hopefully won’t have to deal with that anymore

Great idea. Don’t call it “Feel my Wrath” though. The boons aimed at allies and that shout is at the enemy. Id also complain about Signet of Courage having nothing to do with virtue of courage but meh it doesn’t matter

P.S. why not have a tome come back as a cantrip. That way we can hang out with the tornado eles and complain about how nobody takes us seriously.

For VoR that makes sense since you’ll be able to aim it. For VoJ and VoC I really dont know what to tell ya

With all this talk about the new specializations traits and skills, I figured I’d like to talk a bit about the lore

Now lets say hypothetically you knew a guy who called himself bearman. He used bear hands to attack foes. Made traps that looked like bears. And swore he would eradicate all bears on the earth.

That’s basiclly Dragonhunters from what I’m seeing. Soooo do you guys think all the dragon hunter NPCs are gonna be a few symbols short of a zeal line(if ya know what I’m sayin)?

Rabbit, there ARE plenty of traits that give damage to X weapon. and they are all OPTIONAL. They don’t punish you for using a trait line together with over half the weapons available to your class.

P.S. Big game hunter. Still usable with longbow. Pure of Sight, still not useable with everything else

P.P.S. Remember at the reveal of the new trait system how they said they didn’t want players to feel bad for picking traits? Yeaaaaaaah this is kinda that thing

Q.Q sword torch is my offhand, Ive always had to avoid the zeal line because of it. I was hoping I could use Dragonhunter as a second offence line. Also you’d have the same issue with that setup, half of it wouldn’t be effected by zeal minors, the other half wouldn’t be effected by pure of sight. RIP

Pure of Sight
+10% damage to anything outside 600 range
^ Its a dragonhunter. It has a longbow. I understand this
-> However. This specifically tells players “sorry melee weapons are not welcome here”. If there are traits in the line that give more of an advantage to melee than to ranged, and this is in place to balance it out, that’s OK. BUT if this is put in place to encourage the Dragonhunter play style than there has got to be a better way. Maybe just a damage bonus for anybody with a negative condition on them? Anything but long range being the requirement. Because

1: It works kinda oddly with the virtue of Justice tether. You have to keep them far, but not to far

2: I was hunting dragon spawn loooong before this specialization. Lemme tell ya, never once did I feel the need for them to be anywhere but close enough to GS#2

Any kind of effect (stability/stunbreak) from traits should retain its original range, id be shocked if they nerfed it

Yeah ill admit as a guardian i would definitly feel giant beams of light raining from the sky would be more my trump card than a dragon face popping out of the ground and munching on somebody