Guild Wars 2

“Bringer of most massive ponage” maybe XD

Well said. I totally agree with everything you have outlined. I have been working on getting my “light up the darkness” achievement and just yesterday I got the build down and started committing the fight to muscle memory. I can now get 8 lights on her most times and I have also got her down to the 10% to 5% hp mark a few times before being dropped out the arena, lolz. today I just adjusted my runes and a trinket and sigil to get more damage and I will try again over the next few days. (once I get more tickets lol XD). They need to fix the camera though like you mentioned.

VIVA LA HARDCORE!!

Maiden England.3491:

that all sounds great on paper dropper, but have you actually tried using all that in a zerg? all the fields are outdone by eles, all the condi damage is outdone by necro, and you dont need any extra blast finishers when you have 3-5 guardians with hammers. im talking about organized zerg vs zerg. all the small stuff REALLY doesnt make a lick of difference in a zerg. its about the big support the classes have to offer, which i dont see how engi has any of.

So your comparing five guardians with blasts too one engi with the same amount of blasts. This single engi also does water, fire, light and smoke fields compared to a staff ele who has only a fire, water and lightning field. Then you whent and compared the engi to a necro who runs condi’s COMPLETALY different from an engi. necros burst all the conditions on too the five targets and then have to wait through the long cooldowns of there marks/ wells. basically condi spike followed by a period of rest. engis on the other hand apply sustained condi to there targets (9 targets if you run nades. I love ignoring the aoe cap omnomnom.) that is easily reapplied due to short to no cooldowns on the ability’s. to put it simply. necro= lots of condi’s all at once, 5 targets, long condi duration, long well/mark cooldown. engi= sustained condi application and reapplication with high intensity and low cooldown’s (burning, 15 stacks of bleed and vuln is yummy). aaaaand that’s just the tip of the iceberg, but ive made a big enough wall already so mabie another time.

EFWinters.5421:

Considering you can flip all of EB and all of a BL in about an hour during off-times, no.

This idea is terrible.

but the OP wants to ban caps during off time remember hahahahahahahaha makes me lol every time I read it.

Zenguy.6421:

Simple solution: give Engineers’ Utility Goggle utility the ability to see stealthed characters.

It will only work for maybe 10s out of every 40 (or 32 if traited), but it will a) cut down the excessiveness of Thieves’ perma-stealth, and b) finally make Eng’s a useful class for large scale WvW.

Of course, to balance this it will help if Thieves have a role in large scale WvW. They’re thieves after all. How about giving them a way to sneak into closed towers, etc.? (Why should Mesmers be the class that can bypass gates?)

I play engineer as my main and have no problems in wvw. Nades can tag 9 people at a time .(three tags a grenade with three grenades a skill. traited) that’s a lot of conditions your spreading around. Now before you go compare it to a necro the two classes work completely different. Necros only hit five people as mentioned above and they also have large cooldowns on these abilitys, but the amount of condition burst and condition stacking they put out is frightening. were as an engineer hits more targets, can easily reapply removed conditions in a matter of seconds and has better maneuverability and get out of jail free options. Both classes bring a different way to run conditions to the table and you should not just presume anything about a class just because you have no luck playing it.

Back on topic I like your idea about the utility goggles. its a stroke of genius but on the flip side I don’t think the thief needs a nerf at all. They have there own play style and if you cant deal with it this just comes down to a lack of personal skill or understanding of the complexities of the thief as a class I am afraid.

P.S. the only thing you have sad that bares any thinking about is the idea that taking stuff in a certain order incurs certain (non-stat) benefits and/ or making other locations more vulnerable. Like owning bay increasing swim speed on that bay’s border for example.

Direwind.8409:

There are no zones, no portals into the realm of others servers;

The EB would be placed at the centre of the map, the other battle zones would be placed at the other sides of the map, One large main keep would defend a choke point leading into each servers battle zone, the zones would be exactly the same as they are now, but all on one map.

There would be no instant killer guards at the citadel, but they would be boss hard, a server can lay siege to a citadel only if they own the EB main keep and each main keep of the server they intend to siege, you also cannot lay siege to a citadel out of peak hours.

laying siege to and winning a citadel debuffs that server with a 20% stat"disgraced" debuff that last 1 hour

the victors can spray their guild marks about the citadel to let the losers know who was there.

they also get a phat loot chest, ton of karma and 20% stat boost for 1 hour. only one citadel can be taken per hour, they take 12 to reset.

1. So……you cant take there eb keep unless you own there other keeps but you cant get to the other keeps because there eb keep blocks the choke point? this is what you said. I would laugh but it would be a waste of energy.
2. So assuming that after we fly hacked into there area and took there keeps then managed to take there eb keep (while defending our own keep and the 3 we took at the same time) they would get there would be a 40% stat differential (even the server that sat back and watched is 20% higher than the loser) which basically means its time to steam roll your enemy’s into there spawns, go about on our thieves and insta-gib hole groups of de-buffed players. So far the only thing you said that makes any sense is the rewards for all the hard work you and your fellow players put in taking every thing, exept oh wait you had to fly hack over there mane keep to take there other keeps so you could then go back and take there mane keep all while assuming that you could hold all there keeps at the same time. clapclapclapcalp!! bravo! bravo I say!

Lastly, you can only take stuff during peek time?! who’s peek time? the Americans? the Chinese? British? Australian? French? German? Any other EU or Asian country’s peek time………..WAKIE WAKIE NUMPTY HEAD.

Vol.5241:

OT but…I did not know you could put your map in the top right corner.

ye it was blocking the picture of my awsome mini XD

So this is a place were you can post a picture of your epic self with your Liadri mini in order to display your epicness for your fellow epic brothers and sisters and others to see.

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh580/singer42/gw074.jpg

lordkrall.7241:

Singer.8740:

I know the one you mean but that’s not your mentor. the mob just mentions that you will soon be joining your mentor in death then attacks you. insidentally that event is also on a completely different scope from my idea.

It is actually quite likely that it is indeed your mentor, seeing as those with the Order of Whispers meet an undead Charr and the Vigil meets an undead Norn and it is in the area around where he died.

its 100% not. ive done that event 5 times. apart from the fact that the mob talks about your mentor in the third person which without a doubt confirms its not your mentor, the event happens no were near were your mentor died. they died on claw island you fight this event in the south of the bloodtide coast. incidentally you can check the wiki.
heres a link to a video of the OoW version.
http://youtu.be/NjJYW1cv52g
this will clear up any and all speculation.

lordkrall.7241:

Singer.8740:

what would have been awesome and made me really hate zhaitan is if they brought back your mentor as an undead champion as you pushed into orr. Such as when you try to ambush the eye. how would you feel facing your mentor, Tybalt for example (everone loves that guy) who has been completely corrupted and warped into a sadistic evil nemesis of sorts and you have to fight him through out your push into orr such as at the sunken temple instead of a no name champion and at various other clutch points in the story. Have them kill off other characters right in front of you and generally try to get in your way. You give evil a face (especially a face you know and like) and you will hate it to the depths of your soul even if it is some gargantuan force of nature. That’s how they should have done it. It would have been far more personal and immersive at that point you would really want to kill zhaitan. As a finisher imagine fighting your old mentor on that giant airship surrounded by undead while zhaitan flyes over head. far more epic.

There actually IS an event in Bloodtide Coast where (presumably) your mentor comes back and attacks you.

I know the one you mean but that’s not your mentor. the mob just mentions that you will soon be joining your mentor in death then attacks you. insidentally that event is also on a completely different scope from my idea.

Ants….that’s how a dragon see’s us. No more no less. We are beneath them even using one brain sell on us….until we killed Zhaitan that is. Now who knows whats gonna happen!?

what would have been awesome and made me really hate zhaitan is if they brought back your mentor as an undead champion as you pushed into orr. Such as when you try to ambush the eye. how would you feel facing your mentor, Tybalt for example (everone loves that guy) who has been completely corrupted and warped into a sadistic evil nemesis of sorts and you have to fight him through out your push into orr such as at the sunken temple instead of a no name champion and at various other clutch points in the story. Have them kill off other characters right in front of you and generally try to get in your way. You give evil a face (especially a face you know and like) and you will hate it to the depths of your soul even if it is some gargantuan force of nature. That’s how they should have done it. It would have been far more personal and immersive at that point you would really want to kill zhaitan. As a finisher imagine fighting your old mentor on that giant airship surrounded by undead while zhaitan flyes over head. far more epic.

I would like to point out the amount of waypointing we will be doing because of the new champion loot bags means that the reduced wp cost is way worth it. I voted for the fractal and the fact that I want the straight arrow on the council not the businessman, this is just a nice extra.

BuddhaKeks.4857:

Good Job Kiel voters. Really, you did a great job there, voting for your boring goody two-shoes character, that you just chose for cheaper way-points (because 4 weeks of cheaper travel will have such an impact in the long run!), or because you know her so well from the living story (in which she did basically nothing but standing around telling you where the action is happening).
Oh what was that? You voted Kiel because of her fractal? Oh yeah, another story in which the inquest are the villians, that’s what we needed. I mean, they only appear in 2 dungeons and and the skypirates storyline, but no let’s find out how they managed to screw up yet again! Not that we wouldn’t have gotten that information anyway if it is so important as Anet claims. No we need a fractal for that and thereby totally ruin the chance to get insight in one of the most interesting and important parts of tyria’s history in general.
I mean, who needs to see gods fighting when you can experience how some shaved badgers blow up a reactor. That’s way more important.

Oh so that also wasn’t the reason you voted for Kiel? It’s because you hate RNG and don’t want to support black lion keys? Guess what, I never bought anything from the shop and I never will. I don’t care at all about 4 weeks of cheaper keys since I wont by a single one of them. But it’s really a great idea to led an amazing part of Tyria’s lore slip away to punish evil Anet and it’s plan of RNG-based world domination. Or maybe you just voted for Kiel because she is a human and you hate Charr. I mean it’s not racism if the victim is a pile of data, isn’t it. It’s a crime without victim, you can be proud of yourself that you realized that.
You made the smart decision by voting for Kiel and I just wanted to tell you that with a pat on the shoulder. Now go and enjoy your cheap travel as long as it lasts.

By the way, you better not use a sarcasm detector on this post, it might blow up in your face.

I did it for a cookie, here, have one. Its victory flavoured.

1. were did you get these statistics?
2. As above, you have no way of knowing who likes what fractal more except for the fact that kiel is winning and even then the people voting for kiel could be voting for her for any number of reasons.
3. there going to be adding lots of new awesome things to BL chests and the new weapon skins are staying in them so plenty of people prefer this over the WP costs. It was also explained in detail on more than one occurrence that both of these bonuses will last only four weeks.
4. allot of people actually want the thaumanova fractal and your going to have to deal with that. same as 1. were did you get these statistics? there is know way to know which fractal is the most popular until its over.
5. Nice way to insult your fellow player base allow me to rebuttall. You sir/ma’am are an ignorant, misinformed individual who believes that your opinion is naturally the majority rule and in your self importance you have gone so far as to stupidly pull random statistics out the ether and try and pass it off as fact. You even go so far as to get up on a pedestal and lord your delusional self importance over your fellow player base. I say shame on you go eat a cookie.

quoting a quote of a quote what does it all meen? give me a second while I consult god.

and everything you pointed out is exactly the same for the abbadon fractal exept that lore wise nothing new would be added.

Puma.7934:

TR eventually explodes. Now you know the “how” in TR

you just kitten ed. All your statement explains is that it exploded not “how”.

Esplen.3940:

Singer.8740:

ahahahahaha!

IN YOUR FACE THAISEERAN. CRY MORE.

VOTE KIEL! A VOTE FOR KIEL IS A VOTE FOR PROGRESS!!

This is a bit over the top. I don’t expect everyone to go to the GW1Wiki just to get lore information.

Not at all, its exactly how I feel whenever an evon supporter tries to play the enigma game. so go eat a cookie or something

ahahahahaha!

IN YOUR FACE THAISEERAN. CRY MORE.

VOTE KIEL! A VOTE FOR KIEL IS A VOTE FOR PROGRESS!!

Sujuro.4096:

Put aside the lore and think about what this election means in the long run! Honestly, it is a good possibility we will see the losing fractal sometime in the future anyway!
Voting for Gnashblade is best thing we can do to support Guild Wars 2. Even if you don’t buy keys yourself, others will happily pay the reduced price. Think about steam sales. This increases profit for Anet/NCsoft which translates to an increased budget that will provide a solid foundation for future content! Save a miniscule amount of copper on reduced WP prices for a few weeks, or get better more frequent content for years to come? Vote for Gnashblade says you care about the future of Guild Wars 2.

exept the confirmed you wont ever see the other fractal so id much rather have the far more current thaumanova than the outdated fall of abbadon (first time), thank you very much.

yup its not over till the fat norn sings as they say.

So…ye….

Kiels currently winning by 383, 020 votes as of the recent exit pole. GO TEAM KIEL.

KIEL FOR PRESIDENT XD

As of the latest exit pole Kiel is winning by 383, 020 votes.

IN THE FACE NASH!!

I did too and will keep doing so. over and over and over…..

VOTE KIEL!

So Kiel is winning by 383, 020 votes. Keep up the good work Team Kiel. Nash is’nt out the race yet. Time for the final push.

VOTE KIEL. A VOTE FOR KIEL IS A VOTE FOR PROGRESS.

yes, they count as outlaws like any other pirate and/ or bandit.

I Laughed so hard when I realized how much time the noob who photo shopped this picture (and badly) waisted when he could have been using that time to actually earn votes.

/sarcasticsalute

McSlaughter.1567:

Maliel.8362:

Where is your god now farmers?!!

In the Abaddon fractal. Vote Evon!

The gods are dead. Vote Kiel! A vote for Kiel is a vote for progress.

But on the topic I am both sad and happy. I am a little sad because my chief source of income will be nerfed. I am happy that I now get to find a more exiting way to make my income. Incidentally I got my precursor two days ago so this goes a bit towards me being so laidback about this.

I am sad…..because I levelled a warrior just for cof geared him up in full exotics and an ascended amulet with a gilded infusion……

BUT I GOT MY PRECURSOR YESTERDAY!!!
my mains an engineer and quite frankly I am looking forward to getting my warrior into other dungeons and even now doing dungeons on my engineer or necro or thief.

All I can say to you guys who didn’t quite reach your money goals or used this for your main source of income is you’ve got to see the silver lining. Now you get to leave those claustrophobic flame legion halls into the daylight and go break all the other dungeons in the game. ANet knows not what forces they have unleashed unto the world XD.

P.S. vote Kiel for president.

As Tom Gore stated above you are not “forced” to do these achievements. As Colin Johanson has said right from the moment this game was announced, this game is all about being a dynamic, ever changing living world.
Lets use an example. " You buy a ticket to go watch Andy in the finals of Wimbledon but decide not to go because something came up you decided to do instead." Now you cant then go to Wimbledon the next day and receive the same experience as all those people who “chose” to go there when it happened. Not going to happen. The world moves on. now lets switch the example over " Some guys has offered you £100 if you can bring him 250 onions in 30 mins and you know there is a one time 50% off onions sale at your local supermarket but your train to Wimbledon is in 5 mins and you decide to catch that train missing this one time deal and £100." Life is about choices my friends and this is the type of game this is. If you cant handle the simple facts lined out at in this games introduction I think you best find another game because there will always be temporary content.
On the other hand the developers have said that from now on they will be bringing more lasting changes into the game as there LS team rotation starts to pick up steam. I totally agree with this as I believe there has to also be lasting changes to the world to make it feel alive. Sadly for the gamers who make the choice to not make the time commitment to the game the temporary content will sadly elude you until you decide you actually “want” to play the game.

So I was reading this interview with Colin Johanson and about half way down the page he confirms that thaumanova reactor will contain new lore relevant to the GW2 story line. So now without a shadow of a doubt you know that votes for kiel will get us new fluff to savor compared to evons abaddon fractal that will simply take us down memory lane but you don’t have to take my word for it, here read it your self. below you will find the paragraph and the link to the full article.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/colin-johanson-talks-dungeons-dragons-and-chairs

One of the biggest things about the latest patch is that, depending on the candidate who wins the votes, a different dungeon will be installed in the game. Should Gnashblade ascend onto the council, Guild Wars 2 will then be able to witness the Fall of Abaddon. But, if Ellen Kiel makes the cut, the game will bear witness to the mysteries of the Thaumanova Reactor which, unlike Abaddon, is almost completely alien to the lore. ?

“So, what -is- it?” ?

“Well, I can say that the reactor was the first prototype of the Inquest attempt to build something. Somewhat similar to what players find in the Crucible of Eternity later in the game. And the location where the Thaumanova Reactor was at one point in time exploded and destroyed what was once a research lab and turned, I would say, turned the world inside out where it occurred. I can’t give away too much more than that. I would say that if people want to know more, they should vote for Ellen and find out. Either way, it’s definitely something that ties more deeply into the lore of Guild Wars 2 than most would realize – "

Vote Kiel. A vote for Kiel is a vote for progress.

Phate.4871:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Variety is good for the game, especially a balanced variety. If we make too much of any one type of content, eventually that type of content will become tiresome. The purpose of my reply wasn’t to naysay jumping puzzles or activities, but just to let you know that something different is coming. Personally, I’m a huge fan of epic open-world dynamic events and since I’ve had a hand or two in the upcoming releases, you should get ready.

As the late Captain Mai once said, watch the skies.

Late? I never heard anything about her dying, only that she was incarcerated. Is there something in it?

I think he is referring to the fact that mai is no longer a captain as she is incarcerated when he says “late”.

Sleel.8365:

Enrixce.8471:

The reason Kiel is ahead is cus Evons bonus reward isn’t that great as it still makes us use more money. All my friends think that Kiel will reduce WP cost by 50% but im pretty sure it will be 10% max.
I’m only voting for Evon as i think he has better ideas than Kiel. Kiel doesn’t know anything about politics she should stay at the frontlines of the Lionguard as she is now

Lucien Razorbow says Vote for Evon

What the hell does “politics” have to do with anything. This isn’t like we have candidates who are going to be making laws and motions to affect how we play the game. It’s a mechanic to introduce one of two fractals and either cheaper keys or waypoints. One has better ideas, the other should stay on the front lines. Crap. This isn’t role playing that has a point in what this event is going to introduce into the game. And even if it was, people who ‘know about politics" are the ones who milk it for it’s corruption, while patting on your head for being a good little mark, like the politicians we actually have irl.

Except it was confirmed that which one you vote for will have far reaching consequences on future living story updates outside of “whichever fractal I think is awesome and the other one is kitten / kitten and mabie kitten ieherp.” So choose carefully who you vote for. Do you want the strait arrow or the business man to be deciding living story from now on, think about it and choose what you like best.

just spent 30 mins trying to party up to run cof p1. It was an epic fail. could not get into the dungeon instance half the time and the other half my party members could not. On top of this the ui bugged and i could not see my party members on it sometimes and they would also disappear from the minimap aswell. Anet fix this fast or your gonna lose gamers cuz your games unplayable in dungeons.

So basically i’m wondering will these be refunded to the players who bought them or will they remain in the game and still apply there bonuses.

Gilded infusion was basically bought to increase the monetary drop from bosses but as they will no longer do this and mobs in dungeons and/ or in the world do not generate high enough monetary drops if any. Will it and gold find in general be updated to effect the dungeon completion gold reward or should i just stop using it?

Magical infusion on the flip side will still be useful for gathering mats from mobs in dungeons and the world but as there removing MF as a gear stat and simply making it an account stat will this item remain in the game or not and will you be refunding the laurels to the buyers if you are indeed removing it. On a related but slightly off topic note will MF remain on consumables such as omnomberry bars.

I would love if i could get an answer from a dev if possible. Fellow players i also want to hear your thoughts on how you think they will change this if they do and your opinions on the MF/ GF changes in general.

Akechi Hotaru.7129:

You’re not going to fight primordus, lets just face that fact right now. You will probably fight a Great destroyer look alike. I hated the Great Destroyer so I think im gonna pass on that one. That said it would probably be more interesting to witness the fall of a god than chernobyl recreated. Even if all we do is fight some abbadon mobs n stuff.

hmmmm…“abbadon mobs n stuff” vs hordes of unleashed dragon minions, alternate dimension entities and angry displaced beasts from the world over all while an asuran style nuclear reactor is building to critical and you need to get out fast in the style of resident evil games and other survival games allong with “new” lore instead of lore we allready know about.

hmmmmm… your totally right vote nash today.

There i feel totally better now that ive got the sarcasm out of my bloodstream. You know what they say “A post a day keeps your inner warrior at bay”

the last update wasn’t for pvp/ wvw ether or the one before or the one before. they just trickle out these small extras for each and that’s it. it is plainly evedent that they need to get more involved with the people who play these things. Having keil/ evon offering to commission production of new siege wepeons and/ or trait lines and new pvp maps along with mabie introducing a way to earn votes into these formats to keep these players involved in the game is just my thoughts on this.

And im not disagreeing with you. What im saying is again….. They could have worked in ways for pvp and wvw players to get involved and interested in whats happening in the game livening things up a bit and I would like to here your idea’s for ways they could make the game more inclusive for there entire player base instead of just the few.
btw I play it all fractal, wvw, pvp, pve it just seems odd to me that these two week updates do very little for there pvp/ wvw player base in regards to livining things up.

@Tinni. you just accurately described what I am getting at, they have made no way for pvp and/ or wvw players to get invested in the update. No incentives. No mechanics for generating votes. Nadda.

@ ZudetGambeous. WvW actually makes your game better by making it easy’re to craft critical success, gold find, stat increases, etc etc just take a look at your wvw tab instead of making uninformed claims.

The sad facts are nothing will happen but I put this post up to hear your idea’s about cool things they could have doe or should do next time.

I think your forgetting that wvw generates bonuses for you “pve” players to benefit from. Kind of like pve players are on job seekers leeching from the tax payer actually lol.
But in all seriousness overlooking two thirds of a player base in something like this when there was so much potential for innovation is silly really.

My vote for Kiel.

Bring on the reactor baby yeaaah.

New fractal if you give “Kiel/ Evon” your vote. Nice.
Special Discount on goods or travel. Interesting.
Special Bonuses for pvp/wvw players if you……oh wait, there isn’t.

Why play style discrimination. Do are votes not matter. We play this game too.

There was so much potential here for deciding things such as the next piece of siege equipment to be released in wvw and/ or wvw trait line released and for pvp mabie the next map released. id love to here the thoughts and ideas of my fellow player base on this topic. Discuss.

Straegen.2938:

Zikory.6871:

IMO the other classes blast finishers are much more useful at the start of a engagement then a thieves cluster bomb. Having all your classes save/waste blast finishers anytime you need might/healing/retal is quite wasteful. Having thieves ready to blast these fields give other classes much more control over the fight.

I am not debating that a thief isn’t useful in a zerg, I think it is but it is not a strong utility zerg class. Their base mechanic (stealth) is mostly useless outside of skirmishing.

Mesmers are clearly the utility winners, but Necros condition management, Guardians everything (stability, retaliation, boon-a-palooza) and Eles pack siege capability and fantastic aura sharing are far higher on the list than the thief. Throwing a bone to the Ranger, they have the best water field in the game.

Sadly the ranger does not even get a bone because engineers have the best water field. Dat healing turret heals you more than healing spring (5040 compared to healing springs 4920) and gives half of the amount you heal to 5 other guys too (2520 hp) compared to healing spring only healing you and your pet. healing spring has a 30 sec cooldown, healing turret has a 15 sec cooldown when you pick it up .(who doesnt XD) They both give perma regen. healing spring cleanses more conditions than healing turret but you are required to stand inside the aoe to get this benefit, which brings me to my next point. the aoe range of healing springs water field is a tiny 240, you go stationary in that and you are probably dead vs zerg. Were as healing turetts aoe range is a massive 480 (double healing spring) so people can move around on the battle field and this thing will catch blast finishers all over the place and therefore gets off way way more combos. This is all before taking traits into consideration as well but i have ranted enough for one day so just to sumerise rangers get one trait that effects healing spring, engineers have a hole support healer build that is amazing in wvw. enough said. Just to say i am not dissing rangers. They have an amazing survival support build for wvw that essentualy mass cripple/ chill/ emobilizes/ roots an enemy zerg, Numerous roaming builds and just plenty to bring to the table. Sadly healing builds are not one of these things.

I totaly agree. its annoying playing the game and saving for an amazing backpack only to have your kit overlap it.

Euryon.9248:

It’s not a matter of classes, because the only stability we had was 6 seconds from SYG.
I’m sorry to break it to you, but the reason your party wiped is because you’re bad (this always sounds harsher than it is supposed to, I mean no offense)
Nothing wrong with that, it depends on how much you play the game and depends on your MMO experience in general as well. But what you’re stating in your post is just completely false.

Sigh. Another This2Easy USuck L2PNoob post.

FYI I have over 1600 hours and have leveled all 8 classes to 80 and have spent enough time in game to equip them all in full exotics through various means,mostly just by playing the game and farming. I have completed numerous dungeons, and though many of the paths (SEP2, ACP2) are long, grindy, and difficult, none were less fun or more frustrating than this one.

I am not a bad player. This is a badly-designed dungeon.

I find this post totally paradoxical you accuse him of being elite and then go spew out this rap sheet of your awsomesauce like its supposed to impress people. I have played this game for a while, not since launch mind you and I got 9 chara’s of which only three are 80 and just my main has finished gear. does this make me suck. no cuz I went into this dngn with some friends on the release day found the dungeon to be real challenging and entertaining (few wipes here or there) but you know what we got the achievements by the end of the night and now we run it for monocles and still have fun. its not perfect but if I had a choice I would do this every day over cof p1 hands down. As the person you ridiculed stated your “bad” and I will raise him one L2P. just cuz this dungeon is not a zerk fest and involves spatial awareness and actual thought doesn’t make it a bad dungeon quite the opposite in fact. enjoy the challenge and grow a pair mate.

Iehova.9518:

… and how to fix it.

Now, before y’all go “l2p scrub”, I thought this dungeon was easy, albeit annoying and cleared it as soon as I got a group. However, here are some major flaws with it that need to be addressed.

1. Kiel bugging out right before Mai. Just fix it.
2. Mai takes too long and is boring and repetitive. Instead of 4 boring phases make them interesting, like 100%->50%, cannons (only ONCE), different mechanics on 50%->0%, Horrik enrage that can actually wipe you, not just building frenzy stacks and dying like a scrublord.
3. Spinning lasers can spawn right on top of you with no warning. Have them phase into existence like the shield on Evolved Destroyer.
4. Supercharged golems both block AND daze while being able to push/pull you into the laser wall while you’re dazed. Add a 1 second ICD on their buff and consider removing one of their block/daze buffs.
5. Both CC-spamming and chain buffing trash just yells “bring stability and buff removal”. Catering to meta at best, just have them do less bloody conditions.
6. Holdout event vs. tons of trash in point 5 is boring. Make it quicker but with harder-hitting cannons and maybe a single champ that spawns once all adds are dead.
7. Didn’t we learn that putting progression-blocking events into NPC hands is a bad idea yet? Why not have Kiel tag along with the party except have her be actually useful and has no say in dungeon progression?
8. It’s temporary. ’nuff said.

And finally. No rapier/pistol skins. Add them as a guaranteed drop from Mai, or better yet, as a reward for completing all the achievements.

Overall I gave AR a 6/10. It’s not MWF quality but if it’s a team’s first project, I’m willing to let it slide.

That is all.

1. They fixed this already
2. basically you want to zerk. The fight can be done in under 15 mins with practice. I would like to see a closer WP though.
3. i agree with this. Phasing the lasers on is a great idea.
4. I dont see any issue’s with this fight. equip the right utility’s and use the peoper strategy and all is good.
5. More wanting to zerk. Learn your mobs, fight accordingly. Taskmasters confuse, swashbucklers bleed etc.
6. Im 50/50 on this. making it harder yes. champion not a good idea since the boss is right after.
7. Totally agree. She should just be hooked onto a player and say her lines at predesignated parts, and not be used to open doors
8. Nuff’ said.

Mark Katzbach.9084:

What you need to do is avoid being hit by Horrik’s cannon fire during the barrage phase of the final boss battle.

So, getting hit by Horrik’s attacks while fighting Mai and Horrik on the ground don’t count against this achievement.

Also, during the barrage phases, other cannons besides Horrik’s are shooting AoE cannon fire. Those other cannon blasts also don’t count against this achievement.

Thankyou very much for the reply this clear’s things up greatly. it also appears tht everyone was wrong about how it is done. Well time to take the gloves off and roll the sleeves up cuz its kitten kicken time. Insidentaly A-net great dungeon, love how challenging it is. I remember the adrenaline rush when me and my guildies finally managed to kill mai and horick and with just 10 secs left on the clock blasted down that airship in cinematic glory. (i pushed the button XD)