Guild Wars 2

FrostDraco.8306:

Sublimatio.6981:

no, dagger deals more dmg than axe. of course on power necro you should never leave GS but if you have to, dagger has immobilize (more breakbar dmg), corrupts 2 boons and not 1, has a 600 range heal if you need it. and the autoattack is almost on par with gs auto, while axe falls behind a lot and doesn’t cleave.

Why use dagger when you can just use GS??…..Why would you need the immob when breakbars basically don’t exist for necro??? I mean seriously, reapers hroud has more cc than dagger, why not use that instead of gimping yourself with a lower dps weapon you honestly can play a power necro without ever using? Use flesh golem instead of dagger?

Axe strips 2 boons mind you, and dagger is not on par with GS. Idk where you heard that but GS has better damage than dagger. Maybe you should actually look up the benchmarks? Oh wait, you used an immob? Theres your dps on dagger gone. GS has more cleave, blinds, chills, vuln, and more dps. The only thing dagger has over GS is lifeforce regen, which you barely even need, even on a soul reaping build, GS is better to use than dagger.

Why do you need immob, when you can just switch to axe, have similar dps, and range!? It’s almost like you have zero clue.

Axe is also ranged, which is better than staff, and slightly worse than dagger (axe is about 21-22k dps, while dagger is 23k).

Edit: I put 3 as a typo, which was incorrect its 2 boons.

wow you’re so emotional i can’t even comprehend. first of all, if you put me in quotes maybe first read what i wrote (“on power necro you should never leave GS”)

no you wont have issues finding group as necro, even though you’re right necro has a lot of issues

also a big problem is we wont be able to use gs with new elite spec. which means i wont use the new elite spec EVER. not today satan. i hope they unlink weapons from elite specs and just keep specs as traits + mechanic.

wow shall i delete my every vid that is outdated to avoid dps shaming? at the moment of that upload I was beating Farbstoff’s first benchmark. later 1UP beaten mine (with my tips btw) and now Farbstoff beaten 1UP.
point of this thread is not to fight over who is a better necro or to belittle others like you try too hard right now. point of this thread is that necro should pick an ice bow if there is any on the ground. jeez

Amicable Pugs.4503:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/237256/gw287.jpg
If you’re gonna post made up dps numbers in screenshots then get logs or vids to prove it.

lol this was a genuine question of my guildmate during a xera pug and i attached it only for fun as a joke and not to back up something i wrote. i dont expect anyone to take it seriously, its just a funny remark how epidemic+ice bow increases dmg in a way you can’t measure in the testing area (well ice bow you can).

Tarasicodissa.7084

While I agree with what you say, this is quite weird thing to see coming from an rT member, since your guild’s philosophy is **** teamplay. I seem to recall a quote along the lines “if they’re dumb enough to get themselves downed, screw ressing, just let them die, ressing is a DPS loss”…
By that logic you should never rely on conjures, those dumb eles will go downed eventually anyway, you’re better off just soloing the boss

i agree completely, if you’re about to die at least make yourself useful and give me the icebow. getting downed is something you shouldn’t be doing in the first place

Sarrs.4831:

Honestly I’d rather major prunes to the other classes’ damage ouputs.

In particular, Thief having 10+10+7% modifiers in Daredevil is ridiculous, for what is ostensibly a defense-oriented spec. It’s going to cause serious issues for second ES.

you do what you gotta do to sell the DLC :p

you assumed i need the ice bow to be competitive which is incorrect.

+you clearly don’t know the ice bow’s role. its a dmg generating tool, one class generates more damage with it and the other class not so much. the obvious choice is to give it to the first class so the team produces more damage overall. i’ve already made a thread about it in the dungeon subforum.

1) If I have a long-term goal to gear up my Reaper in Vipers ascended, is there a cheaper, exotic alternative I can use during the transition? Would Rampagers work, for instance?

i would go with sinister (rabid if u broke or rly new) rampager isn’t main condi stat.

2) Can I be a Zerker reaper in fractals until further notice? How far would I be able to go as a Minionmancer? (I have ascended zerker trinkets with AR, so that won’t be an issue).

only minions u need on power is the healing and elite one. yes you can do t4 on power reaper but viper is better

3) Is there any room for the Greatsword in a fractal vipers build?

yes it’s absolutely a must for the dps rotation!

4) Am I right to assume that the crafting priority ought to go somewhere along the lines of Dagger, Scepter, Warhorn, trinkets, legs, chest > the rest?

greatsword, scepter, dagger, trinkets, armor. you dont need warhorn, it’s only for swiftness out of combat.

5) I’m a rather casual player. I don’t intend to do much raiding, and I’d rather have gear cover as much condition duration as possible, and not have expensive food with me at all times. With this in mind, is it better to go full Viper or should I be looking at crafting some Sinister things as well?

current meta build requires 100% viper pieces even with the expensive food. use superior runes of berserker, sigils: malice and geomancy on both weapon sets

http://qtfy.eu/build/Necromancer – use guide here (the “condition reaper” one, don’t look at the “fractal reaper” as it’s outdated)

Amicable Pugs.4503:

Arc is free, use it.

I don’t know how this relates to what I wrote so let me just mark it for you with red squares so you don’t stray from the topic again. Still even with full alacrity this graph wouldn’t prove anything since we can’t see the reaper’s gameplay + we don’t know what you tried to prove with these in the first place, that ele has better dmg than necro on gorseval? SHOOK.

no, dagger deals more dmg than axe. of course on power necro you should never leave GS but if you have to, dagger has immobilize (more breakbar dmg), corrupts 2 boons and not 1, has a 600 range heal if you need it. and the autoattack is almost on par with gs auto, while axe falls behind a lot and doesn’t cleave.

Sublimatio.6981:

nobody is screwing up anything

the only time warrior is above me is on KC. rangers tend to be 1-2k dps more than me if there is no epi. if there is epi or/and ice bow for me im easily top2 or top1. usually if there is a good engi in the party i may not outdps it.
also on matthias and cairn condi mesmers are pretty competitive, sometimes i outdps them, sometimes i dont

i’d like the duration increased to like 1 minute to be on par with mes portal.

ice bow 5 also chills periodically so make sure to use it too

Amicable Pugs.4503:

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The necro has much less alacrity uptime + did the necro epi the stray mobs for extra dps? whatever the answer thats not really a thread for this kind of discussion as i’m not here to tell you necro is meta, but necro picking ice bows is beneficial.

wtf did i just read, i hope this thread gets deleted and hopefully no new player has a close encounter with it

It has come to my attention that a lot of eles are unhappy about me picking their ice bows.
Funny how mentality changed since the 2013-2014 meta when it was necessary to give thieves/mesmers a lighting hammer for dps increase.
Long story short, party wide dps>personal dps – give your ice bows to a condi reaper, let them use 5, 3, 4 and be happy because you just produced team play and a class combo. and op dmg.

May the DPS uptime be with you

why axe though, its extremely weak compared to dagger

nobody is screwing up anything and yes talking about raids here too. all i stated is purely empirical. maybe you dont get these numbers as you’re an advocate of blood magic, but thats exactly what you called – screwing up rotations/gearing. i dont, therefore my dps is competitive with the other classes

nobody needs group leech, transfusion or plague signet. dps is much more important. faster kill = less time risking death = support.
+ you are wrong, dps is much higher and competes with condi war. most of the times i have slightly more dps than war and about 2k less than condi ranger. and if i can epi a stray mob then im top1 or same as ranger, depends

just because something works doesnt mean its good. condi outperforms power

yeah, thats why the discussion is about encouraging condi gearing rather than power.

dude of course you can complete the content with bad classes and builds, we talk here about power necro being bad and not whether it can clear t4 fractals or not lol

they need to add 10% dmg increase for targets within 360 range in the reaper’s onslaught trait because its useless, deathly chill is stronger even on power build. also need to increase the modifier in soul reaping from 5% to 10% (when life force is 50%>) and add somewhere a 5% modifier to chilled foes (probably some minor trait in reaper line)
necro dps is so low because of no modifiers.
Also base gravedigger cd should be reduced by a second or two to increase dps above 50% hp. Maybe with these changes the numbers would be acceptable

Chris Mavriplis.6517:

Sublimatio.6981:

yes it is bad. comparing to other classes it has terrible dps

so DPS limit means a class is “bad” in fractals?

Yes

Please dont change quip and dreamer.

CrimsonRipper.5087:

2. Seaweed Salad. No.
Sorry, call me a whiny casual, but constantly jittering around in one spot for massive damage boosts is silly.

You are a whiny casual. Constant movement is another layer of difficulty applied to the combat and the reward is worth it for making you focus more on hand movements

yes it is bad. comparing to other classes it has terrible dps

i dont see balancing dps with survival as a legitimate goal, i believe only people who can’t skillfully play the game need to do things like this.
you can survive by dodging and positioning, especially since potions give you 50% endurance refill rate and 15% damage reduction.
reapers fill the party slot as a dps role. it is only reasonable to leave ressing to a mesmer or a druid who doesnt have that much dps.
to me its completely unreasonable to think classes dont have a fixed role. they do. warrior is for dps and buffs, chrono is for utility and buffs, druid is for buffs, then we have 2 pure dps slots for class like engi/ranger/tempest/dh/reaper.
if you compromise your dps traits as a dps class just to have some downed state advantage is just foolish, as getting downed is something people shouldn’t be doing in the first place.
dont get bitter, just get better

that would be too much tbh. i’d rather have CPC updated animation. bring back the one from closed beta tests, right now it doesn’t look like a cloud whatsoever.

power necro in fractals is bad. especially 100CM because mobs have protection and ensolyss teleports around. even if you strip protection it still has some uptime and its dramatically reducing power dps. apart from that mobs in t4 fractals have more toughness. save power necro for dungeons i’d say. but you can play whatever you want as long as people accept you in their party (they most likely wont and if they do prepare for newbie fiesta)

death magic and blood magic are obsolete in light of the new soul reaping build. we are dps class not downed state ressing class, we have druids and other no dps classes (mes) to ress people.

(talking about condi necro ofc, power takes blood always for well recharge)

it actually didnt die, it had crystallized and now its a glamazon ready for your t4 lfg

why would you pick someone up from downstate. if they managed to get downed they are liability and ressing them just so they can die again is a huge dps loss. just solo

i dont even know why necro pugs want this poor druid, it cant heal minions anymore and it has worse buffs than warrior. stupid people sticking to prehistoric comps, nothing more.

i’d rather have ruined city of arah raid

I think it’s easier than reworking skills, since field prioritization system already exists and now you’d only have to modify it

I’d rather have the combo system reworked to prioritize personal fields first

(backpack is viper too)

Justine.6351:

Yannir.4132:

Justine.6351:

Sublimatio.6981:

wvw? this is still a thing?

guy…
I was giving you your ground and you stab at me for some reason…smh…

Can I gift you with a sense of humor? Pls try not to be offended by a joke.

except he wasn’t joking in a friendly way…

https://youtu.be/AjZ2e6NhAPs?t=24s

wvw? this is still a thing?

Borderline Amazing.2308:

Sublimatio.6981:

not worth it dude, you can’t just give up 20% condi duration

The thing is you can easily get back to 100% duration with different rune/sigil choices.

you end up using krait runes and agony sigil, you lose not only bonuses from berserker runes but also 30% burning/torment/poison duration. i haven’t tried it but by intuition i predict it wouldn’t be worth it, especially when you have to wear different armor and weapons just for night time fractals

the only time they did read necro subforum was when designing revenant

not worth it dude, you can’t just give up 20% condi duration

dont use the site above, use qtfy.eu

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Canon lore is that his soul was there and his body wasn’t – until Nightfall, where he began rebuilding his body from the Realm of Torment’s landscape itself (this is why he’s just a head and two arms which look nightmarish – he was literally turning the landscape into a new body).

Are you sure about that? Canon lore is also that the chains that hold his hands were forged by Balthasar himself. If he didn’t have hands from the very beginning, who put these chains later on? Balthasar came down just to check in? I find that unlikely

wvw? pvp? this still exists?

yeah i prefer more natural assets and not full korean anime grind with over-sexualized women. the only thing i would take from them are some hardcore high-heels

UnbentMars.9126:

One example might be the battle that convinced King Doric to ask the gods to break up magic or something like that

and since that point of history involved too much magic in the environment, we pretty much have the assets already here – leylines popping above surface, ley rifts, anomalies, magical explosions, people with so much power it turns on them (matthias), people with so much power it wrecks havoc (Xera)

Funny thing is, Xera and Matthias are examples of the exact effects that happened in history when Gods released magic – as they released magic from the bloodstone, and xera/matthias harvested the same magic on their own

i hope the new raid is dark and creepy. i need more terrific landscapes

it’s so nice to have a resource like this available, kudos to qT and other people involved

Amaimon.7823:

Sublimatio.6981:

Warcry.1596:

A fractal where we assist Lornar in his stalwart defense of Beacon’s Perch against Hill Giants.

This isn’t possible, The Great Hill Giant Invasion from 534 a.e. is known to had been stopped by Lornar single-handedly. He had no allies to assist him.

we’re not copying an event in the mists, we’re being inserted into an event that took place. We’re itnruders, we’re the anomalies in the event. Even if there was a holy event that took place between 2 individuals, it’s still possible for a fractal to have more people because fractals aren’t events, they’re memories of events. And we learned from various fractals already that the memories can be combined, crossed and bend. So when we get there we might still see just Lornar fighting off the others, but can then join the fight. We’re not rewriting history, just being horseshoed into a memory of something that happened

I have to say you are correct and this is a pretty valid argument. However, it makes you wonder about the storytelling in fractals – because of this, we don’t get any substantial knowledge of the events that transpired. We only get bits of context and nothing more. Becuase of this format we can’t know if (for example) humans from volcanic fractal were actually saved or if the imbued grawl shaman actually still lives somewhere and continues to kill. This might be seen as a design flaw or not, depending on preferences. In my opinion this makes the fractal story meaningless because we don’t get definitive answers, and I like definite answers. Sorry for offtop but this was an interesting thought to ponder on.