I think that now John Smith has announced that saying anything about plans for precursors will “shock the market”, I think the price of t6 mats should be shooting through the roof.
Here’s why:
Implications of the phrase, “shock the market”.
If, after months of complaints that precursors are too difficult to acquire, Arenanet were to announce that precursors were to become even more difficult to acquire, there would be a public outrage.
If Arenanet were to announce that the precursor system were not to change, then there would be no shock.
It therefore seems much more likely that the shock will come due to precursors becoming easier to acquire.
In addition, we have this from Colin yesterday (though I haven’t seen the original in any official capacity yet, so this may not be true), “There will be other legendaries in the future. Priority is resolving ways to get precursors, including the scavenger hunt 1/2” — this adds fuel to the fire, if genuine.
Repurcussions
If precursors are easier to acquire, then t6 mats should increase in price due to everybody buying them for the completion of their legendaries.
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Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.
I think the problem people really have with buying and selling legendaries is that they have some premeditated opinion on what a legendary item should be, and the realization that ANet’s definition of a legendary item doesn’t match that person’s definition bothers them. I think if you come to terms with what a legendary is, rather than what you think it ought to be, you’ll find it all makes sense within the framework of the game. (Note: This isn’t advocating complacency, rather that you shouldn’t be trying to imprint your personal vision of the game onto ANet)
Hopefully that has helped.
Well, Arenanet made it perfectly clear what they think Legendaries should be:
“show everyone that you are a true master of Guild Wars 2” (quoted from this page entitled “Forging Your First Legendary Weapon” as though they should be available to everybody).
Legendary weapons became a mockery because the people who acquired them didn’t necessarily have to do any of these things.
I like this, but I think it should go hand-in-hand with a lot of other related changes.
On it’s own, this change does mean that upgrading keeps will be pointless. If, however, upgrades cost Karma or were free, instead, then it’s another matter.
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3) Armor repair and waypoint costs, though I feel those are trivial…
This one sinks the most of all. It is not trivial in volume.
Here’s why I say trivial:
You only pay armor repair when you die…. on average, I pay armor repair once every few days.
Outrageous claims like “I never die” are unrealistic and make me think that you never play!
If you pay 3s to WP to a faucet that grants 50s, is the WP sink significant? It slows your gain from the faucets, but not significantly. Best example: I WP from Orr to HotW, costs me 4s, and the dungeon grants 65s+ in pure coin rewards (boss kills + dungeon reward.) The 4s is not significant
Simply wrong.
The place that I feel we need more sinks is at the higher end of the economy, because Luxury goods are moving further in price away from the ‘average man’ income / wealth level…. and a lack of sinks at the high end allows that gap to widen, creating a barrier to market entry.
Just a quick note—I said the odds of it dropping was closer to .005 than the 1 in a million or so that was tossed out. Those aren’t the exact odds, but if my math is correct, 10 players running the event every day might expect one staff to drop after about 7 months. (And we haven’t been out that long.)
This is an odd way of saying “one drop every 5.83333 years”.
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it would be really interesting to see if both dawn and dusk share the percent of other legendaries (for example they have 0.01%) or if they have 0.005+0.005.
I made a previous thread about that, but i couldn’t get a dev response on how two precursors of the same type were handled. But knowing how bad the rates can be i assume there is a coin toss to decide what is the precursor(if there are two greatswords).
I doubt they would put extra code in, they are probably just items on a table.
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If more players would craft like that, the food market wouldn’t be in the rut it is now.
I don’t think you can blame guides for the lack of demand of certain items. Lots of things are in too few other recipes. Look at all the high end stuff – everything needs lodestones and/or ectoplasms. Why not spread the necessary ingredients around, let us use other things? Unless frustrating and unnecessary bottlenecks are all part of the grand plan, ofc.
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Just a video by WoodenPotatoes giving insight on this great game as a whole. I thought it would be a good idea to put this out there. Developers can always use positive feedback, whether they implement anything or not.
I think BogOtter nails it in the comments section for me. Traditional quests aren’t the answer, but extra bits and bobs, things to interact with, secret codes, clues, mysteries, puzzles etc. would give some extra zest, zip, vim and/or vigour to the game-world.
One of my friends found a secret cave in Lion’s Arch with a candle, shovel, a coin and a suitcase (with impossible-to-read text on it -too low resolution to make out the letters). This was something special and we spent an afternoon trying to decypher the text on the suitcase. Things like this are great!
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proper use of invisible etc bags you would never actually be able to compact anything you dont want to compact anyway
I don’t understand why my bags are insufficient. They are big and were expensive. It feels as though Arenanet have put a booby-trap into the game to force me to buy expensive bags.
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The problem is that nearly all items aren’t in high demand. In this game, they think it’s a good idea to have a few lodestones and ectoplasms as the key ingredients in every high-end recipe instead of a broader range of different things. Thus lots of things are sitting there, useless and unwanted.
Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.
Deflation is a very real threat, and should be avoided at pretty much any cost. While the negative effects of deflation are reduced in a video game economy, they still are problems. With the fixed prices for so many things in GW2, there’s also issues unique to games that arise.
I’m not seeing an issue. Please expand -what are these “negative effects”?
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Thanks for the youtube tip there
Here is the link to the vid i made of it, and at 36 seconds you can see when it pops from sunrise to twilight it flashes the sunrise aura when twilight comes out. I do agree there are a lot of legendaries lacking for sure so I am not taking away from that fact at all. I feel especially for those with the mace….
I think Eternity should have it’s own unique handle and then just the blade should change appearance at the switch-over. But that’s just my HO.
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because of the DR system this is causing a huge imbalance and a huge gap upon earning money by playing the market sim, and for those who are trying to put their work in in farming. There is no DR on the Trading post.
Whose to say you putting in your power trading work is worth more than us trying to work equally as hard farming? How is your time worth more than ours? ANET has clearly shown their side that they value traders more than others as the DR speaks for itself. Which is frustrating to all of those players that don’t want to power trade.
Sadly, the ingredients used in most crafted items sell for more then the finished product because resources are so scarce. Crafting in GW2 was not developed to be what most players love about crafting.
Combined, it means that the majority of foods are impossible to sell at profit. Eventually enough people will realize it is cheaper to buy the item off the TP than make it themselves and the demand for the finished good will rise while supply drops.
This will probably take a year or two is my guess, and honestly, that’s being optimistic.
Obviously, this all comes down to;
supply: how prevalent the nodes are in the game-world and
demand: how many pies are eaten.
I think there is a 250-unit buffer where people aren’t selling the components they collect because when they hit “deposit all collectibles” all of them disappear from their bags. When people fill those 250-units, they will dump a lot more stuff on the TP (either the few in their bags in excess of the 250 or the 250 whole from their collection-banks to renew the buffer). When these components hit the market, the crafting cost will drop, but by the same logic so will the price of the finished product (due to competition).
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after 2 hours of farming in magic find gear, I collected *3*of my own………………………
How the hell is the average player supposed to afford to get 250 of these mats when they are so high? Why are they skyrocketing so much? 2 hours of farming to be able to only buy single digits of a t6 mat (not even a lodestone)!?
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You’ll travel all over, collecting items and amassing materials to build your Legendary Weapon.
I’m not saying anyone is “entitled” to have a pre, there are simply those who got one and those who didn’t. If you don’t like the group you are in, do something about it.
I think that people are investing their time on the forum as part of the democratic process to influence Arenanet to change the game-mechanics. I understand that some people aren’t aware of it in this context, but this is the, “doing something about it”, that you refer to.
So, because you think the prices are too high and gambling the forge is too low a chance, it should be changed? I understand the why but have you thought about the fact that NOT EVERYONE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET ONE. It seems to me that many people are under the impression I am wrong in this.
Now we’re getting to the point I made in THIS thread that the wrong people have already got the legendaries and in THIS thread that we need new Mythical Weapons to replace them as the most desirable weapons in the game.
Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.
1) T3 armor at 100g+ / set is a a sink, but there are 8 dungeon looks that provide alternatives to the single T3 set, and the fact that the T3 set must be transmuted onto exotic armor makes it a less appealing sink…
2) 100g for Icey Runestones for the legendary, + the 10g recipies required along the way.
3) Armor repair and waypoint costs, though I feel those are trivial…
4) Listing / selling fees at the TP.
5) Commander
6) WvW Upgrades, here is a small example of the costs (these have to be paid for many times each day – people farm PvE dungeons to buy these – gameplay they wouldn’t choose to play given the option):
(Costs quoted for a regular keep)
Tier 1 – Build Cannons 30s0c
Tier 2 – Build Mortars 45s0c
Tier 3 – Build Waypoint 75s0c + 500karma
Tier 1 – Reinforce Walls 37s50
Tier 2 – Reinforce Doors 75s0c
Tier 3 – Fortify Keep 1g50s0c
Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.
I’m not saying anyone is “entitled” to have a pre, there are simply those who got one and those who didn’t. If you don’t like the group you are in, do something about it.
I think that people are investing their time on the forum as part of the democratic process to influence Arenanet to change the game-mechanics. I understand that some people aren’t aware of it in this context, but this is the, “doing something about it”, that you refer to.
Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.
And here’s something positive because posts have to be positive or they get deleted. I like peas, they’re really nice, especially when I have them with a lovely pie. Pie and peas! It’s real food for real people!
Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.
Mythical Weapons should be what the now-tainted and debased “Legendary” Weapons failed to be:
i.e. Difficult to acquire and related to Achievements, not luck or grind.
Why Achievements and not drops?
The previous Legendary system was flawed in that it did not achieve the desired outcomes of;
We can’t have any recipes that are karma/coin only due to the ease in earning karma and coin.
This makes no sense.
The real answer is to make them expensive in karma and coin.
No, this makes perfect sense. What is expensive one day, is less expensive the next.
Coin is expensive one day and inexpensive the next?
Over time, more coin enters the market, and the value of coin diminishes. Perfect example is the precursor market. Near launch, a precursor would trade for less than 100g because no one had that much coin. Now, they trade upwards of 700g, and _people do have that much coin.
Does not compute. John Smith is always saying that there is no inflation etc. The thing is… if I look at non-precursor items, they really aren’t inflating. The fact is, you picked an extraordinary market as your example.
Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.
It’s a huge compliment.
So my answer to the OP is “No”.