Main: Caeimhe – Sylvari Ranger
Alts: Charr Guardian, Asura Elementalist, Human Thief, Norn Necromancer
Where is your god now farmers?!!
Its called the black lion trading company. I mean that is the last place that people can make a lot of money and anet can’t nerf that right?……Right? I don’t really see why people freak out so much about CoF 1 farming but no one thinks about Tp flipping. I guess its because technically TP flipping actually takes money out of the game while CoF puts money in.
Possibly because some of us hate TP flipping and think it should be disallowed. I consider all TP flippers to be unrepentant leeches on the system and you will never be able to convince me otherwise.
All I’ve really seen in this sub-forum about which candidate is the ‘better’ choice is all hair-picked hyperbole. And any time anyone presents something neutral, factual, or even something clearly stated as opinion, they get attacked by people quite rabid in defense of their opinion.
It’s just like real politics and it’s quite sad, really. I play games as an escape from that kittenry. And now it’s right here in my face. Just ugh…
It means people are incredibly invested in their choices and by extension this game. Ultimately, it’s a good thing to have players so involved. Besides, many posters are role-playing and clearly having a blast with it. Why does the fact that certain people enjoy things you dislike make you sad? People play games to have fun, and many posters are having a good time with their mud slinging campaigns.
People may, but for those sick of the American political system and the related campaigns and mud-slinging this is just a terrible reminder of a broken system.
The only bad thing is when people trying to have a direct conversation get interrupted by the mud-slingers. Each conversation has it’s own place. It’s one of those “don’t cross the streams” thing.
Your complaint is that you don’t want to do the content in the way they specifically designed it. That you don’t want to feel like you have to do it, even though you don’t, and that you want to get the reward without playing in the manner they designed the area to be played as. That is whining.
No, this!
I’m sorry, but discussing it and the issues that have arisen from it is not whining. It is discussing.
All those that insist that it is whining are those that are trying to discredit those discussing politely. How about joining in the discussion politely instead of just saying it is whining as it conflicts with your views, eh?
The actual argument is that most of us don’t think that the kite should be in the puzzle in the first place.
If you’re going to put it that way, then the argument is that some of you don’t think that, and most of us don’t care or think it’s fine as is.
Many that ’don’t care’ just want what they see as free kills. Any who act like that instead of stepping back and seeing issues where they are are not worth considering.
Now some may truly not care. Good for them. But for many PvEers, this is an issue that warrants a moment’s consideration.
How is it poorly implemented? They quite successfully created a zone where people are encouraged to fight eachother in order to gain a tangible reward. An area that simultaneously causes people who don’t actually want to be involved to consistently subject themselves to the turmoil of the event.
Quite simple really. There’s multiple locations that are such good chokepoints that all real counter-play is lost, and the only real solution to get by is either vastly outnumber your enemy, hope they don’t know where the good chokepoints are or how to use them, or wait for them to leave, and thanks to AoEs being spherical, it’s possible to place CC traps that hit players mid-jump, and thus are impossible to dodge.
Just saying “Devs intended PvP, thus it’s ok” shows ignorance of the fact that PvP experiences can be inherently flawed. In this case, sections like the well and arena are too easily camped with little risk; especially for classes with trap-like AoEs like the ranger, necro and thief. And there are too few options for dealing with these campers.
Yeah. Pretty much this.
If they wanted to get people interested in WvW, they should have put it in one of the main WvW maps. That way people would see what WvW does and how it operates. Putting it in a chokepoint heavy jumping puzzle only shows the worst of PvP and nothing of WvW.
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Actually that is false. Read here on the genesis of magic in the world of Tyria.
Take that article with a grain of salt. I see a lot of speculation up there still, despite a tag warning of lack of confirmation of facts being removed.
If we’re operating strictly from ‘confirmed’ facts, then all we really have to go on is the history laid out in GW1, which does state that the gods arrived and brought humans with them. In GW1 it is not even hinted that any other races worshipped the human gods.
That doesn’t matter to most. They just want to rail on us PvE ‘carebears’ that they think are unwilling to try and unskilled to boot. shakes head
No, it’s just that the constant whining gets old.
Plus you guys seem to have this fantasy of this sacred wall between WvW and PvE that never ever ever gets crossed, ever, and this one thing is a huge slap in your face or something. Meanwhile those of us that focus on WvW and have to do PvE-stuff all the time are just seeing what appears to be a bunch of entitled whiners that already have the majority of the game catering to them so much that now they’re spoiled and can’t handle one little achievement potentially being tough to get.
I mean really, people posting that they’re going to quit over a kite? How is that even a thing?
Complaints of what seems to be a poorly implemented idea is not whining. It is making our irritation known. Just as WvWers complain about the achievement system being poorly implemented for them. Again, that is complaining and not whining.
My biggest problem with the kite being in the puzzle is it is a terrible introduction to WvW because it does not represent what WvW is. It feels like PvP, not WvW. So it gives the wrong idea of what WvW is and drives many potential WvWers away. I know, personally, if that JP had been my first taste of WvW that I would never go back.
And before you jump on me as many in the past have, I have not only gotten it of my own accord this time and last but I have also escorted and portalled guildies and others from my server.
Hmm. Interesting how the actual argument gets ignored time and time again by people jumping in the thread and not reading anything that came before.
What actual argument exactly? The actual argument is that a guy from a rival server is complaining that our server was camping the site and preventing him from getting through, despite the fact that his server did the exact same thing back to us.
The argument is that he has really bad timing and plays when we control the map instead of when his people do.
The actual argument is that most of us don’t think that the kite should be in the puzzle in the first place.
I’ve completed many runs. Only one skin when I finished in 6th or so place. Placing first has nothing to do with skin chance.
How do you know that?
It just seems logical to me that better placement = better chances. At least if I was a dev, I would surely implement this.
Empirically there is no proof either way. But from what I’ve observed and heard, placing has nothing to do with skin chance.
That is such a minute boost. About 1 silver and exactly 300 karma. For that little, I see no reason to not assist others.
Aha! But with 65% karma boost that’s 495 karma already!
Jokes aside: I got my Wind cather skin (sold for 10 g) too when finishing first. There might not be no connection, but hey, I’m not gonna risk it.
I’ve completed many runs. Only one skin when I finished in 6th or so place. Placing first has nothing to do with skin chance.
Did you guys know that the prize for first place and the rest is different?
The coinbag contains + 1-2 silver, and the karma reward is also greater.
Well, so much for letting anyone come in first – at least on my side.
That is such a minute boost. About 1 silver and exactly 300 karma. For that little, I see no reason to not assist others.
He hair-picks the phrasing, I can do it too :P
All I’ve really seen in this sub-forum about which candidate is the ‘better’ choice is all hair-picked hyperbole. And any time anyone presents something neutral, factual, or even something clearly stated as opinion, they get attacked by people quite rabid in defense of their opinion.
It’s just like real politics and it’s quite sad, really. I play games as an escape from that kittenry. And now it’s right here in my face. Just ugh…
Got the cutting board out? Great, because, now that we come to discuss rewards, there’s more hair to dice.
Evon Gnashblade: “If I am elected to the Captain’s Council, I’ll show my gratitude for your support in the following ways:” Thank-you gift anyone?
“Ellen” Kiel: “If I’m fortunate enough to earn a position on the Captain’s Council, here’s what you can expect from Ellen Kiel:” Bribe anyone?
Let’s face the truth. They are both bribes, just as all campaign promises are.
Simple. Logical fallacy. Appeal to emotion.
And voting against Evon due to RNG is False attribution.
Arguable. Yes, the decisions are made by ArenaNet. But the in-game face for the economy and what goes in the gem store, aka the character who runs the Trading Post, is Evon.
Not entirely sure how voting for Kiel makes you a dumb player, but whatever. After four weeks, the point is moot, and the only thing that will matter to the players is the fractal, and double for anet of what they can do with a new member on the council.
Simple. Logical fallacy. Appeal to emotion.
I hadn’t before that point so the statement was not untruthful.
Correct, however it has been apparent throughout this entire discussion what your stance on the matter has been, yet you have not stated it up until now so again, thank you.
Note that I did state on numerous occasion that there is nothing wrong with that fact and that it is endemic to the concept of competition. You know … before you accuse me of ill-will.
Yes. I read all of both posts. But it is not worth my time to refute each point one at a time. I have better things to do than try to discuss with someone who does not seem to have actually read the dialogues and understand that more goes on than we have directly seen in cutscenes.
Perfect answer. Thank You for Your time then. However ironicly it sounds.
And please – for the future. Don’t try to tell someone what he saw, read – clearly or not. You may be heavily mistaken. Sounding arrogant, doesn’t make Your points more valid ^^
I’m not saying you didn’t. I said that it does not seem you did. Distinction.
I’m wondering why I even bother bringing in logic if it will just get ignored.
*sigh*
Oh. Right. Because people are dead set on single-player RPG storytelling in an MMO. And they want everything to be because of them.
lol
and now I’m wondering why I even bother with answering. No point when everything is answered with mithical magical power of logic that overwrite every argument.Oh. Right. Because some people are dead set on legendary impassable MMO boundries that can not be crossed to not casue travel in time paradox. And they want everything to be trivial, because You know. 5th person with simillar background, character and narration is something to be expected from devs who have in their ranks some really amazing storytellers.
…did You even read what I wrote, or You gave up after first counterargument?
Yes. I read all of both posts. But it is not worth my time to refute each point one at a time. I have better things to do than try to discuss with someone who does not seem to have actually read the dialogues and understand that more goes on than we have directly seen in cutscenes.
She didn’t murder anyone if you payed any attention at all to dialogue.
I heard what Kiel claimed.
Inspector Ellen Kiel: Luckily, my Lionguard had orders to clear the ship if anything unexpected happened.
Sounds like BS to me. What was the something ‘unexpected’- explosions? I’m not sure clearing a deck while explosions happen means that everyone got to safety.
She’s clearly willing to lie about bombing the ship, why would you think lying about Consortium deaths would phase her? She clearly considers them evil, all because refuges willingly signed contracts for personal enrichment.
Note that the Consortium guy right there when the ship blew said nothing about the crew. Only mentioned the records. I’m pretty sure if she blew up the crew he would have said something.
Again, that action is against everything the chara has been built up as. Combine that with the fact that she did say that the Lionguard had orders to evacuate the decks (meaning not just themselves) and it is obvious that she set up the situation. It becomes obvious that the ship blew up with noone on board. Only arguments against are pure propaganda and are based on absolutely nothing.
If anyone wants to read my quote at the top of the thread you’ll see that Anet had states they don’t plan on doing both fractals as a way to not cheapen the impact o the vote. I think that doing this actually really cheapens it because now we will vote only based on which fractal we want, not about who we want directing the future of the story
Pretty much. Illusion of choice. And the obviously loaded the more interesting fractal behind who they want to win.
I’m wondering why I even bother bringing in logic if it will just get ignored.
*sigh*
Oh. Right. Because people are dead set on single-player RPG storytelling in an MMO. And they want everything to be because of them.
Technically coming in first every time is selfish. Yes, it is supposed to be competitive. Yes, it is PvP. But by strict dictionary definition, wanting to win each and every time in a solo competition is selfish.
That isn’t necessarily a bad thing. That is the point of competition for many. But that doesn’t change the meaning of the word.
I’ve not really called those players selfish.
Thank you for biting.
I hadn’t before that point so the statement was not untruthful.
He’s started it back up again Enjoy the QQ-
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Passive-Benefits-Are-Terrible/first#post2453677
Ohgeeze … that thread …
*shakes head*
It’s probably a “Stop Crying and L2P” action because they don’t really delete the threads over the OP builds.
You’re right. They just nerf the ‘OP’ builds, leaving the actual OP builds intact.
Now try quoting the second part of what you said too
Fine.
And I can’t force myself to vote for Evon due to RNG being linked to him through the BLTC, which he does run.
This is also valid. It does not matter how many good things someone provides if they also provide things which you disagree with. Yes, he brought good things. But he also brought bad things which I highly loathe. So for that reason I cannot vote for him.
The definitions have no mention of whether choosing to act or not applies the term “selfish.” Merely assuming so is illogical. The definitions do state that you must have a lack of consideration to be selfish. Therefore, Many sprint champions are not selfish.
I disagree on that, but I think we’ll need to agree to disagree at this point.
Umm … how is winning and denying others victory not ‘to the exclusion of regard for others’?
It is. You are not considering others when you win. And again, that is just the nature of competition. It is not wrong to win. But it is selfish.
I don’t see how winning prohibits me from considering others. As I stated earlier, I do in-fact consider others’ success while in first. Whether I act on that chain of thought is a different story. As the definitions state, in order to be selfish, one must lack a consideration of others. While I am sure there are some who do, placing first plays no part in that final outcome.
I’m sorry, but just ‘considering’ others then not acting on that ‘consideration’ is still selfish. Using that logic anyone acting selfish can use that as a defense to say they are not. Selfishness is selfishness.
And again, all selfishness is not inherently bad. This is a competition, where we reward selfishness. That is the point of a competition.
Because if they ever need to try to beat us and adapt then we must be OP. It’s never their fault. Didn’t you get that memo?
I went with the Oxford definition as Google has never been an authority on language.
1. a. Devoted to or concerned with one’s own advantage or welfare to the exclusion of regard for others.
By that definition, winning is selfish. And again, that is not a bad thing. It is simply the nature of the beast.
I’m not saying that one should always allow others to win. I’m not saying that it is bad if you choose to always win. I’m simply saying that winning is selfish by nature.
While I agree with everything else here, I still want to point out, now, that it conflicts with Oxford’s definition as well, seeing as Oxford’s and Google’s definitions are both the same. To be selfish, as both organizations state, one will have to be “lacking consideration for others.” Again, being in a solo competitive scene in which you choose to win, does not make you, or anyone, selfish.
Umm … how is winning and denying others victory not ‘to the exclusion of regard for others’?
It is. You are not considering others when you win. And again, that is just the nature of competition. It is not wrong to win. But it is selfish.
He still does far more than we would as players.
And what about now? Now that Zhaitan is gone, we have not interfaced with the Pact at all. Were we the leaders then that would make no sense from a storytelling perspective.
Um, that’s because the choice is taken from us as players. We fight all over the world to take down different aspects of the dragons. We have fought and killed the lieutenants, we have fought and killed various aspects of the dragons. What you are referring to is caused because of how the story is written. What’s being said is that the story makes no sense. Do you really think the pact is going to put someone in charge that the player has to even convince them is good enough to begin with? The players are the reason the pact follows tre, not because he’s some awesome leader. That awesome leader would be the players that have earned the respect of not only the three orders, but every race as well.
But for reasons explained in the storyline we are ineligible. In order for the pact to remain unified they needed someone not linked to any particular order to lead it. Otherwise they would be concerned of favoritism. We, as charas, are part of one of the orders. Thus the other two orders could not trust us from the get-go.
Thus Trahearne was nominated, and by the player no less. He was trusted by all and was not linked to any. And for the Orr campaign, this makes sense. Noone in the world of Tyria was more knowledgeable about Orr and Zhaitan than Trahearne.
Now whether he should remain in charge for further stuff … my hope is no. He did make sense against Zhaitan. He doesn’t make sense elsewhere. And now that the Pact has experience and has been around a while, it is possible that they can now trust a leader that comes from one of the orders. This opens it up to many.
I’m sorry but that makes no sense to me. Just as it didn’t in Fable 3. Fable got away with it because that world is already silly and comical beyond relief. But in a more realistic take on fantasy it does not make sense for the leader of a giant military organization to spend that little time doing the planning/organization/leading.
The leader of an organization of that nature will always get saddled with the mundane stuff. That is their job. To lead.
For us to be the overall ‘leader’ and do none of the duties that come with the position is to make us terrible leaders. I’d rather be a great right-hand to a leader than a terrible leader.
The President of the United States is the Commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces. He does not do the mundane stuff though, instead he has people appointed that make those decisions for him. He gives input, and makes decisions on some things, but over all it’s handled by people under him with more expertise (usually).
He still does far more than we would as players.
And what about now? Now that Zhaitan is gone, we have not interfaced with the Pact at all. Were we the leaders then that would make no sense from a storytelling perspective.
Being selfish is putting consideration for oneself above consideration of others, to the point to the point of adversely affecting others. In a competition this is true. Competitions are build around the concept of selfishness. Again, this is neither inherently good nor inherently bad. It is just the nature of competition.
Not according to Google’s definition.
I went with the Oxford definition as Google has never been an authority on language.
1. a. Devoted to or concerned with one’s own advantage or welfare to the exclusion of regard for others.
By that definition, winning is selfish. And again, that is not a bad thing. It is simply the nature of the beast.
I’m not saying that one should always allow others to win. I’m not saying that it is bad if you choose to always win. I’m simply saying that winning is selfish by nature.
But if you did, what would you do? You’d be too busy for all that adventuring stuff. Your game would be over. Nothing more to do.
Those charas were created to take those roles to allow us players to keep enjoying the game. This is no single-player RPG where we beat it and the game is over. There is more to do after we win. But taking those roles would prevent that.
Not true at all. Much like the fable 3 story line, they could easily handle the day to day matters while we get the power/prestige that comes with it. Tre could simply say "You are the Head of the Pact, but I also know that only an adventurer like you can take the fight to the Dragons. I will work as your assistant and handle the more medial tasks, when you have need of my expertise I am at your command. "
In this way the player gets the ultimate reward, we are the ones that do all of the work, but doesn’t get saddled with the more mundane stuff.
I’m sorry but that makes no sense to me. Just as it didn’t in Fable 3. Fable got away with it because that world is already silly and comical beyond relief. But in a more realistic take on fantasy it does not make sense for the leader of a giant military organization to spend that little time doing the planning/organization/leading.
The leader of an organization of that nature will always get saddled with the mundane stuff. That is their job. To lead.
For us to be the overall ‘leader’ and do none of the duties that come with the position is to make us terrible leaders. I’d rather be a great right-hand to a leader than a terrible leader.
Do as you want. Theres always be whiny little girls, who want get ALL ACHIEVEMENT IN THE WORLD but they cant even try properly.
Have you not read that many are unable to win outside of extreme luck due to lag/latency issues completely outside of their control, despite trying extremely hard?
By definition itself, the act is still selfish. That is simply the nature of competition. It is neither inherently good nor inherently bad.
Not saying this is what everyone should do, mind you, but if you were strictly trying for challenge, getting there first but not taking the win should suffice for the challenge.
I’m not so sure. To be selfish, one would have to be “Lacking consideration for others” as the definition states. Personally, when I’m in first, I’m not lacking consideration; I’m always considering the success of those around me. The difference being: I don’t act on that (always).
Being selfish is putting consideration for oneself above consideration of others, to the point to the point of adversely affecting others. In a competition this is true. Competitions are build around the concept of selfishness. Again, this is neither inherently good nor inherently bad. It is just the nature of competition.
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Technically coming in first every time is selfish. Yes, it is supposed to be competitive. Yes, it is PvP. But by strict dictionary definition, wanting to win each and every time in a solo competition is selfish.
That isn’t necessarily a bad thing. That is the point of competition for many. But that doesn’t change the meaning of the word.
I don’t think people ‘want’ to win each and every time, so much as they ‘try’ to win. There’s a difference; one is for greed (for lack of a better word), the other, challenge.
By definition itself, the act is still selfish. That is simply the nature of competition. It is neither inherently good nor inherently bad.
Not saying this is what everyone should do, mind you, but if you were strictly trying for challenge, getting there first but not taking the win should suffice for the challenge.
It is selfish to take 1st every time.
No, it isn’t.
It is a competitive PvP enviroment, there is nothing selfish about striving to win it, it is unfortunate that oceanic players are lagging but it is not up to everyone else to take that into consideration when racing.
The mere fact that you think it is selfish just portrays exactly why it is bad to stop and let someone else win.
Technically coming in first every time is selfish. Yes, it is supposed to be competitive. Yes, it is PvP. But by strict dictionary definition, wanting to win each and every time in a solo competition is selfish.
That isn’t necessarily a bad thing. That is the point of competition for many. But that doesn’t change the meaning of the word.
Meh. Pretty much everyone one this forum is a QQ omg ranger sucks cry baby. Yea, any role we can do is pretty much covered better by other classes. But it doesn’t really matter cause the only groups that won’t take you are hardcore speed runners. I get into dungeons just fine and its very easy to find groups. (Gw2lfg)
Nah. That’s only a small vocal minority. Most of us rangers know where the class stands. We can do well enough, but we have no niche that isn’t done better by others. That ain’t cryin’. It’s just realizing where we stand.
All that being said, I still main my ranger in dungeons. I prefer it’s playstyle.
Just be warned that lots of groups, even non-speedrunners, won’t take you due to the stigma the class has picked up. You don’t want those groups anyways. Plenty of other groups still will take you.
Nah. It’s about voting for whoever we think is best. IC and lore-wise, I think Kiel is a better fit. And I can’t force myself to vote for Evon due to RNG being linked to him through the BLTC, which he does run.
Then you should vote for him because of what you said.
If things related to BLTC are his fault, start thanking him for being able to easily sell and buy stuff from everyone in the whole game whenever you want
If you’re going to blame him for the bad parts about echonomics in the game, start blaming him for how your life is much easier thanks to him (start thinking about how much time you would’ve lost or how many items you would’ve simply sold to a merchan NPC with GW1 system).
Not to mention all the cool things in the gem store that aren’t RNG related, but somehow, because they’re good, they aren’t mentioned when blaming Evon for stuff.
Hmm. You must have missed something I said. Let me repeat that for you so I am perfectly clear.
Nah. It’s about voting for whoever we think is best. IC and lore-wise, I think Kiel is a better fit.
If its a discrete drop of a particular weapon, that rapier is going to be stupid expensive.
Time to start grinding for monies now?
I don’t think we should demand both immediately. But we should ask that the other does eventually become available. Especially as we now know that, at the very least, they have the story for both.
As a lore-fiend … I must know! But I will be patient and hope they realize that permanently withholding potential story is not cool.
From what it sounds they will be rare direct drops. Still involves RNG (what doesn’t honestly), but it doesn’t sound like they will be costing us monies.
Sounds like its pretty much the Jetpack all over again
And the monocle. And most things, TBH. So long as the drop rate is just a little bit higher. That’s a lot of different possible weapons, after all.
I’m sorry but how does a Ranger trading spirit health and damage for lower energy costs make the Ranger better at Spirit builds when Rits never had energy problems with spirit builds?
With proper placement and use of Summon Spirits you could mitigate most of the incoming damage making the higher health of spirits mostly unnecessary. And when you were too slow on the summon, the damage spikes would often kill the spirits, even if they were boosted by Spawning Power.
As for the energy? Rits can run out of energy in protracted combat due to the more expensive summons and their other attack skills. Never once as a ranger did I ever run out of energy.
And before you assume I didn’t play both … I did. A rit was one of my primary alt charas, made when I started Factions shortly after it released. Still one of my favorites. Mostly for resto/preservation builds. But when it comes to default spirit spamming, I will always prefer my ranger. Never once a complaint.
Rangers are still viable. We just need to work much harder to do as well as others do with less effort.
I’m hoping these will take a fair amount of effort to get, but not entirely held behind an RNG wall (especially paid RNG) like the current BL skins. These are the first set of weapon skins that I am really, really looking forward to so I am going to be putting a lot of effort towards them, it would just be a shame if it’s all for nothing.
From what it sounds they will be rare direct drops. Still involves RNG (what doesn’t honestly), but it doesn’t sound like they will be costing us monies.
Vote for Ellen Kiel, she will cure your illness once elected.
Already my plan.
Maybe you should reread the post you quoted. The poster is on your “side.”
That doesn’t matter to most. They just want to rail on us PvE ‘carebears’ that they think are unwilling to try and unskilled to boot. *shakes head*
As long as the campaigning doesn’t become absurd in-game.
As someone who hates the political games we call campaigning, just from reading the forums, I can’t wait until this event is over, and it hasn’t even started officially.
By players it already has become absurd in-game and in the forums, what with people abandoning logic and ignoring other’s statements to try to discredit any opinions that disagree with theirs. Just like real elections, it’s already making me feel sick.
Nah. It’s about voting for whoever we think is best. IC and lore-wise, I think Kiel is a better fit. And I can’t force myself to vote for Evon due to RNG being linked to him through the BLTC, which he does run.
You say you think Kiel is the best, and then you say that you won’t vote for Evon due to mechanics that are beyond his control. Don’t make excuses for your species bias. Evon is the best because of his business background. He’s an expert negotiator. Kiel is just better looking than the other pirates on the Council, and took credit for our saving people.
Evon = experience
Kiel = pretty face that can swing a sword… and then swing it again#Evon4Council
Hmm. You missed where I said I think Kiel is better IC and lore-wise. Please don’t cherry-pick part of my post and ignore direct statements trying to villianize me. Thanks.
As a race I find the Charr far more fascinating than Humans. Humans are boring. But in this case, with the characters that are established, Kiel is the better fit. Evon is simply a capitalist. Kiel is more altruistic with experience leading others for reasons other than profit. And she has been quite successful.
No, she did not take our credit. She spearheaded the efforts. She gathered others to help, our charas included. She was the brains of that operation. We were just the muscle. Anyone who thinks that she stole credit is blatantly ignoring or ignorant of lore.
I’m not pinning anyones expectations nor behavior on you, I am however confident that win-trading like this definitly can be seen as a promoter for entitlement.
Eh. People who are prone to feelings of entitlement will do that regardless. I won’t let their bad judgement keep me from acting kindly towards others.
And don’t assume that I don’t also give tips. I do. But I also know that I would prevent many/most from having a chance to win were I do race at full effort. Especially when all I care about is the reward given to any finisher.
There was no assumption made regarding wether you give tips or not, the only thing I did was point out that while you claim the win-gifting is helping people, I feel that tips would be more beneficial.
So take the longer routes, put limitations on yourself and still try to win, atleast you’re not giving it away for free then.
Already do. Still get there first. I don’t want to win. I just want to finish. So I wait. And I will keep doing that.
Yes, but this might end up becoming a “thing” in the future, whenever theres a event that offers you a reward for fulfilling objective X in a competitive enviroment, it may just become the norm of the community that people are expected to pass up on their winnings in an attempt to advance the less fortunate ones.
Some feel that it is expected. I don’t. If someone passes on a win that is that single individual granting that. It should never be expected. If you receive it, that’s nice. If you don’t, well … that’s how the game is played.
It’s a gift, not a privilege or a right. So long as people all remember that, then all is good.
You can make your view known by not buying keys. And I’ll make my view known by continuing to buy Gems, and using them for everything from chests to vanity items.
The fact that people WANT things only offered as a chance from a chest, and the fact that they’re WILLING to take that chance, they give up all rights to complain once they click that button. Knowing full well of what you’re getting into, and still doing it, speaks volumes.
But I digress. This election isn’t about RNG. It’s about Evon winning.
#Evon4Council
Nah. It’s about voting for whoever we think is best. IC and lore-wise, I think Kiel is a better fit. And I can’t force myself to vote for Evon due to RNG being linked to him through the BLTC, which he does run.
Right. Dodge right off the platforms that you need to climb. Because players will spam AoEs over the entire platforms, you know.
Correcting myself.
“Learn to juke.”
Once I see you or any single player (or even a group of two players) climb the colosseum successfully past aware campers on top, then I’ll believe your statement that it is possible. Until then, I’ll go off of my own observations. That only a decent zerg (15+ players) can bypass that chokepoint that can be easily held by 4-5.
It’s more about voting against Evon to protest RNG and letting it be very obvious that that is why we are voting against him. It’s more ‘making a point’ than anything else.
Then let me tell you some logic you couldn’t find on your own. Your ‘point’ has been made very obvious hundreds of times, over and over, by every kitten thread that has ever spouted anything against RNG. Anet knows we hate RNG, they may hate it almost as much as us. But the publisher controls the developer. If NCsoft says to put in RNG, they have to put in RNG. Furthermore, after diving into RNG, people then complain on the forums as though they shouldn’t even have the choice, simply because they didn’t have the willpower to not buy RNG when they knew it was RNG.
NCSoft actually interferes very little with ANet. The RNG is on ANet, not NCSoft. They have the clout to say no to NCSoft as they are NCSoft’s only real breadwinner.
And people ‘delve’ into RNG chests as they are the only way to get some temporary skins. It’s not willpower. It’s wanting the skins and that being the only way to obtain them.
And yes, we have been clear in the past. That does not mean we should stop making our view known. It means we should continue to make our voice heard so we will continue to see less real money RNG.
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