Guild Wars 2

Lol you aren’t even missing anything. all it is is a group of pact soldiers gets captured by bandits and you set out to save them only to find out that it’s too late. That’s it.

The lightning attack that wipes your team you don’t avoid, you have to have 4 people standing in the green circles when they spawn, if you don’t everyone dies.

PlasticHippo.8934:

why is it that 95% of the time where people talk about the difficulty of Raids what the means is difficulty of the first boss and just assume everyone thinks raids = first boss?

I also mentioned gorseval in my post. I did not mention sabetha because I haven’t attempted her yet, i’d rather not speak on things I don’t know about. But from what I’ve heard she isn’t that bad either.

Honestly I’ve had absolutely no difficulty with gorseval, his mechanics are far easier than vale guardian and since you need less specific roles you’re free to have more power dps to compensate for the shorter timer.

Labjax.2465:

You could have just said, “Look at how awesome I am and how bad you are” and saved everyone the trouble of reading between the lines.

It never fails to tickle me, the mental gymnastics of saying “this is easy,” while simultaneously calling it “hard content.”

My point was not to say look how good i am, my point was that even I can easily do it in pugs, and quite honestly, I’m not that good. If I can do it anyone can.

I assume you aren’t breaking his bar fast enough, and if you do the non bar break technique, he will do that every single time he comes out of that. which is why that is generally a bad strategy at later phases unless you have under a minute left on the timer.

People just want instant gratification, I don’t understand this because this has never been what games were about to begin with.

Funny, I don’t remember saying world first anywhere, I know reading is difficult. Go back under your bridge now. The two screenie’s were only posted to give verification that it was two different pugs.

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Just beat Vale Guardian twice in pugs, it’s not that hard, stop complaining just because you don’t want to put in the time and effort to actually learn the fight and it’s mechanics. They are easily do able in the time limit, most often vale guardian has over a minute left over.

Gorseval is even easier on mechanics, all you need is high dps.

They do not need another difficulty, this is a ridiculous idea. Casuals have their way with 95% of the game. Stop trying to get things tuned to your skill level because you are too lazy to put in any effort. Instead maybe accept the content isn’t for you and go back to the other 95% of the game, or spend some time to improve instead of complain.

I know this is shocking, but every other MMO has hard content in it. About time Guild wars finally added something somewhat difficult. As for the story you all claim to be missing, all your missing is that bandits captured a pact squad and you go and try to rescue them, Spoiler alert, most are dead anyway( If not all of them) There, that’s it.

The toughness thing has a point, if the boss is constantly changing targets it’s impossible to kill. Please know what you’re talking about before complaining about it….

yeah the buggy sword 3 is annoying as hell

it doesn’t? it gets way less.

Because then guardians would hardly be used, Revs don’t need reflect, they are already strong in terms of dps and support.

bye felicia

MaximillianVonSchatten.6278:

I tried the raid for the 1st time last night. Yes the fights are fun and all, but I don’t have 2 hours to spare to kill 1 boss; I had to bow out after we had reached level 4 of the vale guardian. Also, people in my group were buying new gear for boon stripping; I have my legendaries and I want to use my legendaries. And no, I don’t want to overwrite my super expensive sigils with ones tailored for a particular boss.

So the long and short of it was: I spent 2 1/2 hours of time, overwrote 2 expensive sigils on my weapons that I will have to re-buy to play other content and I recieved zero loot. Not sure it’s worth my future efforts.

Sounds like it’s just not for you. if you don’t have time to learn the mechanics then you can’t complain about not being able to do the boss. As for overwriting anything, You don’t even have to, especially for boonstrip. So i’m not sure why you did that.

mrauls.6519:

I believe there was a guild that killed the Vale Guardian during the beta.

Here’s a link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-poOgTxwxfY

They werent a pug, he said world first by a pug.

Anet needs to not cave on this one since legendary armor is not any better than ascended. Purely cosmetic and can change stats which is cool, but not neccesary.

Congratulations.

Thanks so much Anet, This is the kind of content that players have been starving for. My only complaint is the enrage timer seems a little short, i’d increase it by a minute personally, but i admit this is a learn to play issue. I’ve been having a blast getting my kitten handed to me.

I love the fact that tanking is sort of a thing in raids, I enjoy that there are more roles than just straight up dps now. Even if everyone is in zerker it still promotes other styles of play to an extent, You guys did really well with raids.

ZachAttack.3957:

The one to Rule.2593:

I doubt that. The zerker meta is never going to change.

For raids it’s looking like it will.

According to whom? the only people to beat vale guardian in beta were in zerker.

The few reapers I pugged with earlier I was thankful to have for their boonstripping, because we didn’t really have any other access to it at the time. I think they are viable, just might not be optimal

Berserker, with scholar or strength runes.

Psychopath.9740:

I disagree with you good sir, condi can be fun on Revenant, while Rev’s weakness is and always will be condition burst – unless they will fix Mallyx out of it’s nerfed state (90% of builds run Mallyx only for his ult.. in power builds.. for the 10% stat incerase) – which means every Reaper worth his robes will obliterate either power or condition revenant – running Mace+Axe on my revenant is very satysfying to see people trying to run around with 15 stacks of torment, revenant’s auto-boon strip each 25 seconds is nice as well – i have been having a lot of fun on my condition revenant

I’ve never once lost to a reaper. Long range them with hammer and they can’t even touch you. also 90% of power builds do not run mallyx at all. They run shiro/glint. Condi on rev is pretty bad you have some torment sure, but this will never be meta.

As a rev/reaper/and DH. Never had a single issue.

I mained necro for awhile, it’s slightly different, but overall more enjoyable to me due to more dps for one, and far more teamplay with glint once you get it unlocked. Also the traits in general are better.

But as always, just see for yourself. it’s got it’s own playstyle for sure and that feels different from almost anything else.

cuz condi is bad on rev

rev is in top 3 dps classes, you’ll like it

rage is useless with facet of darkness. go scholar

I doubt that. The zerker meta is never going to change.

Hard at first, eventually will be pugable

Hey look a useless thread, no one wants to learn dungeons ever, because what’s the point?

If it was to match Aincrad at all, that would take an immense amount of work and they’d be better off starting a new game all together. I agree we need new fractals, but not on that kind of scale.

Eight Samurai.6840:

The one to Rule.2593:

Eight Samurai.6840:

NikeEU.7690:

Why can’t you still run dungeons? If you just do the fast, efficient paths the gold per hour is still very respectable.

It really is funny because with fractal rewards completely broken and raids not out yet (nor do we know how good the rewards will actually be implemented, such as the chances to get just rare items might be super high, etc.) dungeons are still pretty fast and reliable to get gold, even after the nerf to dungeons. CoF path 1 takes about 8-10 minutes, you get about 55 silver (plus loot) from your daily and completion reward. Just keep running those fast easy paths and that’s several gold you didn’t have before in just an hours worth of time. Also, I hear that Arah path 4 still awards 3g or so.

@The one to Rule I think your failing to understand that there is a lot of deflation happening right now whether Anet intended it or not. Stop comparing the rewards to pre-HoT. As of now Dungeons are still a very good way to make gold.

Arah path 4 also takes over 2 hours to do, it’s the longest dungeon path in the entire game and entirely not worth doing once you get the dungeon master achievement. When you can pick flax for more gold per hour than running dungeons just by planting 5 of your toons on the flax farming spot, Yeah I think there’s something wrong.

I don’t even care about the gold from dungeons, but lets not live under the delusion that it’s good money anymore.

Well, I could make the argument that yes, the path is hard, but once you know what to do and how to do it the best way, it should take no more than an hour tops. An hour to earn 3-4 gold post-HoT is pretty good deal. Yes, of course you can farm flax too between all your alts, but after those 5 minutes of farming, you still have plenty of time to run anything else in game (unless you have only 5 minutes to play then yeah…).

About the dungeon comment, again it’s not the only way to make money, but it’s still extremely profitable. I think most forget those shiny tokens you get can be converted for free into rare or exotic armors/weapons and salvaged for lets say, several silk/linen and ectos. So, not only do you earn 55s for a 10 minute (probably less) dungeon run, but you can earn about 1-3 ectos, several extra mats (depending on what you spend your tokens on), plus drops. Sounds good to me with this new economy.

Yeah it would be fast, except the only people that run dungeons anymore are the ones who have no clue what they are doing. Just getting a group for arah alone is a nightmare, let alone one that knows what they are doing. This will easily take you over 2 hours, it’s just not worth it.

Running dungeons is actually very mediocre compared with other options. Gathering and completing events on the new maps is far better, Hell, silver wastes is far better. Dungeons previously were less gold per hour than Silverwastes and tbh didn’t even need to be nerfed. If you want to nerf inflation, nerf silver wastes.

You seriously don’t know what utilities each class brings by now? I think some reading may be in order…. cuz this thread is entirely pointless.

Eight Samurai.6840:

NikeEU.7690:

Why can’t you still run dungeons? If you just do the fast, efficient paths the gold per hour is still very respectable.

It really is funny because with fractal rewards completely broken and raids not out yet (nor do we know how good the rewards will actually be implemented, such as the chances to get just rare items might be super high, etc.) dungeons are still pretty fast and reliable to get gold, even after the nerf to dungeons. CoF path 1 takes about 8-10 minutes, you get about 55 silver (plus loot) from your daily and completion reward. Just keep running those fast easy paths and that’s several gold you didn’t have before in just an hours worth of time. Also, I hear that Arah path 4 still awards 3g or so.

@The one to Rule I think your failing to understand that there is a lot of deflation happening right now whether Anet intended it or not. Stop comparing the rewards to pre-HoT. As of now Dungeons are still a very good way to make gold.

Arah path 4 also takes over 2 hours to do, it’s the longest dungeon path in the entire game and entirely not worth doing once you get the dungeon master achievement. When you can pick flax for more gold per hour than running dungeons just by planting 5 of your toons on the flax farming spot, Yeah I think there’s something wrong.

I don’t even care about the gold from dungeons, but lets not live under the delusion that it’s good money anymore.

I think there are bigger priorities for a net to work on right now, it’s not like moss man was ever hard anyway.

They basically said that a group of pact soldiers were captured and the raid is the story of how you rescue them.

NikeEU.7690:

Why can’t you still run dungeons? If you just do the fast, efficient paths the gold per hour is still very respectable.

Lol!!! that’s a good joke.

Raids will change nothing.

FourthVariety.5463:

The one to Rule.2593:

You’re meant to have a set before you get to that point, the rest is for gearing alts.

I do not remember anybody from ArenaNet ever saying that. It could be considered rude to ask people to enter a specific (and good) content only for the purposes of equipping secondary characters and ask players to leave, if they are on their first character; or simply on their main.

Of course, we are all free to make up our own excuses for the structure of specific content and rewards. ArenaNet will hardly ever deny nor confirm speculation that is in their favor.

The fact that it’s impossible to do the highest level fractals without ascended armor is just that a fact. You need it to do it, so the only purpose of ascended drops at that point is to gear alts. this is no excuse, this is a fact.

FourthVariety.5463:

Before you get to the point in Fractals where you might receive an ascended weapon/armor as a reward, you must already have way more ascended equipment than the Fractals provide. That is not how carrot on a stick works.

It is not about gold, or XP, or anything. It should be about a good progression. Right now, you bring the ascended stuff you have, Fractals can add two rings in a reasonable amount of time, and then you just progress Fractals by progressing your equipment playing stuff outside Fractals. There is no strategy for an AR progression from just within the fractals because for no reason AR is linked to ascended equipment.

That means that even a very good player will progress to the point, where Fractals kill him for even a small mistake, which is fun once, maybe twice. Then you look at the time scale you need to solve this hurdle by just adding another 5 or 10 AR and the timescale gets rather crazy. For what? That you run in the same problem five Fractals higher?

Does the player then stop because it was fun and he had his fill? Does the player stop because it was frustration? Which player is more likely to return? All players might quit eventually, but it is up to ArenaNet to influence the mood in which they quit. Not necessarily the entire game, but just one game mode. One way to influence them is build better walls to run into.

You’re meant to have a set before you get to that point, the rest is for gearing alts.

so don’t stand in it. Problem solved.

Malediktus.9250:

If you nerf their toughness, please increase their power scaling. When I did Mai Trin on lvl 100 it felt like she was doing less damage than on the old lvl 50. On lvl 100 she should one hit low health classes!

Disagree, guardians are already squishy enough with their 11k hp. Don’t need to be one shotted on top of that and since base hp is dictated by class this will lead to some classes not being used at all and discriminated against.

Loosmaster.8263:

I also read, if I remember correctly, in Collins statement for the 2016 vision, they will be changing stats/specs quarterly to prevent Metas from occurring.

l000l yeah right.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Gaile Gray.6029:

Balance
After reviewing stat scaling we have decided to make an adjustment to how toughness scales. From fractal scale 1 to 50 the toughness stat of creatures will scale up with the fractal scale. Beyond fractal scale 50 the toughness stat of creatures will no longer increase with the scale of the fractal. This is to make damage builds more viable in higher level fractals.
John

Honest question expecting an answer: Wasn’t your first intention to make fractals above 50 an actual challenging content? I mean, what’s the point of having an additional 50 levels where difficulty does not scale up?

All you did with HoT was to increase armor and HP of bosses in order to make things “more challenging”. Plan failed greatly because all the change accomplished, was to make things more boring and not more challenging at all. You admit that it was a mistake, by removing the insane toughness scale above 50, but what about your actual first intention? Challenging content…

Did you just go back to your word and said “to heck with it, zerker meta is not going anywhere”?

If there are no other balance changes other than the ones you mentioned, the game will still be the same spam #1 and go to loot. No new mechanics, no new anything, no sight of challenging content.

Anyways, read it or ignore it, I just had to ask.

The zerker meta never changed, it’s always been and always will be that way
Get used to it

posthumecaver.6473:

IAMANDLOVE.3095:

if u cant grind, then dont play mmo!

Uhm, as I said for 2 pieces I didn’t have to grind at all, 3 years of PVP was enough for that.

And I get my gold by flipping when I wait for queue pop up, so no worries.

I just want to know these were the regular prices or with the release of the HoT it is extremely bad time to do this.

300g is cheap if that’s all its costing yoi

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

The one to Rule.2593:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

The one to Rule.2593:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

The one to Rule.2593:

spoj.9672:

Spreadsheets are not why people think necro is bad. The reality of the classes previous lack of utility was the reason. Had nothing to do with dps and it had nothing to do with spreadsheets. You dont calculate utility on spreadsheets.

Maybe those players should rely less on teammates preventing them from dying and rely more on their own skill then there wouldn’t be this stupid persecution of classes. Honestly, I’ve played every class in the game quite a bit. I don’t find necromancers lacking at all.

“Prevent them from dying” what the kitten lmao
It’s not about people relying on others not to die, it’s about bringing useful tools to the party like fields, blasts, reflects/projectile destruction, unique buffs etc. so that the party can achieve higher efficiency and a smoother run.
That being said, yes, Necromancers got better over time but back then we didn’t have as much to bring.

So what? rely on yourself and not everyone else. Rely on what YOU can bring to a team not what everyone else can. Necro does bring things to the table so I’m not really sure where all this is coming from. We have projectile destruction, party wide life siphon Great dps and guess what? we don’t have to rely on ele’s or ps warriors for our own might generation. Aoe blinds for team support in bosses where people are dying all the time. Transfusion etc. Not to even mention boonstripping and team condi cleanses.

Our support is different, but it does not make it bad by any means.

Sorry come again?
Why in hell would I >not< expect my party to bring things? If I want to rely on myself I solo.
Besides, I especially mentioned that Necros didn’t have much BACK THEN, because we surely didn’t have CPC, leech and other things in their current form months or years ago, which is the time that stigma is coming from in the first place. DPS is also okay, not great. Other classes outperform us.
Yes, even back then Necro was capable of some nifty tricks, the issue however was that it wasn’t as easily accessible or was plagued by other issues when another class was able to do this in a much easier fashion. One of the reasons Necro isn’t optimal and, back then, much less viable. Now we’re finally closing this gap, though I doubt we’ll ever see a spot in optimal party compositions except things are going to change in one way or another.

If you’re dying all the time in a party, chances are it’s probably you being bad and not your party, people really need to stop blaming everyone else when they fail at things. And quite honestly, if you aren’t going for world record runs, 2-3 minutes extra on a dungeon path is no big deal.

Now that dungeons are dying, the only real place we’ll see the " meta" bs that forces us to play classes we don’t even like are going to be in raids. Completely discriminating against classes is not good for the health of this game. I agree there are inherent flaws with necromancers, but there are flaws to any class.

Why are you so fixated on people dying? No one ever said they’re dying left and right.

Also, it is your fault for letting yourself get discriminated in a godkitten videogame, when the solution the your “issue” would’ve been “open own lfg” or “join a guild”. As a Necro main over three years, I never had any issues. Don’t join groups which are looking for specific things when you can’t fulfill the requirements and you won’t have issues, really.

It’s my fault for "letting myself get discriminated " ? do you even read the things you type before you actually type them? That statement was probably the single most idiotic thing i’ve read on these forums.

That said, your posts about groups and guilds is rather irrelevant. Half the time I played necro when I got into dungeons saying things like “Lfg p1” and nothing else mind you, I’d get insta kicked for playing necro before i even joined the instance. Playing in a guild with friends is all well and good, but it doesn’t solve the problem it only serves to ignore it and pretend that it’s not really happening to people.

Hammer is one of the best ranged weapons in the game, I don’t get the hammer hate either.

can’t go wrong with mesmer, chronomancer is pretty OP

you don’t need the 15 infusions. 3 10’s and 2 11’s will do

300g? lol that’s nothing…. My ascended gear cost me about 600g for the armor alone + runes then another 2-300g for weapons +sigils.