Guild Wars 2

Here’s a proper DPS Guardian VS some Risen Giants: http://youtu.be/NoXwp94Bltk

Would any of you PVT Guardian advocates mind recording and posting a video of your “tank” spec VS a Risen Giant? We will also get to see how good of a player you are, so we can see if your PVT is a crutch for poor skill level or not. Post a video if you aren’t afraid

Bambu.4270:

Because seeing big hits is more popular than multiple small hits.

And when you have multiple people in the same group all trying to go for the multiple small hits, all of the multiple small hits get spread out and you become even more useless

Wesnoth.1705:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QwiTyE5vqw

Yeah, but direct damage is still better. It’s not a hard concept to understand.

ForGreatJustice.3452:

Goose.5196:

Well, I will accept Rangers are good when they get rid of the dodge bug on the Sword auto-attack.

Turn off auto-attack. Develop timing with pressing #1. Press a direction key between #1 presses, then dodge, problem solved.

I don’t even play with autoattack turned off. I just got used to it being on.

Goose.5196:

Well, I will accept Rangers are good when they get rid of the dodge bug on the Sword auto-attack.

There’s not a bug. It’s an issue of L2P and BHB.

It’s easy for pugs to range all of the bosses in path 3 and the trash runs in the rest of the paths are too hard.

You still range Bloomhunger though, right?

Dub.1273:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Dub.1273:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

It won’t become flooded with people selling spots because the only people that sell spots are those skilled enough to solo / duo it. I’ve had no competition so far

You are skilled enough?

Yes, and I use keybinds too

That’s the reason why i have problems believing!
I have yet to see your quaggan lupicus solo.

I just bought some Quaggan Tonics

Dub.1273:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

It won’t become flooded with people selling spots because the only people that sell spots are those skilled enough to solo / duo it. I’ve had no competition so far

You are skilled enough?

Yes, and I use keybinds too

SkyChef.5432:

It has been proven for a long time that human is remarkable. They always know how to make lemonade from lemon.

They also know how to complain about lemons and drive the lemon vendors out of town with angry mobs.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

I cannot fathom why the OP cares what other people pay for and what other people sell. Personally I am growing tired of the tedious moralizing from disinterested parties.

If we don’t force our morality on other people, there will be no one that lives by it.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

What result are you looking for with this thread in specific? As I said, there will always be winners and losers in any change of system. You didn’t end up on the happy side. We get it. Some of us are there too. But making BHB QQ posts is ridiculous.

Plus one for BHB

It won’t become flooded with people selling spots because the only people that sell spots are those skilled enough to solo / duo it. I’ve had no competition so far

spoj.9672:

Im surprised the threads werent deleted. We really do repel devs and it seems we now repel forum moderators.

Or maybe they just don’t know what’s serious and what isn’t.

Dub.1273:

You have a super core Arah team?

Yes, and none of them are skill clickers either

Anubarak.3012:

colesy.8490:

Awesome. It’ll be good to finally have the entire meta solved. Sure, it’ll take the pugs months to catch up but at least the information will be there for groups wanting to maximise their efficiency.

To be honest: who cares what DnT say? ( -> related to pugs) This is NO attack or anything else against this guild but it is like it is…. Sure DnT is an elite guild but just because they have some good ranger it doesn’t mean that I’ll run with this profession.

I noticed it in our german forum: “DnT sad >rangers are good – don’t hate them< so I’m AWESOME with my brownbear-Longbow-Ranger”
A good player will always be good with any profession. A better team will always deal more dmg than a worse team but you shouldn’t forget in arah or ta you run 90% of your time. Even when you are able to kill stuff 20% faster you’ll lose your time while running^^

edit: 90% of the players are just following the war-mes meta but have no plan how to play their profession…. warriors are good: yeah my sword-axt condition is a must have… rangers are good: same thing. Nothing will change

The idea of my (Not Eugene’s) Ranger builds and various videos were to demonstrate that Ranger has potential as a class, because a lot of people didn’t and still don’t think that Ranger has any potential to be good. I’m sure there are people running around on Ranger that don’t even have Sword abilities unlocked, and the whole idea was to show people what they were missing out on, etc.

colesy.8490:

This is why I’m asking for serious engineer speed clear footage.

I want guang to run his ideal dungeon group composition with serious, fully geared players and for him to post the results.

I will invite him along with our super core Arah group. I’ve played with him on his Engineer before but we had pugs. I’ll record everything as well.

Nikaido.3457:

DaKillaOfHell.5907:

Guardians also deal lesser damage than, for example, warriors.

I missed some of the gems in this thread. It’s not true. As long as you just have one war in the group giving the banners the guardian’s damage is actually higher. Guardians won’t win solo videos like soloing the giants in orr but their damage in a buffed group is very strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ts_F6jHyM

Well for that particular boss you usually pick the war because of the bad game mechanic (debuff on the boss allowing you to do more damage if you use an instant burst skill right when it’s getting close to 50% hp meaning you get past 50% with one last debuffed hit) but I did that to demonstrate the guard sustain. You can see the real nondebuffed boss numbers when the group goes in (including an instant 58K whirling wrath right at the end).

Scepter with with Chains of Light, Ray of Judgement, and Smite running in > Greatsword anti-burst non-critting Whirling Wrath.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Wasn’t that the point of high level Fractals? That eventually it does so much damage that you’ll die no matter what?

People like challenges and getting better at the game. That doesn’t happen in low level Fractals.

colesy.8490:

Nikaido.3457:

AH is a grandmaster. Guanglai’s build is not AH. And usually AH builds have ton of points in the even more useless line Honor. Honor’s only redeeming traits are the vigor and symbol ones, and you only really need the symbol ones for hammer.

What I’m saying is that basically the only reason guardians put points in to Valour was for AH, so I’m not understanding why he’d put 20 in. And then you stick 10 points in Zeal so you can get 10% (or is it 15%?) more damage against burning enemies so I’m not understanding why he’d use 20 there as well.

His build just seems strange, though maybe there’s some guang-math I’m missing.

It’s for Crit Damage and Retributive Armor.

Maybe you could try Sentinel’s armor?

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I also don’t know why you are still asking for videos when Brazil uploads videos pretty much every day of him using my builds (or similar) blowing up your miserable warrior numbers.

Hmmmm….. I see the point you are making, but perhaps you should give me more credit instead of saying “using your builds.” I’ve spent loads of time testing, playing, deviating, and recording videos for all of the builds I have, not to mention giving advice to just about everyone that asks for it.

Marrond.1385:

Brazil trolling 7/10. You can do better.

:(

The path is too hard and something needs to be done, it’s that simple. I cannot even get my rewards from spending hours trying to kill this boss. I’m glad the dungeon tokens were fixed and that the dungeons actually gives money now, but that reward system is no good if people can’t access it.

I was pugging today and this boss wiped us. I was on my Warrior and we had no reflects and the animation for the spider spawn attack is very hard to see, so I would appreciate it if something could be done to fix a boss that is too hard to beat for pugs.

Do people even bother to look through the forum and see if there are other threads about this?

Prysin.8542:

zencow.3651:

Shiren.9532:

Wethospu.6437:

Based on my observations it takes about 6 months for pugs to catch up with the meta. Whatever people say here will be valid next year.

Do you think there will be a ranger meta where most pug groups are bringing sword rangers with frost spirit even if the devs don’t make any balance changes to the sword leap-lock and spirit and pet survivability?

Probably not… Sword ranger auto hurts my brains so I’d assume most pugs would ignore it.

if using sword, Lightning Reflexes are MANDATORY for hard hitting enemies. LR is the only skill that will abort the sword animation inbetween two strikes. 40 seconds CD (32 if traited). It is a good panic button either way, but will hurt group utility. Question is; can the group keep you alive through regen/direct heal? If the answer is no, take LR.

It’s nowhere close to mandatory.

Chryzo.8906:

and yet they provide you with scrolls to lvl alts up to lvl 20… yeah …

They only provide them to people that won’t need them, AKA lots of achievement points.

Dub.1273:

Dub.1273:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Dub.1273:

Broadicea.8294:

video of an entire team being perfectly shielded by WoR, pl0x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnFKz8v0a4

That’s some pro skill clicking right there.

I know my gameplay hasn’t been very good those days.
I have keybinds for everything but Skill 9 by now! My mouse is missing a 4th extra button ._.

Some improvement here: 7:57 Lupicus Guardian solo

Edit: Link fixed.

Still a skill-clicker, though.

It’s a fact that my guild is the best in the game and I am the best player in the game. Anyone that disagrees is simply wrong and a hater.

hybrid.5027:

Inevitable.8920:

No that’s what the gold bonus is for they kittened up the tokens and its really annoying for people who want armor

I’d recommend finding a good guild that you can do all 3 paths with, or 4 in the case of Arah.

He’s in my guild. We are the best guild in Guild Wars 2.

Anet is trying to force the good players out of the game so the casuals can spend money in the Gem Store.

Dub.1273:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Dub.1273:

Broadicea.8294:

video of an entire team being perfectly shielded by WoR, pl0x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnFKz8v0a4

That’s some pro skill clicking right there.

I know my gameplay hasn’t been very good those days.
I have keybinds for everything but Skill 9 by now! My mouse is missing a 4th extra button ._.

Just use Combat Mode. That will solve all of your problems.

Dub.1273:

Broadicea.8294:

video of an entire team being perfectly shielded by WoR, pl0x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnFKz8v0a4

That’s some pro skill clicking right there.

It’s not about Mesmer being high DPS, it’s about the utility it provides (like everyone else has already said). Necromancer DPS isn’t enough to warrant taking it.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

I always assumed swift was ‘the’ fan girl, now I don’t even

Nope. Swiftpaw is not my fangirl.

Dub.1273:

So you finally married brazil?

I have a fangirl and I won’t cheat on her with Swiftpaw.

azureai.9764:

Chryzo.8906:

They really need to fix the search function of the forum

They also need a dev to address a problem that’s come up multiple times in this forum.

The devs don’t come here anymore. They haven’t for quite some time.

tom.7468:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Tier 1: Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Thief
Tier 2: Mesmer, Elementalist
Tier 3: Engineer, Necromancer

Berserker ele and necro outdps guardians and thieves by a ton were talking as much as 2x their dps. Thieves hit hard but their cleaving damage with sword is not that strong pistolwhip got overnerfed.

Actually, you’ll find that they don’t.

Tier 1: Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Thief
Tier 2: Mesmer, Elementalist
Tier 3: Engineer, Necromancer

TheKillerAngel.3596:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

ilr.9675:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I’m good at Arah. Path 1 is fast.

inb4 more video spams

That was a good link. I’m a lot fatter and creepier looking than that, though.

Have you considered running P4 and selling the slots?

If I did not have a soul I would do this.

ilr.9675:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I’m good at Arah. Path 1 is fast.

inb4 more video spams

That was a good link. I’m a lot fatter and creepier looking than that, though.

Broadicea.8294:

Saying “path 4 only takes about 30 minutes” is like saying the 40-yard only takes 4.2 seconds. Or a marathon only takes 2.5 hours.

We’re not all Usain Bolts. If the reward was set in anticipation of 1-2 hour runs that would be more in line with the average dungeon community. Then the folks who can speedrun it get a nice reward for their accomplishments.

If they increased the rewards, I wouldn’t really have a problem with it. I just really don’t think it’s a big deal to have the reward at 3 gold. I really don’t see a lot of people doing this path daily, even if it were to give 6 gold. The average person will get the reward once or twice, maybe 3 times and the extra gold would be insignificant. Super farmers would benefit once per day, so I guess it would be cool for people like me. I’m still indifferent about it.

laokoko.7403:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

laokoko.7403:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Old Tancred.7439:

The simple fact of the matter is that if a dungeon path/boss can’t be done by a well balanced, skilled, coordinated group, then it’s broken. If you have to go get an NPC killed to make 50% of the listed strategies work, then it’s broken. Nightmare Tree in F/U is broken. The only way to beat it is with gimmicks and builds, or getting lucky and having him bug so when he spams his egg attack, no silvers spawn.

The salt in the wounds is Anet saying that not enough people are running all the paths of a dungeon. Maybe, oh, I dunno, if the paths and bosses were balanced more people would run them more than once for the achievment.

Yeah, but using reflection isn’t something that is exclusive to ubergroups. Pugs can use them too.

Actually I’m not sure if some class have reflect. All those uber groups somehow have guardian and mesmer.

Thief has Smokescreen, Mesmer has Feedback / Warden / Temporal Curtain, Guardian has Wall / Shield / Zealot’s Defense / Sanctuary, Ranger has Whirling Defense, and I’m sure that there are plenty of others that I can’t think of.

They are either not on par or they are not a popular weapon choice. You are expecting a PUG with ranger using an axe, or an elementist using a focus. They are called a PUG for a reason.

I was running fotm10 on dredge boss. And the 2 warrior in my group dont’ even carry a range weapon. Not that it is impossible to melee, but for those 2 warrior they should have carry a range weapon.

There are good pugs and bad pugs. If you want to say “good pugs that understand the game can’t do this path in TA,” then you are most likely incorrect. If you want to say “bad pugs that want to facetank with Soldier’s gear and don’t want to use game mechanics can’t do this path,” then good. They need to learn mechanics and suffer if they want rewards handed to them.

laokoko.7403:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Old Tancred.7439:

The simple fact of the matter is that if a dungeon path/boss can’t be done by a well balanced, skilled, coordinated group, then it’s broken. If you have to go get an NPC killed to make 50% of the listed strategies work, then it’s broken. Nightmare Tree in F/U is broken. The only way to beat it is with gimmicks and builds, or getting lucky and having him bug so when he spams his egg attack, no silvers spawn.

The salt in the wounds is Anet saying that not enough people are running all the paths of a dungeon. Maybe, oh, I dunno, if the paths and bosses were balanced more people would run them more than once for the achievment.

Yeah, but using reflection isn’t something that is exclusive to ubergroups. Pugs can use them too.

Actually I’m not sure if some class have reflect. All those uber groups somehow have guardian and mesmer.

Thief has Smokescreen, Mesmer has Feedback / Warden / Temporal Curtain, Guardian has Wall / Shield / Zealot’s Defense / Sanctuary, Ranger has Whirling Defense, and I’m sure that there are plenty of others that I can’t think of.

Old Tancred.7439:

The simple fact of the matter is that if a dungeon path/boss can’t be done by a well balanced, skilled, coordinated group, then it’s broken. If you have to go get an NPC killed to make 50% of the listed strategies work, then it’s broken. Nightmare Tree in F/U is broken. The only way to beat it is with gimmicks and builds, or getting lucky and having him bug so when he spams his egg attack, no silvers spawn.

The salt in the wounds is Anet saying that not enough people are running all the paths of a dungeon. Maybe, oh, I dunno, if the paths and bosses were balanced more people would run them more than once for the achievment.

Yeah, but using reflection isn’t something that is exclusive to ubergroups. Pugs can use them too.

TheKillerAngel.3596:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

TBH path 1 and 2 are the fastest. Path 3 is pretty fast and path 4 is pretty fast as well. If path 1 rewarded 6 gold and I could clear it in 15-20 minutes, that would be my farm spot. Even if it only gives 3 gold, I’ll still do it.

I think 6 would be too much for path 1, but appropriate for path 4.

If I were in charge of dungeon rewards, I’d have rewards based on clear times/other objectives (Standard/Expert/Master like GW1), bosses killed, enemies killed, etc. Something a lot more complex than what there is right now.

Path 4 only takes about 25-30 minutes though. The only people that would do it daily for the purpose of farming the reward would be people that could do it quickly. Not that I have a problem with that, but 6 is kind of a lot. I guess if you look at it from the perspective of all of the other paths giving 3 gold and taking ~15 minutes, it could still make sense at 6 gold, but there are also tons of champions and legendary bosses to kill. It would probably end up being too rewarding at that point. Again, I’m not really opposed to it, but I don’t think it’s something Anet would do because they only seem to want to nerf farming.

Dub.1273:

But Lupi doesn’t want to be skipped

I agree. Killing is faster. Double Thief speeds the yolo out of path 1.

Dub.1273:

I don’t think 15 minutes is fast.

That’s why it can be done in about 8

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Dub.1273:

But path 1 takes almost twice as long as path 2 and 1.5x as long as path 3. :/

You clearly haven’t seen them do it on stream

I’m good at Arah. Path 1 is fast.

TBH path 1 and 2 are the fastest. Path 3 is pretty fast and path 4 is pretty fast as well. If path 1 rewarded 6 gold and I could clear it in 15-20 minutes, that would be my farm spot. Even if it only gives 3 gold, I’ll still do it.