Guild Wars 2

… after Ascalonian Settlement bit?

Sorry for the question, but it’s completely unclear and I have no intention of waypointing around the world hoping that maybe there’ll be an invasion event going on.

If she doesn’t turn out to be a Mursaat, I’ll be terribly disappointed.

Primernova.5791:

I’ve never taken part in one of these, but I see what you mean about the pointlessly complex arguments and parroting in this thread.

My apologies. This subject pops up every few weeks with someone demanding weapon swap with either no balance or some very complex system to make it pseudo balanced. Then a long discussion ensues with various people supporting the idea, until enough players show exactly why it’s a bad idea. The main reason though, is because of the huge amount of potential combos. One of thsoe is bound to give an advantage that shouldn’t exist.

How about this, to keep it simple. A staff slot and no other changes? Everyone loves staff but it has so many weak points in different scenarios. It’s way too nerfed to be a main weapon imo, so it wouldn’t be game breaking at all.

The key word being imo hehe. Staff has a lot of combo fields that are prone to abuse. Blast finishers being the first thing that come to mind.

Agree with most of it but:

Solkard.5136:

Specifically, you are very weak against other ranged enemies. you have very few defense options against ranged enemies. Your few defensive skills that would be useful are short in duration and on relatively long cooldowns.

Staff has AoE blinds and Magnetic Aura, focus has invulnarability and 2 anti projectile skills, and daggers allow you to get close quickly so your melee defense (Shocking Aura) will work.

You also aren’t able to maintain vigor for consistent dodging either.

There’s a 10 point trait in Arcana that will give you vigor on critical hits, which in practice will give you permanent vigor.

Daggers deal enough conditions to make Celestial outperform PVT. For staff though, you need Eruption to make Celestial work and in PvP that’ll be iffy. I recommend to get at least 14-15k health though, as it’ll make dungeons a lot more fun (fewer things will instantly down you).

Other than that, once you get used to it damage seems to be the way to go.

For me, it’s the combo fields that make it interesting and versatile. If you’re in Air, do you go Fire→Earth for burning/might, or Earth→Fire for vulnerabilty/might? Or do you rather give your team swiftness so they can dodge stuff more easily? Where do you place your fields? To maximize your effects or your team’s? What kind of elemental do you call with your glyph? What kind of finishers does your team have? Etc.

BlackBeard.2873:

Malcastus.6240:

I used Tornado.. it worked somehow.

Hahaha, that is a good idea! Fight tornadoes with….MORE TORNADOES!!!!

Aye, it’s brilliant. But als good strategy. Start out with Armor of Earth, then when it’s about to expire, swap to Tornado form…good move.

Not the weapon swap discussion again? Is there no end to people coming up with stupidly complex systems to add weapon swaps?

ArenaNet wants to limit the number of potential skill combinations. Hence the chance of elementalists ever getting weapons swap is less than 1%.

Eles aren’t in such a bad state as these forums make it seem.

For me, using scepter’s Air 3 allowed me to not have to dodge kill shot at all. You can pretty much blind out every kill shot.

Also, summoning 2 air elementals as support helps your dps quite well, and the elite can occasionally stun Deadeye too.

ARM.3912:

OP you are completely correct. There are some people that like to pretend the class isn’t garbage, but it is.

It’s not pretending. It’s actually sticking with the profession (classes are for people that are still learning) and improving, not trying to turn it into something else but actually make the profession work as it’s intended.

And then, eles do just fine. They’re not instagib uberkillers, but they’re no pushovers either.

Hanako.1827:

I don’t like the idea of having to chain combos perfectly to take a fraction of a targets health down

Then obviously, elese aren’t your cup of tea. The staff ele revolves around combos, it’s crippled without it. But removing them would make them very bland, imho.

Rune.4231:

A staff necro, for example, has instant damage and conditions in a larger area (using greater marks) than most of our skills (using blasting staff).

Yet they have the same 5-target cap. In fact, the only ranged nuke that bypasses the limit is, in fact, Meteor Shower.

Eles have more conditions available (cripple, chill, bleeding).

Eles also have better combo fields. Combo fields are extremely powerful if used properly. Guardians have light fields and fire fields, which are ok, but eles get water fields, lightning fields and ice fields, which have much more powerful finishers.

It should be noted that the projectile shields don’t block/reflect the instakill attack.

It makes noise when you equip it.

Also, it should display notes, but it’s currently bugged and only does so some of the time.

Mounts wouldn’t add much to the game because the world is instanced.

kokiman.2364:

For the next thread

… please use the right subforum and add something constructive to your criticism.

There is. I’ve explained why 90% health damage mechanics would be better.

Seeing a thief active at deadeye made me realize…I gotta get me a thief!

Sylentir.8913:

Instant-death mechanics teach you quickly to both plan and react. There’s a pattern for a reason; follow it. You have the capability to learn, so get using it! Saying its cheap is like saying getting hit by a car in real life is cheap: why the hell are you still standing there, looking at the swiftly approaching vehicle?! Get out of the dang way way! Sure, sometimes you don’t see it at first, but that’s why you are supposed to look.

By your logic, there should be no mor car crashes because everyone can see all cars coming.

Lag and invalidating non-berserker gear are the primary reasons why 1-hit kill mechanics should be removed from the game yesterday.

Feralnex.4071:

Last night after 50 deaths I throw my keyboard on the ground, seriously, I was REALLY kitten ed of…

Now it all makes sense.

ANET wants people to buy the new GW2 keyboard!

Sylentir.8913:

At everyone saying one-shot mechanics are bad:

One-shot mechanics are bad IF AND ONLY IF they offer no counterplay. If you’re getting one-shotted with no means of preventing, avoiding, or negating it, then yes, that is bad. However, that’s not what this is. This is one-shot mechanics with very significant counterplay. You can avoid them.

They are bad because they:
a)Are unfair to those with slower connections/computers.
b)Invalidate all non-berserker gear.
c)Make fights depend on luck rather than skill.

A well designed fight would replace the 1-hit kill mechanics with 90% health damage mechanics. 1-shot kills are for bad designers.

Yes, I said it. Whomever designs 1-shot kills in MMO’s shouldn’t be working at a gaming company.

Agreed, seems a bit iffy. As for programable keys, unless you macro them in some way, what’s the point? You can program any key through the normal game interface.

And isn’t turning around while turning off the camera tracking (and then turning it on again) technically an exploit? Because it allows you to do things a normal player cannot.

Like I said, iffy. Shouldn’t have happened. Then again, the keyboard isn’t worth the money anyway, so I guess that compensates for it.

…please come up with something a bit more creative than 1-shot kill mechanics. Not only is it unfair to people with slower connections/computers, it also invalidates all non-berserker gear in the game. Losing roughly 90% of your health is enough incentive to avoid something, without instantly slapping a player in the face if they miss a dodge.

And for the love of leeroy, don’t add said mechanics to boss fights that last 15 minutes or more.

(Still find that funny: an achievement for beating a boss under 15 minutes? What genius thinks that bosses should last more than 10 minutes to begin with?)

Try the same armor, only with a combination of Illumination (yellow), Seafoam (light green) and Sky (light blue) dyes. It’ll look a lot more striking.

The main issue is that instead of the heal, Sigil of Battle can give you 9 stacks of might. That to me at least, is enough reason not to use it yet. Maybe if battle were nerfed…or if defense actually started to matter…

So what’s the point of anti-projectile skills when they fail in fights that actually matter (like Deadeye Dunwell)?

Also, is there a reason why projectiles with the same animation can have varying degrees of blockability? I though the idea was that you could recognize the effects based on their look?

At the moment, the only way I can tell if a projectile block will save me is after I’ve been hit by it…

colesy.8490:

In PvE you run berserker unless you can’t dodge, are too lazy to learn encounters and want a crutch instead.

Or maybe keep your teammates alive that aren’t as skilled? My main issue with berserker is that it only works if the rest of your team can handle themselves. Being able to take a few hits while your teammembers dusts themselves off seems useful to me when things go…less than perfect.

I’m pretty sure competent elementalists use full berserker in dungeons too, with lightning hammer.

Elementalists have the worst armor and health of all professions, so bringing a little defense makes sense for them. Seeing as how their weaponbuilds are a mix of all playstyles (including conditions and party healing), it makes sense to go with all stats gears. You literally make use of everything all the time. Due to their attunement swapping, they can make up for that by equipping boon duration runes and a Sigil of Battle, which results in them having same attack power but a lot more utility.

I’m not arguing about PvP or WvW since they’re not particularly my strong points, but even then, light armour classes have no problem using more berserker gear in guild groups since they’re going to be in the back line and not taking as many hits as the front.

The thing is that in many ways, you’re right. A lot of the game seems to be designed around ‘dodge or die’ mechanics, so there’s little point in bringing any defensive gear. Not all professions are as fortunate as the warrior though, and some do a lot better if they bring just a little bit extra defense. However, it doesn’t always automatically equal ‘best for any situation under any circumstance’ as you make it out to be.

milo.6942:

are they really?
cause i copy buildz from da series of tubes, but am completely against ridiculous gear grind

You’re coming at it the wrong way. Copying builds doesn’t mean you’re not creative. If you’re not creative however, you have to copy builds. Also, if you’re not creative, you cannot think of something that’s not available yet.

It’s more of a character profile sketch, really. What I meant to say is that those that enjoy farming also copy farming builds and don’t like having to actively adjust their playstyle during or even inbetween fights.

Dub.1273:

Dub.1273:

The GS literally offers NOTHING. Anyone who uses it in Dungeons or even assumes it’s a good choice for efficiently clearing dungeons is a bad player.

Fixed it. You can play how you want of course and aren’t a bad player. But in terms of not beeing a leech to your party you are.

I trust you’ll mail me the hundreds MBs of combat logs that prove your statement later this week then?

I knew I should have opted for people instead of children…want me to fix it?

Sampo.9678:

Well if you’re used to almost any other mmo..
Where you’d have to kill the same thing for a week to gain 1 level up.
Then killing champions in Orr all day is like nothing :p

Funny thing…when I read your comment it actually made sense to me why levelling up is so slow in other games. You’re not doing anything new, so you’re not learning very much, and thus it takes a very long time. It’s not a treadmill, it’s realism!

Chadramar.8156:

It’s also a shame that so many people playing this genre seem unable to imagine MMOs as anything but an endless, gear-obsessed grindfest instead of, say, a whole new world to become immersed in.

Keep in mind that it’s the same people that copy their builds from the internet too. They’re not known for their creativity or out-of-the-box thinking.

Noobkaka.5067:

I am done with with this thread.

And yet you’re coming back to reply after writing that. Clearly our words are affecting you in some way, or you wouldn’t keep replying. Thus you’ve actually proven my point that you should be careful what you say.

“You’re the weakest link, thank you for playing, bye-bye!”

Don’t you mean? ‘Please look and admire my toon’? :-)

No but seriously, looks pretty cool. Like how the shield matches the hammer, even though one’s a skill and the other an item.

Noobkaka.5067:

Oh my kittening god, holy kitten!
Are you seriously bringing kids who have suecided into this whole thread?
SERIOUSLY?
Jesus christ I am done with with this thread. You people NEED to stop takeing swear words so kitten seriously.
inb4 I receive another moderators infraction point for expressing my freedom of speeche! Yeeehaaaw!

You have my sympathy.

Tolmos.8395:

OOOOO You said a bad word! I’m telling the teacher on you!

Ahh, this is why I love GW2 forums. Gives me nostalgia of 1st-3rd grade.

You call what happened to you in january this year ‘nostalgia’ already? Kids…

smeen.4237:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Well, I’m not surprised. I understand most of the employees at ArenaNet are, in fact, human. As are most of the players, so certainly they are aiming their material at those facts.

Sneaky.

We need more Charr in ArenaNet.

That explains why there was such a big focus on Sylvari…because there’s likely some potplants at ArenaHQ. Somebody forgot to water them though…

My engineer (turret fan) bears the ’Toymaker’s Apprentice’ title. He may get Master Crafter if I get it though.

The main issue here is that you ‘think’ swear words don’t hurt. However, to some people they do. And while you may find them sad, or even think it’s funny that you can affect them as much by just using those words…

…how many children have commited suïcide because they’ve been verbally harassed for years on end by their peers?

Then again, you probably don’t consider this to be real. To you, they’re just candy and whomever hangs themselves because your words gave them the last push are just crybabies…

My wife’s Asura is called ‘Dakk the Good’. Which sounds normal, but actually refers to a ‘dakgoot’ (rainpipe) in Dutch.

Or her mesmer, called Kummannen Kikmie (come on and kick me).

Sai Ree.5960:

A ranger called Schrodinger, with his cat of course.

That one is actually quite brilliant…

We’ve got a Charr called Fierce Brosnan in guild.

Cool. :-)

Mungrul.9358:

Watch or read Fight Club.
Either is good, although even the author has admitted that the movie has a better ending.

Wiki suffices. Still, not a great man…probably only half of a man. :-)

Ameepa.6793:

your father smelt of elderberries!

You mean to say father melted due to exposure of elderberries? You’re not helping the ‘swearing people aren’t idiots’ cause. :-)

Mungrul.9358:

I’m taking it you don’t know what that’s from then?

No, I do not know where it’s from. Also, I didn’t meant in this particular case. I just meant that I don’t see the quote as a reason to call the man great: instead I’d find him pitiful.

ellesee.8297:

not a bug. just another instance of pve projectile reflection being incredibly dumb.

The problem with those projectiles is that even if they look 100% the same, it’s still a guess if this particular instant-kill projectile will kill you or be reflected….

Noobkaka.5067:

In the end it’s his choice to listen to me or not, no matter how many fine words I put into my sentence(s) and argument and opinion.
Why put effort in it when I can clearly express myself in a much shorter amount of time.

So it wouldn’t matter to you wheter I asked you to stop playing loud music because my grandmother gets a headache, or if I asked you to stop because you’re a moron?

Noobkaka.5067:

I agree and disagree. Sometimes it’s just simpler and easier to express yourself with swear words, a lot of people (especially us younger people) don’t want to spend minutes argueing with a person that we dislike and disagree with and that’s when ending a conversation with a couple of swear wordy sentences is easiest and fastest.

The problem is that most ‘young people’ as you call them, link winning an argument to ‘whomever shouts the most profane words at the highest volume’, while it should be about the best arguments. I appreciate you taking the time to adress me as you did just now, and those reading this can make up their own mind as to whose side they’re on.

And yes, I do believe he’s a crybaby. It’s just words please don’t take it so kitten seriously and especially not in a game!

Yet if you want him to listen to you, antagonizing him will be counterproductive. I think he’d be more likely to listen to your (likely well meant) advice without that last sentence.

Then again, I’m also at fault for doing the exact same thing to you. For which I apologize.

It’s a little thing maybe, but I wanted to compliment ArenaNet on a small but brilliant design decision.

The Speedy Sprinter achievement.

Giving the nr. 3 one point, the nr. 2 two points nad the nr. 1 three points for the achievement is brilliant. It’ll reward skilled players appropriately while those less skilled can still progress towards it (even if it is a little slower). To me this is an example of great game design, and as such I wanted to compliment those behind on their excellent idea. Feel free to apply this concept to other things as well.

My characters display titles that fit them. My main character is from Canthan descent, and bears ‘Closer to the Stars’. It’s not for vanity or bragging. Then again, few titles are imho and if they were, I wouldn’t wear them for that reason alone.

Mungrul.9358:

To quote the great Tyler Durden:
“You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake”.

That doesn’t sound like a great man, but rather a bitter and cynnical one.

Noobkaka.5067:

You crying over it is a waste of time and you should just accept it and move on with your life.

Was that sentence really neccesary? Was the only way for you to convince the OP that he shouldn’t be troubled by insinuating that he’s a crybaby?

It’s true then, that swear words are the tools of the weak and feebleminded.