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Yup, bugs are simply not a priority. They rush new content and never look back. Try taking a look at they guy tracking living story bugs in bugs forum. It’s ridiculous.

You won’t get a “good FPS”, that’s for sure. It might just be bearable in PvE, but don’t expect more than 30 fps on lowest graphics when nothing is happening.

Thanks a lot, this was an interesting read

And my keyboard!

BrunoBRS.5178:

seriously, you guys are making a storm out of nothing. remind me to pull a similar stunt in a couple months just to see the living world forum burst in random theories.

Then please do it! It’s so much fun

If it is worth anything to you guy you can actually see the shining blades fighting white mantle in Brisban.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Finally-got-Light-Up-The-Darkness/first#post2605580

I did it, as well as five gambits.

Really Anet? Forum blocks as|5 ? Getting real tired of your poop.

I seriously have no clue how this thread has not received any kind of response yet…

Wasn’t that possible before?

I just used shortbow and signet of stone + protect me + quickening zephyr and Rampage as One for Elite.

While frustrating it feels kind of good, doesn’t it? You now have something to work towards If you don’t make it this time, you might do so next year.

“Riot”

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https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Finally-got-Light-Up-The-Darkness/first#post2605580

Yes it is possible. I got it.

I wouldn’t normally do this kind of post, but for once I feel the forum is flooded with hate when a pat on the shoulder should be in order. Queen’s Jubilee is one of the best patches to hit this game in my opinion. Why? Diversity.

- Content for the casual players: The story before entering pavilion, balloon hunting and even Torch runs shouldn’t be too hard for most people.
- Content for the farmers: Even after the champion fix, Pavilion is still the most profitable place to farm in game. While the arena makes little sense, it is great that you have lured people out of CoF to at least try farming in a different spot, and new items to farm for mixes it up a bit.
- Content for people who want to test their skills ( / Content for the hardcores). The Gauntlet, even with the bugs is some of the most creative duels you have added to the game yet, and at a fitting level of difficulty -> Most players can kill the first 2 encounters and only few people can kill the last. You succesfully made a challenge for everyone to see how good they are.

And then there’s the added things like new skins, wallet, mini-game rotation. It’s great.

Of course there’s bugs, a point where you’re not standing strong in anyones book, but for what it is worth. Thanks for the content.

Araziel.7201:

Yeah, wouldn’t it be nice if the devs added a t6 farm for each of the upcoming events to bring some of the prices down? Like say the next one was blood.

Southsun should ring a bell…

Fungalfoot.7213:

Most of the whining is coming from players who made thousands of gold playing the trading post and are now concerned that other players will finally catch up. They will mewl on about the health of the economy all day long but the truth is that they just want to feel special sitting on the pile of gold they’ve amassed.

And where the heck did you learn where this “whining” comes from? What makes you qualified to make that judgement? I certainly have no legendary, I don’t like any of them, and half my server already have Twilight (Yes, figuratively speaking). kitten right I feel special on my pile of 8 gold.

Astralporing.1957:

You don’t get “heaps of gold” from vendoring stuff, nor do you get that much directly from drops. Most of it is gained from selling things on TP – which means it is being shuffled around.

Yes.. Yes… The 15% listing fee is a lie. Where did gold to put up items come from?

You’re not the only one getting heaps of gold from these new events; everyone else is too.
…that Legendary you so badly want becomes significantly more expensive; as does everything else.

This is seriously the best that has been said in the entire thread. It’s not hard to understand. Oh, you, mr casual is so happy you now get 2 gold for the hour that you are online. Guess what. That means every farmer in the game is getting 10 gold on the same day. Does this get you closer or further from obtaining that legendary. That one Dusk that was listed at 300g, who will get it first you think? The next one listed at 350, will it be you? Probably not. Maybe you will get yours for 800g, but hey you got more gold. Sweet.

WolftheAngel.4089

As a casual player, I’m actually glad that I’m now making a decent amount of coin and slowly moving towards that legendary weapon.

Somehow people are so shortsighted that they only look at what THEY earn, like this poor guy. And as long as it’s more than they used to, they are happy. Please look a bit further and realize you are in fact not becoming rich. The gold lies.

But in the end any attempt to reason does not matter. The mere fact that this last quote takes more upvotes than anything in a thread like this simply means that a debate was not wanted, merely a raking down on a part of the community, who apparently all are trolls (I’m guessing we don’t get a say):

Neural.1824:

The people calling for the lowering of rewards for effort in the already dismal loot system are generally just trolls or individuals who got their Legendary back when it was easy to do so, and are afraid they’ll lose their special status. So they intentionally push Anet to make it stupid-hard to get anywhere. Just ignore them.

…I should probably make a new thread: Stop asking us to stop asking for less rewards. Eh?

OP:
A: Stop the thread here and have it locked
or
B: Bring the sources of those wonderful numbers you magically have available for your eyes only.

Any discussion without those is meaningless. Stop it.

Sugoi Travis.2651:

Then again, these are just personal opinions. However I would never say that Queen’s Gauntlet was too difficult. It was a much-needed challenge IMO. I don’t usually get a rush of pleasure when I destroy pixels, but I honestly felt like I accomplished something after killing Liadri.

Exactly! This is what is so great – We aren’t even neccesarily meant to complete the Gauntlet. Completing it means you are one of the best players to work around odd game mechanics and for (danger of sounding arrogant) less skilled people this should be something to strive for, rather than crying “impossible” or “nerf!”. If you can’t beat it, try figuring out why. Change your build. Change your skills. Try again. Once you beat it you will feel awesome.

Sugoi Travis.2651:

The only encounters where luck plays a factor is Kieldra and Liadri. The tornadoes are completely random (afaik) and you just have to hope that they don’t come storming down your way while you burst (key word is burst) down Kieldra asap. Liadri is just ridiculously difficult and you’re going to have to eat dirt a lot before you get the hang of it.

While I can relate somewhat, you can still dodge between the tornadoes and stability negates them entirely.
Liadri is difficult but by no means random. In fact everything is fixed – The AoE’s are the same every time, so are the pools on the ground (with the exception of the 6 arenas not being entirely even). The pulls can seem a bit random, but you can nearly always rally on them.

LordByron.8369:

what i hate of queen’s gauntlet:

TIMER

Always zerker stuff true?
anything but zerker sucks……..

Will we someday see something that isn t a dps check?

when i saw timer i just completed the tier and quit this stuff……

Most of the encounters does not need berserker gear. DPS is also not equal to berserker gear. If you’re however bad at keeping the damage you have up and get downed during the fights, knocked away by tornados, let Chomper eat meat etc etc, (aka ignoring mechanics), don’t expect to get far.

Korval.3751:

The request was directed to Arenanet. You can all stop now. No really. You shouldn’t waste your time any more.

In that case you need to send a ticket and we can close the thread.

Araziel.7201:

Dmzsfx.8103:

There are people asking for less o.0?!
Everyone I’ve talked to/read has asked for more (i.e. why are there no 2g or 2.5g paths?)

Just a few on the forums. Same guys that didn’t want an LFG tool in game. Another one that had the bright idea of having fixed prices on the TP. You get the idea of what kind of people these are. Just guys that troll the forums more than play the game.

That’s some cute generalizations, but no, I’m somewhat only on the nerf side when it comes to certain sources of income, because I’m looking a bit further than to the tip of my nose – If you get what you want and we buff the ability to farm up a notch, this will happen:

Those who regularly farm will be even richer from farming. Consequently they will have more money to pay for items.
^You would think this as a good thing because hey you can get your legendary or whatever much faster.
What happens now though? The other farmers have more gold as well and yay they can afford that 600g precursor too. Consequence: The limited availablity means the bids get higher and higher until reaching a new plateau where price compared to the gold people farm is hard to get again. Once again you can’t get your legendary and cry for either more gold in the game or more precursor drops.

Edit: Also note that some people do not play this game to farm. If you’re able to get 50g/hour farming and they get 2g/hour for playing varied content, do you think they will be able to ever afford anything in this game? You will effectively push out anyone who doesn’t like grind because you wanted your rewards.

Let’s say they give in and say hey, let there be more precursors. While I’m not sure what happens to prices here, you will get your super awesome flashy ugly Twilight. That’s great for you. Now look around. So. Many. Twilights. Not very legendary, is it?

I’m pretty sure no one is crying for less rewards. What we do ask is that everything is leveled out. In other terms you should get no more reward from CoF path 1 than you get from doing anything else (of the same difficulty).

In current meta it means that since there is no risk and no challenge involved in running in a zerg in pavilion, it should not be the most efficient way of generating income for the player.

Whether that means bumping other content up to match Pavilion, or nerfing Pavilion, I couldn’t really care less. But the more supply you get from farming, the less people are willing to pay for it. Remember that when you want all your farming intact.

I think OP is reffering to the Champion fix in the Pavilion. I at least asked for a nerf. And it was needed. Economy was breaking.

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24351 – This should show what I’m reffering to. When prices of certain items halves in a few days something that’s not supposed to happen is going on.

I’m thinking you will die. Rampager’s gear is Power, Precision and Condition damage. Remember you don’t get to circle her all the time for the achievement. Sometimes you need to get a bit in harms way. I will not claim it’s impossible, but maybe find a less aggressive build.

Ranger, Shortbow, 30/30/10/0/0 – Troll Unguent, Signet of the Hunt, Quickening Zephyr, Signet of Stone, Rampage as One. All zerker.

“Light Up The Darkness” – Shortbow, 30/0/30/10/0 – Troll Unguent, Signet of the Hunt, Signet of Nature’s Renewal, Signet of Stone, Rampage as One. Mostly zerker with some extra toughness added in.

Didn’t know torch could kill the rifts. Axe/torch is definitely better than what I ran with (Sword/Warhorn) – If I got forced to change weapon I would lose DPS for a while – Sword did have a few extra dodges but it was not really needed.

You can use foods, nonfoods and gemstore boosters.

Swilt.8415:

I don’t like this fight. Point form cos lazy…

• I don’t live in America so I don’t have the same ping you guys do.
  I know that’s not much of a point – cos ‘Murica and tough kittens. (Maybe don’t sell your kitten here if it renders it unplayable).

There’s a data center in both America and Europe. If you’re from Asia I’m guessing China will have a data center as well soon.

Swilt.8415:

• The fight is in a really large area with a lot of graphical processing going on – slows things down.

Turn your graphics down for the particular encounter if you are having problems. Lowering resolution helps as well

Swilt.8415:

• An acceptably difficult fight isn’t determined by your or my own skill level. It’s determined by the average or median skill level.

I really hope you are not serious. If difficulty is determined by average skill level you have this scenario:
- Some players will not be able to complete any acceptably difficult fights.
- Some players will find the challenge properly challenging.
- And then you have left all your most dedicated players who are getting skilled at this game. There’s no challenge for them.

They made it exactly right. The gauntlet started off easy and you are meant to see how far you can get. Not everyone is supposed to be able to complete this fight. It’s a challenge you can keep trying, maybe even next year to see if you then have the skills.

Swilt.8415:

• Zerkers are sad, sad people with no soul; only dull mechanical minds. Don’t make the rest of us join them.

You can kill her without berserker gear. If you pick additional light thingies up and throw at her they make her take more damage….

…Dude…

Troll Unguent, Signet of the Wild, Signet of Stone and Rampage as One was my choice too. Went with condition removal signet though.

Setun.4368:

The part about the additional crystals you toss at her making her more vulnerable is very good info to know! I will definitely give this a try once I get the chance!

I almost decided not to attempt the achievement because I would never make it in time. The first time I beat her the announcer was doing the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 count and I only made it with 3 seconds remaining. This was running all berserker gear and 30/30/10/0/0 traits.

With the achievement I ran 30/0/30/10/0, still with berserker gear, except my rings (Power, Toughness, Critical damage). – Basically I traded around 20% critical chance for ~ 500 toughness. Even so, doing the achievement I finished faster than on a regular attempt. Point is that while picking up the additional 5 thingies is incredibly difficult, the fight is actually faster. The vulnerability stays on for long, maybe a little less than a minute and it stacks. If I had to guess, I would tip the vulnerability to increase your damage ~10-15% per stack.

The difficult part is picking up/throwing the orbs at her while staying alive. I found that signet of stone and the condition removal signet helped a lot here.

One more thing, that I forgot in my original post:

8: Buffs! Recommendations:
– Food: Omnomberry Ghosts for the 66% chance of stealing life. You can steal HP from illusions too in the beginning if you want. Don’t waste too much effort on it though.
- Nonfoods: I used Sharpening Stones for a bit of extra power. Not essential though, but I guess it is useful if you have trouble making it within the time limit.
- Gemstore boosters: While I didn’t get much out of what I had, these boosters can be somewhat helpful (Tested, they are not removed upon entering arena) : Armor Booster (-5% damage) Damage Booster ( + 5% damage), Rejuvenation Booster (Around 100hp/second) and Speed Booster if you don’t choose Signet of the Hunt (+15% movement speed).

If you just killed Laidra and are thinking WTF, this is not possible, and definitely not within the time frame!.. Well. It’s the hardest achievement I’ve done to this date, but it is possible.

I’d like to share a few tips for it that I think many people don’t realize. At this point I assume you have already beaten her.

1: Berserker gear is a no-go! I did every fight up to this with berserker and it was just fine. But trust me, since you can’t just circle here when chasing pools on the ground, you WILL eat some damage. I’m not going to say impossible, but very close to it. Get some healing power and toughness. I did it in all berserker except my rings + traits in toughness

2: But there’s no way we can make it in time, it was hard enough the first time. Not true. What you do not realize is that throwing additional thingies at her makes her vulnerable by a significant amount meaning you hit harder. This makes up for the lost time and is also why berserker gear isn’t needed.

3: Memorize the pools on the ground and remember which arena you use. The pools are not random and spawn same place every time. You want to make effective use of them.

4: Don’t be greedy! If you get really low, leave that pool alone and start circling until you have some HP again. You have a little spare time.

5: Don’t even try doing a stunt to get 2 illusions into a pool. You won’t have time to pick up the remains of both.

6: While pets are near useless in this fight do bring wolf and dog. If you get in trouble their ability will buy you a few seconds to run from Liadra. (Fear and Immobilize). Note that the illusions can be feared as well.

7: Use the rifts to rally. You might want to kill off the first 2 before you get to the part where Liadra chases you, but after that leave them alone. You can use Rampage as One to avoid the first pull, but after that, accept you will get pulled and that you might go down. Rally and get on the horse again. If you are lucky you can sometimes range the rifts but don’t count on this.

8: Buffs! Recommendations:
– Food: Omnomberry Ghosts for the 66% chance of stealing life. You can steal HP from illusions too in the beginning if you want. Don’t waste too much effort on it though.
- Nonfoods: I used Sharpening Stones for a bit of extra power. Not essential though, but I guess it is useful if you have trouble making it within the time limit.
- Gemstore boosters: While I didn’t get much out of what I had, these boosters can be somewhat helpful (Tested, they are not removed upon entering arena) : Armor Booster (-5% damage) Damage Booster ( + 5% damage), Rejuvenation Booster (Around 100hp/second) and Speed Booster if you don’t choose Signet of the Hunt (+15% movement speed).

Note: People normally use endurance regeneration food, but remember that just 5 trait points = 50% regeneration for us.
Good luck!

Edit: I seem to get a few requests on my setup; I run shortbow (the extra dodge on #3 is amazing for this fight, + you can keep Laidra somewhat away with the cripple and daze (#4, #5). Offhand is sword+warhorn, but isn’t really utilized – Only for meleeing rifts in the beginning. On a few times sword have saved me using #3 as dodge though, but you also waste 9 seconds until you can get back on the shortbow. I run Scholar runes on my gear, but I would easily have picked something different for the fight – At nearly no point am I over 90% HP, which is the idea with those runes.

If you want to do it in cleric gear you just have to throw a few extra orbs at her.

The obstructed bug needs to go indeed. Seriously. I have to switch weapons everytime one is up

I can tell you for a fact that this fight is easier not being berserker. You will realize it when you try for the bonus achievement.

And nearly one year after release we’re still missing hundreds of PvP reward chests.

Having played around 1500 hours, completely concur with OP. In this patch, Liadra is the one. There is no way to micro pet to avoid getting one-shot; Even if you put effort into it it will still happen and it takes so much from the ranger that it is simply not worth it.

Don’t it is a great guide. I’m just lacking the utility of an engi

Amun Ra.6435:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Cannot do it on engi. So many tries ;(

Detailed guide for Engi.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1jwowd/i_just_beat_liadri_on_hard_mode_light_up_the/

Okay, so it makes sense that engineers actually can keep DPS up while running from Laidri, but what on earth does other professions do here?

I do think it is borderline unreasonable, but I will eat my words if I see some videoes of it. Those of you who managed to do it, please do upload your videoes! Preferably ranger ones

Did you pick the earthquake gambit?

Shakki.3219:

Treeline.3865:

Shakki.3219:

I am highly disappointed in the Gauntlet, no not for me since i got all classes to do it, but for players who have actually only one class…. they will never get all achievements, because its impoissible to do so, without spending gold for extra sigils runes or w/e.

What if these players don’t have it? I just think it’s a very bad move for these.

I did all achievements except one (Still havent beaten Liadra with 8 throws) with only my ranger, and only in zerker gear. Sorry for sounding arrogant, but just because you can’t do it, doesn’t mean it’s impossible. I can’t do that last achievement either. Impossible? I don’t think so.

And now you read again, what i wrote okay?

I am not talking about me, i’m talking about it in general what i am reading in overflows all day long.

So you are reading from people that they feel like they can’t kill the bosses without buying new gear? You then take it as fact that they are all skilled enough to kill them but just don’t have the gear for it? I however just gave an example of doing it all with 1 class on 1 set of gear. I did it. Others can too then, my gear was definitely not the best for all fights. (Again, I dont mean to sound oh so pro, I hate those people q: )

Gasoline.2570:

I was thinking, wouldn’t the timer run out if you actually got to almost killing her, considering how long it takes just to throw those lights.

That’s what I’m thinking. I wear all berserker (and all the ascended gear) – And while I’m at the disadvantage of basically not having my pet for the fight, I did the normal fight with 4 seconds remaining. Of course it doesnt take THAT long just to throw the lights, but you have to move incredibly well when half of the arena is oneshot every 5th second, and you need to lure the illusions into wells 5 times.

Fancia.3746:

Happened to have done Deadeye on your ranger that could give a tip on how to RELIABLY not have the pet trigger the mines? I’ve done him, but want to do with the 5 gambits, which kindof seems to requires knowledge of that

I chose him for the gambit thing as well. In experience you WILL go down in this fight. My fight went something like this when I did it right.

Choice of DPS at all times: Shortbow, Rampage as one from beginning. Keep DPS up, don’t move anywhere.
At first one-shot use #3 on shortbow to dodge.
He now teleports somewhere behind you. Stay. (Sometimes he tp’s to far corner, if that happens you’re screwed – You can run for the middle, but you will most probably lose your pet when sending it after him. If your pet is dead at this point, switch to wolf. (Never start with wolf, but do have it)
He will one-shot again, use signet of stone (traited for player invulnerability)
He will one-shot again or sometimes just keep shooting, and you have trouble with hp. He’s a little less than 50%. Use #3 again.
If he pulls off another one-shot, pop “Protect Me” – After this you are very soon downed, but the fight is not over. Get your pet to res you as soon as you can. If you still have the wolf up, fear Deadeye first. (you can do this while downed) If he tries to one-shot you, use the downed #2 to interrupt. Try and get up now. If you make it this far he’s almost dead and you can finish him off.

By now a lot of people probably got around to kill Laidra, do gambit achievements etc.
But did anyone try this achievement? Did you succeed? Share please! Searched the internet, youtube, forum, but seems people are having a hard enough time just beating her.

And if Anet reads this. Did any of you actually do this and on every class?

The guy has a pull.

Prenerf your blast was killing the economy and devaluing everything. Now it is balanced and there’s still decent loot. If you didn’t expect a nerf you’re not very bright, sorry. Everyone knew it was incoming.

Shakki.3219:

I am highly disappointed in the Gauntlet, no not for me since i got all classes to do it, but for players who have actually only one class…. they will never get all achievements, because its impoissible to do so, without spending gold for extra sigils runes or w/e.

What if these players don’t have it? I just think it’s a very bad move for these.

I did all achievements except one (Still havent beaten Liadra with 8 throws) with only my ranger, and only in zerker gear. Sorry for sounding arrogant, but just because you can’t do it, doesn’t mean it’s impossible. I can’t do that last achievement either. Impossible? I don’t think so.

Zenith.7301:

From the encounter design it’s obvious with all the lethal one shot aoe fields that I’m going to have to do everything on my ranger with the pet dead most of the time.

It’s not amusing when your class mechanic is punished by the encounter design so consistently.

Fellow ranger here with all Gauntlet achievements except one. Agree that in some fights (Especially Liadra fight) that pet is useless, but in others it’s the best. It all seems doable though.

A big thank-you from me to Anet for the nerf.

I did it on a ranger. But yes, it’s annoying. Use rampage as one to counter the rifts and have plenty of dodegs ready.

The title is not misleading. If you get 3 gold in an hour + mats only your zerg is too small.