Guild Wars 2

Hi guys. Just wanted to say I love the discussion (Math is so much fun!), but it is getting a bit off topic.

I think that “On each attempt there is an unkown probability of rolling Fractal X, thus whether it is possible to get the achievement for X depends on luck” will suffice. In any event, even if that probability was 99.9% to roll the desired Fractal, there is still luck involved, which is what I absolutely do not like, since it is taken out of my hands.

But amazing discussion :>

Just rolling in to say I hate Skyhammer.

I mean sure, you get some of the way with skills; Position yourself correctly, get stability, get some knockbacks, pulls, fears. Try dodging any CC skills. From there? Utter kitten. You can’t have any decent duel on the map. I play PvP to duel people, show that I’m skilled enough to take someone down and outsmart other players. Sure, this involves CC. But CC being the deciding factor in most battles. No thanks please. Especially not without the ability to save builds.

Becka Williams.4978:

The content added in the fractured living story update STILL exists. You guys are merely complaining that you can’t get achievement points. Why does the content not count unless you’re getting achievement points?

Because that was not our goal or what we spent our time for. I consider achievements content too.

To illustrate it, do you remember the Giant Slayer achievement? Without that achievement, no one would even consider that Giants as a category of monsters. Without them, guides wouldn’t have been made, and people wouldn’t have made stragedies to get the ‘mission’ of killing 1.000 Giants done. No one would ever have killed even half that amount. In other words it would just have been a random mob. Now it’s more of a mission you can take on.

Ayrilana.1396:

Treeline.3865:

In short, people who were unable to complete previous living story achievements were (mostly) due to lack of skill, time or understanding. I feel justified in saying that we are different in that we lost achievements due to lack of… Luck! I didn’t come to play Casino Online. I came here because I thought my skill and time spent on the game would decide what was possible for me to do. The least I expected was luck to be the deciding factor when it came to achievements.

There was more than enough time to get all of the achievements for the meta. Someone did the math in one of these threads that showed the probability of getting a certain fractal during a run and the probability of not getting within a certain number of runs. The thing is that if you played it every night, you had a low probability of not having encountered every fractal.

Yep, if you did a bunch of Fractals every day, assuming you had all the time needed every day, you have a good chance. But even so there’s that small chance that you won’t get the Fractal you need. And that’s not OK. People should be rewarded for the time they spend and the skill they have. Not dumb luck. This isn’t a slot machine.

Ayrilana.1396:

There were other measures that could have been done to hedge from not getting the path you needed right away. There were groups forming with people farming specific fractals. If they did not get the one they needed, they restarted and tried again.

That’s not really an option, unless you’re assuming people couldn’t get the right first tier fractal… If you were missing the first or second tier fractal, sure, restart until you get it. When missing the third or a boss fractal, restarting is just about pointless as you save 30 minutes to miss out on all end rewards. 30 minutes would not even get you to the third fractal again. I see your point, but restarting with 30 minutes left on a fractal run is just pointless.

Ayrilana.1396:

I also disagree that luck should be any different than lack of skill, time, and/or understanding. The thing is that eventually you’re going to miss an achievement due to one reason or another. Do you do every daily and monthly achievement? Do you do all of the infinite meta achievements until they give out no more AP? If not, then I don’t see where the argument is as you’re not missing out on anything.

That’s once again an assumption you have no base to make. How do you know how much time people invest in the game? How do you KNOW people will miss an achievement? Unless you show me anything that shows otherwise, the only person you can speak for is yourself. Please don’t make assumptions on what other people will or won’t do.

Now if you read my original post you would already know that I didn’t care about dailies and the like. What I cared about was the living story achievements, all the temporary ones. And yes, within that scope I did every repeatable achievement until they maxed out on AP. So my argument stays the same; There were no reason to take it out after only 14 days, especially not given they are based on RNG. Given that the content did not interfere with the current patches there were no reason to take it out. Why not let people continue to play for it?

Happy new year.

Ayrilana.1396:

Treeline.3865:

You say that like it is a fact. Yet for over a year, many players have done every achievement.

And many players were able to finish Fractured. Some players were not able to finish Fractured just as some players were not able to finish other living stories.

[…]

The intent of this post was to refute the argument that because some players weren’t able to complete the Fractured living story that they are somehow different than others who were unable to complete previous living stories.

In short, people who were unable to complete previous living story achievements were (mostly) due to lack of skill, time or understanding. I feel justified in saying that we are different in that we lost achievements due to lack of… Luck! I didn’t come to play Casino Online. I came here because I thought my skill and time spent on the game would decide what was possible for me to do. The least I expected was luck to be the deciding factor when it came to achievements.

Smirk.6702:

Think of it maybe as liberation. You were going to miss one eventually.

You say that like it is a fact. Yet for over a year, many players have done every achievement.

Cassio.9507:

I don’t mind but I still don’t understand why we’ll have more than one more month to complete Nightmare Ends and Winter’s Day when Fractured was removed after only 14days. Many of the Fractured achievements are highly based on RNG depending on what fractals you get later on. It would’ve been nice to keep at it over the weekends. Also as a motivator to get guildies to tag along.

This. It makes 0 sense. They said themeselves there would be no more patches this year, so I don’t get why they wouldn’t leave Fractured around for a little longer, giving the players something to do in the Holidays.

Vissarion.6509:

The achievements for fractured are still in.

Check the achievement tab for Fractals and you will see them.

Those are not the achievements we’re talking about. There were temporary as well as permanent ones.

900 is definitely very short, but I will really take any buff. I have stayed on Shortbow since it was what I started with, but that’s the only reason I have left to not use Longbow.

Ayrilana.1396:

Still doesn’t change what I saw. All of those points you made in the OP were used to argue for the Fractured living story to be brought back. The fact that this thread is now in the living story general subforum is evidence that it did not belong in the Wintersday subforum.

Since you brought up the paper analogy, the conclusion summaries and recaps the main argument. Your conclusion, which was in bold, was about bringing the fractured living story back. Nowhere at the end of your post did you mention including a date range or timer.

The entire point, which you somehow keep missing, is the short section in bold, and had more to it than bringing the Fractured! release back.
In the end, if you can not see that, then I’m simply sorry I could not phrase it better, which is where I will stop arguing over semantics.

The Living World subforum is actually a nice switch, I did not consider that. And you’re welcome to interpret that however you like. My logic says that it was moved to Living World because it applies to more than Fractured! or Wintersday. If it had only been seen as a Fractured! thing, it would probably have been deleted or moved to suggestions as you said.

Have a nice holiday.

Ayrilana.1396:

It’s not my place which is true however it doesn’t change the fact you’re posting about bringing back a previous living story within a subforum for the current one. You only briefly mentioned the living story dates where 98% of your post was about bringing fractured living story achievements back. Adding one little sentence does not make it relevant to the subforum.

Perhaps if your post was primarily about living story updates, and you used fractured living story as a short example, then yes I could see a relevance but it would be moved to the suggestions forum.

Sounds like handing in a paper. What you wanted to say might have taken 5 lines, but since it had to be 3 pages+ you added a few pages of filler.

Seriously though, let’s take a look at how the original post is built up, since you seem to care a great deal about it.

-> Short intro about myself vs the game up until Fractured!.
-> Personal concrete problem & Cause. (Fractured is gone, lack of info and/or misunderstanding)
-> Effect & Result (TL;DR, I got sad)
-> Solution & Prevention

As you can see, the problem is encountered in the Fractured! patch. The cause, effect, result and prevention however all applies to Wintersday and all future temporary releases.

I hope that clarifies it for you.

VaaCrow.3076:

Got all achievements in less that the fortnight, Didn’t even do all that many fractals just ran them with guildies. You had a fortnight to do them, not Anets fault you didn’t take the opportunity to do it whilest they were around. The content was aptly named “fortnight” that might have been just a little clue as to how long the content would be around.

If you read thoroughly I have answered all your statements, but hey, I will go over it again, briefly.

Fortnight? Boss Week.
Do them while they were around? Some people did more than one set a day without getting all Fractals.
Not Anet’s fault I didn’t do them? No. As I said, the misunderstanding may be my fault, but it sure was not very visible either that they would go away when they did.

Ayrilana.1396:

No. This thread is about making the fractured living story achievements come back. The bit about how long living stories last was just added in an attempt to make it relevant to this living story which unfortunately did not work as the overall intent of the post was about bring back the fractured living story achievements. Just look at the title you gave the thread.

How would I even argue against that? I made point A, B and C, but because A lead to B and C, A must be everything I care about. What kind of argument is that?

Sure! I want Fractured! back. That does not mean that I want it to happen again the next time, and the next after that, hence my suggestions.

My title is due to the 45 character limit, but hey, if you give me a way to circumvent the 45 character limit to write “Please give back Fractured, 14 days was not enough, and announce end dates of temporary content”, then I will do it.

Honestly? It is not your place to decide what peoples intents are. I did not add in the suggestions for kicks and fun.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

If you knew Anet forum mods would delete this thread, why post it in the first place? That’s an infraction waiting to happen.

Don’t put words onto me. I did not state that I believed they would take it down. I only stated that if that’s what they wanted to do, obviously they would do it.

Ayrilana.1396:

Treeline.3865:

Ayrilana.1396:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/rules

Do not cross post. Post your message once in the appropriate sub-forum and nowhere else; otherwise it will be locked or removed without warning.

The subforum does no longer exist.

It does, it’s in the archive and already had an identical thread about this. Asking for the Fractured living story to come back in the Wintersday forum is not the correct way to approach this. A more suitable place would be the suggestions subforum.

This tread is no different than if I were to create one about how Evon should have won so we could get the Abaddon fractal. It just does not belong in this subforum.

I justify the thread by the fact that it happens every single patch. The relevant subforum gets a bunch of “When does it end?” threads, and no one really knows anything. As I said and linked, Wintersday was not an exception, but luckily got an actual answer. But don’t worry, Anet will delete this thread if that’s what they think should be done.

Ayrilana.1396:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/rules

Do not cross post. Post your message once in the appropriate sub-forum and nowhere else; otherwise it will be locked or removed without warning.

The subforum does no longer exist.

Ayrilana.1396:

This thread is essentially the same as the other one in the Fractured subforum. Your purpose in this thread, which you bolded, is to bring back the Fractured living story in some matter. This is beyond the scope of the Wintersday subforum.

It is the same, and it is meant to be the same
Wintersday is no exception to the problem, but at least there are not many threads, since this patch got an official answer. Fractured! subforum was not as lucky. And to be honest, it should not even be on the forum. It should be in the game.

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Ardenwolfe.8590:

You didn’t offend me. Getting offended on a discussion board is pointless. But, I do hope you know I posted what I did to make you realize how silly, if not obsessive compulsive, you’re being. Again, it’s just a video game.

Please come back to Earth.

While I love me some Guild Wars too, missing an achievement or some content in something that probably won’t, or shouldn’t, be a blip in your life in say another ten years, should put it into perspective.

Enjoy the game. Enjoy your life. And don’t sweat the little things. Life is way too short to put such priorities into something that should be no more than light entertainment.

Happy Holidays.

My wrong on jumping to that conclusion.

But honestly, it is all a matter of what you care about. You may not care about achievements. You may not even care much for the game. But whatever you do care about “back on Earth”, wouldn’t you go as “far” as to create a topic about it, if something bothered you? While it won’t be a “blip” in my life in 10 years, if it could improve my experience with the game for however long I will play it, then I will happily spend an hour on the Forum, trying to do that. Assuming just 2 hours of play every day (~2½ day a month), 1 hour on the Forum is not much to pay, if that could result in me being happy with the game for longer.

Happy holidays to you as well.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

No one cares that you ‘did it all’ in a video game . . . except you.

And oddly enough that’s all I need to keep going or stop playing.
You don’t need to take me off any pedistal. I’m right here on the ground with you, and I’m not trying to brag.
As for overreacting? No. I’m not overreacting. There is no Caps Lock, no spamming, no multiple postings etc. What you probably meant in your attempt to rake me down from somewhere that I’m not, was that I care too much. And yes sir, I do. I care so much for the game that I spent over 2.800 hours on the game. If that offends you, then I am very sorry.

Obviously it is not going to kill anyone. No game will kill anyone. But everyone has preferences, something they look to achieve in games. That is how many people chose their games. Some people wants to be on the top of a leaderboard. Some people want to reach level 80. Some wants their server to be the top of WvW.

For me? I want a game where I can say “I did it all”. I might not be the best player or the one with most achievement points. I’m a completionist. I want to have done it all, given that I have the skill to do so.

So yes. It is just a game. And I can always try finding another game where I can “get it all done”. But for now, I really care about this game. But what keeps me going is the sense of having done everything. I love logging in every patch to get it all done, so I can go back to saying “Still did it all. Throw more at me!”. For now I have no goal. Whether I’m missing 1 or 50 achievements does not matter to me. So I hope for this to go through, and that Anet will give a clearer indication in the future as to how long we have to do stuff, as long as they keep insisting on temporary content.

Becka Williams.4978:

All the content introduced in fractal fortnight is STILL in the game. All you’re complaining about is 5 or 10 ap points. Let it go, allright?

I’m not complaining about 5 or 10 achievement points, and if you had read the actual post, you would have seen why as well, but hey, let me explain again.

It’s not about achievement points for me. I could not care less about them. I have 12.600 something, I’m not on the leaderboards and I don’t really do dailies unless they drop into my lap. But for players who are competing on the leaderboards, sure! 5-10 achievement points could mean the difference between being number 1 or 2. But not because of their skill, because of RNG this time. That is one complaint. RNG on achievement points are not OK.

What I am complaining about is that for the first time they have made achievements that were not possible to obtain given a reasonable amount of playtime. So far, every update, every single patch with every single achievement has been obtainable. Some has been difficult, some tricky, boring, grindy, you get the idea. But they could all be obtained with reasonable play.

TL;DR just for you. The achievements was RNG and could not be done with reasonable play by all players + There were no communication what so ever as to how long the content lasted. Not in game, not on the forums, not on the release page, not on facebook. Only hint was “Fortnight” which after “Boss Week” means nothing.

Cliff.8679:

Just look at it this way: It was going to happen sooner or later. At some point, something was going to happen where you weren’t going to be able to complete all the living story achievements for that release in time. Maybe you’d be away on a trip, maybe your internet would go down, maybe an achievement would be too difficult for you to complete in time. Just know that, whatever the reason, it was inevitable. Makes it easier to swallow that way.

You may be right. But all of your examples trace back to one thing. That I was away. MY net was down. That I wasn’t skilled enough.
And that is exactly how it should be. If I don’t get something completed, it should be MY fault. And hey, it kind of was, I chose to ignore “Fortnight”, given that “Boss Week” didn’t mean anything either. But I find that the lack of communication is NOT my fault, therefore the complaint.
I can swallow it, no problem, but ultimately that also makes me care less for the game. (No that is not an “I quit” threat) But for now I still care that the game is handled the right way. New content is what keeps old players like me going. And while not everyone care about one achievement, everyone has something they care about.

This time it was the achievement hunters. Several players missed one or more of the achievements because they shared my misunderstanding. Taking away someones complete collection of achievements like that takes away a lot of trust as well.

TriggerSad.2597:

Treeline.3865:

Boss Week.

Which they’ve learned from. Hence the use of “Fortnight.”

Maybe they have. I hope so. But ultimately, how would you know? If weeks can be two weeks, then fortnights can be months. Without a timer or an official end date (just like release date), how do you really know? You simply can’t. And even though the Fractured subforum had plenty of requests to know how long it would be around for, no official answer was given.

As far as the old thread went in the short time it was available, it seems several other forum users made the same mistake by assuming that achievements as RNG based as these would be around for more than two weeks. Luckily I was certain that it would last for the usual 4 weeks, given the nature of the achievement, so I did not spend time grinding them. I only did ~8 sets of Fractals to miss Snowblind. For others, it seems they have spent those two weeks grinding Fractals to make it in time for an actual fortnight, yet getting slapped around by RNG to still miss one Fractal – Heck, there were threads on the forum going “WTB <Fractal>, 5G”. That’s desperation.

Whether people just misunderstood like I did, two weeks were ultimately still way too short for the set of achievements that followed.

Malediktus.9250:

Not happening. It was advertised as “Fortnight” = 14 days

Boss Week.

This is a copy-paste of my thread from the Fractured! subforum, since that has now already been archived along with some of the older content updates. I did not find that it ran its course, so here it is again. Seeing that almost every patch, including the current Wintersday brings the usual confusion of “How long does this content last???”, i find that the topic is very relevant, even outside the context of Fractured! itself.

Some people argue that since the achievements mentioned a fortnight! , that makes it obvious that they would be around for two weeks. The fact that Boss Week was around for more than a week makes that point moot for me.

Relevant threads:
Old thread
Paying for Fractals: 1 2 3
Threads asking when the achievements go away: 1 2 3 4
Other requests to bring back Fractured!: 1 2

Original Post
One of the main things I have played for in this game is achievements. I don’t grind dailies or care much about the amount of AP I have. What I care about is actual achievements, of which most have been temporary. And that is okay. Since the Living Story was introduced we have relied on a pattern that achievements were available to do for two patches (~1 month).

I might have missed some information this time, but apparently Fractured! for some unexplainable reason, did not follow this pattern. What I love to have achieved is now gone.

5 hours ago I could say “I have done EVERY living story achievement.” No exception. Every achievement of every release. I carved a load of pumpkins last year at halloween. I murdered those Karka. I beat up Mai Trin flawlessly without getting hit by the cannons. I beat Liadri. I beat her again by throwing 8 orbs at her. I killed 225 dolyaks and 225 sentries to get all 19 WvW achievements. I did 50 merc camps, learning the pattern and timers of the camps. I could go on and on, you get the idea. I was proud, and being able to say “I did everything” was what really kept me going.

This might be my own fault, the info was probably available somewhere. But in any event my achievement hunt is probably over. For me the fun is gone because I will never be able to make the same statement again. But hey, I really want to keep enjoying this game as much as I’ve done so far, so I lose nothing by asking:

Can you please bring back the Fractured! achievements for another 14 days? And for the future, would there be any chance you could add a timer to temporary achievement sets, like you have with dailies, to show us how long we have left?

- A sad Treeline.

Edit: Attached a picture of my accomplishments to visualize how a simple achievement can result in a bad day.

I really feel bad for all of you who did grind the Fractals hardcore and still not had any luck. I thought I had plenty of time, so I only ran 8 sets of fractals, missing the one, Snowblind.. But actually having tried, and still missing one. That’s just bitter.

Refeuh.8493:

The main issue is that nobody really knows how long these living story bits actually last…

Some last for 4 weeks or more, and overlap with new content, while some disappear in just a week. History proves that we cannot rely on the “title” of the living story branches (“week”, “fortnight”, etc.) to reflect the actual duration of the events.

So what, people need to rush all the achievements in the first week-end, just in case they go away earlier than expected ? … That doesn’t make sense, and this is really frustrating.

Amen

BaconCatTheGreasy.9542:

It said fractal fortnight, not fractal month. If you really wanted the AP you would have spammed level 1s to get it.

I did only level 30s and 40s and got it, so zero sympathy.

“Boss Week”.

Fror.2163:

Okay, my mistake on the intention. But hey, I had the exact same case with getting Frostgorge Sound in the Scarlet invasions. I got over it. Don’t make it like this is the first time RNG is involved in an achievement.

While I’m not a fan of RNG at all, the Scarlet invasions were not bad. They were guaranteed to be there twice a day on every map. In other words, if you put in the effort to be around for 24 hours, you were guaranteed that you would have the achievements. That’s not the case with Fractured! And 2 weeks is just not enough in my opinion, if that’s the RNG they want to put us through.

Fror.2163:

While I feel for you guys, there’s no “perfect” account. No one has such things regarding achievement points. You could be close to it, but in no way you have all achievement points available.

So you actually don’t have a perfect account and you won’t quit the game because you missed 5 achievement points that some of your competitors got. Just wait for them to do a mistake (eventually everyone does) and you’ll be back up in the game.

I did have a perfect account in the ways I wanted, amongst other accomplishments, having done every single Living World achievement (That’s over 300 in total). So what you are saying is not true. Everyone have their own idea of what a perfect account is.

Furthermore, what grounds do you have to say what our motives behind it is? I don’t care much about achievement points, so you are wrong about me at least. If i did, i would grind dailies, but I really don’t care about them. I just want to do all the other achievements, and I was proud that I had done every single one.

Excell.1042:

Also, if the living story is removed from the game, why is the forum thread still labeled “Current Living Story”?

This subforum will probably be locked and moved to historical soon, but I really hope that they instead will do a ninja patch with the bugfixes like this:

- Fixed an issue where Fractured! achievements would move to Historical, locking the achievements. These achievements can now be obtained for the remaining 2 weeks as intended.

Beastageddon.4037:

Treeline that image you posted is glorious ^^. Clearly you have the same achievement OCD that I do.

I found that was the only way to visualize it. Luckily I don’t suffer from OCD, it was more like a hobby. With one gone forever it’s just not a fun hobby anymore

Same boat. I really hope ArenaNet will do this for us. The Fractured! achievements do not interfere with current content, so they can reverse it if they want, I think. I hope they will.

Taku.6352:

They were labeled “Fractal fortnight”. Also known as 2 weeks.

Boss Week lasted for more than a week

One of the main things I have played for in this game is achievements. I don’t grind dailies or care much about the amount of AP I have. What I care about is actual achievements, of which most have been temporary. And that is okay. Since the Living Story was introduced we have relied on a pattern that achievements were available to do for two patches (~1 month).

I might have missed some information this time, but apparently Fractured! for some unexplainable reason, did not follow this pattern. What I love to have achieved is now gone.

5 hours ago I could say “I have done EVERY living story achievement.” No exception. Every achievement of every release. I carved a load of pumpkins last year at halloween. I murdered those Karka. I beat up Mai Trin flawlessly without getting hit by the cannons. I beat Liadri. I beat her again by throwing 8 orbs at her. I killed 225 dolyaks and 225 sentries to get all 19 WvW achievements. I did 50 merc camps, learning the pattern and timers of the camps. I could go on and on, you get the idea. I was proud, and being able to say “I did everything” was what really kept me going.

This might be my own fault, the info was probably available somewhere. But in any event my achievement hunt is probably over. For me the fun is gone because I will never be able to make the same statement again. But hey, I really want to keep enjoying this game as much as I’ve done so far, so I lose nothing by asking:

Can you please bring back the Fractured! achievements for another 14 days? And for the future, would there be any chance you could add a timer to temporary achievement sets, like you have with dailies, to show us how long we have left?

- A sad Treeline.

Edit: Attached a picture of my accomplishments to visualize how a simple achievement can result in a bad day.

I’d be more for making Swamp longer.

kokiman.2364:

mtpelion.4562:

Since when do rules apply to the all powerful John Smith? Who dares to deny the Almighty “permission”?

:P

Nexon

Shots fired!

skullmount.1758:

And what lore would suggest she could get either Molten Alliance or specifically Toxic Alliance to work at all either? None, so why would she now. If anything the simplest reason could be she just wants Tixx’s manufacturing capabilities or just the Infinirarium for no reason at all.

If you talk to NPC’s in game you would get some hints:

For example:

The krait are notorious xenophobes. We searched for the motive behind this inconceivable alliance and strongly suspect that Scarlet offered the krait shards of an obelisk in exchange for their participation.

As directly as you can get it from Priory Arcanist Dolja.
As for the Molten Alliance, that is too far away for me to remember, but I don’t imagine two parties who’s losing over and over would require much convincing to join up to form a much stronger alliance under new leadership.

hedix.1986:

Treeline.3865:

No lore would suggest she would have any reason to interfere with Wintersday. But maybe something will happen outside LA. We still do not know what the deal is with DO NOT TOUCH, and the new release does mention stuff still happening in Kessex and around.

On the contrary. Current lore suggests that she would interfere with any festival/holiday. Just because. See Dragon Bash and Queen’s Jubilee.

But we’ll see when the day comes.

You are ignoring what was behind those interferences. For example, she invaded the Queen’s Jubilee to gain access to the watchknights, which she now has for her own purposes. What she gained from the technology is still to be known. It was not because of the festival.

Yup. Gems <=> Gold are player trades. You need to actually buy gems.

Malediktus.9250:

Sure 2000 gems each if you want no RNG. Otherwise its unfair for people who got them last year.

Depends on who you were. I probably paid around 600 gems per pet through RNG. (Triple for Foostivoo of course) Could be worse, but I would prefer that people have a non RNG option. You know, let people buy what they like

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

Like, she is everywhere, i hope we didn’t see her at leaset on Wintersday

No lore would suggest she would have any reason to interfere with Wintersday. But maybe something will happen outside LA. We still do not know what the deal is with DO NOT TOUCH, and the new release does mention stuff still happening in Kessex and around.

I think people should have another shot at these minipets. I got the minipets using 50$ on chests, but a lot of people were less lucky, spending at least double that amount to get them.

I hope Anet will re-release those minipets for those who did not get the chance (no pun intended) to get these minipets. And not the RNG way. Pricy is ok, RNG is not.

BaconCatTheGreasy.9542:

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH! DONT TELL THEM!

If you don’t want to tell them when there is a bug in your favor, you should not report bugs that are not, either

The Copper-Fed-Salvage-o-Matic definitely improved. I didn’t give it much thought, but now that you all mention it, I DO get a lot of sigils and runes lately. More than I used to.

Definitely bugged.

As someone who already had the minipet I am happy about it, even if it is expensive. It gives people the chance to get the item ingame, rather than some third party webpage (Hi eBay!) and for collectors this could mean they will continue collecting.

What I’m not happy about is the time it took to respond. Some gave up on collecting in between. Picking up Sparkles now, would still mean for example missing the halloween pet, giving no incentive to start again now.

But hey! Better late than never. For some people this means being back to a complete collection

Thanks for the red post. I’m just happy that people can get a Mr. Sparkles now. I really can’t blame people for not wanting to trade on eBay

You get a +1 from me. Not because I mind that they can’t beat their own content, I would just love to see them try

Anet ran out of ideas for making minipets, but still wanted the cash
+ They already did the cute minipet theme, so there’s less to work with now.

AysonCurrax.3254:

how exactly is it a ripoff? you are not spening 4000 gems to buy the mini. you simply purchase 4000gems and spend them on other things and get him FOR FREE.
By your logic, any kind of bonus given to a purchase would be a rip off.

“Purchase a Mercedes before the 24th of Dezember and safe 10.000$”

so it would be a rip off to buy a car just to safe 10.000$? no. you are buying the car because you plan to use it.

Your example sums up to buy a Mercedes and get a hotdog for free.
If you in fact only wanted the hotdog, which could not be obtained by other means, it would still be a kitten expensive hotdog
I do not get the minipet without paying 40$. It just happens that I get a Mercedes(4k gems) with the payment.

In any event, that was not the point of the post, the point was to tell those that might still follow the thread, that while it is still an expensive minipet, it is now available without the means of a third party website, as many people wished for. So yay for that.