i think warriors counter certain professions like necros. a necro is a ranger’s counter and if warriors get nerfed necro will be extremely op to the extent that noone can counter them. i dont play warrior at all so i dont have any idea how easy it can be played.
the spirit res can regen 320 hp per 1 1/2 sec. it’s not that much but it helps. a warrior lb burst aoe is a pain though but i dont see many warriors use that on a 1v1 battle. what players need to learn is to dodge the stuns. try to move a little sometimes. lol
it’s kind of confusing for someone who is not a veteran in spvp. i really dont see warriors op. i’m not a pro but i can still beat a warrior 1v1 as a ranger.
thieves are already underpowered no need to ask for a nerf. :-(
thieves and eles have AI’s too and only warriors and guardians dont but they can choose to trait for a rockdog.
so warriors and guardians are the only rightfull classes?
you can see me in duel arenas if you wanna see how a spirit ranger pawns warriors.
i join hotjoin for an occasional 8v8 zergfest. it’s really fun.
an ele plays a really good role to team balance. they can roam and rain aoe’s on a zerg. i see some ele’s being effective in tpvp. the only bad thing really is what a team needs is just one ele. 2 ele’s on a team is just too much just like thieves, if they are too many they become useless.
you can ask help from the elementalist subforum. i see some ele’s doing really well in pvp. i thought they had gotten useless but time made me see the truth.
All I see is great warrior gameplay (stop hating on the dude guys, you shouldnt be mean to people because they are stupid).
Thanks OP nice video, keep it up
dont call him stupid because he’s not. he might have said something that you dont agree with but that didnt make him less intelligent than you.
i agree with what he said. warriors are not that op. i see them get killed 1v1 all the time.
i agree that a warrior’s longbow is extremely powerful. i think that aspect should be nerfed but thats about it.
good point. but i still say that this issue is getting blown out of proportions. i dont feel unhappy about what warriors were rewarded. it’s all cool to me.
btw, whats OP to you? i see warriors getting killed on 1v1 and team fights. if i see a warrior kill 2 players at the same time then i will agree that they are OP. do you have any video to show that?
i dont think warriors are OP and i’m sure other people think the same way.
stop making the dev’s think that the majority of players have the same thinking like you do. warriors die in group fights and also 1v1.
i bet most of you whine just for the sake of whining. lol
warriors are not OP. you just dont know how to deal with them. these qq threads about warriors are getting old and boring.
next please…
I think that the only thing that makes a spirit ranger supposedly “OP” is that it’s a tanky build but has good dps. All classes have the option to choose that kind of build, right?
That’s the problem. Warriors Minion necros, and spirit rangers all get access to tanky specs THAT STILL DO BIG DAMAGE + SUPPORT.
Every other class is balanced around choosing between damage, tank, and support. You want damage? You gotta go glass and be good at dodging damage. You want bunker? You gotta give up your ability to do power dps. Condi damage does equal damage to power damage right now but only requires investment IN ONE STAT. So spirit rangers get to kitten out DPS while being tnaking and having screen clutter + pet AI as a crutch.
Spirit rangers do not get to complain about class balance until condi damage gets scaled back or is changed to depend on more than one stat (like power spec)>
i don’t play a condition spirit. i run a power spirit build. i give condition boon to my allies but i dont deal huge condition myself. just saying…
you get more ranks and glory if your team wins. i know hotjoin is casual but i’m sure a lot of new players are enjoying it. dissing it don’t make you a better player at all.
you need to know how to disengage if you get outnumbered or outclassed.
the point really is to decap points so you just have to worry about your team winning their zerg fight.
you guys are really smart. i feel like an idiot here.
i will just read and learn from you.
that guy is just insecure. let him be. he doesnt know anything.
i dont get why people QQ about warriors that much. They are cool to me.
Who wants to be on a team with no bunkers anyway? If you’re a an ele or a thief, would you want to be on a team with your same class? no. That’s called team composition balance.
Some people are just too hardheaded to see that.
bw, pvp’s population is not thinning down. i notice more and more people coming in to it.
Warriors are in a really good place now. It’s a great job that mods were able to get this class balanced. They used to be extremely UP but now they serve a good role in a team fight.
No need to nerf a warrior, IMO.
You know which class is OP? Necros. Mods need to take a look at that profession.
this thread is a work of a genius…
i like it.
I think that the only thing that makes a spirit ranger supposedly “OP” is that it’s a tanky build but has good dps. All classes have the option to choose that kind of build, right?
Minion masters have too many pets dealing damage on someone while a spirit ranger just rely to get boons from his spirits. MM’s pets can immobilize and steal health which I think is extremely OP considering their number. Minions also serve as a protection wall.
They are the same as traits that proc things passively.
Such as Dhuumfire-esque traits.
They’re not the only guilty one, doesn’t make them any less guilty.
Nobody is “guilty”. These are the traits and classes that the game consists of. Everyone is free to use any one of them. But some people decide that only certain builds and professions are “real”…the ones they enjoy playing that require the type of skills they find enjoyable.
you are absolutely right.
spirits are just traps and boon bringers to a ranger. once the spirit dies, the boon disappears and they turn into traps.
no point explaining to these kids. they already got their minds set that they play better than anyone else.
jesus what can’t you comprehend? holy kitten, its not about playing better wtf, its that its a faceroll, annoying, screen clutering, anti-fun for everyone else spec! WHAT THE kitten. learn to comprehend….
saying rangers just do auto-attack doesn’t give the impression that you got more skills playing your class.
idk why they even let you post here with your always condescending comments.
and most utilities dont have %procs that happen even if you are kitten ing around auto attacking/kitten
i bet you are one bitter thief qq’ing about spirit rangers. i say join the bandwagon. your online gaming life will be more fun.
im not an homosexual to join said bandwagon
there’s nothing wrong being a homosexual, dude.
if you want to keep your no-good build, keep it. if that makes you happy. i’ll be happy for you too. ^^,
no point explaining to these kids. they already got their minds set that they play better than anyone else.
and most utilities dont have %procs that happen even if you are kitten ing around auto attacking/kitten
i bet you are one bitter thief qq’ing about spirit rangers. i say join the bandwagon. your online gaming life will be more fun.
i like playing a ranger because the moas are so cute. i’m sure a lot of people share the same fondness with animals.
Having an animal companion IG is the bestest thing ever. I just wish the spirits look more animal-like than plants.
stop complaining. pvp is booming. it is the best part of the game.
if you dont like pvp, stay in pve or just quit.
Go dev’s! You’re all doing a great job.
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i’m dead serious. you people just need to adapt to the changes. pvp has a lot to offer. you can play casual or competitive. kids and adults can enjoy and have fun. do you see my point? ^^,
stop complaining. pvp is booming. it is the best part of the game.
if you dont like pvp, stay in pve or just quit.
Go dev’s! You’re all doing a great job.
ikr. i really have this amazing personality just like my ranger. people say.
dont fall in love that fast. i hate to be a heartbreaker.
but seriously, mods idea of reveal stealth is terrible. i dont see any ranger using that. i’m sure more rangers will be happier if mods buff the spirits.
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i wish they make rangers more powerful next patch. we can be the next counter to warriors.
more power to the spirits. spirit of nature needs a cd of 120-140 seconds. thats the way to go.
all classes take skill to use. some are just much tankier than the other.
it’s really simple. no need to make any comparison.
GW2 is a really fun game. I even abandoned my ps3 just to focus on this game.
I still don’t get why people complain about their class being weak when they can just play a stronger one instead.
GW2 is the best pvp-oriented MMORPG ever. I’m sure the dev’s are doing their best to make this game more fun. I even see more people playing pvp. PVP is not dead, it’s changing constantly and you need to learn how to adapt to enjoy it.
I can roll any build you can think of as a ranger. This is the only class i played since I started playing GW2.
Spirit build must be the easiest build but it’s definitely not OP. I like having warriors and necros on my team. they bring more to the table and it’s really fun facerolling people that use weakling builds.
If you’re not bringing enough support to your team why run the same build and get owned over and over. Pretty easy, right?
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this thread is precious. lol
let’s compare ranger’s elite to a necro’s elite. res spirit CD is 180 seconds. flesh golem CD is 60 seconds.
if the mod’s cannot increase the necro’s elite CD then at least bring down the spirit res to 120-140 sec. fair enough.
i’m tired explaining my point. i give up.
necros are completely BALANCED. no other profession is as balanced as they are.
dude you just refuse to listen to everything people say to you.
people arent saying necro is balanced, they’re saying minionmancer works for 1v1’s and thats it. And it’s true. They are also saying that you complaining about how necromancer is an AI faceroller is stupid, because you play spirit ranger which is another AI faceroller relying on passive procs from the spirits, which is also true!
But in your own little mind, spirit ranger is a rightfully skillfull spec and you are a good player.
Have you considered that maybe the reason you struggle so much is, and pardon my french, you suck? And that maybe the only reason you thought you were a good player is because you are playing a braindead spec, that even the most mentally challenged minds of our society could play, a spec that allows you to kill people with half the effort they would have to make to kill you?For all i care you are right, minionmancer should be nerfed to the ground, and so should spirit ranger. They are both on the same sac when it comes to facerolling and easymodeness.
spirits do not auto attack. how can you say they are OP? they just serve as signets to add condition to a ranger’s attack.
maybe, the spirit res can be annoying for other people but that’s about it. i don’t see why you got this huge hatred towards spirit ranger.
i’m tired explaining my point. i give up.
necros are completely BALANCED. no other profession is as balanced as they are.
there must be a reason why you are all defending this build. lol
i say necros need to be nerfed to the ground not just the MM build. it makes the whole GW2 game experience frustrating and unenjoyable.
Well, one thing I saw you do a lot is stand still and you use LB+SB, if you stand there and let them eat you, that’s your own fault, to be fair. (When actually playing) strafing and dodgerolling from them can give you quite a bit of time where they’re not hitting you. If you stand still and expect to survive, that’s not really an issue with the build, its a pressure build, if you stand still and let a thief go to town on you you’re going to die just as fast if not faster. As I’ve said it has a high skill floor, but also a high skill ceiling having to manage the pets, and the enemy so the pets can be effective, and keeping them alive. If they suddenly were bad at 1v1 too, the design would be worse than the niche they have. they’re already bad 1v1 vs aoe builds, bad in team fights, take the small amount of builds they can wreck 1v1 and you have yourself a magical 100% useless build. Making builds useless isn’t a better design plan if you ask me. Learn how to fight them at the best potential.
how can i move if you got your minions immobilizing me all the time? you say your playing a hard spec is just amazing. you’re right, your build sucks in a team fight but that doesnt change the fact that it’s too strong for 1v1.
anyone who says your build is weak 1v1 is arrogant or lying.
soloque has nothing to offer. how can you win if you always get 4v5 and also with afk’ers?
yeah, i’m bad because i can beat guardians and warriors 1v1 (the tankiest professions in this game). lol
there’s even someone who posted here that his friend has never been defeated 1v1 playing as a minion necro.
it’s not only me who has the same predicament.
tested a necro to kill me with only his minions, it took 21 seconds to beat me with 2000+ dps what more if he used his dagger. that build is just OP to the highest level.
i’m aware that they can get killed in a team fight quickly but you still cannot deny the fact they can faceroll any build out there 1v1. if a spirit ranger gets pawned by MM, just imagine what it can do to ele’s, theives and mesmers.
no…. skyhammer is the best map created EVER. it is where you utilize your skills the most.
most talented team wins.
yeah, you’re right. i still want a longer CD on your flesh golems though. lol
idk why you have such short CD on your elite skill… i still find it unfair that our spirit res has 180 sec cd. that is just too long compared to yours.
a good thief can beat a spirit ranger 1v1.
spirit rangers are not OP. they are BALANCED. maybe an ele is a little underpowered but i’m sure they had their moment of power.
Who plays this crap anyway, Autoatacking with a spirit build most be boring.
how can a spirit ranger beat a warrior if what he does is just spamming 1 on a shortbow? you use poison and daze, man. you are completely misinformed. try rolling this build before you diss it.