i just killed a zerker ele using only my pet lynx earlier in tpvp. he was dealing insane damage and nuked us at the start of battle but as soon as we noticed, he served as a free kill till the game ended.
this water spirit opens other possibilities for spirit rangers. it wouldn’t hurt to experiment. i’m sure other spirit rangers would welcome some changes in their old builds.
well, at least you get 2 duelists on your team and they both have excellent team support. you can have the condition-based spirit ranger to defend home node and the cleric spirit ranger to support at mid.
healing spring is the best heal on a ranger, no argument. but if a team decides to bring 2 spirit rangers then a spirit ranger with a water spirit can be an option. this gives more diversity in spirit builds. a team can bring a condi/dps spirit ranger and a cleric spirit ranger (both viable).
You should mention that water spirit adds body blocking and another target that opponents have to cycle through. Damage blocked/delayed by the spirit adds to its “healing potential”. This alone gives it a big edge in sPVP. It also moves when traited unlike healing spring. Lastly, the large passive radius means your allies don’t need to stack on you to gain the benefit.
The passive portion on the heal is very useful for dealing with low-sources of incoming damage from stray dots/attacks that hit you while the burst portion of the heal helps deal with direct damage. What’s important here is that the passive heal is active prior to setting your burst heal on cooldown — this is superior to healing turret/healing spring which require you to blow your healing cooldown to get the passive heal (regen).
The new heals were never supposed to be “the best heal the professions have.”
good point, man. thank you.
just imagine a ranger with a water spirit and spirit of nature, how much heal can he provide for his team? healing spring is really effective for condition cleanse but water spirit is much better in group heal.
btw, any decent player would know to destroy the turrets first before stepping inside the node. water spirit has much larger health pool than healing turrets.
Water Spirit Stats With Cleric Amulet:
proc heal: 903 heal per 10 seconds for the ranger and the rest of his team.
active heal: 4246 heal on self and 1930 heal per ally
Number of Targets: 5
active heal cd: 25 sec
1 more heal after it dies
total heal before the spirit dies:
on self: 12738
per ally: 5790
on procs: 5418
tell me if it doesn’t help keeping your team alive in team fights.
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spirit ranger is not easy mode. why dont you all roll this build and find out the truth?
spirit rangers are the “michael jordan” of gw2.
even after all the nerfs rangers still reign supreme. today gw2, tomorrow the world.
Spirit Rangers are still in Tier One. Live with it. (evil laugh)
maybe you guys are using the wrong amulets and runes. be creative. it’s the best support heal on a ranger. if you use it with spirit of nature, your team is unbeatable.
i also got dishonorable today. we were winning and i still got the chests when i logged in. my pc crashed and when i tried to come back to the game, patch happened. now i cant play tourneys for 2 days. cries
you use your brain to hold a glass of water.
Can’t wait til brain dead evades on rangers get nerfed so that class will take skill already. Oh wait…
our vigor was already nerfed, dude. what more do you want?
our vigor was already nerfed, dude. what more do you want?
wrong thread
I just want to thank anet for the new water spirit. it’s really fun to use.
Power Based Spirit Ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJATVjIVN1dVmVg2BgVBAbP0MTMdPKl0TzYlUwZB-TwAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNEZJyxjnHA
skyhammer takes huge skills. it’s the best map where you can win 4v5 with proper strategy and excellent positioning.
Spirits without a stunbreaker like Lighting Reflexes cant..
One stunbreak in a 90sec cd..That it can be triggered by a random small cc..
you think so? what if i told you that the storm spirit can still hit like a truck? lol
you can run hybrid build. do not go full condition build.
any ranger build can counter a hambow. lol
i feel bad for ele’s. i was on my spirit ranger earlier in soloq and i was able to beat the same ele 3x in a row who was trying to steal our home node which i was defending alone. i’m not sure if he was just really bad or eles have gotten squishier.
and also in a different match, there was this warrior who said at the start of the match that he will not rez the ele if he died and that the ele needed to reroll to a different class.
eles need some love.
spirit rangers are here to stay and annoy you all. sorry.
let the ele’s be viable again. they need this. necro has been on top of the food chain far too long.
i wonder if i can play ele well… mmm…
No, this won’t make eles nowhere near viable, the trait sucks. It makes eles a no skill hard counter to necros, but also makes them absolute crap against power builds because eles will have an useless 30 point trait investment against power builds. This is just bad game design. Its complete rock paper scissors and a perfect example of why good players quit this game. This trait is just complete awful. There is nothing a necro can do against this, no matter how bad the ele is, the ele will win this match up.
even if i use a MM build?
i think its pretty obvious i was talking about the condi meta necromancer….
why are you so grumpy? lmao
i was just asking a question. it doesn’t hurt to be friendly sometimes.
let the ele’s be viable again. they need this. necro has been on top of the food chain far too long.
i wonder if i can play ele well… mmm…
No, this won’t make eles nowhere near viable, the trait sucks. It makes eles a no skill hard counter to necros, but also makes them absolute crap against power builds because eles will have an useless 30 point trait investment against power builds. This is just bad game design. Its complete rock paper scissors and a perfect example of why good players quit this game. This trait is just complete awful. There is nothing a necro can do against this, no matter how bad the ele is, the ele will win this match up.
even if i use a MM build?
Stop spamming conditions with your damageless bunker condition build and you can win. It’s not like bringing elementalist down from 100% to 90% is impossible.
Stop whining, and learn to adapt.We are going to adapt just like all the Eles had to before: by rerolling to Warrior.
Its okay ANet, we finally got the message, we’re all rerolling to Warrior now.
this made my day. thanks for the laugh.
let the ele’s be viable again. they need this. necro has been on top of the food chain far too long.
i wonder if i can play ele well… mmm…
condition builds bore me to death. this is just ok. AI and power builds for the win!!!
More AI’s, please.
yeah right. i was on top 800 in teamq before the reset, dude. i’ve already played more than 100 tourney games and i just had 5 straight wins earlier on my necro in tpvp. i may no longer be in leaderboards now because of inactivity but i do know what i’m talking about.
…and you also play necro..
i love necro. best class ever. <3 < 3 <3
qaelyn, if you wish to get roflstomped and have a very frustrating gw2 pvp experience go take this guy’s suggested builds.
i like cheese. everybody likes cheese. and after the patch we will create another cheese builds.
No someone who actually thinks will make a cheese build for you to copy and paste.
you’re accusing me of copying other people’s builds? lol. so what if i did which i didn’t? this is just a game, dude. everybody uses game guides and cheats. i use cheats on ps3 all the time.
and also ahuba, why do you always antagonize me? is it because i’m not as veteran as you guys? i assume this is all how you treat new players here. no wonder why pvp is dying.
Qaelyn please don’t take any build links Valentin posts seriously the guy does not have any real experience in team queues, hasn’t competed in tournaments, and constantly trolls the forums
yeah right. i was on top 800 in teamq before the reset, dude. i’ve already played more than 100 tourney games and i just had 5 straight wins earlier on my necro in tpvp. i may no longer be in leaderboards now because of inactivity but i do know what i’m talking about.
DUDE! You were in the top 800 (IN NA LOL) with 7 wins and 5 losses!!!!! ROFL and you are bragging about it…
i wouldn’t get the rank if we didn’t beat top players, dude. besides i had no intention to brag about it. we all know how leaderboards is so broken. i only play for fun not to be a pro. i also wanna help new players to have an enjoyable pvp experience. what did you do to contribute in getting new players to join the community? None.
qaelyn, if you wish to get roflstomped and have a very frustrating gw2 pvp experience go take this guy’s suggested builds.
i like cheese. everybody likes cheese. and after the patch we will create another cheese builds.
Qaelyn please don’t take any build links Valentin posts seriously the guy does not have any real experience in team queues, hasn’t competed in tournaments, and constantly trolls the forums
yeah right. i was on top 800 in teamq before the reset, dude. i’ve already played more than 100 tourney games and i just had 5 straight wins earlier on my necro in tpvp. i may no longer be in leaderboards now because of inactivity but i do know what i’m talking about.
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My favorite builds so far…
Minion Necro :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBIhZakRrVvXzWjePBIpIaqnewN4hDVYXA-TsAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNEZJyEEA
Power Based Spirit Ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJATVjIVN1dVmVg2BgVBAbP0MTMdPKl0TzYlUwZB-TwAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNEZJyxjnHA
Hammer/Longbow Warrior:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJASTjkOpwFP6OMxBE0DNkLqCThjI94MMjBE-TwAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNQYhwRknIA
Endless Clone Mesmer:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQJARWlwzKq3UTmGb9ICKFYn3RShqlalegbz2FC-TwAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNEZJyRknIA
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You can tell many people who PvP in this game would make terrible economists :P Economic law says people will always try to get the most benefit for the least amount of effort. This is true and there’s nothing wrong with this because its a natural human response. That said; because of this you will never kill effective easy builds because someone will always find a way to be effective, and amongst the effective builds, one will always be the easiest, and that’s where smart people will gravitate!
LOGIC!
i might main a necro now, ron. thanks for all the help.
tbh, i’m starting to get bored with my ranger already. necro is more fun.
You’re completely delusional.
Apparently Caith is completely delusional too.
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Qaelyn,
Then play one of the myriad of broken builds out there and have fun for about 2 weeks. You’ll get bored of it eventually, we all have.
a strong build is always fun. playing a build that gets you beaten all the time is not fun at all. its frustrating.
just tried MM necro in tpvp and won consecutively. lol
this class is much easier than a spirit ranger, IMO. i’ve only played it in weeks and it’s doing an awesome job.
This is the standard hambow i guess: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-ss-o;1NKVP0f4;160;9;59T-T;13;189;127A;6KJG4KJG45BW
3rd Utility: Dolyak Signet, Signet of Stamina or Defy Pain depending on enemy teamcomp and personal preferences
Defense: 2 or 3
Sigils: 2x Fire or maybe energy+force or sth else
I heard some people run Soldiers or Valyries amulet for more defense but i never tried that.Want more cheese? Go try soldier with that…no joke, you just…can’t die while still killing stuff, even more braindead than zerk one..for the real pro wars xD
that’s my favorite ammy on my warrior.
I don’t use healing spring. Not all spirit rangers use healing spring. It’s initial heal is really weak and heal as one has shorter cd.
I love the idea of getting another spirit as long it has huge health pool. Pls anet, give that spirit a huge health pool so it won’t die quickly from hits. I think it will be better to disable the condition removal from the nature spirit and move it to this potentially useful spirit. All rangers are gonna be happy.
Hambow is not easy to play. You have to use your berserker stance wisely and make sure you land your cc’s and attacks well. Mellee class is never easy. People overestimate this class really bad. I hope people will stop calling a class OP just because they don’t know how to counter it.
lol this post would be perfect as a troll, but knowing you, I know you’re 100% serious. God kitten it, you’re gonna get me forum banned again because of all the nonsense you say bro. Stop pls
if you start believing me then your forum stay would be much better. even a noob like me has the right to express his thoughts.
Hambow is not easy to play.
Can you stop trolling dude?
Play something like ele or non bunker multikit engi -> compare it to hambow -> realize that your statement is absurdly far from the truth.
i can play warrior, necro, mesmer and ranger. chasing a foe with a hammer is kinda tricky since its attacks are pretty slow. healing signet active heal is useless. once foes burst you in a team fight, you are dead. necro has spectral form, a ranger has the nature spirit and a mesmer has clones and teleport. go figure which one has better survivability.
Hambow is not easy to play. You have to use your berserker stance wisely and make sure you land your cc’s and attacks well. Mellee class is never easy. People overestimate this class really bad. I hope people will stop calling a class OP just because they don’t know how to counter it.
play Minion Master build. really easy and strong. you can evil kill people with it naked. all you need to do is master timing you CC’s and you’re good to go. try it on hotjoins first but i’m sure it’s gonna do fantastic on tpvp too.
Wait till the Phantasm Mesmers show up with their new heal.
i killed a mesmer on my naked MM 1v1. lol
use a MM build. you can even beat them 1v1 naked with it. get your pets attack him first, immobilize and then auto attack with a dagger.
my sexy mesmer. <3
if you know how to sing and play instruments. just like me. ^^,
I’ve teamed up with 3 thieves and we still won. I don’t think it’s the class that determines the victor of the match, it’s the skills of the players.
3 spirit rangers 2 warriors ftw… i love it.