Guild Wars 2

why does a necro get a 48- 60 second cooldown on their elite pet? our res spirit has a 180 sec cd, now you say it’s op?

maybe if i played a different class my point was taken more seriously.

really? why are you even defending this build?

maybe you’re not having a hard time dealing with minion necros but a lot of of people do like myself. yes, they can get killed on a team fight but they being really effective 1v1 is just showing how OP they are.

i’m sure you have an idea how painstaking it is to kite all of their pets, you dodging here and there. and just after you took down all of his pets, he’s summoning his pets again. it’s a stressful battle ending with the nec as the victor.

jmatb.6307:

I guess Engineers need to be nerfed too…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUl9yQM1a0s

no need to nerf engineers. it takes skills to run that class. i admit that i get owned by engi’s on a duel server but they are not OP when it comes to team fight.

Gallrvaghn.4921:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Valentin.2073:

They are just OP. How do you even beat them 1v1? I run a spirit ranger and it’s just impossible to beat this petting zoo build. All they do is just stand there and let their minions deplete your hp and you can’t do anything about it.

Petting zoo build complains about petting zoo build..Oh the irony

Maybe he wants Spirits to also finally be able to auto-attack for him so he can type /dance while fighting.

what i wanted to happen is to at least increase CD on their flesh golem. that AI is just too strong to handle.

http://youtu.be/DNF73YkvVBs

watch this video and tell me if there’s any other class that can do it.

dealing with 5 ai’s all actively assaulting you is much harder than dealing with a spirit ranger. do you even know how strong a flesh golem is?

there’s only a small number of people who dislike a spirit ranger. if i’m not mistaken this build was highly represented on high-end tourneys. the spirits don’t actively attack anyone except storm spirit and we only use that once the enemy gets close enough (stunlock warriors). all necro’s pets deal damage and they don’t even need to click anything. they can just stand frigid letting their pets do all the work. it’s a no brainer build.

so what you’re all saying is that a necro is completely balanced? this is a real eye-opener.

Ashanor.5319:

I had a friend running a somewhat tanky minion necro months ago. I’m not complaining or anything, but I have never once seen him lose when he plays minion necro in duels and he generally wins a lot of 1v2s as well. Most I see playing minion necros seem to be completely clueless as to what it is capable of. /shrug

thank you.

flesh golem has a really short CD and just after i was able to kite all of the minions, the necro has already summoned that super strong golem. no ranger pet can even be compared to their flesh golem.

the flesh golem CD needs a huge nerf.

can anyone enlighten me what makes a spirit ranger a facerolling build? O.o

AOE is not really a ranger’s forte… I cannot find a way to beat these minion necros. I always get feared before I can even get close to them, while all her pets are doing massive damage on me.

They are just OP. How do you even beat them 1v1? I run a spirit ranger and it’s just impossible to beat this petting zoo build. All they do is just stand there and let their minions deplete your hp and you can’t do anything about it.

I gave up. I decided not to deal with them 1v1. It’s frustrating and degrading.. How can 1 class be that OP? Warriors are even more manageable 1v1.

Nerfbat is the only solution that I can think of.

QueenHysteria.1084:

Rangers are terrible for PVP . They are good at however PVE! When I play WvsW I just sneak around and capture supply camps and whatever else is needed on the map. You can actually do a lot against the NPC’s just as long as you don’t pull too many at once. As far as fighting other players just pick a different class. Ranger is not a PVP class its’ a support class.

You could put up your bow and run around looking like an idiot with a great sword until you realize your no warrior when a real warrior slices through your soft armor. I’ve spent time talking to a lot of rangers and playing with them and despite what they think or say they ALWAYS go down a lot faster than the other classes do no matter what armor and trait list they use (I refuse to call anything in this cookie cutter game a BUILD). Ranger is a “Ranged” class and distance is your friend. Unless you want to spend your time in WvsW playing a support role you probably would find another class more suitable.

If you’re planning on being a menace to other players and want to solo WvsW pick a thief. Then you can scout and ambush people and help your team. If you want to be front line in battles pick a guardian or a warrior. The other classes I didn’t mention are good for all the above also. But seriously I have never seen anything good happen to rangers in WvsW when going head to head with other classes.

you obviously have no idea how to run a ranger in pvp. try rolling a spirit build, other classes might even run just by the sight of you. rangers are monsters in pvp. we have evasion, toughness, condition stacking and damage and with the spirit res we can even carry a bad team to victory. learn more before you diss the ranger class.

Qoltera.3042:

Warrior isn’t the only class with op builds. I agree with them being strong, but what about those blind spamming guardians or stealth spamming thieves or spirit rangers or bunker engis? This game is as closed to being balanced as it can be but even so op builds will exist

Nothing can come close to a warrior when it comes to “OP-ness”.

Guardians OP? Thieves OP? this is hilarious.

i run a soldier spirit build with fighter runes to buff damage. this is much effective because it takes faster to kill someone rather than relying on condition damage the whole time.

rangers are second to warrior in pvp. rangers bring excellent support in team fight and the res spirit is just amazing.

warriors are the new rodents in pvp. i just hope game mods would start to notice that.

i took down a warrior once and he got to rez himself with a healing signet in 1 sec (not a berserker rez because it’s not that instant).

that is so broken.

play a spirit ranger. tough and powerful without the guilt of being OP. it’s much balanced than warriors and necros. (if you see a minion nec just steer clear but a warrior can be manageable as long as it’s just 1v1.)

warriors destroy the game. if anything that should be complained about there’s nothing but OP warriors. nobody likes them at all.

run a spirit build in pvp and tell me if it’s not viable. you can almost kill any class with it.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVTjIVl1dVOVg2BiVB90eMJJde3jSRqTlxSpgLD-TwAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNEZJyJgXAA

use this build. just experiment on the trait skills., some of them are no longer viable because of the stun-spamming warriors.

i doubt that a lot of rangers will use Sic em just to counter 1 class or two. It’s a complete waste of skill slot. i run a spirit build and I couldnt afford to sacrifice one spirit just to give way for ’Sic Em.

Currently, a thief is the least of a ranger’s issue but with that buff that thieves will have, a ranger will be underpowered for sure. Sic Em reveal is a big joke.

i played all types of build for a ranger. it’s the same amount of skills that takes to play them. no difference. if you are saying that you play better because you run a squishy build, you are deceiving yourself.

it’s all the same # of skill slots that you get just different tactics.

Draygo.9473:

Uh, from what I understand here utility/elite resses are untouched (still rally up to 5 people). If anything this is a buff to those utilities and elites because they are now more necessary.

i got you. i’m sorry i just got confused a bit.

yeah! this is a great idea. if ill be able to resurrect 3 players from my team i get to kill the same # of downed players from the other team too. this is fantastic.

IMPLEMENT THIS!

what’s the purpose of a ranger’s elite skill if this was implented, might as well delete that skill altogether. we put effort to rush to our team to rez them with our elite spirit.

implementing this will be a huge nerf for rangers.

i ran power build too. it was awesome. you can get a lot of kills running it. i only used it in hotjoin though. i dont feel like running that build in tpvp because i want to bring support to my team so i just run a spirit build.

Eurantien.4632:

Apparently some dude played power ranger and is now top 3.

are you pertaining to yourself?

this is my handsome pvp ranger “Prince Valentine”.

A wolf doesnt deal much damage while a lynx can deal 3k damage with f2. GS is too slow and you need to be really close with your opponent to deal damage while SB has evade poison and stun. The point of using sb is to evade a warrior’s stun at most.

How can you counter a warrior stun if you cant keep a decent distance from it besides GS attacks can be easily evaded. I find using GS and sword only effective destroying a treb. SB and LB are the best weapons to use assaulting a warrior defending a cap point. They all act like a guardian defending a cap alone.

I use the falling damage trait to escape an outnumbered fight that needs me to jump off a high place (Spirit Watch, Forest of Niflhel, Skyhammer).

With this build, my heal is 0 that forces me use Heal as One. I pretty much own warriors with this build because it can deal a fair amount of damage and be tanky at the same time. Using shaman amulet will bring down a spirit ranger’s damage extremely low. Stacking conditions requires positioning and you really cant do that a lot when you are forced to a 1v1 battle.

This build worked for me.

I will still consider your suggestion. My build is already tough to beat but maybe adjusting my traits and weapons can make me more effective. Thank you.

This is a pvp build I created. It does really well with 1v1 and team support.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVTjIVl1dVOVg2BiVB90eMJJde3jSRqTlxSpgLD-TwAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNEZJyJgXAA

jmatb.6307:

I’m pretty sure you haven’t been playing good warriors if you’re a Ranger main and you think that.

I can see a Mace/Shield Hammer Warrior build dominating whatever a Ranger tries to do

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVTjIVl1dVOVg2BiVB90eMJJde3jSRqTlxSpgLD-TwAA1CtI2StlbLzWytsbNEZJyJgXAA

this is my spirit build, do you think this is a bit too strong? i can beat most warriors 1v1.

they can beat me if they attacked me by surprise but it’s not that often that it happens. I just use barrage, knockback then use rapid shot after. once they are at a close range i switch to shorbow, sb3 sb2 spam a bit sb1 dodge, F2 with my pet. daze them, poison them again once their hp is almost empty and sb1 again until they die.

i use my spirits too. they can immobilize a warrior and burst damage once they were able to close the gap between us. it’s really not that hard.

all it takes is good mobility to kill them. it doesnt take that long to beat a warrior compared to fighting a guardian 1v1. fighting a guardian is a lot more pain-staking, IMO.

if you cant beat a warrior you must be really bad or the warrior’s skills are just way out of your league.

A good player can counter any class. But there are times that I think maybe my build is just too strong or I’m really getting better. I think I’m just getting better as I gain more experience playing pvp. Although, I find necros really hard to deal with 1v1.

it’s ok when you see 1 ele on your team but if there are 3 of them, you just know what’s gonna happen. lol

they should know this before they join soloq. this is just irritating.

is the ranger the only class that can beat a warrior?

i’m really confused about this whining about warriors being OP.

i think warriors are perfectly balanced. for sure, they need to stun people because they do close-combats most of the time and they also need to be tanky because of that.

tbh, i find guardians harder to deal with 1v1. maybe guardians need to be nerfed.

ahuba.6430:

Valentin.2073:

I agree. Dropping turrets and spamming grenades is really fun and takes more skills.

You need to stop deceiving people including yourself. Seriously.

because everyone uses turrets amirite or amirite

if you think it takes more skill because you run a different class is just wrong. We all have the same 11 skill slots and you have the option to choose active skills or passive skills.

A spirit ranger sacrifices all 4 slots for his spirits to gain buffs and protection. You might think it’s a brainless build but as soon as the spirits die, then evasion comes into play.

Seriously, you need to try this build for you to understand. I don’t see the reason for all this hatred towards rangers calling us petting zoo and walking salad. That’s just not fair.

I agree. Dropping turrets and spamming grenades is really fun and takes more skills.

You need to stop deceiving people including yourself. Seriously.

ahuba.6430:

If you wan’t to keep yourself busy till wildstar, I don’t think you will enjoy playing ranger. It has 0 challenge and is hated by the community because of how faceroll it is. Also, longbow and shortbow are not the best weapon sets for rangers.

You will find out that staying at range won’t get you any close to killing people. Most of times you will be switching from ranged to melee. Like Pistol/Shield Engies, even though they have a pistol, most of the time they’re at melee range. Greatsword Mesmers have to go into melee range aswell. So if you’re looking for pure ranged play, you wont find it successful here.

That said, i think the most entertaining class to play is engineer. It’s the most unique and has a gameplay that you won’t find in any mmo out there. If you do end up trying to play engineer, I’d recommend you watch Ostrich Eggs’ stream on twitch.tv

i just noticed that you keep dissing rangers on your posts.

shagmooth, do not listen to this guy. His opinion is just biased because of his apparent insecurity with rangers.

Run a ranger and enjoy. ^^,

you only gain rank in pvp. exp can be gained in pve and wvw.

swordbreaker.5189:

Spirit Ranger:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-FV-F3;0wEFx-n2wDk-0;9k2a;19-TT-2;336A36A;1E;03U;1jwmAjwmA1Fe
Condi Necro:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;044Z;1kHFC084oJkJ0;9;4TJ;0J49A38;528-EJG4;2hoHAhoHA2VU

Then you have the mid range Classes like Ele or Engi but these two are atm not viable in competitive play but fine when you only want to play Hot Join.

You can use Rune of the fighter and Soldier Amulet instead if you wish to roll a Spirit Build. it has better damage and much larger hp. Stacking conditions is a bit boring and it takes really long before you can kill someone.

Ranger is the best for you. It is good in ranged attack with their longbows and has a lot of mobility when it comes to a 1v1 fight using the shortbow.

There are so many builds that you can choose and most of them are viable in pvp. You can choose Power Build with Signets, Trap build or a Spirit build.

I experienced this as well. At the start we were 5. 1 got disconnected before he was able to move out of base. (He said he got disconnected due to bad connection). Our team was left with only 4 toons: Guardian, Warrior, Ranger and a Mes.

We put the Guardian and Mes on one point and the Warrior on another. The ranger does a 1v1 when he gets the chance, win and goes back to the Warrior to assist him if he’s getting ganked. Res spirit is just awesome.

Our score was like 500-300. Map was Foefire. No killing of lord just kept 2 caps the whole game.

aleks.5473:

PAHAHAHA
I haven’t laugh so much in some time
Warrior not op lol are we paying a different game!
Constant stun is not op !
Well this comes from another OP class RANGAR – maybe for you they are not or you fight bad warriors. A ranger got so many evades you can simply spam them and wait for your condis to wear him off, not to mention cc from pet blind/immobilize from spirits and so on.
My champ hunter was the easiest champ title I got ever from 200 t games I won 160-170

I dont find my class OP. Other classes are UP, that’s a better way to put it.

I think eles are too squishy, so Anet needs to do so something about that. Engi needs some enhancements too and the rest are just ok and balanced.

A ranger is a good counter for a warrior but a ranger can easily get owned by a necro. I’m sure it works the same way with other classes too. A thief can kill a warrior but it’s gonna be hard for a thief to beat a guardian.

You can’t expect to be able to beat everyone. If you are able to do that, then you need to get nerfed.

warriors aren’t OP. you just need to dodge their stuns. they are balanced IMO.

necs are tougher to beat than warriors.

i main a ranger btw.

i hate to burst your bubble but a dagger is not that useful on a ranger in pvp. shortbows, longbows and swords are the best weapons to use.

i can say that a ranger is really good in pvp. i’m not sure if they are any good in pve but they seem to work well with their pets tanking for them.

i like running a spirit build because it is the best counter for warriors 1v1. A thief has to use it’s stealth a lot to be successful in pvp. A ranger can deal with them without much effort.

A lof of people make fun of it. They say it’s OP and takes no skill and that it should be nerfed. There’s just so much hate towards rangers who run this build.

I love running this build because of the support it can give to my team but the mean comments make me think to use other builds instead.

1. Legacy of the Foefire forever….
2. Forest of Niflhel
3. Battle of Khylo
4. Temple of the Silent Storm
5. Raid on the Capricord
6. Spirit Watch
7. Skyhammer

I can play any ranger build but I’m best with the spirit build. Just pm IG: Prince Valentine.

A ranger, a guardian, an engi, a mes and an ele. Just had this team earlier and the other team just didnt stand a chance.

Seriously, you need 3 tanky classes/build (guardian, nec, warrior, ranger) and 2 damage classes/build (ele, mes, engi, thief).