Guild Wars 2

Top end player means playing cancer builds with stacked overpowered elites and using cheese.

ronpierce.2760:

Getting a team should not be the answer to how to get better and go further in “Rated” pvp… Come on now… Why do you people even want competition at all… Just put quarters in a machine and get something from a slot machine.

I do sympathize with the few who unfortunately got tanked rating, but I’m betting that’s less than people think. I think more so, this just showed where people really were as far as MMR goes, now that no one is being teamed with them to carry their slack, in more cases than not.

I dont think it’s less honesltly when I look around in the lobby most the players I see are either amber or emerald.

ya people keep saying that it will fix it self as the season fleshes out but, that assumes people right now who are losing are where they are supposed to be, because they are bad but in a lot of cases what I am hearing from people is it is because anet is making them lose.

And so what if eventually the season fleshes them selfs out thier MMR will be so damaged from aNEt making them lose that they will never move to where they should be.

Forcing people to lose by intentionally putting them on teams with bad players isn’t a great idea. And one people get on a lose streak MMR will tank to un recoverable.

People keep saying anet delivered what people asked for, but people never asked for the system to work like this. People asked for competitive matches and not to be paired with bad players on their team.

This system is bad because, I had decent MMR before the season and got to Sapphire quickly. Then got really un lucky a couple of games with bad team mates that I couldn’t carry. Now every game to every other game is a loss. And there is no way I can climb because I keep getting the worst team mates who are totally clueless and bad on my teams now.

It’s about randomly putting players on your team that need to get carried in order to average out your teams total MMR. Don’t tell me that it’s not how it works because I know when someone on my team has 0 points they obviously don’t belong on my team.

Points don’t matter but when you have 0 points that means something it means that person did literally nothing when they were not AFK.

^ except it doesn’t work that way. And ANET forced most players into a 50/50 win ratio.

Cynz.9437:

Rolisteel.1375:

There are very good and dangerous players out there that playing warrior or thief at sapphire/ruby. It’s a lot about if someone skilled or don’t have skill for the class/game.

Given same skill level no scrapper or rev should lose to thief/war.

Yep except if player playing rev or scrapper has no skill the thief or warrior still has to try twice as hard as them.

New players should never start with good MMR. If you are new it’s impossible that you are skilled so How can you say its based on equal skill.

Simply put if you are new or bad you should just simply not be allowed to progress. I am sorry but that seems fair in reality.

you are not going to put a half blind grandma in a racecar in a professional race just because she has no tickets because the fastest she ever drives is 20 and to the grocery store.

Thats essentially what anet is doing. Look this grandma has low insurance and no violations she must be skilled. NO..

Day 3 sapphire T1 I think I might wait for the weekday to continue all the fair weather bads are out today.

“insert tears or salt here”

Stop over buffing OP specs just because no one is complaining about them being OP.

Seriously AN if you need people to complain about something to determine if something is too strong or not it tells us 3 things.

A. You don’t think at all what a skills impact will have when you code it.

B. You do think but its totally wrong because you don’t play your own game.

C. You don’t listen to Q and A and testers at all when they tell you something you have done is bad.

Search and Rescue is really just an example. It’s so absurd that if we asked you to give warrior battle standard a 36 cool down you would say no. Or any other professions res skill which are all on 3 min CDs.. When warrior isn’t even viable yet Druid is really great right now.

Pls ANET you need to stop doing stuff like this and by the time you wake up and realize that you are wrong and we are right game will be dead.

The -83 chill really works vs heavy reaper comp try it. If you want to run rampage its 100+

Day 1 through amber in almost 2 hours into T2 Emerald.
Day 2 through emerald in about 3 hours of actually playing, not including breaks.
Day 2 Sapphire in 2 days yep easy peasy.

Build.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAVhgdhAmkCElilqATpHE7yBvj2W7sFpA0ACAA-TpBCABYcQAc4CA4eZgY2fAgjAADPAAA

Also I been experimenting with rune of Svarnir+Dogged March when I F12 and see 2 or more Reapers. Seems pretty anti reaper. -83% Chill duration.

In sapphire took me about 2 afternoons to get there and not non stop playing.

I deleted the necro I just needed the achievement.

I needed the multi class achievement and thought that amber was the best time to complete it. Better to play other classes that I wasn’t good with when there is no penalty for losing.

Long story short. I never played necro before and had no idea what I was doing. Created a reaper and copy and pasted a build off metabattle. Went through amber in little over an hour from start to finish over 2 win streaks. All I did was just spam and press buttons.

So if you are having a problem getting out of amber try that it was very easy. Just spam thats it doesn’t matter what buttons you push. Make sure to turn on snap cast.

kdaddy.5431:

Its funny you post this because every other post is about how people cant win games.

Yep because its already not easy enough. That will be the next step of dumbing it down to hello kitty level.

Skilless Elites with copy paste builds. Any beginner can just purchase the game push buttons and win with no clue as to what they are doing. Congratulations AN you finally caved.

runeblade.7514:

Warlord.9074:

good warriors don’t use meta battle. Bad ones should just go play rev. Warrior is too hard to play right now for people that need to copy builds. Thats honestly how I feel about it. Seriously and it’s not to be mean.

Those Good Warriors should submit their build to Metabattle then.

If I just tell you that 6 of 9 your traits are mandatory and they exist in defense and discipline tree exactly how hard can it be its not rocket science.

What I wrote makes perfect since if you can play warrior half way decently. Warrior has no tricks. You survive and win on things like positioning, dodging, faking out the enemy. Every skill you have is super telegraphed and slow. you have no sustain outside 4 seconds of endure pain unless you use a shield. Literally all you have is your body.

So when I say good warriors don’t need meta battle I mean it. You need to have in depth knowledge of game mechanics and decent motor skills to play the warrior right now. No build is going to carry you like on other classes.

cleric amulet has no dps. power without precision and crit damage is useless and the power portion of clerics is minor to the other stats. It’s weak.

good warriors don’t use meta battle. Bad ones should just go play rev. Warrior is too hard to play right now for people that need to copy builds. Thats honestly how I feel about it. Seriously and it’s not to be mean.

I think the druid staff does too much damage, on a non offensive amulet. If the ele would of wore a menders amulet too I think it would be a lot more obvious.

Pretty bad comparison. This is why its OP. its a 36 second cool down traited. Every other profession res skills are 2-3 minutes and none of them are as good. Except warrior banner and it has like a 3 minute recharge. Which arguable is better and not as good as teleporting someone away.

Should be compared to other res skills.

Sigent of Mercy
Cast time 3 3/4
CD 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

Glyph of Renewal
3 1/4 cast time 165 CD

Illusion of Life Doesn’t fully revive even. Its like Vengance. and its bugged.
1 1/4 cast 120 CD

Signet of Undeath
3 sec cast 3 minute CD

It’s OP ok. Don’t try to make threads and twist it.

OP is a disgruntled Mesmer creates thread about how she got ripped off because the elite got nerfed and isn’t as OP anymore. Makes a bunch of false claims based on her opinion that isn’t that well informed, or biased because Mesmer isn’t OP. Has no idea what its like to play a warrior who never even had a good elite and still it isnt good.

Sword?
I understand but Rev sword Autos hit way harder than warrior sword AUTOs even if the warrior is Viper. Revs sword 3 is also better than warrior sword 3.

Where I think sword could be buffed is on the 3rd auto while leaving the 1st 2 alone.

Longbow?
I am mostly fine with this weapon but I think the Auto shoots too slow on it. Simply an opponent strafing is enough to make both arrows of this attack to miss. I think the blind cool down on the weapon could be reduced giving warrior more blind up time with it. That skill doesn’t even do damage.

I think the scortched earth should have a max of 10 targets not 5 given how huge it is. It’s so big and only hits 5 and after the nerf it seems kinda pointless.

Warriors are still trash because besides burst skill most of all of warrior weapon skills are trash and I don’t mean they don’t do dammage. I mean thats all they do and only a couple of them do good dammage. The rest either just do low dammage, and they’re slow or don’t work right at even doing damage or closing gaps.

The issue isn’t dammage the issue is asside from a couple non burst skills warriors skills in general are garbage compared to what other classes got.

Last issue is the sustain is not there besides 4 secs of endure pain and a shield blob that is useless half the time do to unblockables.

LordOtto.2650:

Atm the biggest problem is that condi reaper wasn’t so good in season 1, and now ppl aren’t build up to counter it,

This is backwards. People were built up to counter it in season one thats why it wasn’t an issue. The changes in the latest patch highly favor reapers.

Just becasuse a reaper can be beatin doesn’t mean its balanced because its too easy to do well on a reaper currently compared to the amount of effort it takes to bring one down.

issue with night capping has always been the players who play those hours coalesce on the same servers as a way to ktrain. They litterally do not play the same game as the rest of us. For them its more of a gold farm.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

Longbow weak? Nonsense xd

http://youtu.be/d-rAzrly4Yw

WvW is not Spvp and you struggled hard despite winning. The bow made you struggle. Also 1v1s don’t mean anything especially vs wvw players who are generally bad but think they are good. Lastly shout heal condi warrior is a strong build but its also a very weak build in terms of offense. You pretty much have to hope your opponent has no sustain, does, low damage and makes a ton of mistakes to win.

Maxodon.5243:

Today some warrior main told me that warrior is stronger than Revenant, I wouldn’t believe everything someone tells you.

Not true but any more nerfs to rev especially damage it might be true.

It’s a feature. Fixing it would buff druid more.

ele still want to be OP.

Exedore.6320:

Profession stacking isn’t the problem; Overpowered builds are.

The only reason you see profession stacking is because there’s a handful of builds which are leaps and bounds more powerful than anything else. It’s inexcusable that blatantly overpowered builds have been left alone for so long.

ANET doesn’t know this though.

No that build doesn’t work. When people can prove to me that CI isn’t mandatory in the current meta I’ll take any build I see without it seriously.

It’s also the same with normal burst skills.

Im saying life steal is really strong and you are not using it, but you are instead relying on stacking tons of toughness. You can remove some toughness and replace it with berserker. Use life steal to compensate.

try stacking sigil of blood with omnomberry pie. You will be amazed. If you want to delve deeper in life steal

Sigil of draining Steals 1023 health on interrup No ICD
Sigil of blood 453 HP on crit 5 sec CD
Omn Pie 325 HP on Crit 2 sec CD
Leeching 975 HP on swap and hit 9 Sec CD

Lets pretend a 20 sec sample You are going to swap to Axe set at least twice
975 + 975HP 1950
Lets say you proc Omn pie every 2 to 4 seconds. 1300 to 3250. Lets say 1600 HP to be generous.
Sigil of blood lets say you can proc this 4 times in 20 seconds. 1812 HP

5325 additional healing in 20 seconds.
Banner regen 2730
See how much more you are getting from life steal over banner regen.
5325+2730=8055 self sustained additional healing.
Healing sig 7640

So with my setup you heal for more than healing sig with life steal and banner regen.

If you want more damage start by switching your weapons and amulet to berserker and see if you can survive on my setup with life steal.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJIQNApXRjMdQXIW4B2eAdIGKCqMI+hnX7imILsB4BCAA-TRSBQBT4JAgJ1fuiyAOcCAgkSQAcIAM4+DcRpHe0HEAABIJWiTMwQH6QH6JHa3co78m3cnlCoctWA-e

It’s not 33%-40% more damage thats what we are trying to tell you.. It’s more like 10-15.. And that is only when measuring strongest possible hit vs possible strongest hit. Thats not even measuring all the other hits. Nobody decent is going to stand there and let you stack might on them with a GS its not PVE so you need to get the whole might stack thing out of your head too.

Last time anyone did that was Bullls charge Frenzy 100b at game launch then come cry on the forum warrior OP.

Anything can work and be OP in duels. If you can press F12 and you are going up against 5 non condi classes than you can make any adjustment. Just right now from my experience every match I am in there is at least 2 condi Necros. Take one look at my bar and I have 10 condis on me.

Best build to me means the build thats going to work on average as good in most situations. If I could pick and choose my opponents it would be another thing. Any build without CI in the current meta is not viable. The META is condi spam aids cancer. If its not condi necros it’s condi engis, mesmers, and thiefs. At least in unranked.

I like how ele complain so much warrior here.

You underestimate the power of life steal.

so use your arah tokens to buy some berserker gear. And play the auction house to get cheap mats and craft the rest.

Pyriall.1683:

Mercenary amulet with mace/shield, hammer, with distracting strikes and body blow is far stronger. Hybrid condi-burst with chain cc and 3-4k crits on hammer. With berserker stance, signet of stamina, and lyssa runes you shut down necros in team fights.

To each their own. From my experience a build with no mobility is not good build at all. Hammer Berserker Burst skill is garbage and lyssa runes are trash.

I know one of the karma vendors in Orr sells exotic berserker. You can buy it with wvw badges also.

I think condi warrior for open world might still be a thing. Other than that just the normal berserker warrior build with GS Axe/x with some stances.

It’s because its not a new idea. Before the crit dammage nerf older warriors can attest to this stacking cavaliers with the old unsuspecting foe before they moved that trait and before when u could just put 10 points in a trait like 4-5k armor was a thing.

That was the old Cav, skull cracker build. People also used to use intelligence and Eviscerate under full cav would still hit like a truck and you didnt lose your adrinaline when u missed or left combat. Under full cav you could hit as hard as full berserker now.

ALso condis were not really an issue back then, this was before condis got buffed so hard. At one time this was an OP idea. It’s dead now. Also stop trolling our forum op.

After the crit dammage nerf power is better than stacking ferocity on low power stat gear.

Glad to help the warrior community. Since ANET won’t help. I kinda regret now posting the build because whenever I face a half way decent team with a half way decent warrior on it running this build it wrecks my pug teams.

Do you have karma? Or dungeon tokens? Or WvW Tokens? Do you have any ascended accessory?

I was responding to the guy above me who said isn’t it 10X better? I said no its at least 2X better. You can use burst skills twice as much, which amounts to more Damage and utility..

War vs War im not in agreement that Base beats berserker. I’m only in agreement that base hits a little harder. Berserker has more stun breaks, more stability, more sustain, more CC. Since CC is one of those things that can be esential in setting up bursts its a no brainer who wins here on paper.

stun lock and poisen during astral form. Relfects when they whip out long bow. Use invulns and stun breaks. And yah you Beat beat one but the pet is over tuned if you dont negate the pets dammage it could be GG.