Guild Wars 2

my warrior is stuck in metrica province load screen but my other chars load instant

tryed deleting the .dat file in my documents to no avail

I am the lil Asuran [VoTF]Thief – we thought in EB after you killed my warrior friend.

I have not had a challenge like that in, well, ever.

I want more please

The counter to my build is a cond removal guardian such as yours, but you have skills like no other.

I need to get you in some closed duels

If your interested mail me in game. I try to visit these forums as little as I can

Thanks!!!

dear vizuna

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yours respectfully

ha

VZ have candians. Just because they arent in the Teamspeak server, doesnt mean you dont have them….

Even servers that use one language carry immigrants.

FR – French Canadians
ES – Spanish Americans

Anyway – im leaving these forums, place is a joke repeating itself

one night the germans will night cap, the next the french, the next SFR, and so the threads carry on and on and on……

One server will have a good week, the other a bad, the excuses come out

arguments on the internet…… think about it

Im australian, when i get night capped on SFR, its actually because of the prime time people before me

everyone has thier own night cap times in these forums, making info really inconsistant

as far as the EU ladder is concerned and the shape of the globe – if you include east russia to western europe (Denmarkfor instance)… the time zone coverage amounts up to more than americans could cover in the NA ladder (or an american guild on offpeak duty)

the funny thing is when VS capped everything and we fell 2nd place SFR woke up. It was like throwing a stone at a bees nest

I would assume we were taking it easy (The majority of the server) because we thought you had given up in the early stages

thanks for the badges and the fights!!

close battles are much more fun

and kudo to the french for taking some sort of no sleeping drug. I cant say theres any server that dedicated to keep up all those hours

This is our tank build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlcmKP3dS5E+5EBXhk69gsdNsdP4qV1KA;T8AgyyuEcJ5S1liLKfMwIgxOjzH5MLRGMMDA

(COPY AND PASTE LINK TO MAKE IT WORK)

caltrops, signet of malace, death blossom, roll for inititive and steal for more inititive

much much ini regen

regain ini
steal ini
spend ini
heal in spending ini (death blossom+assassins reward+signet of malice)
dodge on spending ini (death blossom)
heal on doing damage (caltrops+death blossom+assassins reward+signet of malice)
heal to get ini (activate signet of malice)

massive hp

go all night long

some caltrops, kiting, dodging in the middle will mean you can do this pretty much forever, just not spamming it (you have to be clever with it)

you could say to be the ultimate survivor use stealth, but that isnt really a tanky build

dodging/kiting/evading is the only way to tank damage without loosing agro via stealth

daggerstorm + signet of malice is a great way to heal on a bunch of mobs and gives 8 seconds of not using inititive giving it time to fully regen

ive listed sigil, armour, runes (pay close attention to the runes) and weapons in the build editor

stealth only really hurts the glass cannon baddies

pro bunkers/glass cannons have no issue with it

the game is balanced

glass cannons die quick, thiefs deal quick, and stealth always allows you to get the jump

of course there is always some baddie with 3000000k armour complaining about taking damage when his dodges are spent and his CC are all on cooldown then asks for a nerf as his armour didnt mitigate the damage all on its own.

the 50% speed in stealth trait from the acrobatics line will discourage the usual glass build of 25/30/0/0/15

50% speed is a big number to miss out on

people are still playing with it tho

expect more hybrids to suit your play style soon

Shizzlenit.7648:

Depends on what you want to play.

If D/D, 10 / 30 / 30 / 0 / 0 with full Valkyrie is by far the best backstab build there is.

I did try this with hidden killer ages ago and was a bit meh about it. Its like a backstab build that wants to draw out a fight. I just couldnt get into it

backstab should end the fight, not find survival to make it last longer

just my thought on it, overall i preffered the numbers from the valkrye build over the standard 25/30/0/0/15 build, but it just didnt work out in the play

a build is a build and everyone has thier own

but if you do some number crunching and want to get serious about it and WvW/PvE/sPvP, this is not a build those types of players will pickup

the amount of complaining on every single patch,fix,nerf,update,event,change, bug or additional content makes these forums a horrible place to be

people will complain about anything here

look at it this way

would you use backstab on a condition thief

well why would you use sneak attack on a crit thief then?

i use them in WvW and everywhere esle

If you caltrops someone and go stealth taking the 50% speed in stealth bonus trait you are effectively 100% faster than anyone

massive radius, 10sec cripple if you touch it with your toe, enough to blow a utility on removing the cripple and by the time it runs out its halfway cooled down

I love caltrops

Great for choke points and getting melee characters to move away from you.

They are only a defensive tool however and can create a scenario where you create your own terms of engagment (by standing in your own caltrops testing to see if anyone is stupid enough to come at you)

You can use them offensivley or to dictate where people dont stand on the battlefield, but you gotta be smart at placing them. Just spamming them when they are up is not going to change anything

be smart with them and they are amazing

Twinklefairy.6739:

Webley.1295:

Ive been on SFR since day one. I had fought the masses of the xaoc night cappers when our offpeak was at about 40 people across all bg all spread out

That’s funny because you’ve also posted this:
“Ive played on EBay and moved back to Sea Farers Rest [EU]
I loved the way EBay played. If they moved over to SFR we would be good to go to T1”

That is all.

What kind of people do a dig on peoples post. Now thats trolling to a whole new level

I went to a few servers for a couple of days as i wanted to feel the US servers as I play from Australia. Didnt like it after a few days (but loved the way they played in general) and went back to my friends on SFR

nice try troll. how sad do you look now for routing through someones posts?

saVdoom.2067:

Ianervan.3415:

Webley.1295:

We always used to beat you prime time.

SFR always liked myths and this is one of them posted regularly. Blacktide beat SFR in prime time. Check the history on that French website if you need.

Checked: http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/9/5

SFR seem to win during EU-prime time 5 out of 7 days. As you can see at around 2-4 am is when BT starts getting a huge amount of points.

Thanks dude for linking up the same facts which I was referring to

That [CIR] guy thinks he is like the voice of blacktide or somthing and rates his posts above everyone elses like he has some sort of repertoire with the BT players

He seems to just linger in the forums waiting for the next post to troll

Boomstin.3460:

Webley.1295:

I am happy to now be playing in T1 where people know how to counter my thief

Ok, so when people transfer to top tier they get the ability to kill thiefs. And when they transfer to lower tiers they lose it. Makes sense.

It means im playing with people who know what they are doing

Ianervan.3415:

Webley.1295:

SFR always liked myths and this is one of them posted regularly. Blacktide beat SFR in prime time. Check the history on that French website if you need.
Myth #2.. prime time. There is no such thing. SFR once beat BT during “prime time” months and months ago, when BT had zero players at that hour. I think just about any EU server would have beat BT at “prime time” back then.

WvW is pretty much a game of numbers and off-time battles. If your server is better at that you’ll win. Not because you’re more skilled. Also, prime time is the least important time for winning WvW.

I can’t believe after few months of WvW people are still feeling “proud” their server beat someone.

Sorry my mistake, BT are the best and always will be. When they beat everyone it was a really good fight and they were skilled, but when they loose its because they didnt have enough numbers. KK thanks. Got it.

I am happy to now be playing in T1 where people know how to counter my thief

so you want us to watch your video then compare it to kill bill when there is no duel between you at all?

great try

trying to ride off the fame of another player….

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Nice fights so far.

And why is SFR winning? Simple they got the biggest armies. And they all have hardcore wvw professions (thief, bunker warrior, bunker ele, bunker guard, pet tank ranger, all the usual ‘i wan’t the easiest profession to kill ppl in wvw’ choices). And SFR has the same playstyle as vizunah. “Always move in a zerg”.

In the 60+ zergs we couldnt beat you guys. (don’t care, we were only 40, and smashes 9 bodies on the ground), in small fight (the few that happen after zerg scatter), you guys lost most of the time.

Basically SFR is the most populated wvw server. Once boredom kicks in (Blacktide was leading, now they are down because lot of people bored).

And maybe SFR wins for the coming two months But after that everyone will hate t1, and even SFR will be bored (no enemies, no fight, and that’s what a 500 vs 300 man situation server causes).

Anyway for now (weekend) we are holding our own. In the week i’m sure we will be crushed, but I don’t care. Only EB matters to me, borderlands are boring (run run run, crap overzerged, run run run, crap overzerged, maybe a few supply caps but that’s it – taking keep after keep (or tower) is way more fun in EB). And if i only count EB score, SFR is loosing quite heavy. They manage to rush the battlefield, but after that they get crushed themself. Good to see ‘zerg only’-hardcore wvw servers, still make mistakes. And when you make your next SFR, i’ll be there to defeat you. (300 kills today, the more the better).

same old speech from a player who thinks he is better than everyone else. You havent even seen how we move yet. Its still the weekend. We are a different ball game in the week days as only the part time players do WvW on weekends

SFR had been ramping itself up for what we were told would be an epic battle between the best of the best. All i find by those who give a damn about the qq boards is excuses so far

Maybe SFR had over estimated its opponents

Ive been on SFR since day one. I had fought the masses of the xaoc night cappers when our offpeak was at about 40 people across all bg all spread out

We always used to beat you prime time. Now we can beat you primetime and night time. And after that night capping you did to us in that tier, I will do my best to get all the folk i know to go super hard on BT because of it

try tpvp if you want personal . I really dont see an issue.

this is still a new game

people have got to lower their expectations about turn around times around these forums

WvW hasnt had much love.

But when it does……

Kirito.8796:

Lol, try fighting thieves from a ranger’s POV. for the second or two you can actually target the thief, 50% of your arrows miss. Don’t even get the luxury to auto attack the air as the arrows go straight down while nothings targeted.

have you heard of weapon switch? try it one day, it will improve your skills

Move to deso or Blacktide as Seafarers will need a strong income of badges

people cant count to 4 and dodge/blind/immobilise/block/teleport/leap/trap/fear/daze/stun when the next perma-chained “cloak and dagger” is due. Thats what tops up stealth

its clear that when culling is fixed they will still complain

culling was fixed in spvp. if you cant kill a thief there you cant in WvW

simple

I seriously hope anet does not listen to all these trash ideas. TPvP is the top of the game. They only make changes based on what “GOOD” players are doing

I cant wait till the bads leave GW2 and leave us all alone to have good fights

Columba.9730:

The stealth in GW2 is hands down the worst implementation of stealth I’ve ever seen in any game.

Most other MMOS it has no time limit lol. With the rogue in WoW you just “turn it on”

GW2 is 4 secs and requires a noob to hit on with CnD to make it last

If a 4sec stealth lasts 5mins, your playing bad

Columba.9730:

Highest dps, permastealth, best mobility, decent ranged dng. What’s balanced about this? Thieves are in abject denial of god mode.

What needs fixing is peoples perception on thiefs

Highest DPS, Stealth and mobility. So thats a 30/30/30/30/30 build your talking about then. When can I spec like this? Because im limited.

And the OP is a warrior. Warriors, full glass cannon, invunrability and 20khp and massive leaps and good duration blocks, 6sec cooldowns. Yea ok. I rolled a warrior and laughed at the power compared to a thief

People need to learn to make proper pvp builds if they want to pvp and win

Heres my vid that i recorded last night. sorry for the quality in advance

just me on my thief

wanna do a JP in a place where you dont get killed? Dont enter the JP in WvW. There are plenty of others around the world

Not looking forward to T1 as it appears only good use of the clock will make you a winner. Time is worth more than skill and SFR tends to take it easy over the weekdays. Maybe less now than it did before. It does seem people are working hard round the clock in the last 2 weeks

If you come out on top after the weekend you knew it was because your server was better. After that its just consistancy of beating the 24/7 clock

However saying that…. There is no T2 threat for SFR to struggle against at present. The jump between T2 and T1 is fairly massive

I would prefer it if Deso double teamed us with BB to help us prepare for T1

Offski.4897:

Shame Seafarers dont seem to come on this thread much. You guys seem to prefer the self congratulation and flaming on your community page.

I think in general you guys are great but before you flame deso remember we have no queue’s other than on one border for maybe two hours in the evening due to so many of our players joining ruin and then leaving with them.

You have had many guilds join you recently and have huge numbers so rather than flaming us, show some respect to the guilds who have stuck with desolation and not taken the easy path of a server transfer when times are hard.

Please dont refer to ques etc and being outmanned. It does have something to do with it but look at the history. Last time Deso met with SFR, the sailors won, and we were a medium server and you were a high server.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/3

When SFR was out last night in ER borderlands a mesmer reported to us a portal was available. We asked him how he managed to make it and told everyone in team speak not to use it

Those who entered the portal then drew back and left without fighting

We stopped 30 people right off the bat from hoping in and reported him for exploiting and told him not to do it again

This mesmer wasnt hacking or flying, just abusing broken skills anet need to fix that allow you to get behind the defenses.

such a good matchup so far. And I had a feeling it would. Elona arent disappointing us. Deso are also pretty good during prime time (Alot better than i first thought)!.

Gotta say that the Sailors foot soldiers are something else at the moment tho. Its like they have been watching “300” before playing

Elona response times on counter siege is just superb on the Elona BG

T2 is amazing so far.

I hope it can stay like this for a very long time

I enjoy killing glass thieves and glass mesmers with my condition pistol/dagger/caltops thief

But what I really enjoy is fighting these classes among entire zergs when im on my own to prove a point. I usually down them but can never get the stomp due to the rezzing, but thats enough to leave and hide on a high note

The only reason why BT forum trolls are in this thread is because they took note that ANET wants WvW to be 24/7, the saw the advantages, and really went for hte perfect time coverage server. They have succeeded and well done to them. They are the winners. Of course they would have something to say to SFR when we want the same coverage as they did it better than anyone else and gloat about it often

However capping to 1st place via perfect time coverage is not really skill or a genius of siege use. Its just capping when the others dont have the man power to do the same. BT proved this

In my eyes though nobody needed to prove this. We all knew that capping when numbers were low was the way to win. So I dont have too much respect for BT coming 1st place by proving a theory correct. I have more respect for Elona and in my eyes, if we beat them we have beaten the best servers the EU has to offer.

We arent going to beat BT, and even if we did, thats still not beating the best.

In fairness to BT every server needs a little night cover, however BT took it to a whole new level where its more serious than just fun. When RUIN moved over I laughed inside for a second.

Again I dont want SFR to get to many night caps to the point where we are like BT. Beating Elona is what i look forward to. They are the true masters of the EU ladder

T1 = night cap / time zone coverage
T2 = the best of the EU

(The french are good but are backed by some Canadian guilds as they speak french. Elona are the best)

Brunners.7251:

Webley.1295:

Im looking forward for SFR to meet Deso again. We won last time (That was before you had ruin) and it looks like we will be meeting again in T2 and you will be again without them.

I loved the fights against IRON and GoD. I am really hopping on seeing them again as I saw them last time. If IRON or GoD arent there it wouldnt feel like a rematch with DESO, it would feel like just another server.

A word of warning though guys. SFR is on the rise I think. We should be sticking around T2 for a bit this time round.

Webley – SFR

We could still be going the other way, down to T3. Not sure whether we’re quite strong enough yet to stick around in T2, we’ll have to wait and see I suppose!

I just hope SFR realize Elona are the real threat and dont hit on you too hard. We shutdown Far Shiver Peaks pretty bad this week just because we’ve been fighting Riverside for ages in the same tier and wanted something new to fight. FSP to are suffering a few people moving around servers and such and we ended up juking with Riverside again

SFR is on the rise. Cant wait to get to T2 and not come 3rd

Im looking forward for SFR to meet Deso again. We won last time (That was before you had ruin) and it looks like we will be meeting again in T2 and you will be again without them.

I loved the fights against IRON and GoD. I am really hopping on seeing them again as I saw them last time. If IRON or GoD arent there it wouldnt feel like a rematch with DESO, it would feel like just another server.

A word of warning though guys. SFR is on the rise I think. We should be sticking around T2 for a bit this time round.

Webley – SFR

I would never want to see SFR turn into Blacktide 2

We all know the way to win is to night cap, I rather just prove we can get to T1 by just being good then hover in T2 while night caps live in T1 – but thats just me

there is a whole skill line called shadow arts. If I go 20 or 30 deep into it, I expect to be using stealth alot.

When you see a thief using stealth more than twice in a fight they likely have spent these points.

These points give no damage to the thief

Some of the suggestions in this thread make it completely worthless if they ever came to light

The way I see it…… Most MMO’s have a button that puts you in stealth for unlimited amounts of time until he has 100% the advantage. These stealth skills usually cost nothing

In GW2 there are many conditions required for stealth. some require initive and a hit on a target. some will give a cooldown on a utility, and others will require a combo field. Secondly it usually lasts for 4 secs!!!! Come on!!! 4 Seconds!!!!. If the thief is able to keep chaining a skill like this to make it seem like it lasts 5mins your simply getting out played

Either way if there is a requirement there is a counter or a pitfall.

90% of players can do better against thiefs if they study or play with the cloak and dagger skill. Understand this skill (And chaining it) and understand the MUG/Cloak and Dagger/Backstab/Basilisk Venom/Assassin signet combo and you will find that killing them is actually pretty easy. Its the same one trick pony being performed by 95% of thiefs out there

So far its been an easy week for SFR. I hope that we dont think T2 will be so easy. FSP has just given it away and Riverside show what a strong opponent can do to the map even without the 24hour coverage

I gotta say that the majority of SFR is not great with siege (Some of the big guilds use them wisely however), but I am a strong believer that our server has the best foot soldiers in the EU and we can achieve alot just by juking it out with a few rams or catas. Some foot soldiers on other servers always take a step back when the opposition takes a step forward, but SFR like going forward and will usually keep on going forward until they die. A true spartan attitude. Its great that there is that mentality in the SFR’s soldiers. I would put most of our wins down to our tough guys rather than to say it was due to brilliant siege tactics

When it comes to counter siege we still got a fair way to go to be T1 compliant. Im hoping we can keep our place in T2 next week for a few weeks

Fellknight.4820:

Webley.1295:

Just the MUG/Cloak and Dagger combo is broken

With MUG being slightly over powered

20% of the backstab damage comes from the executioner trait. MUG/C&D combo in its current form can get most people down to 50%

Execution and MUG needs toning own and the combo broken. The backstab can remain as is

-Thief

I cannot agree with you that any ability should reward a player for using such little skill or planning. I believe pvp should take skill.

As I stated in my post Heartseeker and Backstab are the two biggest problems so I find it odd that those would be the two your ok with.

What you proposed wouldn’t correct the problem in the slighest even if you removed executioner trait the baskstab still would have dealt 9k dmg. And cut the mug in half and it’s still 3k dmg dealing 12k dmg. It’s like shaving 20% off a nuclear bomb and hitting a single man with it, he’s still dead as a doornail.

I don’t think anyone who doesn’t play a thief dual dagger spec would agree with you either, but i understand your motivation in saying so.

backstab without stacking vun/signet/might in the current combo does closer to 6k without executioner on a heavy. 4k on a proper bunker guardian

Your numbers are way off to the ones I have. But niether off us have a video or a maths algorithm to back it up

All I have is 1 months of backstab thief experiance every day for about 2 hours a day

If you pop 2 signets and with the traits that stack might, you get 10might, add 3% from CnD vunerability and have over 6init you can hit a heavy golem for just over 9k on the backstab on avg.

You get 10% etxra damage for applying the poison on mug, 10% damage for having over 6init and 15% from assassins signet and 20% from executioner and 3% from hitting with cloak and dagger and around 10 might. Another 10% from Runes of Scholar for having over 90%hp. Thats how you stack up a backstab. If you break the combo these things will not stack long enough to apply to the backstab and it will do less damage

backstab requires stealth and positioning

the CnD/Steal/MUG combo requires no positioning, gives stealth, gives init, and gives 900range teleport, does more damage than the backstab itself if they both crit and all without executioner also applying a 3% vunerability. usually this takes a player down below 50% activating executioner so its 20% more effective and all the above damage stacks i mentioned above. Incomes the finishing backstab.

This combo is whats broken

but hey, haters gonna say i dont know anything until its pityful and not worth using

im trying to tell people it needs a nerf, but not as much people think as they dont really know the build well enough to make a well informed post

the build i refer to is 25/30/0/0/15 (This build runs at around 10-16.5k HP depending if you took valkrye or beserker gear or half half)

the amount of stacking which happens in the combo is OP.

take away all the stacking and just add CnD and it does around 6k, requires stealth and requires to be behind the target. Many if not all professions all have a skill that does 6kon a crit, doesnt require stealth, and doesnt requires to be behind the target

this is why BS is fine but the stacking % + combo + executioner is OP as thats what takes place in under 2 secs and gets you to under 50% hp before youve even been hit with a backstab

GoD and Iron and RUIN should come to SFR!! then T1 would be fixed!!

guardian with sword and hammer spirits/rifle warrior/mesmer/condition thief+Thieves guild/Burst thief+Thieves guild

Total of 5 players and 9 pets (A mini zerg)

If you time your pets at the right time (all at once over team speak), its amazing

People will start to run away as soon as they see the numbers double

you could trade the rifle warrior with a ranger, but that kill shot is amazing, and whilst people are confused with the amount of pets that appeared he gets time to pull it off once or twice.

You could also trade the warrior for an Ele or a second Mesmer

Or just make a group with 5x mesmers (15 pets and 5 players)

Each of these can remove conditions if traited. With the amount of pets youll have damage will not be an issue

Condition thief should take a caltrops
The burst thief should take scorpion wire to pull the ranged eles from the opposition into the mess to stop them kiting safely

You should kill 3 people (at least) for the time that the pets are active, leaving less to deal with when they are on CD

If its 5v5, I would say pets are key

roll of initiative is better than the signet for 1 init every 10 sec and provides a way to break immobilise/chill/slow/knowkdown and some others

it gives 6 init on use and moves you away from combat from the rolling you do backwards (not always good but usefull)

a steal and a roll can give you a great amount of init back

Ive played on EBay and moved back to Sea Farers Rest [EU]

I loved the way EBay played. If they moved over to SFR we would be good to go to T1

I just think that playing on US servers was a bit easy…. Opponents on the EU servers just seem much harder to deal with. Because of this wins feel much more rewarding

Every now and then SFR will face 2 german servers, and naturally we get 2v1’ed. Its quite horrible actually but from it we have become some really tough players. I would love the Aussies to come over, Ill be waiting.

I would say that Ebay is the US equivalent of what SFR is in the EU ladder. Sorry to say but even tho ebay play was amazingly constructed, the opponents were way way beneath you and it was a little bit to easy. Germans and Russians are really horrible opponents to play, which is good if you like to loose every now and then and become better. You will only really find that in the EU ladder tho which is why i moved back

To add a little more to my reply, if your looking for a US server, Ebay looks very promising and will be moving up for sure

- Lives in Sydney

Just the MUG/Cloak and Dagger combo is broken

With MUG being slightly over powered

20% of the backstab damage comes from the executioner trait. MUG/C&D combo in its current form can get most people down to 50%

Execution and MUG needs toning own and the combo broken. The backstab can remain as is

-Thief

Raw spike combos of the backstab build will get addressed but I would imagine BS will remain as is.

the “combo setup” (Steal/Mug/Cloak and Dagger) before the backstab is actually more powerful than the backstab itself and is the large spike of raw damage that will get toned down

Infiltrators signet will not apply MUG damage and can therefore be overlooked

3 more days to go until the fix.

FYI we are a mixed server with a good mix of Russian/Italian/Slovakian/Croatian/English/US/German and a Team speak to boot

TS details found at: http://www.pevepe.net

SFR still medium pop, and just about winning the current T3 matchups by a hair.

If we win this week (Which is looking good) and win the next matchup (Which is also looking good against Miller sound and Kodash) we will arrive back in T2

Unfortunately I think T2 is the highest we could ever achieve with our numbers and time zone coverage.

Theres still room for a little more everyone. Come join the hardest Wv3 working server in the World!! (Still ranking as the highest Medium Pop WvW server and has the best manpower to score ratio globally)

If you fancy a hard earnt struggle, then this is your cup of tea