Guild Wars 2

I agree fully. Playing a Thief means making sure I do not get hit, we are squishy ((Even with my modest tank)) and not seeing an animation within the slap-happy particle effects is the difference between me dodging and my team crowding around me to pick me up.

I assume certain effects look amazing on paper but they also need to be tested. I’ve begun to cringe recently seeing clone-pop mesmers in my pug runs as I know the purple and pink butterflies will blot out my vision. =D

I’m confused how is that guy getting 2k heartseekers when my heartseeker says that when a target is at 25% hp it only hits 1,242. Granted I may not be a FULL glass cannon build.

Your second point adds no other information other then that YOU can’t kill thieves
As per statistics at game launch thieves where the second highest played next to warriors and mesmers where the least.

Third point
Are you talking about survivability to flee and lose the fight depriving you of a kill, or are you talking about the class that as per game code has THE LOWEST base hp pool out of any class in the game?

The constant invisibility is a bug in the games engine. ((As I saw from the screenshot you where in WVW)) The bug is the server cannot catch up with how fast the thief is spamming stealth causing him to seem “Perma invisible.”

Also the thief is NOT invulnerable in stealth he still takes the same damage as he would out. Being a Thief the moment I see another thief stealth I pile AoE’s in my location, i’ve watched a glass cannon thief pop out of stealth moments later laying on the floor because he thought he could spam backstab inside my cluster bombs and choking gas.

On my necro it’s even more fun with improved marks I just drop them on myself and watch them all trip while he’s in stealth.

I will ignore the forth point, but will point out a few interesting things.
Thieves have a 12 initive pool by default. if he crippled you he used dancing dagger casting 4 ini.
You then stated he hearseeker spammed after you. Each heartseeker costs 3 ini. Meaning if you take normal ini regen into account he would have gotten about 3 in before he was starved ini wise.

How he killed with with the mainhand dagger attack alone is baffling me. You also made no point to dodge roll at ANY time.

The thief was not PVP geared if he hit you that hard then then turned around and you hit him that hard. He was a glass cannon build.

Now in my conclusion I suggest you check out a few elementalist PVP videos. ((Up to date ones)) Because you’re having trouble where alot of people are not.

It’s an offhand skill offhand skills are 90% of the time utility only. /thread

Never done in 1v1’s or even 1v5’s but when that 40+ man zerg cullings out of nowhere by golly ill deprive them of that badge.

Rottaran Owain.6789:

Keep in mind that attacks like unload, and sneak attack. We’d be able to keep an enemy frozen practically forever in pistol builds with that.

Fixed with a simple adjustment to venoms on burst attacks, perhaps ice drake doesn’t apply on pistol burst skills.

#SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I found Trahearne very flat in personality. His voice acting agitated me ((Even though his voice actor does amazing work.))
He jumped out of god knows where and decided. “Hey we should be buddies!” Right after the characters we enjoyed ((depending on which order you joined)) kicked the bucket in the stupidest way possible.
Then the shrub goes at takes over your story. Sure you get praised here and there every so often by non-cutscene dialog. ((Meaning you actually have to talk to the non-essential characters in the mission to hear said praise.

Now honestly I understand his Wylde hunt was to cleanse Orr and this was important to his character development. This would have been great, and easy to swallow if it took up only two or three of your main stories missions to get to the point and tie his character together. But the gross spotlight holding he does kinda bit it for me.

My leveling necro is getting close to the claw island event he’s already 61 and truly I feel I could go to 80 without ever finishing the string that leads up to the poorly thought out character arch and never look back.

Just a final note, if Anet EVER catches this random post by a random player in this very enjoyable game. Don’t forget that WE as the players LIKE being Dragonbourn, we like being Snake in metal gear solid. We enjoy being Corvo in dishonored and we enjoy having the spotlight on us, not only for our own characters developmental but for the immersion of that character being YOU inside the world of Tyria!

Garlic Sensei.4103:

Apparently Anet does not know how to nerf any other class besides thief. QQ and they will cater.

Really, did you miss the mesmer nerfs? Their in an uproar about their precious illusions and phantasms.

Pact pistol for normal running about

And a regular Krytan pistol for my Dishonored Corvo armor set.

We need difficult content take a good long look at the crap-pile WoW is now after fisher pricing it.

Josh Foreman.8250:

Aurelian Omenkind.2470:

Tried 4 or 5 times, then said “nope, I’m’a farm some more candy corns.” Been happy since.

When I made this map I was HOPING that people who aren’t into jumping would do exactly this. They’d see a fun Halloween looking environment, maybe get to the first chest and snag a goodie, then be on their merry way. I see now it was a mistake to make the hardest jumping challenge in the game part of an in-your-face update like a holiday event. I’m not going to stop making difficult stuff like this, they just won’t be so prominent in the future. I honestly hate making people upset and have a very high level of empathy. So it’s been hard hearing all the people that are so angry, frustrated and sad because of something I’ve made. But it’s just another lesson learned.

Josh the puzzle was amazing. Maybe a tad too hard for some people but still pretty kitten epic I could see a few things that I would personally change.

But seriously dude. A big trend on this forums, and it’s come from the other fisher-price toddler my first MMO’s i’m looking at you warcraft. People seem to think they’re entitled to everything even if they can’t make the grade

Protip, as an example not everyone can be an Olympic athlete.

Now if the jumping puzzle was required for the meta achieve I would have been PISSED but it wasn’t, it was designed hard yet fun…

As I said before would have adjusted a couple things but in all honesty don’t stop doing what you do. =D

Xericor.9103:

Yes! Keep both games.
Halloween was excellent, plz dont waste all that dev time and talent! Keep the mini games!

And.. on a personal note, plz release the Hunger Games event! I wasnt in Beta but that game looked great

Eh Hunger Games kinda sucked. All I did was play Man Vs Wild in the mountains till he server went down, survived.

Alright joking aside I agree, I want to keep my Dota-style reapers brawl I love it, so very very much.

I noticed a lot of SoR guys are pretty desperate for kills, so in typical tactician fashion I was urging players not to feed them by jumping spawn into 15+. They already own the entire map, just trying to play tactically with what we have. =D

Yeah found the spot they’re getting in. Their port mesmer should know my dots track him through walls when he’s hiding =D

Lets face it, Jaggad horror’s are pretty kitten useless, they’re dead before they ever reach any enemies, landing maybe one hit before kicking the bucket.

So how about we go for an alternative, name it something like “Bone and Sinew” and let it perform the task of healing our minions.

“When you kill a target your active minions health is restored.”

This would let minion master’s keep their minions relatively active, even more so in between fights. ((I hate going into a fight while my bone fiend and such are at 10% from the last encounter.))

What do you guys think, honest opinions I got the flame-suit on =D

So I played a Necro in the last Beta weekend and fell in love with minions, I remember going into fights with 2 to 3 guys and making out due to my undead hoard.

WTF happened? my minions now get oneshotted by just about everything and 90% of the time they stand there and watch me fight? And don’t get me started on the useless Jaggad Horrors, yes I love the fact I can make a minion when I kill an enemy BUT THEY DIE BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE MOBS!

they take kitten near 3 seconds to come out of the ground, by then their at half HP and then they take another 3 seconds to realize we’re in a fight to come and assist.

I did it at level 13 quit complaining, also most of the achieves are account wide my level 12 has master carver so kitten /p>

Alright, gonna play with some colors and check out subterfuge, thanks for the feedback.

Also, to those wanting to play a bit around with the set i’m using

“Rascal Mask” For the head
“Rogue Coat” for the chest peice
“Noble Pants” for… well the pants XD
The sword is a basic white vendor sword

That’s what i’m looking for, and yes it’s tricky to find a picture of corvo without the lighting off to get the proper and correct colors. ((Plus the orange sky in LA from the halloween event throws things off a bit.

Yeah the main issue is the hood, if I use the anonimity hood I end up looking too much like connor from AC3 and it lacks the skull mask

Hey everyone, so I recently got a tad “Costumey” <—-Totally not a word. While waiting for the next leg in the halloween event. Basically I set out on re-creating Corvo’s armor from dishonored.

So far it’s come along decently of course the games armor offers limitation in the way of the costume. I wanted to ask if anyone had any suggestions on the helm and boots. The one I have now is as close as I’ve been able to come so far to the epic mask Corvo wears in game.

I talked to the NPC she gave me another.

Cut your losses =D

Turn one set into the rare mini

Steal>CnD>Backstab>Cnd>Backstab

Sounds like a buff, only change is now the other player has a chance to dodge instead of the insta gib.

BTW for the CoD “I need most killzzzz on the board lullzzz” Thieves I know counting is troublesome, that’s 5 attacks in that rotation above so you can use the change to it’s full extent.

Cliff.2803:

@manwiththemachinegun

I don’t know how you consider half of those examples of the player being the focus of the story. They’re nothing more than a “hello.” A greeting. The other half seem to be words from Trahearne himself, which are entirely irrelevant. The problem is the role you play in the story vs. the role Trahearne plays. Batman praising Robin and showing him respect doesn’t change the fact that it’s still Robin.

Thank you for handing me my baterangs Robin.

Thank god, GL to FA from TC atleast we won’t have to fight against the mindless zerg machine that was BG.

Is it? Or is that 25+ man zerg that just ate up that lone runner the pathetic one’s? =P

XD you do know this would break the class, hell one of our heals is a stealth ability. Not to mention two or three openers that require you to USE stealth. How about you drop some AoE’s when the thief is render-bug abusing.

The only thing that needs to be adjusted is assassination signet, it takes a decent burst ability and turns into an insta gib.

Regardless of the fact when I see a D/D thief my first instinct is to keep distance, learn this, if you play it smart he’ll burn up his stealth, then no backstab.

First thought when I see D/D: Dodge roll away and pull out shortbow.
He pops out of stealth, cripple and bleed.
Light him up while he’s slow or immobile and he’ll crumble like paper, i’ve done it a hundred + times

Yes assassination signet NEEDS adjustment, but while we wait for that, beating the dead horse isn’t going to change jack, learn to adapt to the situation at hand.

Your zerg should have instantly started dropping AoE’s stealth isn’t a magical damage immune effect, we take 100% damage while we’re in stealth.

On top of that the rendering issue in WvWvW with stealth is a well known problem, the issue being that reviled lasts for 3 seconds while the server takes 2 seconds to catch up that the thief is out of stealth. Either way UNTIL it’s fixed by Anet, your only option is to start adapting and using a different strat when encountering a stealth heavy thief.

I’ve taught all my groups how to beat it and it works well when people don’t freak out and throw a fit that there is a thief they can’t see.

To summarize. Yes the rending issue with stealth is messed up. Yes it’s a known issue. Yes it WILL be fixed in time, till then adjust your play and have your mindless CoD zerg drop a few AoE’s

Draygo.9473:

Bad idea.

Like its really bad.

Supply camps and routes are designed to supply specific towers and keeps. Dolyaks are supposed to be raidable caravans so a server can choke an objective from getting resupplied while slowly whittling down the defenses of the fortification.

Supply crates would destroy this very important mechanic.

I want to upgrade a keep? So I grab a supply crate from godsword and run it down to dreaming bay and deposit, while i have guild mates go to far to reach supply camps and bring in supply. We use a mesmer to portal them in so we can bring them in on any point along the wall of a keep.

Keep gets +500 supply really quickly this way.

Ugh, its horrible. It removes a layer of strategy to wvw.

First off to address Mes make it so people carrying a supply crate can’t use a mesmer portal problem solved.

Secondly you can STILL starve a supply line, L2PvP and kill the players running the supply in, this forces MORE pvp into WvW and not the “I can PVE a Yak kitten ”

This also gives the defense teams a much needed buff, currently attackers just ram bodies at the door or have 10 people gather around and rez ANYONE the defense team takes down. The only way to take down an offense team is to zerg it with your own offense team.

Also I believe Yaks should stay and players should only carry a small amount. If the player dies he should also drop the supply for the other team to obtain… Little things like this can be adjusted once the system is in place but it adds more fight to PVP

The only build i’ve found useful for P/P is machinegun unload, which btw is fun as hell

No problems also ATI is similar to Nvidia where the first number is the generation and the next few numbers are usually the power.

6970 and 7970 to use a poor example are basicly the same the 7970 just has newer hardware

The same rings true for Nvidia where in the case of a 610 and 550. The 550 is more powerful but the 610 is a generation newer.

Pretty much what Kintari said. We’re having a rendering issue in WvW where it takes 2 or so seconds for the server to actually register we’ve come out of stealth, by that time we can simply re-stealth.

CnD>Steal>Signet>Backstab is currently hitting VERY high amounts of damage, now that is what our class is based around but it’s almost insta gibbing in some cases or leaves target A with way to little health to actually duke it out with the thief after the initial backastab

Do you possibly have two conflicting GPU drivers installed? Perhaps an onboard is still running someplace? It’s a long shot but check that out.

I’m running a GTS 430 on a 400w PSU it’s not too bad, playable, a tad laggy in some spots.

Though I also have a AMD phenom 965 BE at 3.4 ((OC’d to 3.8))
And I know GW2 is really processor heavy.

Either way the first issue was GW2 eating your card a GT 8600 definitively can’t run GW2.

Slip on over to Newegg.com, their GPU section is pretty extensive and have breakdowns on the cards so you can check and make sure you have a powerful enough PSU and such.

Yeah the only problem is DAoC was medieval times and GW2 is just pre industrial revolution.

Defenders are already limited in defensive options as is. The attackers can throw bodies at the door till the tower is out of resource and there is not much the defense can do about it. Any siege placed on the wall for defense is instantly AoE’d down by the multitude of rangers and the MASSIVE circle arrow range drops in.

Tower lords are a joke, me and a buddy with proper dodging and tactics have 2 manned a tower lord before. (thief, guardian) so that’s another strike against defenders.

Give us something at least. and as the posters up top said, flame rams still work, just need to be planted back.

Also in note why the hell do we have to upgrade the walls first before the door, wouldn’t the door be quicker and require less resources?

At this point it hurts BG more for TC and FA to just stay out of WvWvW. No events from attackers hitting towers or camps, and a large influx of mats from Gatherer dropping the market on things like orachalcum. =P

No exploit the catapult round hits the back of the door and the shockwave splashes through, this would damage the door if it wasn’t a friendly door, the same way I can sit on wall and launch cata rounds at my teamates, they take 0 damage but everyone else around them gets hit and knocked back.

P/D if not already said here is cookie cutter layout for a venom share thief. I’ve been using the weapon set and spec since around level 40 and never went back. It’s a very defensive weapon set. 4 makes a decent damage dump for that initiative and has good damage.

One of the most basic strats I use with this is buffing devour+spider, CnD ~Applying devours~ then using a sneak attack from stealth to dump the remaining 4 stacks of spider into the duration. Also, running ambush trap+thieves guild makes up for the slightly less damage and even more control since venom share works on your thieves.

Built the right way i’ve made other thieves crumple in a few seconds, forcing them to burn their heal and then doing it all over again, it’s strong when you know how to play it. Also, your venoms bounce with Dancing Dagger =P one dagger only counts as one venom so bounce those venoms over EVERYTHING

In the world of thief CoD builds for “Awesome lul killz on the scoreboard” This is one of the only thief builds I found that really helps and shines with a team. With ambush trap and thieves you always have a team too. =D

IDarko.4709:

Do you really expect me to throw my expensive exotic swords away and switch builds because of nerf? 15% is a lot and I don’t think it was needed because decent players had a fair chance against the build. It requires one dodge to render most p/w thieves useless.

But yeah, thieves will always be hated. It seems that Anet listens to the majority. I’m wondering how far they will go. Because if they keep doing this, they just show that initiative is a flawed system that cannot be balanced.

Backstab is next, believe me.

Unless the thief is smart and using devour’s =D

Thieves take 100% damage while in stealth and currently if your charging a move. (Rangers channeled rappid fire.) or shots already in the air will ALL hit me. The strat i’ve taught people is to spam the ground with AoE’s to counter hostile thieves, I drop a choking gas field and spam cluster bombs, he has to hit you to restealth or burn up his decently high cooldowns. To do this he needs to walk through your hostile AoE.

The main issue is the rending in WvW i’ve seen it and hate it but remember we still take 100% damage, cripples, slows, bleeds, knockdowns, stuns while in stealth, couple with the already low theif healthpool and a bit of pressure makes me back off.

Hey all, I just have a quick question on gear preferences.

I’m venom share using P/D for hybrid bleed damage and suvivability.

For the longest time i’ve been stacking rampager’s Power/Precision/Condition damage.
Condition damage being the low stat in that tree.

So as per my build I started swapping off to Carrion, with condition damage being higher priority and having the vitality to add to my tankiness. Now i’m wondering if I should go full carrion, or if a few pieces should run the precision/touchness/condition damage

What do you guys think, full carrion or a stat mix to balance?

Martym.6971:

You cannot haste and chain pistol whips.

If the opponent of the Thief spams dodge, there’s like a .5 second gap where you can dodge a Pistol Whip, even with haste on.

Regardless, I don’t care, I don’t use the useless skill, even more useless now.

And any pistol whip thief worth his salt is using devourer venom to hold you in place so you CAN’T dodge away.

Diago the issue was haste when it came to pistol whip. Because you could Haste+Pistol whip+Pistolwhip before the stun wore off, normal pistol whips damage was strong but not amazing.

Now before you jump into the “Your just mad cause you got nerfed.” I’m not a pistol whip thief, never liked the build and never found it beneficial to the team.

Now as for warriors what he means is the warrior who Sword-chucks to immobile, charges to knockdown and 100 blades to kill. This is insanely strong and i’ve been 1 shotted by it, it’s on par with the busted Haste pistol-whip set and needs to be looked at as well.

Truly though you should learn the internal mechanics of a class before you outright call it OP.. Hang around in these forums a bit if your having trouble with thieves, I did the same in the mesmer forums. =D

IMHO Anet should have taken a look at quickness and not Pistol whip but i’m slightly biased to the devourer+Pistol whip combo so =P

At least my venom share is still an asset to the team.

Curious about basalisk now wonder if it’s worth dumping my “Suddenly Thieve’s” Build for a full venoms build.

I agree 30 to 40 seconds after no damage and you should be out of combat. The long time keeps enemies who flee in WvW from dropping combat and healing. But it’s small enough so that the situation above doesn’t happen.