Ruby? Heck I’ve seen players in my diamond matches 3v1 a bunker at our home for 3 minutes while me and another guy are screaming at them we need assistance dealing with the 4v2 we’ll be pushed into assaulting any other point.
Then finally going to assist, wiping the bunker in a matter of seconds only to have one guy STAND at the home point post cap while we 4v4 mid. Having NO ONE go after the focus target while watching allies bodies pile up around me as I desperately attempt to peel and rez before finally backing out of the point because I figure 15 points worth of deaths is better then 20 points worth of deaths.
Friendly still standing at an uncontested home point.
Soooo, if you get inexperienced players that make these mistakes ingame at higher tiers… Like say first and second tier diamond were I see these issues every match.
It’s not the matchmaking putting bad players in against good…
It’s the players making bad mistakes…. Making them bad players… Being placed in against good players not making the mistakes?
Or did blowouts just vanish in the last couple days?
It’s not ungodly hard.
Nor is it incredibly easy auto-attack fodder.
Diamonds not much better. You know how many 3v1’s at home I’ve seen in second tier diamond? My team 3 their team 1
I think HoT as an expansion is decent. The problem is the problems… They are small but they chip and chip and chip away at the actual experience.
*We have the issue of Elite specs in PVP against non HoT players
*We have the marathon-maps such as dragons stand which can take, upwards of two hours to complete depending on just how good your players are.
*We had a scribing system and a timegated guild hall system that chipped away at the core of enjoyment
*We had serious grinding issues with a few of the core content pieces in HoT, the Mastereries, while an awesome system suffered from this as a base example.
*Content drought after a very quick, run-through story. HoT has suffered one of the biggest content droughts I’ve seen since WoW post pandaria. We had a quick-speedy story that one could blow through incredibly fast… Then as we were still hungry for more story it simply dropped out and now, we’re getting reports we might not have Living Story Season 3 till mid-summer… This is a very big problem for the lore buffs.
*Grindy legendaries. ((Being fixed currently)) Alot of the big draw of HoT’s endgame was new legendaries… These legendaries were found and still are very very grindy, with incredible time-gates and mat requirements to get JUST the precursor. To be fair this is being fixed and looked at by the devs, but a kick to the stones with aftercare is still a kick to the stones.
The list goes on and on with tiny things that chip away from the core experience as a whole. Again, these are tiny things in most regards… But as more and more show themselves it starts to stack up. Mountains are made from mole-hills when many many molehills are stacked on top of one another.
Getting ‘stuck’ in ruby is a very important topic regarding how best league should operate. We changed matchmaking to make the ladder more prestigious and so far it has done that. Divisions are aligning with skill level much better than season 1. The product of this change is that the bulk of players who hover around the middle of the mmr curve should stay in sapphire and ruby. Win rate will level out at 50% because there are plentiful players of similar mmr in the same division.
Should average players be able to climb out of the middle divisions by grinding? This removes prestige and can make matchmaking worse within a division, but always allows a sense of progression.
Should average players stay in the middle divisions because that’s where they belong at their skill level? This retains prestige and only improving skill will allow climbing, but rewards and progression stop at some point through the season.
Is there an incentive that could be added to league games for players who have reached their appropriate division and can no longer climb?
just finished a match and rolled a team with 2 revs and 3 rangers against 1 ranger 1 thief 1 Dragonhunter, 1 necro and 1 engineer. Naturally we lost badly but im sure this is clearly evidence of my mediocrity right?
Well of course it is. This is WHERE you should be… Forget the fact you have to rely on four other people not being igits and have to fight an equally sentient team… This sir is where you were destined to be in the leagues. =P
makes no sense but ok
I was being sarcastic. I’m on your side. XD
Getting ‘stuck’ in ruby is a very important topic regarding how best league should operate. We changed matchmaking to make the ladder more prestigious and so far it has done that. Divisions are aligning with skill level much better than season 1. The product of this change is that the bulk of players who hover around the middle of the mmr curve should stay in sapphire and ruby. Win rate will level out at 50% because there are plentiful players of similar mmr in the same division.
Should average players be able to climb out of the middle divisions by grinding? This removes prestige and can make matchmaking worse within a division, but always allows a sense of progression.
Should average players stay in the middle divisions because that’s where they belong at their skill level? This retains prestige and only improving skill will allow climbing, but rewards and progression stop at some point through the season.
Is there an incentive that could be added to league games for players who have reached their appropriate division and can no longer climb?
just finished a match and rolled a team with 2 revs and 3 rangers against 1 ranger 1 thief 1 Dragonhunter, 1 necro and 1 engineer. Naturally we lost badly but im sure this is clearly evidence of my mediocrity right?
Well of course it is. This is WHERE you should be… Forget the fact you have to rely on four other people not being igits and have to fight an equally sentient team… This sir is where you were destined to be in the leagues. =P
No. Because team fights without team support is going to be boring with everyone dying fast. Longer team fights are more skillful and require you to make more decisions. Just simply killing the only real support build in this meta is not a smart choice.
Team fights in this meta have devolved into “Smear the squishy class with your 3 or 4 guys while the other team tries desperately to peel.” They’re not skillfull they fall into who can crap DPS fast and secure a stab stomp without getting blinded.
Getting ‘stuck’ in ruby is a very important topic regarding how best league should operate. We changed matchmaking to make the ladder more prestigious and so far it has done that. Divisions are aligning with skill level much better than season 1. The product of this change is that the bulk of players who hover around the middle of the mmr curve should stay in sapphire and ruby. Win rate will level out at 50% because there are plentiful players of similar mmr in the same division.
Should average players be able to climb out of the middle divisions by grinding? This removes prestige and can make matchmaking worse within a division, but always allows a sense of progression.
Should average players stay in the middle divisions because that’s where they belong at their skill level? This retains prestige and only improving skill will allow climbing, but rewards and progression stop at some point through the season.
Is there an incentive that could be added to league games for players who have reached their appropriate division and can no longer climb?
Improving skill and hoping the other 4 igits you get paired with are of decent skill. Otherwise no amount of skill in the world is going to help you climb a TEAM based system if you keep getting paired with unskilled players.
In retrospect in my climb to diamond I came across a great deal of games, both winning and losing that where absolute blow-outs were the sheer difference in team skill was so insane that I have both a 500/64 and most recent a conquest that as a loss rolled out to around 595/10.
So while the system in theory might be decent… There are serious problems in places… Or these blowout games SHOULD NOT be happening in any capacity. But I’m not the only case. There are many many topics on the forums at the moment that show the insane loss streaks, win streaks and absolute blow outs that MatchMaker is throwing some people into.
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I hit diamond last night, my god was it a relief. I had played 57 games in T6 not even kidding
win loss win win loss loss win loss win loss loss win win loss loss. That was how the matches went all night.
On top of that it was kitten -near the same people in each match, just jumbled around. I kid you not I had brow twitches afterwards. I might just sit at Diamond now. If all my calculations where done correctly… I should be able to get my backpack in season 4.
I’m enoying PvP a lot lately.. as well as this meta.
100x better than last meta by a mile and a half.
How so Ele, scrapper and druid bunkers are still insane, even with the boonpocolypse necros bring to the table.
Honestly, moa is fine as is. When I’m reaper I actually get pretty happy when I’m moa-ed since I can just zoom zoom away with 5 and dash dash away with 2 :p
And deny your team a +1 on the point for 10 seconds + the time it takes you running back after “Zoom Zomming”
It’s the same with thieves. A thief with good team support will destroy.
Yea, necro is an aoe beast.. Had a team once mass rez me, and I shouted NO RUN AWAY. Enemy necs piled on the hate, and they all screamed in unison as blood, poison, chill, confusion, terror, and even cripple xD Was like getting caught in some mass asplosion.
All of that with a mass asplosion…. It sounds like the flu…. Or Taco Bell.
But yeah against reapers you DO NOT want to be stacked together.
Bravo good sir.
minion master reaper ? ruby ?
but how ?i thought the minions get killed pretty quickly.
They do, which can be a perk if it’s played the right way.
First off lots O minions eats AoE’s for my friendlies since the game doesn’t prioritize players over minions
So with a flesh golem, worm, and both fiends, plus a full rize contingent of 6 shamblings you absorb ALOT of AoE for your friends. And if your minions die its around 1k damage give or take and a poison debuff. Now imagine when someone wants to zerg 6 horrors and a flesh golem on top of themselves. Boom
You bring alot of CC to the table with Golem Charge, Bone Fiend root, Dagger 3 root, horn 4 daze horn 5 pulsing cripple, shroud 3 fear, shroud 5 AoE freeze, axe 3 boon strip and cripple dagger 4 blind+condi transfer and dagger 5 AoE weakness
((I run dagger horn, axe dagger for constant 25% speed from quickening thirst.))
In situations where your minions are up. ((Usually blood fiend, bone fiend and flesh worm)) Not only are they leeching HP each attack transferring any condis I get on myself every 10 seconds per minion but fleshie by himself can hit upwards of 1.2k damage a hit at 1200 range. Bone and blood usually hit around 500 to 600 each. This is all combined with me swinging a dagger at you like a maniac, rooting you in place for extra minion up-time and leeching tons of HP and half decent stacking toughness from each minion currently up.
Along side all this it provides a very big “WTF?!” Moment when they’re expecting a condi necro and 4 minions come running over the hill and a zerk necro starts tearing into you.
Now the build is not infallible. I suffer my weaknesses, someone who, in an extended fight, whittles my minions away for instance, can give me a very bad day. Big teamfights if not played and positioned right will wreck me fast, even with my ranged minions holding back and of course I still suffer a lack of stability like all necros. But all in all, if played right this build can be very effective. I usually dominate 1v1’s if the other player slips up once or twice and in 2v2’s if I have a competent buddy backing me up I can 90% of the time easily secure things into a 2v1 with a few well placed CC chains.
You guys wouldn’t believe how quickly someone crumples with a Charge, fiend root, dagger root warhorn daze, shroud fear into scythe slam.
My Minion Master reaper got me all the way to ruby?
They’re a slow, chubby comp, get them running all over then pile them. Necros crumple under any sort of focus fire, and their lack of CC will make peeling hell on earth. Just pick a target and have your team run them over, pick a new target and have your team run them over.
A necro in shroud is easy to kite, they can only spin charge once ever 6 or so seconds depending on traits, it’s a straight line and they can’t cancel it early (Safe for dropping shroud). Get some distance on him and he HAS to charge you, stand there shaking his fist angrily or drop shroud for fear of losing that second life bar. One dodge roll later and you’re out of range again and he’s angrily shaking his fist at your from range again.
Necro only has 2 sources of stability a dodge-able, blind-able elite that requires targets to get any stacks and the pulsing stab in shroud. Other then that they ARE the biggest CC bait in the world and other then burning very crucial stunbreaks to try and survive you can pinball them like some sort of pinball wizard.
Your signet of humility also forces a shroud drop for 10 seconds, if you pile a necro low and anticipate a shroud to protect himself hit him with your elite and watch him flail like a fishie trying to get away. This works increasingly well on your teams first push as while your team is piling them and they try to shroud up you can instantly shave it off.
Focus fire is the key here, paint this picture for your team. You’re those kill-bait teens in the jason movie, except you’re all armed with M60’s and Jason is lazily stomping towards you, unload on him and even the movie monster of Spvp won’t be able to survive that.
As for the heavy condition pressure… Do not and I REPEAT do not all pile into the point and stand together holding hands while there’s necros incoming or you’ll take so many conditions your eyes will bleed. Spread out and pound your MARKED target from range or one at a time, then swoop in for the kill.
I will admit necro is indeed a bit overtuned. But hopefully these tips aid you in bringing down the Spvp monster
Like many players, I came to GW2 because it was a very casual experience that didn’t require me to spend 10 hours a day playing to compete. I did that for almost 15 years split between WOW/DAoC, I’m tired.
I took breaks because I know coming back I wouldn’t miss much. I’ve even managed to craft quite a few legendaries casually playing the game. Now here we are, I come back after a year, and learn that you’re required to raid to get the stuff necessary to make this (hopefully awesome) armor.
I have a good job, 4 daughters, a wife, and 2 dogs. I don’t have 2-8 hrs a day to dedicate to setting up, forming groups, organizing voice chat, raiding et. I’ve been a solo roamer since beta, I have hardly any friends. And the ones I do have aren’t elitists.
I feel cheated and I miss my original GW2 experience. It worked, the formula was different and very welcomed. It was a wonderful experience and is what made GW2 enjoyable and unique.
Now I’m just kittened that I’m denied access because I can’t go full neckbeard status for pve in a game I was told I wouldn’t have to raid in to get the best gear.
Bleh
Yeah well I have a career, five daughters, two wives and three dogs! And I have my full legendary set already!
It was alot of lip service by Anet to quell the agitation, even if temporarily. You can see how passive aggressive they were in the blog post.
I remember politely trying to correct people that we needed more on points and in teamfights…. The reason being is I had 2 to 3 players rushing Ferocity on Temple. I was abruptly called an idiot as well as many other unfriendly things.
I won’t miss these buffs.
For further correction… Because I know someone will half-read my post. I’m speaking of Ferocity. Not Stillness or Tranquility which are both incredibly useful.
But remember, the blog said you’ll never go against 5 mans as a solo player. 4 mans are still okay though.
Loving ruby as well. Getting players that don’t know what tranq is on silent storm, ele’s that rush ferocity, players that don’t know what focus fire is. It really is the garbage dump for grinders,
The only thing IMO that need fixing is bring Necros back inline at least with other metas.
Psh a team that knows the “Smear the Necro” meta will NEVER let said necro get off the ground.
Wow, what the heck, two emeralds and an amber against three sapphires and two rubies. Jesus.
Verdant Brink 8.5/10
Auric Basic 7/10
Tangled Depths 3.5/10
Dragons Stand 5.5/10
Your suggested “Putrid Explosion” Skill is quite effective for clearing out the whole second floor to my house after Taco Bell.
Utility Skills:
Putrid Explosion: Expel necrotic energy around you, blasting the area and damaging
foes (12s cd).
It’s me I require the leather for more minion fleshcrafting. I’m also building all my bone minions little tiny trenchcoats and I have ALOT of bone minions.
I thought matchings were paired primarily through pips and not MMR
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Not really seeing an issue with this.
I haven’t taken a Gold Seller message in months. Odd.
Probably my best time in PVP so far and I’m not even playing condi reaper, I’m playing minion master.
Edit: Emerald T4 btw
I’m having the exact opposite. And no I’m not playing meta-reaper I am currently playing Minion Master.
lol last month was like..
Blade and Soul is coming.. not that much happenedBnS has more twitch viewers and players. Anet killed my favorite game. People are leaving by the masses, you just don’t feel it because of the megaservers.
BnS is also the “New Hotness” Right now next to black desert. It will taper off in a month or two.
Why can’t I have something risk and fee-free? Why am I not allowed to have that as the player? What’s wrong with giving me the possibility?
Because trade systems across nearly all MMO’s suffer the risk of scams. THe trading post does not.
On maps that have 1h+ long metas you can increase the delay for long enough for the meta to end (in case of current HoT maps, 2 hours should be enough). Considering that you are doing that already for dungeons and fractals, this should not be an issue.
…or just, you know, don’t create such long (and map-wide) metas in the first place (though it might be a bit too late for that).
Or, you know lose ONE meta out of the day so they can patch a bugfix.
Of all the things I’ve seen people complain about… My god no wonder the devs are hiding on reddit.
The only reason for it’s popularity is a few ‘choice’ streamers at the moment playing it. These choice streamers have massive followings and those followings simply watch what the streamers are playing. For instance, a popular streamer I watch going by the name Lirik will often put the title of a game not actually on Twitch (Meaning the Twitch database has no listing for it) as Barbie Game Girl. Since he has annually 10k+ viewers watching him that puts Barbie Game Girl at the top of the twitch games viewed list. Does it mean that game is popular, good or even a game for that matter? No… It means a popular streamer is playing a game and his viewers are watching, nothing more.
And I have my own picture example.
http://imgur.com/CBOStDz
Blade and Soul looks ugly and I hate the heavy-handed Asian aesthetics. I probably won’t be going anywhere.
homosexuality, or for that reason a lack of a overbearing drive to produce children due to, well, not having the utmost urge of shagging the opposite gender is usually looked down upon strongly in militaristic cultures since that would (to whatever negligible extent) lower the rate of soldier production.
from a human standpoint it is highly probably that charr are extremely homophobic.being a charr i can confirm that.
Ill have to counter you there. In ancient greek homosexuality was actually quite condoned in the military for improving morale. For lack of better words a well sexed soldier would probably focus better on the battlefield. I would feel that with a race like the Charr this would probably be the case ten-fold as they are far more militaristic then ANY race we have as humans in history entirely.
On top of that, the Charr commonly have food issues, being completely carnivorous they eat meat. More people that eat meat the harder it is to keep a supply in. I doubt the legions want a bunch of knocked up female Charr on their hands, giving birth to new maws to feed. At this point it dips into logistics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece
I’ve caught myself running into a wall whilst tired and looking at a second monitor. Not that I’m saying your claims aren’t unfounded OP. But there are a metric ton of variables you need to go through before you can scream “Bot!” Send in a report to Anet and anet will watch them, they have the tools and the logs to do so, your observations could just be. Like in my case. A distracted or tired player using autorun or simply, unconsciously holding down his W key.
In fact, just the other day while on a latenight binge with friends I walked off a cliff no less then three times in VB because I was dozing while holding the run key. XD
Silverwastes has a real nice farm. Do events, get tons of bags, salvage the mats (Bonus points if you salvage on a level 55) Sell mats and make lots of money.
Ill happily take my gliding in Tyria thank you.
I’ve never had an issues with this. When I mass open my boxes I simply stand next to a vendor. Salvage like a mad man, then sell all the green sigils to the vendor. Seriously… Not catching the big issue with this.
This forums format is crap and we have a new bug every week. It took months for the ability to “Search” through post actually worked here. Reddit is simpler and easier and GW2 devs can employ way more mods just from the reddit community to keep toxicity down.
Hell even the users can help police, if idiocy gets downvoted enough it will actually hide the post, meaning players can get on scummy commenters right away.
Lastly, we don’t have 90 sub-forums on reddit… It’s all a single thread and with the “Hot” setting a dev can find out, easily what most players are commenting on or upvoting.
All in all it’s just a cleaner more streamlined system. There’s a reason why Reddit has survived this long.
Glad to hear its working!
I did supplement Bone Minions for Fiend which is working really well when fiend decides to stay at range.
Interesting idea, this is something I need to test out myself. Rise! might reduce the need for Bone Minions, plus the removal of the self combo was a wee nerf, and I really miss the crazy long immobilize chain Fiend gives. Only thing I’d be wary of is the loss of on-demand burst/poison, but I’m not sure how important that is now.
I was finding the burst a bit tricky to pull off. In the heavy AoE cleave that was being pushed out Bone minions were the first thing to go down. On the other side with spawn detonating I found them popping out randomly, which was odd, I can usually predict where they spawn and if the spawn was off with people moving away from me it was easy to miss a bone pop. Fiend tends to stay at least out of the main AoE and survives a bit longer applying a decent pressure… And of course his amazing root.
People are quite speedy at the moment. I usually have to lure them into a melee fight to let fleshy and the shamblings get some decent damage on a target, range is quite nice atm.
So I took your advice Bhawb, usually always do and it’s a night and day difference. I can chalk a bit up to randomness against players and teams, but allowing myself to put up constant pressure has made a serious dent. Axe is alot better then I thought it was.
I did supplement Bone Minions for Fiend which is working really well when fiend decides to stay at range.
So delving into PVP due to the ESL and leagues I’ve found my reaper MM getting absolutely decimated. I really hate to have to switch, but grinding out this rank and my League achieves shouldn’t be this painful, so it looks like I’ll be switching over to the cookiecutter reaper build. I will be cruising over to meta-battle to look at those builds, but I’d also like to hear anyone’s success stories with their own reaper builds and hopefully get a decent idea on where they stand.
Seems like even the worst players are staving off my minion’s attacks, bone minions explosion has barely chewed off 25% of an enemies HP and most of these players are just standing in my damage and eating it like twinkies. Safe for thieves, they seem to be the only ones that take dents from my minions. And with how much passive AoE is being pumped out, my clerics MM is on constant defensive healing duty for my minions and 90% of the time I’m just prolonging the inevitable. God forbid I’m up against a dragonhunter as his traps pretty much devour every minion I have leaving me… And all be it, him complete defenseless for a time.
This is what I’ve been using at the moment.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBIhZ6kjGopGsbTwvGg9GsMNYTPgXWFQaAUACAxjwT4KE-TZRDwAUOEAaLDwb/BAnAAJPBAA
I ran somthing close to this during the beta weekends. Not the most refined build but it had alot of staying and stopping power.
Isn’t a full zerk reaper a waste? Since we get 50% perma crit in shroud in the spite line? i though Valk with some zerk to hit crit cap was better.
I see this… And it makes me feel bad I got a batwing brew out of my first 10 ToT bags…
When I first got it, it was at 70g… I was like “I can easily make 70g to buy a second if need be ill hold onto this one and buy one down the line for cosmetic purposes.”
Really, really loving myself for that choice to not sell or open it.
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