Guild Wars 2

Make it an instant cast AoE stomp, thieves are back in the wvw meta.

Condition Mesmers will be an even harder counter to Thief now, since we can blow up so many more of there clones while trying to dps them.

Don’t fight him 1v1 on a point, go to another point, be more worth your time.

In a 2v1 situation, immobilize him for your partner to kill, and jump in near the end for finishing (and blocking the heal with daze on steal).

Quick question, what do people think about using this and getting the 80% crit chance (100% with fury) type build for WvW.

Would it be worth it, or is it still better to stack power, and when you do crit it hits harder?

Would just like some feedback from better Mesmers.

Thanks

Mix sample so far, keep adding what you use please Thief community, will use it for a guide soon.

Its the materials that you use when making a legendary that make it expensive. No one is willing to waste 1k gold on other stuff for a bad legendary.

Looking for some up to date information on thief runes. Best way I find is to get other peoples feedback on what they use and why they use it.

So what runes do you use, and why:

Build: Power Build

Runes: Scholar Runes

Why: In pve it gives the most damage in dungeons, which people like for speed runs.

In WvW I am normally shortbow’ing with full health during zergs, and in 1v1 I usually get the first burst in, and find that no matter who I am against, they need to go straight on the defensive or I will be in trouble.

Thief is no longer strong in a power build. I would go condition damage and you can go back to your 1v7’s.

The pet that gives fear is the one that gives thieves the most trouble.

Eviscerate 1 shots me. I do not fight axe warriors because of this. My backstab hits them for 4-7k + sigil damage. They hit me for 15k + sigil damage.

High toughness warriors as a full power thief I crit for maybe 2k-3k. Glass warriors I crit for 10k+.

It makes a difference. Your axe skill crits me for 15k+, so stop complaining toughness is broken.

(WvW for average numbers)

The reason your health was low was because the WvW bonus’s had reset.

Awesome as always. Best bit was taking on the two warriors with dagger/dagger, I would of been dead meat so quickly!

Well done to the bad guys as well for sticking with the fights (most of the time).

Charr are going to become an enemy and team up with Norn.

Race vs Race pvp, on new pve open to pvp maps.

Since there is a race imbalance, this opens up a new race who will join the bad guys (Charr).

Pistol weapon ideas:

Small Shotgun
MP5K
FN P90
UZI
Flintlock triple double barrel pistol

Basically take pistol and think Sub machine gun, or just outside the box in general.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=weird+pistols&rlz=1C1GIGM_enGB539GB539&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=MizNU9wH0o7tBs7JgMAG&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=955

Go full support with lots of dodges. -50% in stealth. Shortbow blasts when you call water on yourself. Dont shadowstep since your group will not keep up. Dagger storm elite to give yourself stability.

It can work. Be better in a hit squad than a zerg squad tho.#

Make skill points account bound. Old players can unlock traits for some gold easily on alts. New players get to experience the cool leveling and traveling to get traits.

Or the skill actually works…

Put in a bug report.

Stand in stealth for 90% of the fight. Works for me, then I tell my team to dodge

Someone took offense at what i wrote so I have removed said comments. My apologies.

God. Cat. Mice.

That was funny as hell, surely Ele’s are back in cat tier tho?!

Any other runes even come close to strength now I wonder? Would love this guy to do the maths for alot of the major runes.

Anyway free bump to keep this near the top. I will keep using strength since they are good for most things I do. Staying above 90% is hard in wvw/fractals so strength is still better. Really miss my travelers though.

Also its a costume so useless.

Put swiftness on. Took me awhile to get that tip!

Lets start by making the thief one an armour please.

Theres the nerf everyone was waiting for.

Discuss in this topic if you want!

:D

Clusterbomb does the same damage as unload in a quicker timeframe. You have an extra dodge with the bow. The bow can put aoe weakness down.

The bomb is a blast finisher, so you can stack 25 might if you have an ele with you, which means everyone does more than 25% more damage, can heal on waterfields, etc etc

Valk gear instead of zerk. Run food that heals on crit.

Heard its got open world race pvp.

If solo roaming how do you deal with no speed boost. I recommend dropping blinding power for the signet, or swapping to travelers runes. If in a group then you can get speed from them, and once the fight starts your getting it from steal, but is that enough? (Stealing off critters maybe…)

How often do you use the shortbow in a fight, if not that often have a stacking sigil on it, power or precision, its up to you. Since the fighting happens with your dagger you can get a big boost to crit chance which makes lightening and fire from your weapons have more often/reliable. Especially since you have no extra precision from crit line i recommend perception sigil on the shortbow.

Hope that helps.

Just been doing a few pug matches for daily.

First match I managed to land 3 backstabs. Second match my weapon swap was on cooldown, so was just dodging until I could get my blind fields back out.

The damage was very surprising that I was getting hit by.

Thought I would share it and see how hard other people have been hit, its hard work being made of glass, I feel worse for the eles out there.

(This isn’t a flame post or aimed for that purpose, just some general good natured banter of getting smashed by a truck. Since we all make mistakes in fights and miss time dodges etc!)

Practice makes perfect. Know when you can’t win a fight and back away, or lure the targets into traps.

Depends if you want to be good at dungeons, pve, spvp, or wvw. Have your build work towards the goal you like the most.

To much effort for me to be honest. Not normally at full stacks anyway or needing them. But it is a very good tip, not sure if it works anymore, seem to loose all stacks the moment I touch water.

Just wish it was armour, want a helm and gloves to finish the look tbh.

Carpboy.7145:

Strength runes, strength/air sigil, and some combination of valk/cav/zerk

~15k health
~2.5k armor
~2100 power
~210-220% crit dmg
~40-50% crit chance

This is what I use. I also have precision stack from bow since your crit chance is lower than with zerker and bow is just movement weapon anyway.

D/D – Very quick to apply high burst. Lots of things to Cloak and Dagger from in bigger fights. Highest damage. Condition build, aoe bleed with evade, but eats ini very fast for only one condition.

Shortbow – Easy for tagging, poison fields for lowering healing, cluster bomb burst to hit more than 5 people. Easy to move around quickly for scouting.

D/P – Easier access to stealth. Powerful blind fields. Easier for stomping. High burst combo. Daze to stop stomps.

P/D – Good survival. Good spread of conditions if you use the right rotation and runes.

S/D – Boon removal. Teleports and positioning. Condition removal. Higher skill cap. Evades.

S/P – Don’t personally use

P/P – Wouldn’t recommend

Hope some of that helps, sure other people can give much better and detailed answers.

Dee jay you are completely correct.

Sigil of strength is better than sigil of force.

But where does sigil of air, fire, force, come for the second sigil for most damage.

I personally think air tops it.

Havnt heard that tactic before, its a good idea for the speed signal. Tbh most speed you get from the group, 2mins from blasting into eles air field. When solo would be useful.

ngdani.9482 Wins.

Thanks for your input everyone. Still not decided though, hard to give up travelers.

Reikou.7068:

Wolfield.9812:

5 gold reward to whoever gives the best answer within the next hour. Since information costs money.

How would the “best” be determined?
You obviously don’t know/understand optimization because if you did you wouldn’t be making this topic. And because you don’t understand optimization, you are unable to properly judge what the “best” is. Because of your inability to properly judge the provided information, this gold reward is more of a crapshoot than anything.

Best is your personally idea of what you like to run and are happy to share. See poster above that spoke about trav runes still being in his spot.

To give you an insight, I mainly play wvw, as a zerg side roamer. I need to kill quickly and get the stomp to res my allies. My utilities are shadowstep and shadow refuge. My build changes depending on the size of the party I am with and the objectives we go for.

In pve damage is most important, but since boon share is easier in a party the strength runes loose some effectiveness.

Sigil of bloodlust at top levels of power gives about a 10% increase in damage on full stacks. Sigil of precision at around 50% crit change gives 11% increase in damage. I prefer sigil of bloodlust.

Sigil of air hits for around 1.5k damage. Sigil of force increase your damage by 5%. This is an increase of around 800. Sigil of battle gives might every 1 second. This can give more or less damage?

I have a very basic knowledge of how different stats work, I am asking what people prefer to use and they consider to be the best. If do i swap from travelers to strength for 111 gold? Maybe, maybe not. 5 more gold for the person that can make me answer this question is not a crapshoot, but just a generally nice thing to do.

What is currently the best?

Strength Runes
Sigil of Air
Sigil of Might

(Off Hand Bow)
Sigil of Bloodlust
Sigil of Fire

Am I correct, or does something else work out better with the numbers.

Really would appreciate a final answer since most people I have spoken to just can’t agree.

Bonus Question
Runes of the Traveler with the utility slot as a signet to buff power, then use it for the backstab for the extra damage work out as higher then the best from above?

5 gold reward to whoever gives the best answer within the next hour. Since information costs money.

And thank you.

StinVec.3621:

Wolfield.9812:

My thief in a nice mixture of gear. 1 Wolfield point for who can name the leg skin!

Pretty nice looking!
Legs kind of look like the human cultural T3. Only seen them on female humans and never on males, but it looks like the same crisscross pattern.

Correct, 1 point.

My thief in a nice mixture of gear. 1 Wolfield point for who can name the leg skin!

Now time for something completely different!

Trait gives weakness on poison…..might be a solution to that problem Shemsu.

Mesmer steal is the best. Stability. Done.

Looks cool.

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Cool video, put some music to it next time though. Even a bit of commentary maybe?

Also they weren’t very good but thats not your fault!