Guild Wars 2

might as well do level 2 if you don’t care about the pristines…. but then there is nothing else worth farming so in that case don’t do it at all unless for lolz

wtf a serious post from dolan

considering we are getting the wallet soon I would just hold onto them until in case you really want something from it later

KillerTuxAzteka.6128:

Wukunlin.8461:

how long did it take you guys to run the sparks?

We did that fast, but it wasn’t fast enough, she regened no matter what.

how fast is fast? look up some youtube videos and try remember how fast your runs were comparing to those.

spoj.9672:

Dempsey.8760:

zencow.3651:

Rangers actually have the best damage when supplied with a Lightning Hammer since their goes up to – more or less – the standard auto-attack damage (with full zerker that’s 1.5-2k, 1.5-2k, 4-5k on third hit), ON TOP of the damage the pet’s doing.

My warrior hits harder than that with a lightning hammer >.>

My mesmer hits harder than that with a lightning hammer >.>

My dog hits harder than that with a lightning hammer >.>

how long did it take you guys to run the sparks?

yup, decent kittenstorm going on

You have absolutely no idea what kind of kittenstorm you are stirring up with that question.

You have absolutely no idea what kind of kittenstorm you are stirring up with that question.

In my guild’s set up our eles are probably doing the most damage with lightning hammer or fiery greatsword but that requires warriors to lay down banner, guardians to lay down firefields, and mesmers/guardians to supply quickness

underwater combat is incomplete

Dolan.3071:

That’s why. It’s just so buggy. I wouldn’t do it unless I desperately needed 60 tokens that day and was with a full TS guild group, trying to get anywhere with a PuG (especially when it starts bugging out) can be a nightmare.
Having said that I’ve done Path 1 and 3 with a PuG who absolutely breezed through them, so I tagged along for Path 2 and it went off without a hitch. But I’m rarely that lucky xD

I have been in groups with 2 eles that were unable to do burrows in P1 and P3

on the other hand, I wouldn’t mind paying a few gold for a trait template like the templates in gw1

Esplen.3940:

Wukunlin.8461:

I think pokemon is the only game I played when you can’t have both conditions on at the same time

In Pokemon you could only have 1 condition on you at a time. If you were poisoned and fell asleep, the sleep would override poison. Same with any other condition, this is what some skills could utilize with self-inflicting conditions (better to be asleep then poisoned, especially if you don’t want that pokemon to die).

That didn’t happen in one of the earlier gameboy version I played. The conditions will all tick one after the other during that round. But if you apply burning to a frozen enemy you will get the ice melted message removing the frozen status and the burn wouldn’t apply. It might have changed in later versions idk.

in my experience it always spawns in the middle of the 3 traps

Nice write up.
Right after changing to this from a cookie cutter shout build, there are a few things I believe a lot of people need to get used to.
First one is the lack of vigorous precision, no longer being able to spam dodge all day and still have a full bar when you need it. Having said that, asking warriors to blast firefields with warhorns will give everyone vigor.
The other one is the lack of a spammable stunbreaker (eg SYG). Only one with long cooldown (traited courage). With HG stunbreakers shouldn’t be necessary but if things don’t go according to plan (eg destroyer firy blast lolz) things can get ugly real quick.

tldr amazing build but require planning and practice

warriors will no longer be the only ones who can run 5 signet builds

on a serious note, I agree a lot of utility skills can be much more useful than elite skills, especially underwater

how do i logic?

I think pokemon is the only game I played when you can’t have both conditions on at the same time

yup AR just makes jade maw annoying. At higher levels most agony attacks would most likely kill you if you get hit before the agony starts ticking

RNG and time gating

I need to update my compilation

foofad.5162:

if your concern is Hammer Protection uptime for your party, why aren’t you running Persistence with boon duration?

because boon duration is useless since staying in hammer practically gives my team full protection uptime anyway

foofad.5162:

I didn’t say that Focus directly synergized with symbols. I’m merely saying that if your concern is that you have to “waste” a major trait in order to get the symbol damage mintor, then picking up the Focus duration trait is actually quite good for your off-set. If you prefer Scepter, Scepter Power is in there too – just use that.

Which is my point in the first place – available major traits in the symbol trees are mostly for weapons that barely uses symbols.

I can’t get the GM symbol damage trait without having to choose something useless for my hammer.

That will do

Except you proved me right that I will need 40% boon duration, and have to use HTL to make up for swapping out of my hammer.
“Tons of regen” is stupid because it stacks in duration so it is always that pathetic 100ish heal per second, less if your party is poisoned.
More blind and shield of wrath is nice but how does that synergize with my symbols again? Mace again? Please, the auto chain doesn’t even cleave properly, and the single target damage is still inferior to hammer, even scepter has better single target dps than mace.

so after all that, sacrificing whatever stat points I could’ve chosen instead, and occupying a utility slot, I get… 8 ticks of regeneration???

Are you seriously trying to justify a bunch of non-symbol-using weapon traits in a symbol tree by a little more than 100 heal per second???

and lol mace dps is fine

foofad.5162:

Again, not a great way of thinking about it. 25/15/0/30/0 is an awesome symbols build in PVE using Hammer + Mace/Focus. Fiery Wrath + Focus Mastery. Run some boon duration with Exaltation and Persistence and you’re going to have basically infinite Regeneration and Protection and good damage. Just parking at a monster and spamming Hammer isn’t doing anyone any favors, weapon swapping is where it’s at.

This makes 0 sense. Even with symbol lasting longer trait, as soon as I swap out of my hammer my whole party loses out on protection until I switch it back. Mace dps is awful without traits so I also lose out on dps.

The traits themselves are fine, they are just in weird places.

I can’t find my compilation of TA F/U links, anyone know where it is?

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

CptAurellian.9537:

Sandra Martino.3870:

That said, AH should be a standard class mechanic because in soloing, pveing, roaming, pugzerging you will most likely have not a staff ele near to spam waterfields and thuss your survival will be kitten. You`ll be like a warrior, with a standard HP pool but no ability to heal it up and with much lesser health. Everyone always yells that guardians have much better survival than warriors dispite their healthpool, guess what, this survival is completely based on AH. Without AH their survival is kitten.

Nope. I have both classes as full glass cannons and the guard does not have any greater survivability problems than the warr. Usually, it is even better, despite the low health pool, due to easier access to blocks, blinds, protection and more frequent dodges.

The difference is that warriors have much better sustain than guardians, but guardians have better defense in utilities. It’s a trade off, but right now even good warriors will admit their sustain is a problem. Once that gets fixed and brought in line then they will probably be balanced.

Yes warriors passive sustain is better than AH + VoR combined.

what sustain does warrior have? healing signet?

when I want to make a hammer dps build, symbolic power (GM minor trait) would be a logical one to aim for. I need to choose 2 major traits. Fiery wraith is obvious, but then what? binding jeopardy won’t work because procing it with hammer 3 decreases my dps. I’m not planning on jumping off a cliff or committing suicide so protector’s impact and revenge of the fallen are out. Shattered aegis doesn’t help because by targets are burning all the time from VOJ anyway. Only useful spirit weapon, comparing to other utility slots we have, is the shield which is very situational so traitinng for it will be useless most of the time. GS, focus, and scepter traits are useless in a hammer build for obvious reasons.

If you want to say, don’t make a hammer dps build then the problem becomes the minor traits being useless because symbol cd are so long in other weapons so these traits do nothing most of the time. You can argue mace has decent symbol uptime but I see much better traits for mace in other trees.

phew, I thought I bought a bunch of useless sigils >_>

stats wise the different is pretty trivial but the traits can make a much more significant difference.

seriously? I thought they fixed it. It has been there since fractals first came out. Thankfully I never seen it because I’m always the one chain jailed -_-

Lord Trejgon.2809:

@Wukunlin as CMF said Zeal tree are focusing in it’s minor traits on offensive aspect of the symbols.
also I doubt if Your build/skills/whatever ends on hammer :P

I don’t see how that justifies useless major traits?

I’ve only pugged to 38. I have yet to see a pug that doesn’t facetank dredge powersuit’s agony attack

SAB, wintersday, and the mad kings contents are prolly the best temporary stuff anet has ever brought out

i can live with most of your suggested changes except for one: dredge fractal doesn’t need fixing, it needs to be deleted

My biggest problem with symbol trait is that hammers use them most, yet in the zeal tree which focuses on symbols has absolutely nothing for hammers. I can’t get the GM symbol damage trait without having to choose something useless for my hammer.

@haviz

wait, last time I tried using WoR and SoA on 1st archdiviner they went straight through? that was months ago though.

Also, about ranging mossman in pugs, I simply don’t trust other guardians to properly cycle through aegis with me. hell, only about 1 in 5 pug guardians I see use WoR or SoA against mossman

It’s not secret. It is RNG

Considering the rewards at the moment anyone who does it for reasons other than challenge, masochism, or boredom is completely out of their minds.

There is simply no way to justify the current skin drop system. People who think wielding a fractal skin give them something other than a lucky kitten label are kidding themselves

if you want anything berserkers trinkets will be the first because they have the best stat points to crit damage ratio

the duration will definitely need to be shortened in PvP and WvW, otherwise, renewed justice won’t even be funny

comparing to the UW elite of some other classes I think we are some what better off. The whole UW combat system just feel incomplete atm

A good place to start
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84006-guardian-video-guide-for-fractals-of-the-mist-shown-at-48/

they will probably spend 1 hour extended or not

dani.1956:

Problems :
1. Trading post ! Will crush , will simply crush ! In 24 hours an item price almost triple its value ! Yea that’s right TRIPLE !
2. 20% more gold infusion from mobs ? Shouldn’t the players get the laurels back ? It’s useless now ! We lost 20 dailys of our lifes , Tyvm !
3. Community rage , what reason can you tell the players for the changes you made ? It’s this the GREAT plan to nerf CoF path 1 ? When 99.99% of the players made thief warrior or mesmer to farm Cof path 1 in a casual ( like you like to call it ) game you come up with this HAMMER nerf like you always do on the game ? Guess you like more the 0.01% Q.qers on the forum that are too lazy to exit LA to farm some gold , aight !
4. Are you sure 3 gold / hour is the best offer you can make ? Seems a little cheap !
5. The rest of 0.01% will writte bellow , have fun !

ilr.9675:

It is gone to americans. jerk hackers smiters boon can’t mine fish. Anert should unstead make LFG function already!!!!!!! and include gear check in to costume sprint for great 11:00 and i just all zigs turned off. centaurs are like truffles, If you spiky a bjarl im afraid of golem tasers. bix nood.

wut

I have a feeling COF P1 DR kicks in no matter what. Once I did it on my war then took a 1 hr break, did one again on my mes and still hit DR

pretty cool idea you got there

go ahead I stopped using it.

Actually I might run 0/0/30/30/10 in wvw someday with lemongrass food and pick on anyone I see in omnomnomberry ghost or pie

there is no prestige in fractal skins

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Wukunlin.8461:

Assuming the new champ loot isn’t another joke:

P4 will obviously be profitable with the amount of bosses
P1… the run itself really isn’t that bad or long if people know how to skip trakitten really just take one person who knows what he/she is doing and the rest follow.

I hope you’re right about the champ loot. I am desperately hoping it’s not some troll chest.

“magnificent chest” huehuehue