Guild Wars 2

Mkalafut.1273:

Okuza.5210:

IMHO, random equates with “scam” and “rip-off”. Proponents will no doubt argue that it’s fun to open a chest and see what might pop out. And, if it’s fun for you, go for it. If you’re looking for the cheapest way to obtain a particular item, though, buy it on the TP.

I’ve opened maybe a couple hundred chests during my time playing GW2 and never once seen anything even close to approaching the value of a single key on the gem shop come out. Thankfully, I’ve never spent a gem on a key — only used in-game keys.

My best advice would be to never ever buy a key using gems.

Not sure how you got over 100 keys without buying them. I have yet to see 1 drop from the world. Just the personal story ones are all I’ve ever gotten without buying them.

You can make 7 keys for about 4g and that’s all I’m going to say.

The runes they come with are already bad, but I never noticed it since I usually replace the rune as soon as I get the weapon.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Spiky.8403:

Drew.1865:

Agreed if you melee kholer he’s going to pwn your face. I range him.

Here is video of me soloing Kohler with guardian, using hammer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ib0JnigqvE4

wow this actually looked just contrary what it should look like: you just spam 1 and keep your utilities on CD, this looks nothing like skilled gameplay to be honest. I will have to try this, but I’m kind of disappointed now. A boring rotation/CD-spam? I wonder if this is working as intended.

where is the skill in that?

I’m going to be sad when they kill guardians altrustic healing build because of solo vids like this ruining it for the rest of us :\

Agony resist doesn’t matter until you hit 20 (if you have 5 or none you die automatically at jade maw) agony resist below 20 is “nice” but not necessary for survival (made it to 20 with 0 agony resist, just learn the agony attacks of each boss and how to dodge them).

250 more t6 mats, lol no thx.

I say just add lodestones drops (more than just what you guys deem “rare” chance) for the top 3 hardest dungeons based by time like arah, coe, (not sure) and increase token rewards for each of them to compensate for time/tokens. The ones that don’t need this would be ac, cof <- these have hit the sweet spot for tokens/time/drops/gold just need to balance the rest.
edit: Can we get a storage panel for dungeon tokens and ectos already??

Tier 2:
1/12
Tier 3:
0/1

It didn’t happen to me, but 1 person got dc’ed from fractals 10 SECONDS before the last chest (jade maw 22), needless to say, I felt bad for him

1. What server are you in?
2. Do you use lfg site?
Time you play in?

lolitsage.2185:

Sleepy.2647:

lolitsage.2185:

I guess agony res back pieces requiring large amounts of ecto to upgrade per tier had nothing to do with it.

Not really, do you think everyone is upgrading a backpack to get 5 agony? Don’t think so.
Also dyes must be used to upgrade backpacks since they are also at 15s+…guess not either. Or mini pets, or gems…yeah, i guess everything is used for ascended gear.

Lets say 4 people upgraded their backpiece to the highest tier (250 ecto) that’s already 1k worth, as there’s a fair few who have. Supply > demand. This accompanied with the ban of large amounts of bots = higher prices.

The person I quoted was talking about ecto, not dyes. Nice try though.

Let’s not forget about the ultra shiny backpiece for 750! Ectos

The only consumable buffs that don’t disappear are those handy dandy gem store boosters. -sigh-

Tulisin.6945:

Lokki.1092:

Tulisin.6945:

Ravax.1205:

Starlink, why dont you just craft a cheap quiver? Its not that hard, or expensive.. im sure you have 50 ectos somewhere, and 250 ancient bones.. not expensive.. there, PROBLEM SOLVED

Assuming he’s got a vial, I don’t think this is unreasonable. Barring really bad drops, you should get enough money and/or ectos getting to level 20 to make yourself an ascended back piece, unless you’re skipping the vast majority of the mobs. Bare minimum doing each fractal set once and getting a gold from each should pull in 20g by the time you absolutely need that back piece, the bones will run you 6g~, the ectos another 15~ assuming you didn’t salvage any on your way up.

where are you getting your T6 mats / Ectos? O_o and can I has some?

I made the fang based quiver.

Each fang was ~15s making that ~37g 50s
Each Glob was ~25s making that another ~12g 50s
Waiting and buying when costs were low it was a bit over 40g for my non infused quiver. That doesn’t give you a single point of resistance by the way. Still gotta make an infusion or infuse the quiver.

My point was that to even arrive at level 20 you have to clear 19 fractal sets, which will give you at least a gold per fractal set (I usually make about 2g/set) and plenty of tokens for the infusion. If you use bones instead of fangs, the cost for the fine mats falls to <7 gold, so you should be able to afford the total cost of 19~ with the 20-40 gold you made getting to that point.

So the argument then becomes not “I can’t get any agony resistance because it is totally random” but rather “I don’t want to spend my money and/or get agony resistance with a stat combo that is suboptimal for my build”.

The argument becomes kitten where’d you get that vial to make a backpack? Oh yea… RNG. (got 1 after 1800 tokens made in fractals)

lvl 40…. Yea, I’m not even going to….

I use scepter and torch and get 16-20k total crit damage with torch (#5) but I guess most guardians want to be close to useless on ranged fights with staff, in relation to your question, no, torch is not bad. It also offers some good aoe with mobs going into the 30-40k damage in a big mob. The only disadvantage is that torch gets a bad rap from most guardians and the cooldowns which to me aren’t that bad

I’ve been making all my lodestones from scratch (cores to lodes) sitting with 102 molten cores left to convert and 55 destroyer lodes I’m contemplating either buying or making with skill points I don’t have since I’ve already made 344 lodestones with skillpoints :\

I sometimes wonder if the people that complain about agony actually reached a higher tier in the dungeon, with the exception of 1 boss (jade maw) EVERY agony attack can be dodged or negated completely (asura and lava fractals). I guess people complain and cry for the sake of complaining and crying /L2P. The only thing they messed up on was not awarding ascended gear in all dungeons so all the babies can still get their ascended without the grind of FoTM which already has been answered that they are working on it. (Point of view of someone with no agony resist)

So I attempted to buy a makeover pack and clicked confirmed, but nothing happened and no gems were taken out from my total so I thought it was glitching and clicked it again. To my surprise in a 3 minute delay my gems were charged twice (when I clicked it the first time NO gems were taken from me). So now I’ve bought an extra makeover pack I don’t need and to top it all off neither of the 2 have shown up in my mailbox (it’s 0/10). I’m just curious now if I can even get a refund for the extra pack that I bought (if it ever even shows up).

Shaikhob.2863:

I’m just there for tokens. I don’t care for the money >.>

If you think people running AC all the time are doing it for the tokens well…….

As far as Kohler skipping, you just join bad pugs, I never skip him (since patch).

There’s a lfg site you know?

Wasabee.5031:

NightWatcher.3869:

@BabelFish: http://dulfy.net/2012/11/17/gw2-ascended-gear-and-infusion-recipes/
Here is the link, it has all the information u’ve been looking for i believe. It took me only 4 days to reach lv 20. not like a month or two like u said

4 days to reach level 20! You must not work, no family and could game at least 8 hours plus a day. That’s awesome but I don’t have that option.
Grinding for gears was a main reason I left WoW and didn’t join Tera or any grinding MMO. I bought GW2 with two reasons: Skill-based and no gear grinding needed. Both are not the option now. In order to compete, players have to grind for new items which gives a bonus around 25% more than current exotic set. When gears are the one of the requirement to compete, there is not skill-based game anymore (WvW and PvE.)

The gear is for 1 dungeon (agony) the stats are a little better, but you won’t be able to faceroll previous dungeons running on full ascended gear as many of the drama queens on forums seem to think, it will still rely on skill. In relation to WvW (since your previous argument has been broken and the next logical complaint most people have is this) it is not a 1v1 situation where gear>skill rather more tactics>skill>gear, just like when people complained that full exotic geared players would destroy a WvW zerg (like an ancient karka from phase 3), it is not going to happen. Agony will likely always stay on FotM and ascended gear/weapons (or similar stats without agony) be achievable with tokens from new expansion dungeons that won’t have agony.

Same boat as you, with almost 3 stacks in tokens, meanwhile my friend has 8 in the bank and we have done 95% of the runs together, kind of wish they just made it a token amount .

I’ll take the lfg spam over random trolling, complaining about gw2, wow talk or people discussing politics in LA any day

That doesn’t even make sense, if you’re scale 4 and you join into a scale 16 where mobs behave differently like harpies actually knocking you back in the Asura fractal, then you’re playing something that is harder but you get low scale rewards….. Just no.

Didn’t complain about phase 1 or 2 but this is complete bullkitten

Why can’t they post of the “Official” forums?

There’s also been a perfectly logical explanation given by Anet, if you ~still~ don’t understand why it is that time, then I’m speechless. Get over it.

I will be keeping a lemon in my inventory so once a new update comes I will instantly check TP for that 1 day…

Buy t5 and convert them to t6, then you will realize like most other people over the past month that gasp you actually make a profit.

This issue has been talked about over and over again, and I will miss the Friday event but tough luck, obviously it’s not everyone’s optimal time when they have the largest number of people playing during a specific time and choose to make it this time is a smart move. If they had been trying to alienate a specific time zone it is because you’re in the minority compared to this “optimal” time, they won’t do away with 1 time events by qq in forums so just deal with it.
/close thread.

To the people that keep saying: If I wanted to gear grind I would not play GW2 I could just go play “Game X” please go and take your bucket of tears with you. Nobody will be doing ascended gear checks besides this new dungeon, there is still 99% of the game you can do. Just like nobody did exotic checks when all the drama queens where spilling their guts on the forums about it guess what? It never happened.

The majority of players that wanted this barely look at forums let alone comment in them. I can’t wait for the new update and this supposed ‘infinite level’ dungeon that will keep getting updates. I assume the other 40000 views are people like me that literally laughed at all the qq in this thread. Some people tried to be logical about the new items bringing up points such as loss in versatility but you guys jump on the their throat like a pack of rabid dogs going “they lied! Look at the manifesto!; this is wow 2.0! Gear treadmill, rabble rabble rabble” Never seen such an entitled community, if you don’t like it there’s the uninstall option.

Probably last post I will put here with all the mindless drones “power creep, gear grinding, etc” Ask yourself this 1 question: Will NOT being able to obtain ascended gear make you UNABLE to complete ac, coe, cof, cm, hotw, ta, se, arah. any event, etc. anymore? If the answer is No, you should start to think about how much this new armor change will really affect the game.

Fiddlestyx.9714:

XGhoul.7426:

Why are people even crying over this issue? Full Exotic gear still makes you MORE than capable of doing 99% of the content in the game (besides the end of this new dungeon). The people crying right now have no idea if they will be easy to get and I’m willing to bet there will be a “chance” to get ascended gear in every dungeon chest now which will go with what Anet said on fixing dungeon rewards. I’m happily looking forward to it now. (time to actually kill Khoeler in AC)

We aren’t upset about having to get one more set of gear. We are upset about what this represents (if true) and that’s having to get a new set every few months (grind).

This game was advertised to not be a grind and it is slowly turning into one.

If anyone wants to play a “grindy” game, they have many to choose from. Anet sold THIS game as something for the rest of us that don’t want to play those other games.

And getting exotics wasn’t a grind? (some people had a full set in less than 5 days of game release) If anything it will make exotics cheaper (less grind) which allows you to do 99% of the content of the game (and you don’t even need full exotic gear to do so), yea people are overreacting way too much over this. The only thing you might have to grind to do is “1 dungeon” but I still don’t see the logic behind all the qq.

Why are people even crying over this issue? Full Exotic gear still makes you MORE than capable of doing 99% of the content in the game (besides the end of this new dungeon). The people crying right now have no idea if they will be easy to get and I’m willing to bet there will be a “chance” to get ascended gear in every dungeon chest now which will go with what Anet said on fixing dungeon rewards. I’m happily looking forward to it now. (time to actually kill Khoeler in AC)

If it’s a complete PUG, I will take any level since usually it will just be for that dungeon. When the group is 80% guildmates and we need 1 more, you MUST be level 80 for the simple fact that we don’t stop after AC, we go on to other dungeons immediately after and it eases the stress from finding another player for the next dungeon, at a low level you won’t be able to go in coe, cof, hotw, it’s just that simple.

If they add better rewards to chests/bosses I want you to make another thread on people skipping him because they won’t.

Torvarren.6295:

It’s only grinding if you spend all your time doing the same thing over and over. If you do different things and only run each path in a dungeon once per day it is not grinding.

Doing the same path in a dungeon once per day is not grinding.
Spreading out the events you do to avoid Diminishing Returns is not grinding.

This guy knows what he is talking about. When you do multiple dungeon runs with your guild and they are for the 1st time of the day (according to daily reset) in a new dungeon and you get hit with DR it pretty much means either 1. Stop playing or 2. Keep playing and the next NEW path will reward you 30 tokens. Unfortunately the “casuals” if you want to call yourselves that don’t understand how much DR affects the people that can only play the game 2-3 days a week and do guild dungeon tours and see how much the system is complete bullkitten. If it’s your normal 3-4 paths per day on a different path you will never see DR hit you, otherwise, most of you have no idea what we’re talking about. (Unless you want to defend the broken system and are forced to wait 1-2 hrs before you can start your (first time on a) new path on a dungeon in order to avoid DR when it was never supposed to be imposed on you in the first place).

Torvarren.6295:

Diminishing returns is an antigrind mechanic. Grinding is doing the same thing over and over. If you are not doing the same thing over and over you are avoiding grinding and avoiding diminishing returns. I agree with this mentality. Making it less of a reward to grind makes you want to do other things.

It’s people like you that don’t get how broken DR is, just yesterday alone did a full AC run, 1 CoF path and got my full tokens, did 1 CoE run and I get 45 tokens, yea that makes sense.

Negativity.5801:

DR should just be removed. 60 for first of day, 20 after that. This 20 minute thing is dumb. I don’t understand this anti-farming basis for it.

If they’re not exploiting anything then there is no reason to penalize them for running the dungeon quickly.

It’s funny because 1 dungeon that was designed to easy (cof p2) caused the dungeon wide nerf (DR). Then people farmed the first 2 chests of only 1 dungeon (arah) which removed all token rewards from chests in every dungeon. All they did was quick fix every dungeon instead of addressing individual problems that were in them and it comes off as lazy, DR needs to be removed, since they essentially punish you for clearing too fast. Instead of farming 1 path, (what DR tried to stop) DR should reset after doing all 3 paths.

Not meant as a personal bash towards you Robert, but people farmed the first 1-2 chests because there was NO reward playing the rest of the dungeon for 30 minutes only to receive the same amount of tokens from an end chest (you might as well just go out and say shard farming from arah since people were doing the rest of the other dungeons). Now there is incentive to finish the dungeon because we know* we will get our 60 tokens so I don’t see how you can be oblivious to that.

??? I don’t know what you’re trying to say.

They are placeholders for any forge you do, they do not act as another gs is you put 3 (you got lucky), they randomize your forge. They have as much of a chance to give you an exotic like any other thing, the exotics are not “unique” to only using the stone.

If the big kitten California earthquake were to hit in the final days of the event I would not expect them to extend the event. The point is that just because the east coast is densely populated does not necessarily mean that most of the gw2 playerbase resides there, this is a worldwide game and wouldn’t hold my breath for preferential treatment. Stay safe.

Yea, I never found the Tower puzzle “hard” after 15-20 mins or so of failing, I was able to do it on my main and consecutive runs on my first try with most of my alts (even did 8 of them back to back for fun just to see how many bags I can get from the chest). The reason why it was never hard for me is due to doing close to 90% of the jumping puzzles in the entire game because it helps you learn the “limits” of your character’s jump and what you can get away with. The beginning is meh… I guess for some* the mob of people is annoying, but after the first 3 jumps (of first collapse) if you know what you’re doing you will easily be ahead of the entire pack. I would actually like to ask if the people who “cannot” complete it did most, if not all of the jumping puzzles in the game? I think it’s impossible to do all of them and not be able to do this relatively easy one (the hardest part is just being fast but the jumps are super easy compared to some other jumping puzzles)

The exotics from the chest are non event related and on a side note: You already got a 26s dungeon reward for pretty much 10 minutes and people are already complaining? Yea, there’s no saving this community.

At least a 2nd chance to obtain them wasn’t too bad. No skins, but I did make 1g from useless tonics and boosters I wouldn’t have used otherwise.

The way they were advertised is still wrong, even if I got some random Halloween tonics or even candy corn (specific things tied to the EVENT) I wouldn’t have cared so much blowing keys on it, but when you get the same kittening things you would have gotten without the event you feel terrible. Like many others I will not be messing the the chests ever again.

All of my AC runs I tell people to skip the 1st/2nd boss (Lt.Khoeler or something) why? It’s not that I can’t dodge the spinning attack, in fact it’s VERY obvious, but I don’t have the patience to try and get inexperienced pugs to learn the dodge after it kills them 3-5 times and make the run an “unnecessary” 10 minutes longer for the big reward, which is……. Oh yes! Blues and Greens that AREN’T even MY LEVEL, those are 10 minutes well spent. If you don’t want to skip it, then make a guild/friend group and waste your time qq’ing while the rest of us don’t waste our time. (btw when chests “used” to drop tokens we wouldn’t skip him).

Short Answer: No
They should just add tokens at each chest like before (give 5 per chest) and give the remaining amount at the end. The only problem? Farming the first couple of bosses. The solution? You cannot reset dungeons until that path is specifically done. I’m personally tired of getting wrong token amounts that I am permanently avoiding dungeons until a patch since I don’t like being a tester for their failed patches.

seventhson.6932:

I’ll post this again in reply to all of sebyos’s replies, obviously you are trolling. What gear do you wear?

I see alot of people wearing this gear all over my server so I really dont think this sentiment is universal. And what do you think just running the first few bosses of Arah in 15-20 mins and then resetting and wearing that gear makes you feel more superior? Or maybe running TA and skipping a vast majority of the trash mobs and finishing in 20 mins makes you feel special? Because as far as I am concerned there is a fast way to run all the dungeons at the moment.

Add to that CoE, almost trying to get 30-40min runs