Guild Wars 2

Sol.4310:

XGhoul.7426:

Given the shaving method, we will get a 1 month player vs dev talk on preliminary skill changes, then wait 2-3 more months for these changes to happen. Since neither has been announced, expect at least 3 months from now (once they announce it within this 3 month time period, expect 2-3 more months added on top).

Going by your info that means June, they won’t release a patch so close to WTS.

Won’t be many teams left or players for that matter.

Believe in miracles..

Ostricheggs.3742:

I honor the belly dancing video if you hear me out, alright?

There were 10 other guys waiting in a waiting room for about 3 hours by the time the video was shot. We were SO BORED I would have done anything at that point for entertainment. Wifi was a mess there, no one did anything but sit and try in vain to converse.

So here comes the body tricks, someone does something with their body, we all get a kick out of it. I KNOW THE BEST BODY TRICK IN THE WORLD FOR A BIG kitten MALE. I CAN DO THE MOTHER kittenING BELLY DANCE!

So I show it to the guys and we all get a hilarious kick out of it. SOON ENOUGH, wakkey finds the girl I was flirting with yesterday (She was the chinese caster, I STILL DON’T KNOW YOUR NAME AND I HOPE YOU ARE SINGLE!) and gets her a chair right next to me (wakkey is the best wingman in the world, I love you).

They tell me to do the belly dance, and at first I’m like “HELL NO!”. Three minutes later after about 11 people other people staring at me (half this mob had their IPhones ready in video mode), I say “kitten it, I’m doing it”. I lift up my shirt and show her what no person should be forced to witness on no notice.

The first look she gives me was a look of PURE HORROR AND DISGUST. From then on I said it can’t get worse than that, then look over and see about 30 people gathered around with smart phones out video taping me.

I finish the deed and take my seat next to her. After that, she starts laughing her head off and frantically starts trying to tell me something. She translates it to her Co-Caster who speaks better English than she does and he tells me:

“she wants to sing while you do the belly dance”

so I say kitten it. NOW, THE CO-CASTER PULLS OUT HIS SMARTPHONE AND VIDEO TAPES ME FROM THE FRONT.

She starts singin, I do the deed TO THE MOTHER kittenING BEAT OF THE SONG, WHILE SHE CLAPS!

there are a ton of people with videos out there. ALL THAT I ASK is that you put twitch.tv/ostricheggs and the above and link them on youtube.

I REGRET NOTHING, LET THE INTERNET HAVE ITS WAY!

1-10
How drunk?

Forgot about the random day, inc cringe shoutcast (the cynic in me with frodan) for NA.

Given the shaving method, we will get a 1 month player vs dev talk on preliminary skill changes, then wait 2-3 more months for these changes to happen. Since neither has been announced, expect at least 3 months from now (once they announce it within this 3 month time period, expect 2-3 more months added on top).

Boxes.. boxes.. everywhere.

Ostricheggs.3742:

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

My frand Chaith! Welcome back to NA! Could you please upload pictures of the photoshoot! Thanks in advance!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Livskis, I hate to break your heart but I learned that Chaith isn’t single. I also learned that he is BY FAR the most stylish and well mannered individual on both TCG and The Abjured. I’ve never seen someone wear a scarf so well IRL, it was something to behold.

Here is some proof

From second hand knowledge, I heard you guys were treated really nice, unfortunately it wasn’t the same when NA had to stream/shoutcast the matches on the event. (or have a ts)

Firebird.8324:

I’m starting to think that, at least for ranked queue, they should set the matchmaking system similar to what it was pre-patch, I have had 1 match that was actually close out of however many days the patch has been out multiplied by 12 matches a day.

In the past I would get around half of my games solid match-ups with good fights, but now it is worthless, came to the Go4 Cup completely unprepared, can’t test comps, people or ideas when you fight solo queues and newbies ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

What you want to say is, bring soloq back so teams (2+3, 1+4, 2+2+1, 1+1+3, 1+1+2+1, 1+2+2 and the other permutations) don’t have to face mishandled matches. I’ve said this on ts before with a direct quote: “At least people that went duo/trio/quad queue expected to face premades” the only logical answer the devs have given to remove soloq entirely has been “leaderboards didn’t mean anything”. You literally made a better system to help the hardest soloq problem (4v5) then you implement a profession system which is hit or miss, but works when it needs too, which would’ve helped soloq even more!

If upper management had to force feed the pvp team to merge soloq/teamq you guys have a muzzle over your mouth to reply to this.

protip: one you kill the ranked timer (10-30mins) go into unranked and kill their timer too, if the system continues this way

Prysin.8542:

TheLargeUnit.2793:

NA Master Race

We beat them in GvG, we beat them in PvP, now we just gotta beat them in PvE!!!

just because you did it once, does not mean you are the best, only means you won once.
Also, good luck being better at PvE. EU got you beat there for a foreseeable future unless some radical changes occur.

Still, well played by Abjured indeed.

People like you and anyone else give either region a bad name. No 5 players can ever represent the entire population/community they play for. The only thing that happened was an NA team beat an EU team, to extrapolate further than that results going into full kitten mode.

(the word was re- terd)

Chase.8415:

Lopez.7369:

The first set of deaths do call the game, whether you like it or not.

Not really, I’ve lost matches where we had the first kills.

Got em! One guy did it!

100% of my courtyard matches have been full blowouts
(see what I did there)

This map needs an entire overhaul or deleted from queue entirely, it is not fun to play in or against.

I will never understand these debates as there is a good chance (small) that there are other teefs better than either player mechanically, but rotation wise, makes up a larger gap difference. In the case of toker and sizer, all I can comment is that they both played well based on their rotational skill, but if they were to mechanically play each other based on skill, toker just had more practice at the time.

I hope NA does well, but the cynic in me says that the full team would do astronomically better.

This game is not fun with the integration of both soloq/teamq

WE NEED SOLO QUEUE

When I first heard about these changes to the matchmaking system I was actually happy since it solves alot of the lower tier soloq problems [some higher tier] (4v5, etc.). The merge to this system only brings us back 2 years when we needed a separation of the 2 systems (soloq/teamq). If the system stays as it is without separation of soloq/teamq, expect a big drop in the population (nobody will soloq, duo, or trio, but it will become a full team vs team fest which will alienate 90% of the current pvp population=look at gw1 [but that game was more balanced])

I want to adopt Tyler Bearce solely on:

“We’ve gotten a lot of positive feedback from our playtesters,” Bearce says. “Pretty much as soon as we threw this in for testing, our internal playtesters said, ‘This has to go on Live.’”

This was mentioned a while back (some simple google searches to find) where the devs explicitly said that their system only allows 20 ppl in the same room, so a spectator mode is out of the question. Even if you could accommodate 1-4 more players after the various shoutcasters for their language you can’t regulate live pm’s to each team on where people are moving. (there was a larger discussion on this from a 15 min delayed timer, but the only vague answer you will get is that “it’s further down the list on things we want to do in the future”)

MarkPhilips.5169:

Short version

Swap profs before match starts (2 min.) = good
Swap profs during the match = bad
Punish leavers who leave the match = good
1 sec. Dc (and people can come back fast) = -3 ladder points + dishonor buff always = very bad

This is the best compromise, almost nobody ever switches mid match, let alone one player swapping puts the match in an auto win situation.

Zuik.7158:

Yeah for the majority of players it sucks because in the que type they play most their win rate will generally be higher but Wins/Losses has never really been an accurate because some players used second accounts after becoming a strong player whilst others simply didn’t take PvP seriously for a long time resulting in careless losses and are stuck with these on their record.

Resetting the the ratios on the leaderboard but storing them in the pvp record in game for your own viewing could be a nice solution as the new matchmaking won’t cause a huge fluctuation in ratios due to the intended better matchmaking. It will be harder to identify people by their experience however the ladder will hopefully show skill over the time it is present.

Some players are known for playing on second accounts to protect their precious top 10 rankings in team q (not going to call out specific names).

Sensotix.4106:

So since you guys merge team q and solo q and still only have invididual leaderboards where every player can track his own position but not the position of his team as

1) team x ..points
2) team y …points

i really see a problem:

so when you play with your full team you will most likely get matched against a full team
which is good but if you decide to solo join this ranked system losing will also affect your leaderboard ranking that you build up really hard with your team probably
why would a player with a good team decide to solo q then?

all of this wouldnt really matter but it feels like you guys are thinking of implementing rewards for good leaderboard positions in the future which is the reason for no player with a decent team going to solo q in “ranked” once its implemented imo

I’ll translate this since reading comprehension varies: When you “solo” into the new system it will treat you as soloq (with some variance) with 9 other people that are solo based on your level (rank, other factors, etc). If the game can’t find an equivalent match for you, you will be placed in some duo/trio/quad queue, but your rating won’t be as penalized because you are only playing as a soloq player, this means that even if you go into a technical “team queue” as a “solo queue” your rating won’t change as much now.

Justin ODell.9517:

XGhoul.7426:

That’s an insane requirement given that some teams (teamq) run less than optimal comps for the sake of fun, but when they see a real team they swap classes. What you’re essentially putting is a barrier to always play serious which results in teams steamrolling other players and rather than building a stronger pvp community you get more people discouraged from playing.

I get you, the matchmaking system will do much more to prevent awkward compositions.

If you want full control over comp you must form a party. Evan’s post tomorrow (today for you, maybe?) will explain how we’ve simplified and improved the process. I hope it helps.

What I was getting at was that full party groups do this now (playing alt-classes then swapping when it is going to be competitive), I’ll hold judgement until tomorrow , thanks for the fast reply.

Justin ODell.9517:

glock.6590:

Yeaa same here…. I play on a very crappy internet and PC, hopefully arenanet can tell if its DC or rage quit. Like giving 5 min to come back would be reasonable, that’s what it takes to reset the PC and stuff.

Sorry, but if you leave for any reason you’ll get dishonor, no matter the length of time. Even the shortest interrupts can have significant impact on the quality of the game for the other players.

Unfortunately there is no real way that I’m aware of to detect real disconnects from someone ripping out their Ethernet cable and setting it on fire in a fit or rage induced passion.

As usual though, if there is good reason too, we’ll take the time to look at this again. I can’t promise any we’ll take any action though.

That’s an insane requirement given that some teams (teamq) run less than optimal comps for the sake of fun, but when they see a real team they swap classes. What you’re essentially putting is a barrier to always play serious which results in teams steamrolling other players and rather than building a stronger pvp community you get more people discouraged from playing.

What I expect will happen Tuesday:

Everyone (who has been sitting on a rank<10 before decay) logs in to get 1 solo q game or just gets in the match to log off because /logic you will be catapulted back into top 20.

The leaderboards will essentially push out whoever was rank 14-20 by the people sitting on their rank 4-9 ranks (hence the 1 game)

Forum tears ensue

Soon™

wasn’t this a problem 3-4 months into leaderboard implementation? now, nobody cares.

(unless you are the person paying people to toss games for you, not implying you OP)

Become neo and see through the box.

Phantaram.1265:

Them not knowing anything may be the point. If it gets highly promoted and gets a higher amount of viewers than normal, those new viewers will have someone to relate to. Seeing popular esport shoutcasters will give newer viewers the sense that GW2 is really trying to go for it.

Trying to be optimistic, this is what will happen: it will capture the attention of at least 10 (100 [generous]) viewers before most close the window and move onto something else.

This game is not at the point to being viewable at the moment and no changes have been made to do so. At this point the only people that understand what is going on in matches have to actively see minimaps and the shoutcasters knowledge of what is happening in the game, this alone brings a handicap to what a fresh new viewer will be looking at due to effects.

The shoutcasters can obviously make the stream entertaining while keeping the audience (viewers) oblivious into any strategy going on because the game isn’t there yet.

infantrydiv.1620:

Do those casters even know anything about Guild Wars 2?

highly doubt frodan has vast knowledge of the game,

I want to believe……

“We have been working on new game modes for a while, but nothing can be said at the moment”

Soon™

Some very general rules to go by is:
does this skill teleport you in any way
does this skill make you go invulnerable (0 damage taken from both physical and condition)
if your skill does any of those it probably drops orb.

Frenk.5917:

Aereniel.7356:

All in all, I have to agree with OEggs that the gap between peasants and kings is getting smaller, and I’m glad that NA has managed to up its game.

I agree, even though I’d like more teams to get involved in the PVP scenario. Yesterday there was ESL, and it was a blast since there were BooN, TCG, 55hp and MiM, but including them there were only 7 teams. Not even a full bracket.

Don’t worry, NA pugs fill up the brackets as of the last 6-8 weeks, and call it a tourny*.

Instead of being cynical, this idea was proposed more than 1 year ago, while we all wait on ladder hype. Direct quote: The final stage of our rewards overhaul will be ladders. Players will be divided into divisions and will earn points for playing to work their way up the ladder. At the end of a season, players will earn PvP-specific rewards both for their ladder standings and for their level of participation. Ladders will replace existing leaderboards." announced on December 2, 2013. Being more cynical, the timeline is even further behind, giving the devs more room to put in tooltip balances and skill changes which have been worked on for the past 3 times over in the course of this year.

Ultimately, this post gets deleted by kitten mods, or actual anet staff can’t reply to this due to upper management that is incompetent to put resources into pvp while almost 60% of gw1 devs left gw2 dev team.

wow…

Zoso.8279:

@Blu dang bro im so sorry that you even had to go through all that drama to promote a game. Those “pro” teams are not very pro if they don’t understand the importance or difference between a public practice session and a private one. Every pro sport has a form of open practice where media is allowed for a day or a for a few hours to watch and record the practice. They do this to increase fan base for the sport or for the team itself. You hold private practice to really work on your tactics and improve your game, you hold public practice to promote the sport and your team (not running full builds or true tactics just a glimpse of how “pros” practice more of a learning opportunity for new players and free advertisement for more experienced players) . They were given such a huge opportunity and they threw it away because they are shortsighted rather then looking at the bigger picture imho.

When blu would initially stream these matches, he would politely ask members of both teams if someone had an objection to their build being showed on stream. Obviously I feel for blu when some teams are infamous for running the same strategy over and over (withholding team names), since it gives some other teams a slight advantage if you know the team you’re facing runs the same initial split over and over. Without knowing how far the automated shoutcaster program extends to, I assume it is just top 50-100 pugs that get pinged alot, so you have a situation when a team tries to play seriously and you shoutcast it, and give some teams an advantage in a bracket that you know you will face them in. (you essentially get an edge over a known team running a different style of split in order to counter comp them in a major tourny).

p.s (then again, this is guildwars2 where skill is a underlying factor in most matches, you either outplay someone or just outcomp them in small skirmishes /toomuchskill)

too much forum gold, we get ep2 of drama and this

inb4 lock

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Thank god i don’t have an ego..
But how pityfull you have to be to suggest something like this.

2nd post I will agree with in this topic, plz look up my stats for debate,

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Because ranks:

• Make you smarter than anyone else
• Are an indicator for player experience
• Makes you entitled to make biased claims and ignore everyone who is lower ranked
• Gives you knowledge about balancing
• And makes you better than anyone below you – those lowlife peasants…

I speak for trees bro and they say make a leaf…

completely agree with this, +1

Having bad skill delay in california /ip is 64.25.33.71:0

The major misconception which hasn’t reached the devs is: : we don’t want the map “Skyhammer” deleted, just removed from soloq or fix it to a level where you can compete in. Based on the gamescom interview, the devs seem to think we want the map to be deleted but what we actually want is:

Fix the broken map mechanics so that there isn’t an instant dead mechanic, bringing it in line with every other map or remove it until you have “soon” enough time to fix it; which at this point has been non-existant.

soon, I’m not holding my breath until the end of sept.

or just stay in base and out of combat

Read the sticky in red

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/New-to-PvP-Start-here

Evan Lesh.3295:

Skyhammer: Obligatory “Nothing is off the table”. (except deleting skyhammer)

Disclaimer: I make no feature promises.

You have to understand we don’t want skyhammer deleted, just not in soloq anymore.

lol’d at that second remark.

Anet devs can say “oh you don’t understand what we meant by high level players, what are leagues again?” a quote from 2013! : https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/player-vs-player-rewards-roadmap/. It has been 9 months if you want to push this out after the feature patch but: The final stage of our rewards overhaul will be ladders. Players will be divided into divisions and will earn points for playing to work their way up the ladder. At the end of a season, players will earn PvP-specific rewards both for their ladder standings and for their level of participation. Ladders will replace existing leaderboards.: You said this in December 2013 if you want to make up some system where you earn this after finishing 5.5 surgeries, it isn’t worth it.!!!!

Rym.1469:

About upcoming Glory PvP set…

Let’s just block the progress of this track for hotjoins/custom arenas. So, you know, people actually have to PvP to get PvP armor.

This further alienates the player base and will bring back the forum topics “Why can’t we have a rank req for soloq, all i get are bads” I’m all for banning custom arenas from progression since there are apparently rank farm servers? (rank already didn’t mean anything anyway, but that’s a separate topic) Hotjoin is already fine as it is since it has a progression cap for the reward tracks and it is there for people that don’t want to play semi-competitively/yolo (soloq) or fully competitive/yolo (tpvp).

Just open it, ill just play seasons 1 and 2

Being an optimistic person, the devs know they messed up any terms to try to talk to the remaining community, they are riding on the China hype and future promises of game modes they can’t talk about. (As a side note; if you want to keep any type of community we need transparency back, we are getting a feature pvp patch for sept. there is almost 0 point to hide what you’re going to release rather than stalling for time because we’re going to get ****ted on as always, pvp takes a back seat) ty based god anet.

OlrunTheBlade.1486:

@Quincy Looking at the edit history of the build, it looks like the build was placed in Testing in Revision as of 15:11, 4 August 2014. It was then placed in Trash in Revision as of 18:31, 7 August 2014. That is in no way 10 days. That is three. And in regards to me not defending my build, I was on my way to Florida, where I am now on vacation. In regards to your opinion on all players who eat a killshot, there are two things you’re neglecting. First: you’re moving back and forth between points frequently. Nobody can keep track of every time you come into a fight. There’s a reason why top players eat so many killshots. Second: I’ve proven that it can work on good players, so the fact that you THINK it won’t is irrelevant.

@Enzo Three days is not “quite a while.”

Can confirm, the unpredictability of killshot is such a random factor when your team has to be watching it, otherwise, even for an experienced team, you eat big damage. If olrun’s build is disregarded it breaks what is considered in “testing” for pvp compared to gw1. /shame

edit: to my surprise a tried and tested p/p build with adventurer’s is considered “testing” any engi is rolling over their dead corpse at this moment…

edit2: this proves most people didn’t play engi before it became “op” if a basic adventure rune build is disregarded as “testing”

This was suggested 1yr ago, they (devs thought removing 2 panels off skyhammer) thought it balanced the map out.

Nobody is that tryhard to abuse obvious mechanics such as instead of bleeding out on pt you relog on your char (assuming SSD) you will load faster with a fresh body faster than you would in regular respawn timer or making double of a character so you can double elite spam like using warbanner at start of a fight, die, relog into a different warrior char with a fresh banner.
edit: On the point of switching to a different class I don’t think it is allowed. (during the match, you can switch before match)

Jekkt.6045:

use signet of fury or healing surge if it’s so important for you to not reveal your position.

and the smallest asura possible

Xista.7391:

“Top 100”

http://www.gw2score.com/PvP/player/Chilli2976

#gw2detective #exposed