Guild Wars 2

More than half of these changes were made from a different pvp dev team (gw1 devs) before they (left/quit) handed the reigns to a new team, the new pvp dev team introduced HoT afaik. Will old skills get a facelift? Doubtful, they almost don’t exist.

I hope this change is reverted, and only further proves anet needs more communication with its community, why would you guys think THIS is what necro needed/wanted? baffling change close to the implementation of perplexity runes, you guys are out of tune to this game or something, or you want the second coming of necros to happen.

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Changes like this and introducing some pretty broken alternatives to amulets which are far superior to soldiers is questionable.

1 word:

ded

Don’t really get why soldiers is being removed, I agree with the rest.

Interesting amulets, mercenary’s really stands out for me.

edit: I want my gold back for purchasing durability plis

This should be fun, my one word

aids

The problem I wouldn’t say was “division boosting” it’s that people have no clue how to rotate in a bunker meta, it literally baffles me, but at the same time it doesn’t. Rotations are very intricate in this cancer meta that you have to literally know matchups i.e: you see your ele/mes holding 2 people which are a mes, ele, or ranger; never plus that fight under any circumstance, rotate to a different point, win that matchup then snowball the bunkers, but this game is really complicated.

If you are waiting for the rainbow at the end of the tunnel for next season it’s more of the same, except easier, people will stomp teams of same division and get a pip streak!

Asudementio.8526:

Terimac.5871:

how did you get to ruby without keybinds? :O

Each skill has 2 slots for keybinds. I use the secondary keybind slots on my keymapping so my action bars reflect the original assigned keys- even though i don’t use them. I assume OP does the same.

Same here, I prefer the aesthetic feeling when looking at my keybinds, back on topic for OP: At least it wasn’t a drawn out game, a quick >3min game.

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I don’t know if there is a way for anet to fix this problem 100% because I can forsee if any disconnect happens and you don’t lose a pip you can just ask an alt account friend to help you on your last 3 pips or so of your final division, if the game looks lost, alt acc friend disconnects modem, no pips lost and profit.

Cynz.9437:

lol nobody counters scrapper right now, not even necros

Terrible necros die, good ones farm scrappers :[

Feels like my eyes got kitten d, but scrapper def needs to be toned down like every other hot spec, I want nades back. Side point: I prefer to control a scrappers burst through hydro procs since hammer 2 and swap is bugged, do what you will with that. (not in metabattle is it )

edit: My personal opinions on toning down scrapper would start at rapid regen and stealth gyro which are the obvious ones.

wat

All I read are people that don’t want to lose their 3-5min pip farm games.

Can stronghold not give pips out anymore?

The imbalance between the amount of time for a game of conquest to end over a game of stronghold is absurd, and will have people gravitate to this being the next “pip farm” I just hope you guys have the foresight to see this before it becomes an issue.

Nath Forge Tempete.1645:

XGhoul.7426:

If only we didn’t get rid of glory vendors since rank 70 got the infinite light equivalent in pve, iirc. This grinding idea was not allowed (this was still when gw1 pvp devs worked on gw2 pvp), with all the faults of the old glory system I kind of miss unlocking skins every 10 levels or crafting skins I wanted.

I don’t really understand the bound between your message and this topic XD

if u could enlighten me

there is none,
you essentially want to powercreep old weapons to what they are now which is not what this game needs, so i felt the need to go offtopic because I thought you were trolling, but ….

If only we didn’t get rid of glory vendors since rank 70 got the infinite light equivalent in pve, iirc. This grinding idea was not allowed (this was still when gw1 pvp devs worked on gw2 pvp), with all the faults of the old glory system I kind of miss unlocking skins every 10 levels or crafting skins I wanted.

I guess the stronghold farm finally trickled into forums, when people “legitimately” farmed diamond→legendary in 1 day. These guys are late to it? Honestly at this point, who cares.. ANet doesn’t apparently.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

whats wrong with temple map

Nothing, I like to call it, “using your brain for some time” it makes you more aware of your surroundings, and when buffs are coming. Assuming the ideal situation: nobody is going to pay attention to them or pay too much attention to them, they will lose the game because of the nature of the bunker meta atm. I always keep track of timers and justify a judgement call every match if I should go for it or not, what baffles me more is people legitimately queuing into legacy for premades to farm you on the BIGGEST SNOWBALL MAP in the ENTIRE game, I guess this is only an mmr issue since most don’t queue into 5 mans, but I will always take temple over a match that prefers these types of groups for a small* chance to win. (for tonight I played 5 games: 3 of them were 5 mans, won 1 moral victory for 2 pips, lost 2, won 1, lost 0 in another: net gain: 1 pip: gg)

Very insightful, at this point, if you wanted to care about pips, make a honest forum post about it. My main gripe is to expose the scum that made diamond to legendary in 1 day playing stronghold for 3-5 min games, it is disgusting. I still have some respect to not play stronghold, but when you have players that literally farmed in 1 day in “ez” queues cmon… If Anet needs account names, I can easily provide them, (they have been bragging about the broken system enough, yet no1 farms pips as good)

To clarify my statement: Essentially 3-4 players bum rushed mmr in stronghold and (no surprise here) are the people that have the highest ap (which doesn’t mean anything) I would prefer they earned their spot instead of farming.

No punishment made for the true farmers since they would outright ban half their pvp population for exploiting if you need a lower division player to get a faster queue.

This guide is actually fine and make sense, but:

The best counter-argument to this is: mmr was not reset, a small example to this was: I will face the same people regardless of division, meaning the same players that play on esl teams, I will solo into, but it is not their fault because they duo+ into getting faster matchups, so this leave me on the sh** end of the stick.

I see some streamers pull in fast queues at ruby and diamond, then my eyes shine up, (maybe I can get some free wins) not the case, dream is dead. MMR was not reset and the devs are the only people to shame upon it if they have any responsibility (unless management has a tighter hold).

I assume more players will reach legendary, since im still casually playing this game per 5 pips per day at diamond, which is hit or miss, but I will reach legendary soon, won’t bother me.

• Being able to do something while waiting in queue.

At least: Play hotjoins/custom arenas
At most: Anything in the game

Random Weird Guy.3528:

XGhoul.7426:

70% luck, 20% personal skill, 10% teammates, but even that might as well go into luck.

Well one could argue 10% personal skill, 40% luck with teammates, 50% luck with enemy players. So 10% personal skill 90% luck.

Math checks out, this is the best answer.

70% luck, 20% personal skill, 10% teammates, but even that might as well go into luck.

nearlight.3064:

Akikaze.1307:

kdaddy.5431:

you mean you will face people like caed? If you wish to continue please go ahead

Legendary queueing with an Amber, hah. Thanks for the screenshot. Just reinforces the disgusting MMR manipulation people do in leagues.

Yeah, I mean everyones quick to blame them for exploiting, but I think they’re merely trying to salvage a flawed, unfinished, “beta” system for leagues than purposely exploiting. They typically get hour+ long queuest at that division if they try to go solo, so I doubt they’re picking up amber kids just to get easier matches, since they’re doing it just to get matches at all.

I mean I’m sure most of you would do it too if you cared enough about stupid stuff like division and status enough to want to do that, so yeah, I don’t blame at all for wanting to be legendary, when legendary doesn’t mean a kitten thing.

The underlying problem then becomes, if the precursor wings are easy to get (hit legendary) behind a time-gate, at this point there is no difference between say a fresh legendary player and someone that hit legendary x30 besides leaderboards, people only cared about the icon I assume. Since the pvp population is low you either queue into the same pool of ~80 people? and we all recognize each other then hope the random is enough.

Queue times are still abysmal for solo diamond players, let alone legendary players because I don’t think anet fully thought out the random “exploits” to the system to generate faster queue times. Unfortunately, even if you want to pvp if you are a legendary player you either have to game the system for a match or play unranked where, let’s be honest, unranked might as well be hotjoins and might make you bad.

The fact that the OP managed to reel in 40+ responses in an obvious troll thread, hats off to him, 10/10.

Probably because you were solo’d into another 3/4 man so the system deemed it a fair matchup I assume, but if everyone was solo ¯\_ (?)_ /¯.

We……did it?

abc.5790:

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. proof

abc.5790:

The only momentum we have right now is reverse momentum.

It should have been implemented during expac release or when leagues started at the latest.

People still can’t figure out that a 12char msg is the same as spacing out on your keyboard for characters

The system is there, it is just not implemented without the right momentum.

Can we actually play hotjoins or custom arena servers while we wait for queue? I’m not being unresonable, I don’t care about wvw or pve, just let us do something while we wait in queue (queue waiting simulator), most of the time before this prison system happened we would mock 2v2s, 1v1s, practice 1v2s, etc. just let us DO SOMETHING please.

Old soldiers engi is fine, the reason why it isn’t played is because engi has been shifted to a more 1v1 node holder for 1v2s essentially, an old soldiers engi can still make a difference in a teamfight with moa+burst+ target cleave, the problem is that it is only going to teamfight and be useless otherwise, whereas in the previous meta it can hold some 1v1s, but HoT throws this class out of 1v1s. Essentially: Soldiers engi is viable and dangerous if you are at a teamfight, otherwise you are useless, so it makes the build somewhat unviable due to the randomness of soloq, but you can definitely build a team around it.

I scored less vs their premade but got 2 pips on a loss, (the game was 450-500 approx) no in game mmr, nobody knows how this batshet crazy system works. In OP’s screenshot they only had 3 main roster apex members, I think in my game I only had 2 which then makes me wonder… this system is feck’d to begin with.

Some classic forum gold we got here.

Trigr.6481:

XGhoul.7426:

Don’t fight bunker mesmers on their capped point.

You know from experience :P Sorry I had to do it.

Yis

People playing for wings that the precursor can be earned in less than 2 weeks, but dailies require 60 days minimum, which turns to people tryharding for wings that can be earned by any mouthbreather in 1 year… IDK GUISE maybe it’s time to prioritize what you consider hard to get.

You can tell the difference between a good and bad mallyx rev. Bunker mes is forgiving, but it’s harder to pick out which are bad. Based on ease to pick up/difficulty: a bad bunker mes can probably still carry, a bad mallyx rev won’t. I should note that an excellent player in either class definitely stands out, so they are almost equal to me.

Don’t fight bunker mesmers on their capped point.

It’s must be lonely at the top.

1st: DH is trash in upper tiers
2nd: Not surprised, theif is unviable atm, so abjured is pretty much going to copy EU meta and run 1 ele, 2 revs, 1 bunk mes, 1 scrapper to compete (which imo is the most underrated strong comp that has a higher chance of beating double bunker mes)

I feel worser for zoose on OPs screenshot since some of them are his teammates :\ . I doubt he cares anyway.

#Gatekeeper
#pipsquad
#savethepips
#emeraldstillgive20minqueuessokittenitifimjavaonaltkappa

Trolling aside, people are literally farming for the pvp precursor or llamas (i doubt it), it still takes 60 days to even get the parts for the legendary backpiece, but do what you have to so that you rank up that legendary grind…. I guess?

small edit:
pips<e-pin apparently
math is hard

It’s sad that this is being blown out to Dhuumfire proportions, except teams NEED to cheese to win rather than individual skill actually showing who is good. There NEEDS to be a mid season balance just to save face at this point but anet is so stubborn to do so. I think players will look aside to cheese comps carrying in ranked queue, but fix your kittening game before you lose more people.

Velyrium.6370:

Surely there should be a way to prevent that from happening. Thoughts?

Better internet?

I would like to see an in-game mmr, but even Anet is too smart for its volatile nature and they dont have a system to show it accurately “quoting a dev post from 2 yrs ago”. I guess it sounds simple to implement, but due to low player population, it’s very volatile.

Full blowouts to premades shouldn’t take away pips.

#savethepips

I need to make a full post to stop the rose tinted glasses. Anybody that considered RA, actually balanced was a scrub, and always will be, because they could not compete at a higher level which was HA or GvG. RA became a stupid grind sync fest because the only people that made it that far just synced queued to rank 9 or 10 glad, if you solo’d into that mess you were a masochist like this system is now, so let’s stop being delusional for once.

Back on topic:

The way I found playing with better people was what this games soloq was, prove yourself to actually be better, get pm’s and prove yourself again/ learn team mechanics. This repeat of gw1 mechanics disgusts me, since the people that try to relate to it were the same that were getting farmed in that game too.

Here’s a genius idea: Give the pro league teams 1st place prize already so they aren’t flooding the leaderboards, and then we might see who qualifies for challenger league and de-incentivize pro league teams farming the leaderboard. Wait, that makes too much sense.

trytonianYeti.4389:

XGhoul.7426:

trytonianYeti.4389:

XGhoul.7426:

Since people haven’t figured it out (which NA exploited) if you set a new team name, it meant your team mmr was fresh, so your first 3-4 matches were essentially farming solos/ambers/etc, with fast queue times. "Top “NA” teams" which should be reserved to one, have started to recruit someone with 0 pvp experience to get faster timers, they know who they are, and congratz to PZ and Mist Initiative to making the exploit more obvious .

OMG someone gets it. Sadly only you and a few others.

Well it was fixed as of yesterdays* patch, so the only way to pip farm now is to pick up a complete fresh player or join one of the map heroes and carry them :P .

They were a day late with the patch and lot of the damage is done. NA roster disgust me and I’m not certain if it’s even possible to displace those teams.

I do know you spam blackgate hotm mapchat often….even before the leagues, lmao.

I don’t spam, only light more fuel to the fire in the casual map chat :P

trytonianYeti.4389:

XGhoul.7426:

Since people haven’t figured it out (which NA exploited) if you set a new team name, it meant your team mmr was fresh, so your first 3-4 matches were essentially farming solos/ambers/etc, with fast queue times. "Top “NA” teams" which should be reserved to one, have started to recruit someone with 0 pvp experience to get faster timers, they know who they are, and congratz to PZ and Mist Initiative to making the exploit more obvious .

OMG someone gets it. Sadly only you and a few others.

Well it was fixed as of yesterdays* patch, so the only way to pip farm now is to pick up a complete fresh player or join one of the map heroes and carry them :P .

small edit: stronghold is a thing?