Guild Wars 2

Guardians make this dungeon a cakewalk if they bring Shield of the Avenger, you literally watch the mobs of bandits waving their arms getting their projectiles absorbed while you kill them.

I can’t wait to see the new system that won’t use laurels/relics for future ascended pieces!

I should have made a post ranting everytime there was a required WvW kill quota to complete for monthly.
/firstworldproblems

Culzean.8571:

Don’t forget the 100% map completion, hundreds of skill points and million karma. You can’t just buy those.

None of those are hard to get.

A simple answer: Reflects, Elementalist’s don’t suffer from it that much, but when a party needs reflects a thief cannot compete with a guardians utilities/boons it brings to a party.

irrimn.3192:

Well, you have a few minutes before loot disappears… if you can’t reasonably get to the loot in 2-3 minutes then what the heck are you doing? It doesn’t even stop combat to loot or anything.

I agree that maybe they should add an auto-pickup option for loot for people that want it (like, you walk over loot, it auto-hits the F key for you) but other than that…

I don’t see them re-designing the loot system just to appease a few players.

Dredge Fractal says “Hi” this has happened too many times, but it I can’t complain since this DOES happen to some people and it doesn’t bother me (so much).

Rob just add a 15 second res timer (similar to spvp) and it will solve problems for the casuals/people that don’t have a static group.

It’s kind of obvious you like aren’t supposed to pass 50 after this update just Iike it was capped before at 40 unless you wanted to res orb/glitch your way passed the imposed cap.

People that keep thinking “oh well gw1 did this with updates” you’re all confusing content updates for a game that was completely instanced with districts to an entire open non instanced based game with separate servers.

This has been discussed to death, in short, the only thing that is going to happen is gear checks.

Watch youtube videos on the paths, don’t ask questions and follow the group, eventually you will become experienced without the risk of coming off as a complete “scrub.”

Even if they did make it worth crowns it would likely be 200+ crowns and then people back to the forums “oh the grind!” I can see it now…

You’re confusing difficult enemies with boring meat tanks.

Twill.6217:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

I use full PVT gear, I’m at level 31 fractals and I farm Arah regularly. I wouldn’t imagine using anything else.

Come at me bro.

right on, brother.
i’m at lvl 41 fractals and i run pvt gear and switch between knight/berzerker/cleric accessories as needed.

I’d be very impressed to see a lvl 30+ fractal guardian running a full berzerker. very impressed indeed.

all those elitist berzerker kids have to realise that not every profession is created equal. some professions have better escape abilities then the others. it is much easier to be a berzerker warrior then it is to be a berzerker guardian.
besides, aegis is a single most powerful thing a guardian can provide to a group. i’d rather have my guardian alive and well and giving out aegis then dead of a ground in his shinny zerker gear getting all dusty.

case closed, my pretties.

p.s. MF gear should be removed as such. it is a bad design choice. MF should have come as consumables only, temporary boosts…

I run a full berserk guardian (with the exception of 2 armor pieces and soldier runes) to get the most out of AH with no food/potions, and the only thing you need to do is constantly change utilities for each fractal map, dodge appropriately and weapon swap. I don’t go down or rarely for 30+ fractals since I’ve been used to playing a low hp berserk build since week 3 of release that dying now is a L2P issue.

Lyer.1905:

Robert, you’re right about the path of least resistance.

I think the thing that would get people to clear instead of skip would be if you made skipping trash more trouble than it’s worth. If you made it easier to actually kill the trash rather than try to run past it. Greatly reduce the HP levels of the mobs, replace the champions with elites, and elites with veterans. Increase the damage done of the mobs if you want to keep the challenge. This makes it so killing trash can be done quickly, gives people a reason to use their CC skills (and to see those CC skills actually be a big factor in victory). I would also reduce the amount of trash in certain dungeons.

Fractal trash is a great example, the Ascalon fractal in particular. Easy enough for good groups to breeze through, but hard enough to destroy bad groups that don’t pay attention or play badly.

You forgot to mention the fact that you’re carried by the mob of npcs that help you kill the trash.

Bring reflect skills (guardian has spirit shield and wall) otherwise, dodge towards the direction of the electric balls.

No they reset at daily reset (idk which timezone you are in so I can’t say a time).

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Uhm no, i guess he prefer to play with players playing, not carried nor constantly revved/rezzed thanks to their pathetic glass cannont oneshot-died build

I never die on a fractal 30+ run, usually go down 1-2 times MAX, glass cannon is not for everyone if you can’t dodge/weapon swap properly.

If you want to get it: buy it on tp, there’s plenty of contracts for sale

If you think someone is dumb enough to be lvl 2 and go into a 20+ lvl with no resist well… that’s all I need to say about that. I plan on leveling my alt soon (which will have 30 resist before even playing lvl 1) and I will join grps between 2-20(30) since they are relatively quick and easy runs. Your fears mean nothing since people will gear check before going in. People can still item code it, but if they fix their preview so that others can see your infusion then most peoples fears will be alleviated.

1-2: useless
3-6: ok
7-8: SoR does everything better
You forgot to mention volcanic and swamp fractal.

Fractal torch has a white/blue flame with a white glow around the entire torch I would put it as the second best looking torch under the legendary imo.

At first I thought this was Anet trolling people that still can’t complete the Wintersday Jumping Puzzle, but you only need to walk in and not complete it?

0/10/30/30/0
All Berzerk gear with the exception of
Hands- Pwr/pre/tough
Leggings- Pwr/tough/vit
1 Karka accesory from Lost Shores end event
Critical Chance- 43%
Critical Damage- 91
No Food buffs

If all 3 of your guardians were not running “Shield of the Avenger” (which blocks all immobol on elementals or absorbs agony) and “Wall of Reflection” (reflects an already easy to dodge agony attack) you shouldn’t play with all 3 since:
x3 Shield of the Avenger = infinite on 20s duration per shield (x3= 60s) with 60 overall cooldown
x3 Wall of Reflection = 10 secs of walls with 40 sec cooldown (30s total with 10s downtime)
Sounds like a case of bad guardians or they are running heal spec with no dmg.

Malzeth.2168:

XGhoul.7426:

Gao Gao.4973:

Why do the current Fractal Rings not include the very popular Knight’s Set Stats? They are Power, Precision, and Toughness. Other sets are missing as well! It’s important to note that people established builds based on the exotic stat set, and to not include them in the Fractal Rewards is just a strange idea.

Are there plans to release new rings that could include this stat set? I seriously have nothing to buy, unless I completely change my gear.

The only close* equivalent is pwr/tough/crit dmg and using only 3 pieces of it, you don’t have to become a drama queen about it and rework YOUR ENTIRE build for 3 pieces. As for healing power builds, Anet learned their lesson and removed garbage stats since healing power scales SO BAD you would need at least 1000 healing power to make it viable. [barely] (ie: There’s a reason why almost all armor/accessories have power on them, it is not viable to run a full “healing” or “tank” build being next to useless, YOU MUST DO DAMAGE!)

Odds are you play a thief or ranger, maybe a warrior. So of course you would know nothing about healing power and what it actually does.

Since there’s no way to parse damage/healing here’s comment based on EXPERIENCE.

With a “Tank” guardian and a 1400+ healing power Ele using a staff, on 99% of of fights both in Fractals and old dungeons, you can fall asleep and your party won’t die.

SO, take your “I’m right and you’re wrong” lack of experience elsewhere.

When I was talking about healing power scaling badly I meant it specifically for a AH guardian build.

Honestly I have encountered NO dungeon that requires a “tank” build, (as a guardian) this game was meant to be played with everyone knowing their profession by providing support (utilities) with high damage (ie: if everyone is providing support party hp and still providing as much damage as they can it keeps the entire party alive without relying on old MMO mechanics [WoW]). If you want to run a tank spec as a guardian and hinder your party with longer runs then be my guest. As a guardian you always* have to change your utilities based on map and party comp, but to say there is a cookie-cutter tank build that runs anything is just ignorant of game mechanics. (even devs talked down on eles that rely on healing type builds and let’s be honest, about it besides guardians or ele’s there isn’t alot of classes relying on healing power).

p.s nice assumptions you made about me, but nice try

Negativity.5801:

XGhoul.7426:

Gao Gao.4973:

Why do the current Fractal Rings not include the very popular Knight’s Set Stats? They are Power, Precision, and Toughness. Other sets are missing as well! It’s important to note that people established builds based on the exotic stat set, and to not include them in the Fractal Rewards is just a strange idea.

Are there plans to release new rings that could include this stat set? I seriously have nothing to buy, unless I completely change my gear.

The only close* equivalent is pwr/tough/crit dmg and using only 3 pieces of it, you don’t have to become a drama queen about it and rework YOUR ENTIRE build for 3 pieces. As for healing power builds, Anet learned their lesson and removed garbage stats since healing power scales SO BAD you would need at least 1000 healing power to make it viable. [barely] (ie: There’s a reason why almost all armor/accessories have power on them, it is not viable to run a full “healing” or “tank” build being next to useless, YOU MUST DO DAMAGE!)

Having played a shout healing warrior for months, I disagree entirely.

I’m beginning to wonder if some of you have done 30-40 min fractal runs (with jade maw) at 30+ with a decent D/D grp.

Demerz.6194:

XGhoul.7426:

The only close* equivalent is pwr/tough/crit dmg and using only 3 pieces of it, you don’t have to become a drama queen about it and rework YOUR ENTIRE build for 3 pieces. As for healing power builds, Anet learned their lesson and removed garbage stats since healing power scales SO BAD you would need at least 1000 healing power to make it viable. [barely] (ie: There’s a reason why almost all armor/accessories have power on them, it is not viable to run a full “healing” or “tank” build being next to useless, YOU MUST DO DAMAGE!)

The lack of game knowledge in this post can only be summarized into this:
/Facepalm

Care to elaborate with actual evidence between 0-xx # of healing power?
Or make a case where I was wrong since it’s easy to say “you’re so wrong” when you don’t have the evidence to back it up.

Gao Gao.4973:

Why do the current Fractal Rings not include the very popular Knight’s Set Stats? They are Power, Precision, and Toughness. Other sets are missing as well! It’s important to note that people established builds based on the exotic stat set, and to not include them in the Fractal Rewards is just a strange idea.

Are there plans to release new rings that could include this stat set? I seriously have nothing to buy, unless I completely change my gear.

The only close* equivalent is pwr/tough/crit dmg and using only 3 pieces of it, you don’t have to become a drama queen about it and rework YOUR ENTIRE build for 3 pieces. As for healing power builds, Anet learned their lesson and removed garbage stats since healing power scales SO BAD you would need at least 1000 healing power to make it viable. [barely] (ie: There’s a reason why almost all armor/accessories have power on them, it is not viable to run a full “healing” or “tank” build being next to useless, YOU MUST DO DAMAGE!)

What ascended weapon skins? You mean fractal weapon skins?

I’m more curious if this system was rushed since by the future system have a low fractal character cheese their way through levels if you always take an odd number fractal for the fastest* run that is above them, completely avoiding Maw unless it’s a daily.

Waiting until midnight when everything dies down and syncing in >.>

Why is everyone making such a big deal about this? If you had played the game since beta/launch you would notice that there was a “Legendary” tab to buy legendary items which should have given you a hint that they could be sold, it has already been confirmed that this is not a glitch. If you want to justify hours of endless farming (and it would be longer if you hard to farm your own lodestones/core) which does not equate skill then keep qq’ing. A legendary means nothing but just time/money committed to the game, that is all.

As a side note I’m curious about the people seriously bothered by this actually have 1* legendary because a friend and myself included always laugh that someone would sell their legendary after the work to get it. You have no reason to complain if you don’t even understand the amount of time to put in to get it, I’m not bothered with it.

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Gaile Gray.6028:

You need to know: Legendaries are not soul-bound until equipped. So they can, legitimately, be sold on the TP. Once equipped, however, they become soul-bound.

This is terrible! Legendary weapons are supposed to show that players have mastered various aspects of the game.

You mean endless grind? All it shows it that people have alot of time/money to waste for a cosmetic skin. At least I thought* it was common knowledge you can sell legendaries when the game launched because Trading Post has its own search bar for “Legendaries” to buy.

I did it last night, either it’s bugging or you’re doing something wrong.
Edit: Recipe working as intended.

sachiel.8051:

Learn to play and stop skipping all the content.
I can’t believe this long into this dungeon and people still have issues dodging Kholer when I demand we fight him or get nailed by scavs. All people know how to do is speed run; it’s so annoying. I’ve never had Detha bug because I kill the oozes and the gravelings as well before.

Way to generalize everyone who speed runs just skips everything when our group takes 1-2 mins or less to kill Kholer and we kill all the gold gravelings, the ooze is just a 20 second convenience since we still have to wait for Detha to talk/trigger event and want to finish our first 30 minute food buff (after already completing path 1 w/Kholer) before it expires.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Thanks for reporting those issues. Detha’s problem is certainly involved with the oozes and her scripting, and I will go in again to to try and tighten that up a bit. I’m considering just making it so that the gate won’t open until the oozes are dead because it sounds like problems are caused when trying to skip that mob.

I’ll look into Hodgin’s script for when he dies after beating the HK. So you killed him, and I take it he died before he started the cinematic? What specific actions (if you recall) happened? Was he just in combat with the Breeders when you killed HK, and he never did what he was supposed to?

Since it glitched for us on a previous day we did kill every graveling in the Howler cave. Usually have enough damage to kill all the gravelings that spawn before king dies, I don’t recall if he was dead or not, but once howling king was dead Hodgins was still alive but the final token rewards didn’t trigger.

drkn.3429:

Skipping is known to cause problems. If you don’t know what you can skip safely and how to do it, just don’t.

It hasn’t happened over the past 2 months so I don’t buy that explanation.

runeblade.7514:

Usually before Colossus we skip most of the graveling mobs, but this resulted in Hodgins glitching after colossus died to award us final 60 tokens + silver not even triggering

There is the problem. Colossus shouldn’t be in path 1.

Instead of being a smart kitten I think you know what I meant which was Howling King, SORRY FOR THE EDIT.

Iehova.9518:

The problem is that they are scared of people hoarding mass amounts of tokens, they can buy x amount of rings then sell them

As if this is a bad thing.

I meant in relation to you not being able to sell them to other players, but instead become what they are now for most high lvl fractal people, merchant food which is 4.95s. So if they make it so that you can buy them for tokens but they are still account/soulbound which means people with mass amounts of tokens will just sell them for easy silver, get it?

The problem is that they are scared of people hoarding mass amounts of tokens, they can buy x amount of rings then sell them. At this point there is no need to complain, you can either RNG your daily 10 for a chance of a non infused (which you can now infuse) ring or a chance for a infused ring 20/30/etc., and what happens if neither works? You get either 1/2/3 (pristine relics per day) guaranteed which = if your rng is SO bad that you can only get relics then choose a ring of YOUR choice and upgrade it for FREE, no, I am fine with the system they have implemented and you can even now do 1 shard/glob for a lesser tier material.
The general recipe
1 Shard/Glob + 1 Master Salvage Kit + 1 Mystic Coin + 1 Fractal Relic= 3 of a lower tier material so shard → glob and glob → vial

1st path:
Usually before Howling King we skip most of the graveling mobs, but this resulted in Hodgins glitching after HK died to award us final 60 tokens + silver not even triggering (note: the 1st graveling burrow event was always skipped, but if we try to complete it, Hodgins will still glitch). So to “alleviate” the glitch we killed all of the gravelings and to no surprise Hodgins glitched again…..

2nd path: Killed everything and skipped the jellies (ooze) before the last Detha event to trigger, so all is well and it triggers then Detha went BACK to fight the ooze and comes back to “trigger” the event which already happened so it glitched out.

This happened to us 25 minutes ago (the reason why I am typing these bugs since it is the 3rd day in a ROW for this to happen, it demoralizes the party to even try path 3 [which isn’t glitched])

No it really is bugged for some reason (there’s a chance) it will be bugged after all events end and chest pops up. I spent 1 hour (after doing it previously) searching with no success, reloaded instance and completed it within 6 minutes (not doing any events) which IMO is complete bs.

Shard/Glob + 1 MASTER* Salvage Kit + 1 Mystic Coin + 1 (regular) Fractal relic= 3 of a lower tier essence
ex:
1 Shard will give you 3 Globs
1 Glob will give you 3 Vials
Edit: Whoops I meant Master Salvage Kit (the one that costs 15s) and yes it works since I made 2 shards go to vials

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

Strifey.7215:

Never met a thf that brings more to the grp for dps then warrior. Fury, might, and banner from warrior + heavy armor and naturally high health is way better for speed running most things. And no way shortbow is high dps.

+1.
I’ve almost given up bringing ANY theifs because they play like their profession is “Ranger” and spam on short bow from a distance 24/7

Did you even read the previous posts?10k Cluster bombs and 62k melee damage in 3 seconds? Wow you people are so ignorant.

I never edited my post which was in relation to Fractals, if you want me to eat my own words show me some 30+ fractals with theifs dealing “insane” damage as you claim (then it comes down to “does every theif run the same build?” most that I have played with have been next to useless so I don’t even bother after giving pugs a 1 month chance*)

We’re talking about damage potential so if Thief does bigger dammage than other classes outside fractals ,logicaly ,it will do bigger damage inside fractals aswell.Now choke on your words.
And don’t say Thief is bad because people are bad at it , thats not even an argument.

A theif does more damage than ANY other class because it is meant for a burst dps, (which is not sustainable over long periods of time) now in relation to Fractals again, damage is only 1 criteria for being successful, and support comes into play. Support wise, most theif’s have nothing to bring besides stealth (as far as my knowledge goes, welcome to be proven wrong) this is why although they provide the better damage, party wise they are not viable for a team build meant to support each other (shout warriors/ boon guardians/ elementalist heals/ etc.) and it goes back again to why I don’t bring them to my parties.

Now go and do your homework , I’m not here to teach you about the Thief proffesion.Don’t discriminate if you have no idea what you’re talking about.The only thing that I’m going to let you know is that , it is not a burst.That 62k is sustainable damage every 3-4 seconds .

I still need to see those fractal screenshots which is all I am going to say.

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

Strifey.7215:

Never met a thf that brings more to the grp for dps then warrior. Fury, might, and banner from warrior + heavy armor and naturally high health is way better for speed running most things. And no way shortbow is high dps.

+1.
I’ve almost given up bringing ANY theifs because they play like their profession is “Ranger” and spam on short bow from a distance 24/7

Did you even read the previous posts?10k Cluster bombs and 62k melee damage in 3 seconds? Wow you people are so ignorant.

I never edited my post which was in relation to Fractals, if you want me to eat my own words show me some 30+ fractals with theifs dealing “insane” damage as you claim (then it comes down to “does every theif run the same build?” most that I have played with have been next to useless so I don’t even bother after giving pugs a 1 month chance*)

We’re talking about damage potential so if Thief does bigger dammage than other classes outside fractals ,logicaly ,it will do bigger damage inside fractals aswell.Now choke on your words.
And don’t say Thief is bad because people are bad at it , thats not even an argument.

A theif does more damage than ANY other class because it is meant for a burst dps, (which is not sustainable over long periods of time) now in relation to Fractals again, damage is only 1 criteria for being successful, and support comes into play. Support wise, most theif’s have nothing to bring besides stealth (as far as my knowledge goes, welcome to be proven wrong) this is why although they provide the better damage, party wise they are not viable for a team build meant to support each other (shout warriors/ boon guardians/ elementalist heals/ etc.) and it goes back again to why I don’t bring them to my parties.

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

Strifey.7215:

Never met a thf that brings more to the grp for dps then warrior. Fury, might, and banner from warrior + heavy armor and naturally high health is way better for speed running most things. And no way shortbow is high dps.

+1.
I’ve almost given up bringing ANY theifs because they play like their profession is “Ranger” and spam on short bow from a distance 24/7

Did you even read the previous posts?10k Cluster bombs and 62k melee damage in 3 seconds? Wow you people are so ignorant.

I never edited my post which was in relation to Fractals, if you want me to eat my own words show me some 30+ fractals with theifs dealing “insane” damage as you claim (then it comes down to “does every theif run the same build?” most that I have played with have been next to useless so I don’t even bother after giving pugs a 1 month chance*)

Strifey.7215:

Never met a thf that brings more to the grp for dps then warrior. Fury, might, and banner from warrior + heavy armor and naturally high health is way better for speed running most things. And no way shortbow is high dps.

+1.
I’ve almost given up bringing ANY theifs because they play like their profession is “Ranger” and spam on short bow from a distance 24/7

Might as well start making a warrior seeing as they get no nerfs, more buffs, strong range attacks, shout heals, sounds legit.

I had a good laugh from some of these posts based on “reflex” this is VERY tame compared to clocktower (took me 30 mins to master) I finished this one on my second try. A guildmate who had trouble with it took 30 minutes, but after that he and I farmed the puzzle for ~120 gifts, once you get in the groove there is no stopping you, if you refuse to learn it, leave it be since you obviously won’t put the time to learn the jumps (which clocktower HEAVILY relied on), this one is much easier. I say this because even on my fastest* run I had 2300 hp left which = 23 seconds to keep jumping/take my time, if you can’t do that, I have no sympathy for you.