Guild Wars 2

14k Rifle Shot. Nerf Warriors?

This thread is dumb. Stop feeding the trolls.

What about Fear? Does Distortion make you invulnerable to Fear?

Anet,

Please fix the bouncing logic that broke last patch. This affects a number of weapons but I will use Mesmer Greatsword and Staff as examples.

The Mesmer GS #2 Mirror Blade and Staff Winds of Chaos should bounce off the enemy and then me if in range otherwise other players. and then back to the enemy, etc. That should be the priority.

Both these bouncing traits should NOT bounce off clones, player pets, inanimate objects, white npcs (rabbits, mosquitoes, rats, etc.).

This broke last patch and should be fixed.

There is no reason not to be able to kick someone from your party while in WvW.

Drakh.3128:

Better yet, try being a confusion mesmer. I hit them for 65 with confusion then get hit back for 375 from retaliation. Yeah, that’s fair…..

Confusion Mesmer’s are dead.

Pendragon.8735:

I suspect YB, KN, CD and SoS are all pretty close in terms of population and strength. So any of these servers thrown together should produce pretty good matches, but others moving up or down have more trouble making a good match.

Mag was a little too big for T3, but not near strong enough for T2, so just an outlier server that doesn’t really fit with others at the moment.

You have to admit though, Mag’s emote skills were the best.

Yeah probably. I was just in wvw now (before wvw shut down) and was able to distortion stomp with no problems. false alarm.

I would get a set of Knight’s gear first and Berserker’s eventually as well. Condition gear isn’t that great for PvE especially since it is so easy to max out stacks of bleeds on a target.

UnknownFreak.2805:

you can pop Distortion while stomping “finishing” ppl, and you can also do all the other shatters as well during mid stomp. None of the shatter skills cancels other toggled skills. Means you can BF Shatter. More epic is interrupting warrior’s hammer

Edit, you may miss-hit a utility such as decoy, and it will interrupt stomps.

Yeah I almost always use Distortion when I stomp but it seemed that more than a few times when I stomped, the opponent never died but was still there on the ground. Maybe they got Aegis from a teammate during the stomp? I was just surprised it happened so often last night.

juno.1840:

Mice.8921:

@Juno – no, not a full bunker build, and I do understand what you mean – that’s why atm I’m trying shatter, it gives my some decent burst…

@Osicat – thanks for the number – I’ll check my build and see where I fall!!!

@Jarettellis – I would actually be interested in seeing that build – I love stealthy builds on my thief so I would love to have one for my mesmer too!

I run a hybrid shatter build with centaur runes as well. I like this setup a lot in WvW:

http://tinyurl.com/mjr9b35

The gear selection is important in this build in order to get power up towards 2k, and keep crit chance above 45%. I also wanted toughness near 1800.

You can swap out Portal with Blink when required. When soloing I’ll do that as well as swap out Feedback for Decoy, and Time Warp for Mass Invis.

Greatsword is for ranged combat, staff for mid/short range. I shatter when using the staff.

This is one build out of many possibilities, you’ll definitely want to check out Osicat’s guide as well (it’s excellent).

Why would you take Confusing Combatants (Dueling 25) over Shattered Strength (Illusions 25)?

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

I’d rather see Mind Wrack, Blurred Frenzy, and Phantasmal Duelist nerfed so they’re not god tier anymore. Then we can actually see what we’re working with underneath the nonsense.

Anyhow, I have used condition based Mesmer in PvP before, it’s actually good. Just wouldn’t seem that way going from Shatter/Phantasmal to it since you’re not nuking someone in a quarter of a second. Confusion is REALLY strong, because it literally makes channeled skills kill you, which is a direct counter for power Necromancers and alot of Guardian builds.

Sorry, confusion is not ‘really strong’ anymore.

Sol.8341:

btw, just a headsup to people about Fridays, 12 hours before match reset. Rankings usually decided by then and upgrades on keeps and forts do not really mean much at that time since they revert to non-upgraded at reset. Our unofficial usual practise with the Yaks running still awake at that time is to maximize WXP earned / per hour and avoid headon clashes with each other.

You will notice strange naked / badly dressed low level characters zerging from objective to objective and not defending at all. You could call this " Operation WXP Flip Exchange "

I predict this week goes down to the wire.

I prefer Sigil of Battle on each weapon swap and Sigil of Accuracy on off-hand.

Nikked.7365:

Testament.9538:

Because I am hovering over them with my mouse. The only one I have not Key bound in, is my 0. Since you really want to know and are so curious about my key binds. 6=r, 7=f, 8=tab, 9=caps and OMG the one I actually click on my elite!!! Now that we have that settled can we move on?

Inb4 you get trolled.

The video makes it look like you click on a number of skills. (The keybindings show your utilities mapped as numbers, not letters.)

The numbers or letters showing for keybinds can be misleading. I use a Nostromo N52te game pad and a Logitech G700 13 button mouse and can assign any letter or number to any button I want.

Maybe it’s just me but it seemed that last night every time I started the stomp on a downed opponent and then hit F4 Distortion during the stomp (with a clone up), the distortion would cancel the stomp and I would have to re-start the stomp again.

Can anyone else confirm?

Havana.8625:

I didn’t see anyone answer my questions for which sigils work best with phantasm builds yet. Any ideas?

PvE, WvW or sPvP?

Anet – please look into this bouncing issue. It’s not just a Mesmer issue but it does affect Mesmers significantly due to bound abilities on both staff & greatsword.

Seras.5702:

Gaiawolf.8261:

Seras.5702:

I thought clones didn’t overwrite phantasms. I’m new to mesmer but I thought I read that. If that is in fact the case, am I supposed to shatter then use Staff#2 so that I can at least get some benefit from my illusion before I overwrite him?

Clones can only overwrite a 3rd phantasm. If you only have 1-2 phants up, a new clone will overwrite your oldest clone instead.

So I drop a Phantasm, Clone, Phantasm. Then I pop another Phantasm, it’ll replace the clone?

Yes.

However, if you then create a new clone after that, it will replace your oldest Phantasm.

I use this Phantasm build for dungeons/fractals (the build on the first page, not the revised one).

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/OP-Phantasm-Mesmer-Build-Fractal-Dungeon/first

Draygo.9473:

Testament.9538:

Great fights on the battlefield. I am really impressed by CD. Your server is outstanding and for the numbers you have I truly salute you on outstanding team play. Kain I also want to thank for the great fights as well. You guys are always tough and have great tactics. This is the most fun I have had in months and glad I am sharing it with two outstanding servers. Keep up the good fight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kmLCEmfpf94

The 5 on 1 gank on a CAMP member in the video sums this thing up well.
Also stop clicking your skills X_X so painful to watch. (rebind 7,8,9,0 to something more reachable)

He isn’t clicking his skills, all are keybound.

Pinko.2076:

Splifferton.9874:

This thread is 100% dead.. not used to it after having Mags around..

don’t know what you got till it’s gone

I know the amount of /laugh and /dance emotes has gone from 99% to zero since Mag left.

Just wondering if the amount of /laugh and /dance emotes that Mag’s typically spams has gone up or down. I’m thinking the latter?

The only real Mesmer conditions are bleeding and burning with some confusion. Confusion was nerfed to 50% so it isn’t really that viable anymore. We also have a chance to do some poison condition with chaos storm but it isn’t guaranteed.

That video seriously made me lol.

Anet – please look int this and provide a response.

Bouncing attacks shouldn’t be hitting clones, phantasms, inanimate objects, white creatures, etc. This is broken.

Sword Phantasms also remove boons, right?

I would argue more mesmers run MH sword than scepter.

I’m not a huge fan of Runes of Air in WvW for the simple fact that if you stealth and then get hit while in stealth, your Runes of Air could proc and because this causes damage to your opponent, you would unstealth right away.

It works as Reidir described.

Still like my Decoy idea best.

Passive: 25% Swiftness
Active: Gain stealth and summon an illusion to attack your foe.

Duration: 3 s
Breaks stun
Range: 1,200

I would argue this would have less negative impact on most Mesmer builds. Having Swiftness on Blink would suck because I would never want to blink while out of combat.

Yeah this problem is so annoying.

Don’t forget about the old YB Recruiting Commercial…

Kasama.8941:

How many of these topics must we have? If you really need to travel long distances, you just equip the focus and Signet of Inspiration. That will give you plenty of swiftness. You don’t need to switch playstyle, just switch one weapon and one skill.

That is still a terrible band-aid like solution to get perma-swiftness just like having to use centaur runes. When I come across some enemy invaders in wvw, hopefully they will pause for my cd on Signet of Illusions to expire so I can swap it and my focus out before we battle.

if you don’t like having to watch SM to make sure it is not actually being attacked then simply don’t take SM.

You should go to T1/T2 for the lag-free zerg action.

Phoenixfudge.5290:

Funny how your only counter-arguements mention a whole other thief mechanic instead of actually comparing the CC Skill with another CC skill. What if I mained ranger or any other class? Boom. All your bad arguments wouldn’t have any significance, they really don’t in the first place anyways. itV is overpowered whether you’re playing thief, ranger warrior or whatever. Yall need to stay on topic, we are supposed to be talking about general CC and whether itV is overpowered compared to other skills.

[img]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38244111.jpg[/img]

Also, throw mine isn’t on the same level as itV. itV can be placed on walls to pull people. At long ranges, throw mine has a clear animation as you can see the hand motion and the mine coming towards you. Compare that with itV where as soon as you see the hand motion and curtain appear you can be pulled.

ItV doesn’t do any damage.

Carighan.6758:

Xavi.6591:

How about adding passive swiftness to Decoy? It is an often used utility in wvw and spvp.

That’d make an already mandatory skill even worse.
How about adding it to Illusion of Life instead?

Why would it make it worse?

Passive: 25% Swiftness
Active: Decoy (same as now).

More Mesmers would benefit from Swiftness if it was attached to the Decoy skill than Illusions of Life which only a small percentage of Mesmers use (Phantasm mesmers, not shatter mesmers). It would be better than Mantras or Signets as well.

I’m okay with having no range feature on Portal. This means that you have to have experience to know when to drop them. I would also hate for them to change/nerf/bug portals so that z-axis was now part of the range, which it currently isn’t now.

I would like to see a timer though. That would be easy enough.

Rezzet.3614:

loseridoit.2756:

Rezzet.3614:

Ansau.7326:

Rezzet.3614:

Ansau.7326:

Rezzet.3614:

Pyroatheist.9031:

Yep, he’s a thief, how predictable. Nothing to see here folks, just another person with a poor understanding of Mesmer mechanics complaining about them.

stop defending broken mechanics we all know what makes the mesmer pull broken is the ability to pull people over walls and even through doors in some very rare cases .

same goes for the ones asking for fix the pull time is fine the way it pulls is what’s broken.

simple fix would be for it to “Respect” Line of Sights.

Nothing is broken, it’s just what is meant to be. Moving everyone around it. See this image http://i.imgur.com/U1iXF.jpg.
And by the way, other professions can also pull you from walls. If you don’t want to be pulled, then don’t go to the edge. Cause with itV you can only pull people from walls if they’re in the edges.

one thing is pull players Standing on Walls and another is pulling players Behind the walls sometimes even from up to 100-200 range away from the wall.

Still is not broken. I think you don’t understand what means broken.

Complaining about too much pull range is a different thing than what you and Phoenix do, so please stop saying things that aren’t true.

who the heck is Phoenix lol and as i said pull range aint the issue issue is that it ignores LoS and pulls players that are Behind walls unlike other pulls that simply pull players over walls.

phoenix is the OP of the thread….

you cant pull people off the wall when the enemy is out LOS. When enemy is out of LOS then the pull will move the enemy to the ledge. When the enemy is in LOS then the enemy fall off the wall

one more thing. enter the void is a aoe attack. I dont think other professions want their aoe attack nerfed

in that case the fair solution would be to give every class a long range AoE Pull

I agree. Every class needs a pull. Also every class needs thief like stealth. Oh, also I want warrior kill shot and ele ride the lightning. kitten .

Yet it is funny that the most complained about OP class (currently thief) is complaining.

I want a 1 sec heads-up before a thief comes out of invis to heartseeker/backstab spam me.

The bouncing issue affects Staff too.

I love giving might stacks to my clones (worthless), ranger pets (lol), rabbits (sadface).

Please fix.

This has been an issue for months now. Anet did respond that they are looking into it but we never heard back. Phantasmal Berserker hitting for a 1k crit makes me sad.

So a thief is mad because he gets pulled out of Shadow Refuge? Cry more. Your class is already too hard to kill and being able to control the fight with your stealth abilities, heal in stealth and able to get away and reset if things are not going your way.

And you are wrong about having to use the pull right away. You can drop the curtain and use the pull seconds later if you want. This allows the mesmer to either run through it or cast iWarden then use ‘into the void’ (while iwarden is being cast) to pull the target and have iWarden spawn on them while knocked down.

This is a pretty big bug as it nerfs most of Mesmer’s attacks including Greatsword and Staff. I have to stand closer to my target then my clones otherwise my illusions (particularly clones) get the bounce which is basically useless to them as they really do no damage.

This needs to be fixed ASAP.

Kronyx.2570:

I’ll say it again for those who can’t read, as I said in my previous post.

Amulets and accessories are actually quicker to get on WvW. PvErs have to do 30 days worth of dailies to get them, while WvW players get them in 20 ( badge cost is inconsequential). The only thing PvE gets more of is rings, and thats when they do fractals. To balance this ANet gave us the WvW rank chests.

Guild missions are for people who CHOOSE to do them. PvE and PvP guilds alike do these.

The only valid point in this thread is the ability to PICK the ring you want within 10 fractal runs, which by the way are character bound (the fractal daily) . So you cant get all 10 pristine fractals in a day.

Fractal rings are account bound. You can give them to alts.

This might also ruin Staff bounces too if clones are getting the bounces instead of me.

Way to go Anet.

PS: Phantasmal Berserker (Greatsword) is still not fixed.

Advent.6193:

Things that should’ve been patched today, and weren’t:
-Staff clones and Illusionary Elasticity.

Someone reported that this was stealth fixed. Can anyone else confirm?

Edit: kitten too slow!

I like the original 20/20/0/25/5 build over the new one, even with the iZerker bug. Having your GS abilities up (GS#2, GS#5) is better in my opinion.

BlueFrog.3261:

undocumented change: illusionary elasticity can now bounce on clones and phantasms. pretty happy about this one.

Really? Are you sure?