Guild Wars 2

Just wasted 4mins of my life.

Khenzy.9348:

This is just an issue of not having resource management. The two classes that have it, it fills to quickly for them to even be considered a concern.

GW2 once had a mana+potion system back in alpha, but it was scratched entirely. I wish it would have stayed, the game would have been so much more balaced (or ‘balanceable’ for that matter) with such a sytem in place.

For what reason? A potion system will always either make the game pay to win or give pvers the advantage in PvP. The same idea can entirely be balanced around cooldowns and resource management can already be found in the form of class mechanics.

Nah, everyone having a healing skill is one of the best aspects of this game’s combat system.

With other games there is an artificial timer on fights whereas here the fight continues until the better player comes out on top or someone makes a mistake. After playing this game and going to others, without adequate self healing it feels very awkward to move out of the damage and kite only to find there’s essentially no point and you end up ramming heads until one drops.

Self healing skills give great potential for come backs and adds more depth to the flow of fights.

Johje Holan.4607:

Zetsumei.4975:

Just to confirm, they didnt cut the population of rabbits etc right?

Without the wolves the rabbit population is going to explode.

My necromancer hopes so. :P

Just to confirm, they didnt cut the population of rabbits etc right?

People who get demoralized after the first wipe.

Ithilwen.1529:

No, I find no sportsmanship or pleasure in death match. Nor do I find any real show of skill.

Beside that, there are dueling arenas for that sort of thing.

Removing Courtyard is among the best decisions ANET has made with respect to PvP.

Who is it hurting if you have it on a separate queue like stronghold?

Impact.2780:

A step toward balance. Let’s have:

• When necromancers attempt to enter shroud, there is a 25% chance it will instantly drain all their life force.

I admit I got triggered until i saw that:

Impact.2780:

Because clearly, doing all that must be easier than fixing no valid path for thief steal., so let’s bring the other class mechanics in line with this one class.

Sirendor.1394:

I always ask “duel?” if the answer is negative I usually help the ally. If it’s a duel I back off.
_________________
Also Vii, next poll idea: “What do you do when an allied player jumps in on a duel?”
a) Continue the fight.
b) Stop fighting and ask them to stop attacking.
c) Let enemy player kill allied player.

I am surprised 30% of people responded to the poll that they would gank the duelist. I mean, I don’t mind, because you’ll end up chasing after the duelist OR getting killed by him and his friends anyways.

C, and enjoy watching it.

I want it back, of course preferably with a map revamp. On that note.. what happened to build savers?

To be honest, now that we have separate queues why not bring it back with the current courtyard anyway?

PPTers really trying to pretend the gamemode doesnt need fighters right after it just came back from suffering the consequences of being devoid of fights?

Lawl pvders never learn.

Cerby.1069:

“I do not wish to worship the house of player vs door”

“These people .. they group and they fight”

Cerby.1069:

“These people do not care for winning, they…. die more than they kill. We will always be third place at this rate.”

Fixed.

Its one or the other mate, which side of the fence do you stand on? One of those sides I have no sympathy for.

Cerby.1069:

“I do not wish to worship the house of player vs door”

“These people .. they group and they fight”

Wat

BlackDiablo.3972:

We had a lot of talk about this in underworld

And we boiled it down to one big thing.

Arenanet as a company Took away a choice from the consumer. nothing more, nothing less.

People had the ability to transfer for years. anyone even remotely interested in WvW could
find the gold or the sponsors to transfer even to lower tiers in about a week.
We had the choice to go where we felt the population,community and gameplay was right for us.

All they did was take this choice away. Because you can’t wait for this to settle and transfer back to a lower population server again. As they said the links will change every three months.

They took away the choice from the consumer.

As a player who transfered from Ring of fire to Blacktide back to Ring of fire before i found my home in underworld.
All i feel is sadness and betrayal. Because the company did nothing but take my choice away from me.

If i wanted to play in far shiver peaks I would have already been playing there.
Let me play how I want to play.

Youre completely disregarding new players. Players eager to try out this game mode that people were once so passionate about, find a wasteland and turn back never to bother trying it again.

Veterans these days only wish they could show modern wvwers what the truly glory of wvw was. All we can do now is tell stories about when it was actually exciting and meant something – when these empty borders had more queues and a higher map cap than gold does today and make no mistake, im not a blobber just a strong anti-pvder.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

Keviin Snow.5760:

Katz I agree , t1 & 2 leave it alone

I haven’t seen all 4 maps queued in T1 but I’ve only been here since HoT. The most I’ve seen since I’ve been here is a queue on EBG and maybe 1 or 2 bls with small queues not over 10 – 15 but even that was a rare thing..

When I logged in a few hours ago EBG was outnumbered in T1

Prior to HoT, it was normal to have all 4 maps queued in T1, not just for reset either. Hot just made so many players quit the game that was no longer the case. Players coming back in hopes of them fixing it ( giving Anet another chance) would be what they want to happen, but if they cannot play at all and the changes are not what they asked for, you can expect them to just leave again. People saying the " queues will die down" should understand that is the worst thing that could happen, as them dying down means all those players just left the game again.

This is their opportunity to increase the number of players playing and improve the health of the game, if they blow that chance, that means they lost an opportunity to prevent the games decline. Players should want the game to keep growing, not die. Asking them not to make improvements that actually solve these issues long term is just asking them to kill the game faster.

Indeed but players should correctly convey they want anet to use a similar format for na as they do for eu rather than have a knee-jerk and immature reaction by asking to have the system completely removed.

From simple observation of the forums, i believe it can be seen that almost if not all eu players strongly feel this was a step in the right direction.

Keviin Snow.5760:

Zetsumei.4975 2 to 3 people on a map is not Wvw <— depend on the hour
not everyone stay up at 3 or 4 am in the morning to play gw2
some ppl work , not everyone can play 10 hours a day , i wish i don’t have a job and can play 10 hours a day and not worry about bills

Keviin Snow.5760:

dank.3680
Some people have a job where the free time is not during primetime.
i cant play game while at work lol ,

You completely missed both of our points.

Quoting the population during off hours does not validate the number of people on a map being so low that the only enemy you encounter realistically on a regular basis is a door equating to what wvw is, it still equates to a glorified silverwastes.

I advise you to re-read dank’s post.

Edit: Seems i misread the second half of your post. What has your second line got anything to do with the first?

Keviin Snow.5760:

dank.3680
because there was nobody left playing wvw.
???? nobody mean 0
i don’t believe it , i had a guildmate who is in t8 server and they even have 2 or 3 people NOT nobody

2 to 3 people on a map is not Wvw. That’s a glorified silverwastes. We’re talking in the interest of Wvw not brain-dead pvding.

Wvw wasn’t meant to be a pvd fest, you have silverwastes for that. Wvw was losing dramatically more players from having barren maps than it ever will from temporary queues.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Norbe.7630:

Slive.9053:

I’m a casual player and I only have time to play gw2 for about one hour per day. The queue time essentially prevents me from playing WvW, which is the only part of the game that I really enjoy.

Queues weren’t even this bad on launch weekend for me. I’m a casual player on a fairly casual server and I liked it that way.

EoTM have no qs
go play there for one hour a day, its 3 hours per match there 24/7
the match on Worlds are a week look, so EoTM suits your playstyle
dont stress yourself too much on WvW, its just a game bruh

Outside of Anet devs, who considers EoTM WvW?

The casuals? Seems like everyone’s happy then.

People mad that they can’t pve in a wvw map anymore.

The other big problem for the desert maps other than the drops that lead to death and barricades was that they were too big for the current population to fill up the space with enemies leading to arguments that travel time between fights was too large. Now that there are actually enough people to fill up the maps take that pole out of your kitten and go and play on the desert borders.

Tspatula.9086:

TorquedSoul.8097:

LoneWolfSpectre.6412:

can you post NA as well. would be nice to know who we’re working with

It looks like the top two tiers may not be effected.

nope. All the NA servers will be paired.

Baruch bay and sea farer’s rest were not paired

So did the linking ignore populations of what servers are being paired to an extent? Rof got paired with whiteside against pretty big servers.

drcraig.9403:

displacedTitan.6897:

drcraig.9403:

UmbraNoctis.1907:

Furajir.3815:

So, I’ll say again, what exactly is NOT op or broken about conditions?

Many condi builds are weaker than plenty of power builds. This fact alone disproves all arguments about condis generally being superior to power dmg.

How do you define weaker? Conditions bypass toughness. Conditions can stack duration and outlast protection. If I power burst you while you have protection you take 33% less damage for lets say 4 seconds. After protection runs out I can burst you for full damage. If I stack multiple conditions on you for 10 seconds I can walk away from you and after your protection expires you will take 6 seconds of full condition damage. My point is I can condition damage you and not even be there, I can be heading to the other side of the map. How do you define weaker?

Sure and by that logic, if you cleanse the conditions you take 0% damage from them. Sounds like power is better since 66% is higher than 0%.

I can make nonsensical arguments too!

Well Mr.Nonsensical, it doesn’t change my point if you are waiting for condi cleanse to come off cool down. Now what?

Hint: You’re not supposed to be able to cleanse every condi you receive, it’s the equivalent of complaining you don’t have enough aegis to block every attack.

The sweet victory of seeing non-condition damage users (or I guess this still only doesn’t apply to people who don’t copy and paste off metabattle.com) having to come to terms with realising the dps of chill really wasn’t that high.

Reminds me of when the zerker-no-clears-equipped boys always complained that condition users had it too easy not needing to take more than one dps stat, and then they gave us expertise and think to themselves “I’ve made a huge mistake”.

dannyteo.5864:

I am with booms on this one, the changes to guardian were just stupid, still no movement increases, decrease too true shot was not necessary in my opinion. The shouts reductions are alright i guess but i don’t see that being useful in pvp, we still have an insanely low Health pool so bunker guardian still cant keep up with all the condi and power creep.

The biggest thing about this patch that stood out to me was this

“A large portion of the changes occurring for the guardian are aimed toward reducing the dragonhunter’s group controlling and killing capacity in WVW while toning down its ranged spike damage capability prevalent in other areas.”

This tells me that these “balances” were influenced by WVW. I dont WVW often so i dont know if guardians are crazy op in them or not however if they are why do underwhelming performing guardian in pvp have to suffer? When is ANET going to finally realize that these games modes need to be separate from each other?

In regards to the effects on wvw, it has just dumbed down CCs further. You might have heard of the drama with the stability change (being made into stacks) which meant that melee trains get butchered by brainless spamming of CC. I quote “stability is now countered by the one thing it was supposed to counter”. No timing required etc, just spam everything you have.

Now there was a step in the right direction in giving the stripping of stab stacks an internal cooldown, however giving a limit on the amount of CC’s possible by line or ring skills just dumbs down the CC game further. If you allow me to extrapolate, in order to counter intelligently placed lines and rings as area denial, you get your zerg to slam their heads into them until they magically stop working. One thing is for sure, the pvers running around eotm in a circle are happy they wont have their entire train feared off the bridges.

Im not going to bother making a fuss over it in the wvw forums, its already over for the game mode anyway.

Where is the link? The link on the news page seems to be broken.

They need to include enough ambients for the solo roaming necros.

I said this during the beta of the desert maps, they should have kept the character models of the all the wildlife but just made them ambient, its a win-win you keep the immersion and get rid of the pve nuisance while not making a solo roaming necro’s life harder than it already is.

Ashen.2907:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Belenwyn.8674:

HoT was never planned to be shipped as one big lot. It is to be supposed to come in several batches. To evaluate whether HoT is a 100% product or not you have to wait until the evening before expansion 2.

Except that the (non-existant) big wvw overhaul has been cancelled for good.

Which will ship out in smaller pieces sooner now rather than make players wait until whenever for it to be released as a whole.

You clearly havent been here long enough. “We will focus on wvw’s core issues like population imbalance” – that was said 3 years ago. Dont speak on this subject if youve only been in wvw (and the forums) for a few months, youre making yourself out to look incredibly naive.

Are you sure that quote is from early 2013?

The quote itself is from a recent thread, im saying the claim has been made over and over for the past three years for which they had nothing to show for it other than leading wvw players on like donkeys to a carrot on a stick.

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Belenwyn.8674:

HoT was never planned to be shipped as one big lot. It is to be supposed to come in several batches. To evaluate whether HoT is a 100% product or not you have to wait until the evening before expansion 2.

Except that the (non-existant) big wvw overhaul has been cancelled for good.

Which will ship out in smaller pieces sooner now rather than make players wait until whenever for it to be released as a whole.

You clearly havent been here long enough. “We will focus on wvw’s core issues like population imbalance” – that was said 3 years ago. Dont speak on this subject if youve only been in wvw (and the forums) for a few months, youre making yourself out to look incredibly naive.

Provide a source.

There are 752 pages worth of evidence over in the wvw subforum. Have fun.

Well that’s convenient. Since you refuse to provide a source, I’ll assume you made it up for the time being.

Im saying we’ve been told that every other week for the past 3 years, but the fact that this is new to you shows me youre speaking on the subject completely from the outside. Keep your head neatly tucked in the sand.

We haven’t been told this every other week.

Not going to waste my time on a blind whiteknight who has three year’s worth of catching up to do.

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Belenwyn.8674:

HoT was never planned to be shipped as one big lot. It is to be supposed to come in several batches. To evaluate whether HoT is a 100% product or not you have to wait until the evening before expansion 2.

Except that the (non-existant) big wvw overhaul has been cancelled for good.

Which will ship out in smaller pieces sooner now rather than make players wait until whenever for it to be released as a whole.

You clearly havent been here long enough. “We will focus on wvw’s core issues like population imbalance” – that was said 3 years ago. Dont speak on this subject if youve only been in wvw (and the forums) for a few months, youre making yourself out to look incredibly naive.

Provide a source.

There are 752 pages worth of evidence over in the wvw subforum. Have fun.

Well that’s convenient. Since you refuse to provide a source, I’ll assume you made it up for the time being.

Im saying we’ve been told that every other week for the past 3 years, but the fact that this is new to you shows me youre speaking on the subject completely from the outside. Keep your head neatly tucked in the sand.

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Belenwyn.8674:

HoT was never planned to be shipped as one big lot. It is to be supposed to come in several batches. To evaluate whether HoT is a 100% product or not you have to wait until the evening before expansion 2.

Except that the (non-existant) big wvw overhaul has been cancelled for good.

Which will ship out in smaller pieces sooner now rather than make players wait until whenever for it to be released as a whole.

You clearly havent been here long enough. “We will focus on wvw’s core issues like population imbalance” – that was said 3 years ago. Dont speak on this subject if youve only been in wvw (and the forums) for a few months, youre making yourself out to look incredibly naive.

Provide a source.

There are 752 pages worth of evidence over in the wvw subforum. Have fun.

Sird.4536:

Vayne.8563:

Zetsumei.4975:

Vayne.8563:

Celtic Lady.3729:

I’m less concerned with their intentions and more concerned with their penchant for selling content they don’t later deliver.

It hasn’t really happened often in this game though. This current legendary system is probably the worst example of it.

You know the wvw 2.0 overhaul has been cancelled right? ..

Actually I don’t know that even a little. That’s not what was said anywhere. They wanted to roll it out all at once and now it’ll be rolled out in stages to get parts of it into the game faster.

There was a leaked Reddit post about a potential guild alliance system that was not received well from the community and therefor scrapped the idea because after that they switched stance to releasing stages at a time. if they had a system ready to ship they would release the whole thing unless they started over in which case you would release in stages.

Mistress Sird of [Vcy] by any chance? Long time no see

Vayne.8563:

Zetsumei.4975:

Vayne.8563:

Celtic Lady.3729:

I’m less concerned with their intentions and more concerned with their penchant for selling content they don’t later deliver.

It hasn’t really happened often in this game though. This current legendary system is probably the worst example of it.

You know the wvw 2.0 overhaul has been cancelled right? ..

Actually I don’t know that even a little. That’s not what was said anywhere. They wanted to roll it out all at once and now it’ll be rolled out in stages to get parts of it into the game faster.

Youve been here long enough to have heard them say that 3 years ago, dont tell me after all this time you still believe that PR crap.

Ayrilana.1396:

Zetsumei.4975:

Belenwyn.8674:

HoT was never planned to be shipped as one big lot. It is to be supposed to come in several batches. To evaluate whether HoT is a 100% product or not you have to wait until the evening before expansion 2.

Except that the (non-existant) big wvw overhaul has been cancelled for good.

Which will ship out in smaller pieces sooner now rather than make players wait until whenever for it to be released as a whole.

You clearly havent been here long enough. “We will focus on wvw’s core issues like population imbalance” – that was said 3 years ago. Dont speak on this subject if youve only been in wvw (and the forums) for a few months, youre making yourself out to look incredibly naive.

Vayne.8563:

Celtic Lady.3729:

I’m less concerned with their intentions and more concerned with their penchant for selling content they don’t later deliver.

It hasn’t really happened often in this game though. This current legendary system is probably the worst example of it.

You know the wvw 2.0 overhaul has been cancelled right? ..

Sarrs.4831:

HazyDaisy.4107:

Only a WvW player hears the announcements of (no new legendaries for the foreseeable future, but, here’s Friday reset back, btw, we’re pulling resources to rework the new PVE maps) and ponders “so, no other updates for wvw for the next 2 years or so eh?”

I giggled cos it’s true. So much rage about legendaries, and you can hear the crickets in WvW.

As someone who’s never had or wanted a legendary (because they look terrible, yes I’m a necro) I say us and the legendary ragers are on the same team. The rest of the playerbase is finally getting to see how wvwers are treated and they are not happy about it. Most importantly of all, it’s two (along with the non-existent wvw overhaul) major parts of the expansion that were advertised and incited sales but were cancelled.

msalakka.4653:

Rocketmist.5436:

The WvW “overhaul” that removed the servers was scrapped. That isn’t happening.

Source please or I claim bullkitten.

http://dulfy.net/2016/03/05/gw2-reddit-developer-ama-summary/#WvW

Wvw section, 5th bullet point.

Silverstone.4539:

if that is the case. Why would they promise something they can’t deliver on.

What better way is there to make money than by selling something that doesnt exist and not only getting away with it but have consumers defend you?

Kamara.4187:

Critical Lag.9075:

I’m sorry but this poll is just plain stupid. Players SHOULD NOT have to choose which of the promised content should be scrapped while they are actively working on Expac#2. Deliver things that were promised and advertised without sacrificing anything before moving to development of conent you they will SELL us later.

Take a deep breath. Its postponed indefinitely translates to they just can’t give you a timeline because they don’t know. They will have them done before the new expansion is released.

You realise they announced new legendaries a few years ago right? Guess what, they didn’t come before the expansion.

Thats the other thing.

Mike O Brien.4613:

Nero and Onevstheworld, you asked if this means that LW can come sooner than July.

Full story episodes have a long lead-time. But I don’t think LW content has to be all about the episodes. So… maybe.

But I’m not here today to make predictions or promises. I’d rather we start by shipping, then talk about what we shipped.

Mo

What youre voting for is not necessarily the episodes, infact it seems hes just talking about open world pve.

What if I told you there probably wasnt anyone working on the so-called scrapped legendaries to begin like the non-existant wvw overhaul and ‘moving’ these devs over to the living story team is therefore not going to make a difference to production speed.

People are so desperate to cling to hope, youre forgetting there are 70-100 devs (according to anet’s own words) working on the next expansion instead of finishing this one. Why on earth is anyone still playing this game settling to choose one or the other?

Here we go, the damage control message deleting has begun. Ill see you on greener pastures my brethrin

NekoNoKoi.9137:

Fat Disgrace.4275:

Lol play a different game then. I prefer the old maps just like everyone else does. But we won’t get them back so just get on with it.

Roaming on bl does work if you knock on enemy keeps, and belive it or not, real players not npcs come. if defenders come then we get fights but I agree it’s no where as busy as it use to be back in the old days.

“Lol play a different game then” No. That logic doesn’t work, it doesn’t get you what you want. Why would you settle for something like that when you have Anet finally asking us for advice, willing to listen to us? Asking us what we want to be done to revive WvW. That is exactly the last thing you should be saying right now.

Theyve been asking that question for the past 3 years, every time players get excited and take the time to write up huge essays and eventually those players realise theyre being eternally led on.

Raxzor.5946:

Zetsumei.4975:

Ragnarox.9601:

They started giving infractions for nothing . You can infract all you like but you won’t hide the truth.

This is when you know the ship is sinking, now the rest of the playerbase is beginning to feel what it is like being a vocal/passionate wvwer.

A guild member got a 3 day forum ban, for just asking ‘Why not get the glider, outfit team to work on LS instead of Legendary team?’ he posted on our Guild Facebook page he is quitting the game, if he can can get a forum ban for something as trivial as that he doesn’t want to support Anet anymore. So I am not sure what the prerequisite for a ban is?

Let just say, although the website has thoroughly run its course now and has a bad reputation – there is a reason players had to resort to creating an unofficial wvw forum back in the day and people began using their permaban-count as a measure of how long they’ve been a true wvwer.

70-100 devs out of 210 working on the second expansion instead of finishing this one.

Ashen.2907:

Zetsumei.4975:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Zetsumei.4975:

Belenwyn.8674:

HoT was never planned to be shipped as one big lot. It is to be supposed to come in several batches. To evaluate whether HoT is a 100% product or not you have to wait until the evening before expansion 2.

Except that the (non-existant) big wvw overhaul has been cancelled for good.

Did they cancel it? I remeber about a month ago where they talked about it in one of their little we shows.

Yeah its cancelled, and they put a new carrot at the end of the stick saying they cancelled it to push smaller updates focused on core issues.. but they have nothing to put out right now despite developing this so-called overhaul for a year now. As expected, it never existed in the first place.

I am sorry but I missed this announcement. Do you perhaps have a link please?

http://dulfy.net/2016/03/05/gw2-reddit-developer-ama-summary/

Wvw section, bullet point 5.

Ragnarox.9601:

They started giving infractions for nothing . You can infract all you like but you won’t hide the truth.

This is when you know the ship is sinking, now the rest of the playerbase is beginning to feel what it is like being a vocal/passionate wvwer.

Drakz.7051:

I believe they said in a different post that they had 60 working on it with an extra 10 working on whatever needed some extra people.

70 working on the next expac and 30 working on both.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/48zlyd/im_mike_obrien_here_with_gw2_dev_team_ama/

TheLastNobody.8319:

Zetsumei.4975:

Belenwyn.8674:

HoT was never planned to be shipped as one big lot. It is to be supposed to come in several batches. To evaluate whether HoT is a 100% product or not you have to wait until the evening before expansion 2.

Except that the (non-existant) big wvw overhaul has been cancelled for good.

Did they cancel it? I remeber about a month ago where they talked about it in one of their little we shows.

Yeah its cancelled, and they put a new carrot at the end of the stick saying they cancelled it to push smaller updates focused on core issues.. but they have nothing to put out right now despite developing this so-called overhaul for a year now. As expected, it never existed in the first place.

KRUSSIDULL.6845:

Zetsumei.4975:

You know you can transfer servers in this game right..

Valid point but I hope your imagination goes past that.

You’re implying wvwers should yet again be shafted by forcing them to change name if they want to transfer servers (which they are currently being forced to do due to almost the entire bronze and silver tiers being deserted), at least youre on the same page as anet.